I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned "The Patriarch" in the Afterlife night club. When you talk to him, he tells you that Aria bested him in single combat and allowed him to live to serve as a warning / testimony to what she is capable of.
The fact that Aria was able to defeat a Krogan warlord on his own terf means the chick has some clout. She is definitely worthy of being on Shepard's squad.
He was mentioned.
But seriously. It's pretty clear that she's hardcore when you first meet her. She's voiced by goddamn Trinity.
So did anybody else who's playing the PS3 version think that the interactive comic thingy was kinda bullshit? I mean I played ME1 to death so it's not like I needed it to understand anything or care but I think that they placed it in a really awkward spot and if I were new to the franchise that it wouldn't really have helped me. I mean you'd really be making the choices arbitrarily, the comic doesn't give you nearly enough context for you to understand why you'd want to make any of them a certain way.
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I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned "The Patriarch" in the Afterlife night club. When you talk to him, he tells you that Aria bested him in single combat and allowed him to live to serve as a warning / testimony to what she is capable of.
The fact that Aria was able to defeat a Krogan warlord on his own terf means the chick has some clout. She is definitely worthy of being on Shepard's squad.
Yeah, that bit is good.
I mean, if Aria either outright stated why you don't mess with her (IE, she could make your life hell even if you waste her) OR was more casual about the whole thing (Oh. Spectre. Don't make waves.) and let the rest of Omega tell you not to fuck with her (which could be done, and was hinted at nicely) giving the impression that, since you haven't caused any actual trouble and don't seem likely to, she doesn't care and any help is just an odd form of politeness.
But she falls into an irritating middle ground. Neither fish nor fowl and that.
So did anybody else who's playing the PS3 version think that the interactive comic thingy was kinda bullshit? I mean I played ME1 to death so it's not like I needed it to understand anything or care but I think that they placed it in a really awkward spot and if I were new to the franchise that it wouldn't really have helped me. I mean you'd really be making the choices arbitrarily, the comic doesn't give you nearly enough context for you to understand why you'd want to make any of them a certain way.
That and for most of ME1 you're out to stop the massive GETH fleet with the giant GETH flagship that is for some reason working with that specter guy... what was his name?
Any way, there are these sentient machines who razed a human colony and converted the corpses to zombies called the Geth.
Eventually you get to the end and find out about Sovereign and indoctrination etc... but did the interactive comic actually ever use the word Geth? I only watched the youtube video of it, but I didn't see it.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the comic used the word Geth a few times. It also explained the Protheans and the Reapers. And I thought it did a good job of explaining that Saryn was just a pawn of the Reapers and they were the real threat.
My comic was narrated by Femshep. Not sure if that makes a difference in the actual presentation or not.
But I actually enjoyed the comic. Sure, it was very brief. Sure, some stuff was glossed over like the survival/death of the Rachnai queen, but I mean, as of right now the Rachnai queen's death is pretty irrelevant anyway. We won't know until ME3 whether allowing her to live or not even has any bearing.
Of course, it would be pretty cool if she does come in to aid Shepard with a swarm of friendly Rachnai to help fight the Reapers.
Of course, it would be pretty cool if she does come in to aid Shepard with a swarm of friendly Rachnai to help fight the Reapers.
ME 2 makes it pretty clear that the queen intends to help you out against the Reapers.
My guess is that ME 3 will feature a mission to "recruit" the Rachni; most likely a lot of them have gone nuts again due to the "song from the darkness" returning, and Shepard and the queen have to round them back up. If the queen is dead, instead you're using control devices that Cerberus created from their research in ME 1 (at the cost of hundreds of lives and billions of credits) to wrangle them.
There's gonna have to be some big stuff in 3. Don't think Shephard and two guys are enough to take down an army of reapers, barring some kind of ridiculous super weapon.
Wrex/Aria on your squad, or Wrex/Aria leading an army of Krogan/Mercs on your side?
Second one seems better imos
The latter for Wrex, the former for Aria. Mercs aren't all that interesting compared to krogan.
It's not impossible to have both for both, theoretically, though. What it seems like things are building to is for Shepard to have access to military forces on top of his squad roster, and I don't see any reason why someone who is on your squad but could plausibly lead forces couldn't take the field while not watching your back.
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There will be big stuff in ME3, but in the end, we'll probably get a repeat of the earlier two games. Was Shepard on the fleet that was exchanging shots with Sovereign? Nope. Was Shepard leading an army to confront Harbinger? Nope.
ME really seems to be about intimate encounters--important ones, but small, intimate ones nonetheless--against the backdrop of much larger conflicts that are, in part, decided thanks to the intimate encounters. And as it should be. The whole "lead an army of Rachni" idea that everyone loves, for example. This is Bioware, remember. "Leading an army" would translate into "make four decisions during the battle over your radio", while the fighting happens completely elsewhere.
Shepard is not about leading armies. She's the tip of the spear, not the whole thing. And really, that's not a bad thing--implementing some sort of "army leading" mechanic isn't something Bioware is all that familiar with (hell, you can barely control two other companions at the same time!), and it would detract from the visceral and viscous fighting done by Shepard's own hands.
The fact that you've got three Reapers all crammed together in London just seems to repeat that--you're going to get up close and personal with some small, personal aspect of them to kill them. You might get a army fighting on the backdrop, but it'll be a repeat of Virmire (it was Virmire, right?) with the survivors of the STG, not an actual, strategically-managed war.
I like it like that, so I have no problem. I bet you never control more than three people at a time in ME3, either--though I wouldn't mind more missions like the Suicide Mission (involving the whole team, in different sections), or the option to control more. But a whole army of Krogan or Rachni? Sounds a lot more like something that happens way off screen.
The Suicide Mission was basically a dry run for the mechanics of the big epic battle at the end of (throughout?) ME 3. The first part of the game will be recruiting the various factions and/or leaders, and the last part will consist of Shepard and his team shooting their way to some important location while getting radio calls to tell them where to send what armies (Heretic Geth fleet emerges from the relay? Send Tali and the Migrant Fleet or Legion and the Loyalist Geth after them. Indoctrinated asari commandos flanking Shepard? Looks like a job for Wrex and the krogan or perhaps the Rachni).
Not having saved the appropriate leaders will act like not having loyalty worked in the Suicide Mission: they're more likely to fail.
Just had my first crash on the PS3 version. I also have a friend who claims he's had about three since launch. I think he's put in about double the playtime I have. I was only walking around the Normandy, and it had just auto saved minutes before. But still a little worrying.
Just had my first crash on the PS3 version. I also have a friend who claims he's had about three since launch. I think he's put in about double the playtime I have. I was only walking around the Normandy, and it had just auto saved minutes before. But still a little worrying.
I don't think I had a crash on the 360 version over my playthorughs
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I would rather have a M&B type of game out of ME. No, this does not mean sword fighting. More trying to conquer the galaxy in a civil war.
Anyway, I'm nearing the end of my ME2 playthrough.
Going for the IFF next. Hopefully if Legion is in that mission his loyalty mission is directly after that one. Can't you do 1 mission and still not have the crew die?
Also, I hope that the people of ME are glad their problems are pretty small in size compared to Star Wars or (God forbid) Warhammer 40k. Their shit seems like inconveniences compared to those universes.
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Reason I say that is because it was a random thought I had today.
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I would rather have a M&B type of game out of ME. No, this does not mean sword fighting. More trying to conquer the galaxy in a civil war.
Anyway, I'm nearing the end of my ME2 playthrough.
Going for the IFF next. Hopefully if Legion is in that mission his loyalty mission is directly after that one. Can't you do 1 mission and still not have the crew die?
Also, I hope that the people of ME are glad their problems are pretty small in size compared to Star Wars or (God forbid) Warhammer 40k. Their shit seems like inconveniences compared to those universes.
Yes.
Yes you can.
And that's just due to a comparatively limited EU. Hoping that Shepard can go off into graceful semi-retirement after this mess is done. Hate to think things going all Star Wars.
Hmm. A thought.
Centuries down the line, all that'll be left of Shep's crew will be Liara, Grunt, and Legion. Well, given turnover rates for the broker, probably just Legion and Grunt. Respectable legacy, really.
the reapers going to omega first might not be unlikely
considering they built the place
I...
No. No they didn't.
says they did in mass effect: retribution
basically, while grayson is under reaper control and rampaging through the place, the reapers in his mind are viewing the organic architecture with disgust but are pleased that their original design of the place has guided its development
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He was mentioned.
But seriously. It's pretty clear that she's hardcore when you first meet her. She's voiced by goddamn Trinity.
Side-note: Is it facepaint or are those tattoos?
Yeah, that bit is good.
I mean, if Aria either outright stated why you don't mess with her (IE, she could make your life hell even if you waste her) OR was more casual about the whole thing (Oh. Spectre. Don't make waves.) and let the rest of Omega tell you not to fuck with her (which could be done, and was hinted at nicely) giving the impression that, since you haven't caused any actual trouble and don't seem likely to, she doesn't care and any help is just an odd form of politeness.
But she falls into an irritating middle ground. Neither fish nor fowl and that.
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Any way, there are these sentient machines who razed a human colony and converted the corpses to zombies called the Geth.
Eventually you get to the end and find out about Sovereign and indoctrination etc... but did the interactive comic actually ever use the word Geth? I only watched the youtube video of it, but I didn't see it.
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My comic was narrated by Femshep. Not sure if that makes a difference in the actual presentation or not.
But I actually enjoyed the comic. Sure, it was very brief. Sure, some stuff was glossed over like the survival/death of the Rachnai queen, but I mean, as of right now the Rachnai queen's death is pretty irrelevant anyway. We won't know until ME3 whether allowing her to live or not even has any bearing.
Of course, it would be pretty cool if she does come in to aid Shepard with a swarm of friendly Rachnai to help fight the Reapers.
ME 2 makes it pretty clear that the queen intends to help you out against the Reapers.
My guess is that ME 3 will feature a mission to "recruit" the Rachni; most likely a lot of them have gone nuts again due to the "song from the darkness" returning, and Shepard and the queen have to round them back up. If the queen is dead, instead you're using control devices that Cerberus created from their research in ME 1 (at the cost of hundreds of lives and billions of credits) to wrangle them.
Have you ever faced an asari commando unit before?
Few humans have.
Though for a squad member on the mission to kick reaper ass that seems kind of weak...I mean after having an asari justicar up in here.
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Wrex/Aria on your squad, or Wrex/Aria leading an army of Krogan/Mercs on your side?
Second one seems better imos
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Leave that stuff for the background and cutscenes. I like the small, intimate feel of having a squad. Its like Shepard's own dirty dozen or whatever.
And yes, I want Wrex back on the squad. Sure, Grunt is pretty cool. But he's no Wrex.
And I think having a more martial oriented Asari on the team (Aria) would be cool. Both Liara in ME1 and Samara in ME2 were much more biotics focused.
The latter for Wrex, the former for Aria. Mercs aren't all that interesting compared to krogan.
It's not impossible to have both for both, theoretically, though. What it seems like things are building to is for Shepard to have access to military forces on top of his squad roster, and I don't see any reason why someone who is on your squad but could plausibly lead forces couldn't take the field while not watching your back.
1st one
If ME1 and ME2 have taught me anything, it's that armies of anything are worthless
And last I checked, we needed a lot of ships with a lot of people to beat just one Reaper.
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ME really seems to be about intimate encounters--important ones, but small, intimate ones nonetheless--against the backdrop of much larger conflicts that are, in part, decided thanks to the intimate encounters. And as it should be. The whole "lead an army of Rachni" idea that everyone loves, for example. This is Bioware, remember. "Leading an army" would translate into "make four decisions during the battle over your radio", while the fighting happens completely elsewhere.
Shepard is not about leading armies. She's the tip of the spear, not the whole thing. And really, that's not a bad thing--implementing some sort of "army leading" mechanic isn't something Bioware is all that familiar with (hell, you can barely control two other companions at the same time!), and it would detract from the visceral and viscous fighting done by Shepard's own hands.
The fact that you've got three Reapers all crammed together in London just seems to repeat that--you're going to get up close and personal with some small, personal aspect of them to kill them. You might get a army fighting on the backdrop, but it'll be a repeat of Virmire (it was Virmire, right?) with the survivors of the STG, not an actual, strategically-managed war.
I like it like that, so I have no problem. I bet you never control more than three people at a time in ME3, either--though I wouldn't mind more missions like the Suicide Mission (involving the whole team, in different sections), or the option to control more. But a whole army of Krogan or Rachni? Sounds a lot more like something that happens way off screen.
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Not having saved the appropriate leaders will act like not having loyalty worked in the Suicide Mission: they're more likely to fail.
Getting help from each town by going through an oblivion gate ( Reapers for ME)
With space guns.
I think I had this exact nightmare. I woke up, screaming, in a cold sweat.
That was a game. Crimson Sea.
Pretty neat but totally not Mass Effect.
Whoah, whoah, it's not a shithole.
It's a pisshole.
Thick and sticky?
If Bethesda did ME3 then you would be on foot watching your amassed armies save the day while you just shoot a couple of mooks.
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Anyway, I'm nearing the end of my ME2 playthrough.
Also, I hope that the people of ME are glad their problems are pretty small in size compared to Star Wars or (God forbid) Warhammer 40k. Their shit seems like inconveniences compared to those universes.
Yes you can.
And that's just due to a comparatively limited EU. Hoping that Shepard can go off into graceful semi-retirement after this mess is done. Hate to think things going all Star Wars.
Hmm. A thought.
Centuries down the line, all that'll be left of Shep's crew will be Liara, Grunt, and Legion. Well, given turnover rates for the broker, probably just Legion and Grunt. Respectable legacy, really.
Why I fear the ocean.
you go right fucking now
She says waiting is alright.
This is proof she is VERY WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING.
Why I fear the ocean.
dammit
I'm wrong
Jacob says go
Ends up being thrown into a bulkhead and deflating one of her two butt-balloons, leaving her walking off balance.
What a good decision that turned out to be.
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What about the "Samara as squad leader because she's been a great warrior monk for the last four hundred years"?
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I can imagine Miranda saying something like that.
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Oh hey, it's a novel.
Guess what I haven't bought and read, and will not buy and read? And thus will not regard anything in it until it's mentioned in a game?