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People who believe they can, and attempt to, cast spells on people to get them to do/feel/think operate in an ethically dark territory that I consider potentially harmful. They are at peace with the concept of manipulating people against their will. It's more than creepy.
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That's about what I expected from you.
Haha holy shit. Did you get mind controlled in the past or something, Fluffy?
People who believe they can, and attempt to, cast spells on people to get them to do/feel/think operate in an ethically dark territory that I consider potentially harmful. They are at peace with the concept of manipulating people against their will. It's more than creepy.
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That's about what I expected from you.
Haha holy shit. Did you get mind controlled in the past or something, Fluffy?
He got mind-controlled to hate mind control.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
I was denounced as Cultural Minister and now every position in government is headed by one man. And he led us to war with Africa. And we easily beat them.
I just can't believe we have people in the [chat] thread who are okay with having sex with someone who is mind-controlled
I mean I know we're on the internet here but I expected better out of PA people
What the fuck seriously?
O_o
I leave for a week and what the fuck happens?
Yeah I dunno kinda creeped out. I mean even jucar is creeped out guys, do you know how creepy something has to be for jucar to be creeped out by it? Or senj not to get off to it? Hella creepy.
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I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
I grew up in a small town. A couple of years after I left it forever, a guy goes into the Canadian Tire, which is like a Wal-Mart with no clothes, a week before Christmas and asks to buy a box of shells. The clerk hands it to him, and guy says, absentmindedly like, that he's also thinking of a new gun, and could he see that 12ga. behind the counter?
Clerk hands that to him. He loads the gun and heads out, only to be intercepted by the manager, who I went to school with and remember as the guy who shifted his car into reverse, on a dare, while travelling on the highway, at highway speeds. It was an old GM boat of some kind; it stalled and, without power steering or brakes, he had no choice but to paint a guardrail and nearly kill everyone aboard. Finding himself, once again, in command of a life-or-death situation, he tells the customer not to leave. The guy answers that he intends to kill himself and, if barred from leaving, he'll do it in the store. Now wise from years, the manager says the parking lot will be fine.
Guy sits in a snowbank and does the deed while last-minute holiday shoppers look on. I'd tell you they were horrified, and unless you grew up in a small town, you'd believe me.
Three days later, I arrive home for Christmas and go shopping at the Canadian Tire. There's a huge bloodstain in the snowbank, which I go over to inspect. My Mom had told me a guy killed himself, but not the how or where, and I didn't think anything of it because townsfolk are always offing themselves. It's probably a theme in shitty little towns everywhere.
So I'm staring at this huge stain, looking for deer parts or some other clue to its origin, when this female employee ambles over, having just finished work.
"Unbelievable, huh?" she says.
"Yeah," I reply, jovially, "looks like the holiday suicide season is finally here!" She begins to weep. I stand there for a few beats, wondering where my joke went wrong, and decide to take my business elsewhere.
I just can't believe we have people in the [chat] thread who are okay with having sex with someone who is mind-controlled
I mean I know we're on the internet here but I expected better out of PA people
What the fuck seriously?
O_o
I leave for a week and what the fuck happens?
There was a debate on "is it wrong to use mind control to make someone want to sleep with you"
The two main sides being "no because you're not in control of yourself anyway because of genetic and environmental affects and so it's as if they wanted to naturally"
and "what the fuck you guys are sick".
That is my summary of the arguments on both sides.
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KageraImitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered Userregular
edited January 2011
No one is 'okay' with having sex with a mind controlled person the previous discussion was if mind controlling someone to do something they wouldn't do was worse than rape. Some said no because you could mind control that person into liking whatever the hell it is they are doing which means no emotional trauma. Fluffy called these people monsters.
Rex is so happy. I went out with him so he could see, and he wandered around the porch tasting the snow in various places and trying to catch snowflakes in the air.
People who believe they can, and attempt to, cast spells on people to get them to do/feel/think operate in an ethically dark territory that I consider potentially harmful. They are at peace with the concept of manipulating people against their will. It's more than creepy.
:?
That's about what I expected from you.
Haha holy shit. Did you get mind controlled in the past or something, Fluffy?
Back in highschool there was this girl my friends insisted on keeping around because, I dunno, two of them wanted to jump her. Girl was layers of batshit and insecurities, and she considered herself 'wiccan'. I use the quotes because I don't know much about Wiccans, but I know enough to know that some highschool jackass who burns incense and thinks she's Sabrina the Teenage Witch isn't a Wiccan. Girl maybe read the wikipedia article on it, but that was it.
So anyway, she wanted me to like her. Which I didn't. Because she was a dumbass. So she performed a 'spell' -- again, I use the quotes because, c'mon. The next day I didn't turn up at school and, swear to god, she thought she'd killed me or something. Spent the whole fucking day freaking out thinking her spell had backfired and she'd killed me. Which kind of makes you wonder, if she thought what she was doing could potentially kill me, getting what she wanted obviously meant more to her than that risk.
People like that do more than creep me out. On the one hand you have a harmless idiot, but on the other you have a person who sincerely believes they can make people do whatever they want without any thought for what that person wants. It's selfish and manipulative to an extent I find appalling, and people who can justify invading someone's mind (which they believe they are capable of, despite how looney that sounds) display a capability to violate people to meet their own ends.
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KageraImitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered Userregular
Like, it's just such a funny thing to get angry over. Even if free will was real (heh 8-)), it's just such an outlandish hypothetical. Could you imagine, in real life, seeing someone get righteously furious over "you would totally mind control someone if mind control wasn't a fictional concept, you sicko!"
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AntimatterDevo Was RightGates of SteelRegistered Userregular
edited January 2011
why hasn't someone made a mashup of Robot Rock and Rock Lobster
Senj meaningless hypotheticals are all that seems to be discussed in chat (and dnd in general)
forgive me for being creeped out by people's opinions
I just think it's like finding out that most chatters would snitch to the anthropomorphic blue cat overlords who rule the earth that you were a dog owner before the revolution came.
Finding out that, when you ask people, they say that if they had the ability to control other people's thoughts they would use it to their advantage in some consequence-free imagined utopia doesn't surprise me and, more importantly, is never going to happen anyways.
Anyways, regarding people who think they can cast spells, it should be kept in mind that at least as many of them stick to "Help Bob get over his dead cat" spells as anything nefarious, and it rarely has an intent more controlling than using perfume or showing cleavage.
I just can't believe we have people in the [chat] thread who are okay with having sex with someone who is mind-controlled
I mean I know we're on the internet here but I expected better out of PA people
What the fuck seriously?
O_o
I leave for a week and what the fuck happens?
There was a debate on "is it wrong to use mind control to make someone want to sleep with you"
The two main sides being "no because you're not in control of yourself anyway because of genetic and environmental affects and so it's as if they wanted to naturally"
and "what the fuck you guys are sick".
That is my summary of the arguments on both sides.
Seems like the litmus test for many arguments in DnD is "Does this get me off? If yes, then you're a douche bag for opposing me and I will link your middle of the road point of view with a totalitarian and genocidal government".
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Haha holy shit. Did you get mind controlled in the past or something, Fluffy?
I wish the search was up
I want to see if he has an account
Bye bye paycheck!
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He got mind-controlled to hate mind control.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I mean I know we're on the internet here but I expected better out of PA people
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
That was actually pretty good.
Medication? Let me guess olestra?
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Is all I'm saying.
is this a ripoff of the Stephen Fry thing or are there are there a whole genre of these word dealies
What the fuck seriously?
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Nah for the depressions.
Nah just make you forget, but like leave a memory that your animal caused you harm... So you're all mad at mr peepers.
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I don't like them
It's a Thing(tm).
I don't remember the first time I saw one, but it was years ago.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I was denounced as Cultural Minister and now every position in government is headed by one man. And he led us to war with Africa. And we easily beat them.
You've got the sad? Sorry to hear that kag, now I'll make sure to only pick on you on mountain days.
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A little bit of putty and a trowel can take care of that for a lot less.
I too take umbrage at the meaningless answers people give to ridiculous hypotheticals
O_o
I leave for a week and what the fuck happens?
Yeah I dunno kinda creeped out. I mean even jucar is creeped out guys, do you know how creepy something has to be for jucar to be creeped out by it? Or senj not to get off to it? Hella creepy.
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http://www.caltrops.com/pointy.php?action=viewPost&pid=8858
Huh
I don't think I like this one much because I associate them with Stephen Fry and he is much more dreamy to listen to
I really like it and I tend to agree with him.
You tend to agree?
forgive me for being creeped out by people's opinions
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
There was a debate on "is it wrong to use mind control to make someone want to sleep with you"
The two main sides being "no because you're not in control of yourself anyway because of genetic and environmental affects and so it's as if they wanted to naturally"
and "what the fuck you guys are sick".
That is my summary of the arguments on both sides.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7E-aoXLZGY
Rex is so happy. I went out with him so he could see, and he wandered around the porch tasting the snow in various places and trying to catch snowflakes in the air.
Dog just loves the snow. He's so happy right now.
Back in highschool there was this girl my friends insisted on keeping around because, I dunno, two of them wanted to jump her. Girl was layers of batshit and insecurities, and she considered herself 'wiccan'. I use the quotes because I don't know much about Wiccans, but I know enough to know that some highschool jackass who burns incense and thinks she's Sabrina the Teenage Witch isn't a Wiccan. Girl maybe read the wikipedia article on it, but that was it.
So anyway, she wanted me to like her. Which I didn't. Because she was a dumbass. So she performed a 'spell' -- again, I use the quotes because, c'mon. The next day I didn't turn up at school and, swear to god, she thought she'd killed me or something. Spent the whole fucking day freaking out thinking her spell had backfired and she'd killed me. Which kind of makes you wonder, if she thought what she was doing could potentially kill me, getting what she wanted obviously meant more to her than that risk.
People like that do more than creep me out. On the one hand you have a harmless idiot, but on the other you have a person who sincerely believes they can make people do whatever they want without any thought for what that person wants. It's selfish and manipulative to an extent I find appalling, and people who can justify invading someone's mind (which they believe they are capable of, despite how looney that sounds) display a capability to violate people to meet their own ends.
You know who likes to declare shit as true?
Tea partiers.
I just think it's like finding out that most chatters would snitch to the anthropomorphic blue cat overlords who rule the earth that you were a dog owner before the revolution came.
Finding out that, when you ask people, they say that if they had the ability to control other people's thoughts they would use it to their advantage in some consequence-free imagined utopia doesn't surprise me and, more importantly, is never going to happen anyways.
Seems like the litmus test for many arguments in DnD is "Does this get me off? If yes, then you're a douche bag for opposing me and I will link your middle of the road point of view with a totalitarian and genocidal government".