I dunno, healers have the 'do what I want or I won't heal you' card, tanks have a similar 'my way or I won't move an inch' card, it makes sense dps would look at enrage timers as a way of getting their own brand of justice. Especially rogues, since vanish still works to live through a lot of botched raid encounters
Except no one caves in to DPS when they miss enrage timers. They call them scrub who can't play and replace them.
In one guild I used to be a member of, the guild leader claimed to be an immortal wizard from another world, and one of the guild members was a night elf who was also a robot. CC was rather tame compared to certain other RP servers that I've played on.
Anyone who had delusions of roleplaying anything but creepy sex has long since abandoned hope or quit, I would think.
So, when did the vote-out options change for groups? Tonight we had a horrible druid in Grim Batol, who couldn't seem to understand the idea of running away from the fire add... even after two wipes where we told him to repeatedly. So we kicked him.
On the last boss my guildy and I were getting tired of the horrible dps and coordination of another... so we were going to get some guild-mates to come help us beat the final boss. But, neither of us could kick the dude. (A few more wipes and we finally got by, turns out the healer was having issues because someone didn't understand the idea of purple floor makes you hurt.)
But when did they change the vote-kick system to do that? It had been a bit since we kicked the other dude... was it just a timer? Or is it only possible to vote one person out of a group like... ever now?
I play on an RP-PVP server, and actually used to participate in RP with my old guild and quite enjoyed it. Then again, most of our RP events were basically gankfests where we'd look for alliance to kill while yelling "For the Horde!" Suicide missions into Ironforge were always popular.
But yeah, whenever you go into Silvermoon City (which is apparently the major RP hub) and listen in on any RP conversation, it won't be long before you notice an alarming amount of creepy sexual innuendo.
Silvermoon is the Horde version of Goldshire. You do NOT go to Silvermoon.
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Silvermoon is the Horde version of Goldshire. You do NOT go to Silvermoon.
I play on an RP server and I never, ever see anyone in Silvermoon. I think the only time I have was when I logged out there before The Sharting since I figured it'd be the least laggy place to log back in.
Now Dalaran on the other hand, that's all roleplay all the time since it's empty.
I dunno, healers have the 'do what I want or I won't heal you' card, tanks have a similar 'my way or I won't move an inch' card, it makes sense dps would look at enrage timers as a way of getting their own brand of justice. Especially rogues, since vanish still works to live through a lot of botched raid encounters
If a DPS is standing in the fire and dies, especially in the heroic level, you can usually complete the encounter.
Holy Shit ... I just had a blue screen in the middle of standing around in Stormwind. I hadn't had one in like ... 6 ... 8 years or something like that ... what the fuck?
Aww ... crap ... and it fucked up my UI. Everything is set back to default
Enrage timers are the best. It's the comeuppance tanks and healers, high on the smell of the own farts, have to suffer for treating the DPS as completely useless.
Wha???
Enrage timers are the Tanks/Healers proof that the DPS are fucking idiots.
"Stop treating this like shit or we'll feign/vanish/invis when he goes into Rape Mode."
Enrage timers are the best. It's the comeuppance tanks and healers, high on the smell of the own farts, have to suffer for treating the DPS as completely useless.
Wha???
Enrage timers are the Tanks/Healers proof that the DPS are fucking idiots.
"Stop treating this like shit or we'll feign/vanish/invis when he goes into Rape Mode."
And prove what? That you're incapable of providing enough DPS to beat an enrage timer, yet you're more than compentent at avoiding a few golds worth of repair costs?
Enrage timers are the best. It's the comeuppance tanks and healers, high on the smell of the own farts, have to suffer for treating the DPS as completely useless.
Wha???
Enrage timers are the Tanks/Healers proof that the DPS are fucking idiots.
"Stop treating this like shit or we'll feign/vanish/invis when he goes into Rape Mode."
And prove what? That you're incapable of providing enough DPS to beat an enrage timer, yet you're more than compentent at avoiding a few golds worth of repair costs?
It proves that we're not all so replaceable when some of us are putting out top-end damage but the 2-3 or that can't keep up/stay out fire are killing us.
Did they make leveling fishing worse? I'm in the mid 200s and it's already taking me like 8-9 catches per skill point. This is going to take forever -_-
Enrage timers are the best. It's the comeuppance tanks and healers, high on the smell of the own farts, have to suffer for treating the DPS as completely useless.
Wha???
Enrage timers are the Tanks/Healers proof that the DPS are fucking idiots.
"Stop treating this like shit or we'll feign/vanish/invis when he goes into Rape Mode."
And prove what? That you're incapable of providing enough DPS to beat an enrage timer, yet you're more than compentent at avoiding a few golds worth of repair costs?
And what does withholding heals because the Mage rolled on that ring you wanted, or not moving an inch because the DK really likes that strength item that just dropped prove? That you can be a giant child because you're in some pretend position that you've designated has some authority?
Silvermoon is the Horde version of Goldshire. You do NOT go to Silvermoon.
I play on an RP server and I never, ever see anyone in Silvermoon. I think the only time I have was when I logged out there before The Sharting since I figured it'd be the least laggy place to log back in.
Now Dalaran on the other hand, that's all roleplay all the time since it's empty.
Slivermoon the server or City?
Slivermoon is a ghost town on Windrunner it's rare to see another player
Healed a Stonecore (regular) yesterday with an 84 paladin tank in all WotLK purples, a competent mage, a competent rogue, and a dps DK that wouldn't stop pulling aggro. Had to drink after every pull because that fucking Death Knight kept pulling aggro, and wouldn't stop.
They pulled the last boss when I was at 12% mana and drinking.
Enrage timers are the best. It's the comeuppance tanks and healers, high on the smell of the own farts, have to suffer for treating the DPS as completely useless.
Wha???
Enrage timers are the Tanks/Healers proof that the DPS are fucking idiots.
"Stop treating this like shit or we'll feign/vanish/invis when he goes into Rape Mode."
And prove what? That you're incapable of providing enough DPS to beat an enrage timer, yet you're more than compentent at avoiding a few golds worth of repair costs?
And what does withholding heals because the Mage rolled on that ring you wanted, or not moving an inch because the DK really likes that strength item that just dropped prove? That you can be a giant child because you're in some pretend position that you've designated has some authority?
Exactly. Being a total dick only proves that you are a total dick. Just because it's a video game doesn't change anything.
I'm surprised that some of the free to play MMOs haven't tried to monetize the desire for people to play DPS classes yet. I guess Blizz could start charging an extra fee to let DPSers go to the front the queues and that would amount to the same thing.
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I'm surprised that some of the free to play MMOs haven't tried to monetize the desire for people to play DPS classes yet. I guess Blizz could start charging an extra fee to let DPSers go to the front the queues and that would amount to the same thing.
As a tank, I'd just start trolling the LFD tool.
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Did they make leveling fishing worse? I'm in the mid 200s and it's already taking me like 8-9 catches per skill point. This is going to take forever -_-
That's how levelling fishing works. As you level up it takes more casts per point, capping out at 10 I believe. It's better than the exponential gain in casts it was back in vanilla and TBC though, where as you got closer to cap the amount of casts needed per level jumped so it ended up being like 100 casts for the last point. Just be sure to make use of the fishing daily every day.
Did they make leveling fishing worse? I'm in the mid 200s and it's already taking me like 8-9 catches per skill point. This is going to take forever -_-
That's how levelling fishing works. As you level up it takes more casts per point, capping out at 10 I believe. It's better than the exponential gain in casts it was back in vanilla and TBC though, where as you got closer to cap the amount of casts needed per level jumped so it ended up being like 100 casts for the last point. Just be sure to make use of the fishing daily every day.
I remember the cap being 17 casts for 1 skill up. Did they lower it? Still, I'm not leveling fishing past 75, I see no reason too. I'll just eat mudfish for this entire expansion.
Did they make leveling fishing worse? I'm in the mid 200s and it's already taking me like 8-9 catches per skill point. This is going to take forever -_-
That's how levelling fishing works. As you level up it takes more casts per point, capping out at 10 I believe. It's better than the exponential gain in casts it was back in vanilla and TBC though, where as you got closer to cap the amount of casts needed per level jumped so it ended up being like 100 casts for the last point. Just be sure to make use of the fishing daily every day.
Well yeah, I realize it takes longer the higher up you go. I just wasn't expecting it to get so high so fast.
I capped fishing on one character in vanilla and another char in wrath, I just don't remember it taking so long :-/
You're comparing 2 differen't things: pugs and raids.
Heals/tanks throw fits in pugs all the time. I've dropped group in the middle of a boss pull whenever DPS is being especially stupid, preceeded by "have fun with the wipe" tons of times. I refuse to heal DPS who are doing dumb things all the time (usually have a 3 strikes policy though). I've never thrown a fit about loot, but I can understand those that do.
All that shit gets left at the door during raids. I've never been in a raid where someone deliberately tried to dick over a DPS by not healing them. I raid with my guild though, maybe you pug.
So saying enrage timers can be used as "revenge" is fucking stupid, because you only hurt yourselves. When I let the DPS die in a pug heroic, it's because I know we can finish without him. You can't complete the boss when you let the enrage timer pass.
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edited February 2011
So I spent an hour last night corpse-running Orgrimmar on my level 30 hunter to get the Elder there. I'm still asking myself if it was worth the effort :P I'm also still 4 coins away from my last engineering pattern... *sigh*
Also, I will reiterate - fuck the new guard spawning system. Two seconds standing in a Horde town (no aggro or attacking of anything) and I have skull-level guards spawning and shotgunning me in the back for an insta-kill. It took me soooo many rezzes just to get the Razor Hill Elder because the guard was on top of it and I'd be dead before I even had time to talk to him.
I'd recommend turn it in to help with that, which auto complete's the gossip/quest text. then bind "interact with target" to a specific key. That way you don't have to waste time right clicking. just highlight the guy, rezz/divebomb, press one key and you're good. usually before you can get killed.
Really if any of you are seriously in a situation where anyone is considering doing this, you need to play this game with different people.
Well, yeah. I only really group with guild people at this point, and if I do get into a group with an asshole tank or healer, I generally just eat the deserter and let someone else deal with the clowns.
Enrage timers are the best. It's the comeuppance tanks and healers, high on the smell of the own farts, have to suffer for treating the DPS as completely useless.
Wha???
Enrage timers are the Tanks/Healers proof that the DPS are fucking idiots.
"Stop treating this like shit or we'll feign/vanish/invis when he goes into Rape Mode."
And prove what? That you're incapable of providing enough DPS to beat an enrage timer, yet you're more than compentent at avoiding a few golds worth of repair costs?
And what does withholding heals because the Mage rolled on that ring you wanted, or not moving an inch because the DK really likes that strength item that just dropped prove? That you can be a giant child because you're in some pretend position that you've designated has some authority?
It proves that your guild has some retarded entitled players and a shitty loot policy.
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Warlock82Never pet a burning dogRegistered Userregular
I'd recommend turn it in to help with that, which auto complete's the gossip/quest text. then bind "interact with target" to a specific key. That way you don't have to waste time right clicking. just highlight the guy, rezz/divebomb, press one key and you're good. usually before you can get killed.
Doesn't help. You still have to select the quest from his dialog window and click complete. There are macros to do that but I don't believe they work in combat because Blizzard hates us.
The interact thing is really only useful for when asshats sit on questgivers/vendors/etc with their giant mounts so you can't click them.
I think getting the elders of the Horde took my level 80 shaman all of 30 seconds for each. I just flew over the city avoiding the flying patrol in orgrimar until the ! lit up. flew down to the elder and finished quest/flew away. No guards spawned to hit me as I never touched the ground.
I think getting the elders of the Horde took my level 80 shaman all of 30 seconds for each. I just flew over the city avoiding the flying patrol in orgrimar until the ! lit up. flew down to the elder and finished quest/flew away. No guards spawned to hit me as I never touched the ground.
Yes it's easy with a flying mount. I did it on my lvl 82 druid no-problem. The problem is the sub-60 characters trying.
Also, I suspect other holidays will not be so easy. I'm still not sure how you're going to be able to sit at the horde thanksgiving tables without being mauled in the face.
Edit: Yes, he's 30. But he's not aggroing any of the actual guards since these are low-level towns (not counting Org here of course). It's just the guards that spawn for no reason that are a problem, because they seem to be really high level (I'd guess level 90+, since I saw one of those on my Druid when looking for hordies to throw rose petals on, but that may have just been because it was the Troll starting area, not sure).
Ultimately it's annoying that it's not following the original rules of guards only spawning when you aggro or attack.
Also, I suspect other holidays will not be so easy. I'm still not sure how you're going to be able to sit at the horde thanksgiving tables without being mauled in the face.
Last years Pilgrims Bounty saw the pre-Cata guard updates drop right in the middle of it. Folks who did the achievements early breezed through it (I at one point was tanking 8+ Ironforge guards and 3-5 Alliance players before I sat at the table there). Folks who did it after the change were indeed, mauled in the face without mercy. I had level 80 heroic ICC geared guildmates who went gear-red during their attempts, they died so much.
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Also, I suspect other holidays will not be so easy. I'm still not sure how you're going to be able to sit at the horde thanksgiving tables without being mauled in the face.
Last years Pilgrims Bounty saw the pre-Cata guard updates drop right in the middle of it. Folks who did the achievements early breezed through it (I at one point was tanking 8+ Ironforge guards and 3-5 Alliance players before I sat at the table there). Folks who did it after the change were indeed, mauled in the face without mercy. I had level 80 heroic ICC geared guildmates who went gear-red during their attempts, they died so much.
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Except no one caves in to DPS when they miss enrage timers. They call them scrub who can't play and replace them.
Anyone who had delusions of roleplaying anything but creepy sex has long since abandoned hope or quit, I would think.
On the last boss my guildy and I were getting tired of the horrible dps and coordination of another... so we were going to get some guild-mates to come help us beat the final boss. But, neither of us could kick the dude. (A few more wipes and we finally got by, turns out the healer was having issues because someone didn't understand the idea of purple floor makes you hurt.)
But when did they change the vote-kick system to do that? It had been a bit since we kicked the other dude... was it just a timer? Or is it only possible to vote one person out of a group like... ever now?
But yeah, whenever you go into Silvermoon City (which is apparently the major RP hub) and listen in on any RP conversation, it won't be long before you notice an alarming amount of creepy sexual innuendo.
I play on an RP server and I never, ever see anyone in Silvermoon. I think the only time I have was when I logged out there before The Sharting since I figured it'd be the least laggy place to log back in.
Now Dalaran on the other hand, that's all roleplay all the time since it's empty.
Same.
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If a DPS is standing in the fire and dies, especially in the heroic level, you can usually complete the encounter.
If you hit the enrage timer, everyone fails.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
Aww ... crap ... and it fucked up my UI. Everything is set back to default
If its BiS then yes.
"Stop treating this like shit or we'll feign/vanish/invis when he goes into Rape Mode."
And prove what? That you're incapable of providing enough DPS to beat an enrage timer, yet you're more than compentent at avoiding a few golds worth of repair costs?
It proves that we're not all so replaceable when some of us are putting out top-end damage but the 2-3 or that can't keep up/stay out fire are killing us.
And what does withholding heals because the Mage rolled on that ring you wanted, or not moving an inch because the DK really likes that strength item that just dropped prove? That you can be a giant child because you're in some pretend position that you've designated has some authority?
Slivermoon the server or City?
Slivermoon is a ghost town on Windrunner it's rare to see another player
They pulled the last boss when I was at 12% mana and drinking.
PuGs!
Exactly. Being a total dick only proves that you are a total dick. Just because it's a video game doesn't change anything.
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As a tank, I'd just start trolling the LFD tool.
That's how levelling fishing works. As you level up it takes more casts per point, capping out at 10 I believe. It's better than the exponential gain in casts it was back in vanilla and TBC though, where as you got closer to cap the amount of casts needed per level jumped so it ended up being like 100 casts for the last point. Just be sure to make use of the fishing daily every day.
I remember the cap being 17 casts for 1 skill up. Did they lower it? Still, I'm not leveling fishing past 75, I see no reason too. I'll just eat mudfish for this entire expansion.
Well yeah, I realize it takes longer the higher up you go. I just wasn't expecting it to get so high so fast.
I capped fishing on one character in vanilla and another char in wrath, I just don't remember it taking so long :-/
Heals/tanks throw fits in pugs all the time. I've dropped group in the middle of a boss pull whenever DPS is being especially stupid, preceeded by "have fun with the wipe" tons of times. I refuse to heal DPS who are doing dumb things all the time (usually have a 3 strikes policy though). I've never thrown a fit about loot, but I can understand those that do.
All that shit gets left at the door during raids. I've never been in a raid where someone deliberately tried to dick over a DPS by not healing them. I raid with my guild though, maybe you pug.
So saying enrage timers can be used as "revenge" is fucking stupid, because you only hurt yourselves. When I let the DPS die in a pug heroic, it's because I know we can finish without him. You can't complete the boss when you let the enrage timer pass.
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Also, I will reiterate - fuck the new guard spawning system. Two seconds standing in a Horde town (no aggro or attacking of anything) and I have skull-level guards spawning and shotgunning me in the back for an insta-kill. It took me soooo many rezzes just to get the Razor Hill Elder because the guard was on top of it and I'd be dead before I even had time to talk to him.
Well, yeah. I only really group with guild people at this point, and if I do get into a group with an asshole tank or healer, I generally just eat the deserter and let someone else deal with the clowns.
It proves that your guild has some retarded entitled players and a shitty loot policy.
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Doesn't help. You still have to select the quest from his dialog window and click complete. There are macros to do that but I don't believe they work in combat because Blizzard hates us.
The interact thing is really only useful for when asshats sit on questgivers/vendors/etc with their giant mounts so you can't click them.
also, isn't the guy in question 30?
Yes it's easy with a flying mount. I did it on my lvl 82 druid no-problem. The problem is the sub-60 characters trying.
Also, I suspect other holidays will not be so easy. I'm still not sure how you're going to be able to sit at the horde thanksgiving tables without being mauled in the face.
Edit: Yes, he's 30. But he's not aggroing any of the actual guards since these are low-level towns (not counting Org here of course). It's just the guards that spawn for no reason that are a problem, because they seem to be really high level (I'd guess level 90+, since I saw one of those on my Druid when looking for hordies to throw rose petals on, but that may have just been because it was the Troll starting area, not sure).
Ultimately it's annoying that it's not following the original rules of guards only spawning when you aggro or attack.
Last years Pilgrims Bounty saw the pre-Cata guard updates drop right in the middle of it. Folks who did the achievements early breezed through it (I at one point was tanking 8+ Ironforge guards and 3-5 Alliance players before I sat at the table there). Folks who did it after the change were indeed, mauled in the face without mercy. I had level 80 heroic ICC geared guildmates who went gear-red during their attempts, they died so much.
Fuck Ironforge and Darnassus.
That is all.
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