Just wanted to say the soundtrack is available on iTunes...and I just purchased it. Any tracks that are somehow spoilerific and should be avoided for now?
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Just wanted to say the soundtrack is available on iTunes...and I just purchased it. Any tracks that are somehow spoilerific and should be avoided for now?
There's only one track in English, and I believe its the last one on the ost. The lyrics are a little spoilerish so avoid it if you're listening and really trying to hear the words, but as background music you'd never really notice it.
Off to itunes to buy the soundtrack! How much was it?
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i know that you see parallels but there aren't actually any parallels it's just your impression. love feels like love yeah? it'll be hard to figure out your feelings like that, so I suggest you consider potential motivations instead.
Very rarely is sex ever listed as a motivation for the protagonist. You may see it. It may be your impression. It may even be implied. There's always the 'happily ever after'. But very rarely do the hero and the victim ever actually get it on.
there is however a shit ton of romantic attraction all up ins, commonly called love
which is what i was actually talking about
as opposed to the father child bond that we also label as love, even though they are qualitatively different.
note carefully how sex has nothing to do with either of those definitions. theres a ton of romantic stories out there that amazingly show no sex whatsoever. they're still thought of as romantic. it's the thought that counts and whatnot.
sure its sappy and dumb and stupid and so on but this is what i meant: that the love between the protagonist and the princess is presented as something different from the love of a father for his child. different associations, different themes, different everything.
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Just wanted to say the soundtrack is available on iTunes...and I just purchased it. Any tracks that are somehow spoilerific and should be avoided for now?
There's only one track in English, and I believe its the last one on the ost. The lyrics are a little spoilerish so avoid it if you're listening and really trying to hear the words, but as background music you'd never really notice it.
Off to itunes to buy the soundtrack! How much was it?
You've probably already seen the price by now, but it's $15.99. Not bad for two "discs" of material (43 tracks total). I'm quite enjoying it (and the LP, too ).
Now if the pattern that's starting to develop holds, I'll be buying the game later on in some unexpected sale like I did with VVVVVV...though it'd have to be an amazing sale to make up for having to buy a PS3 or 360. :P
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Oh hi there morninglord
Glad to have you around to make all my arguments for me.
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Just wanted to say the soundtrack is available on iTunes...and I just purchased it. Any tracks that are somehow spoilerific and should be avoided for now?
There's only one track in English, and I believe its the last one on the ost. The lyrics are a little spoilerish so avoid it if you're listening and really trying to hear the words, but as background music you'd never really notice it.
Off to itunes to buy the soundtrack! How much was it?
You've probably already seen the price by now, but it's $15.99. Not bad for two "discs" of material (43 tracks total). I'm quite enjoying it (and the LP, too ).
Now if the pattern that's starting to develop holds, I'll be buying the game later on in some unexpected sale like I did with VVVVVV...though it'd have to be an amazing sale to make up for having to buy a PS3 or 360. :P
it's 15 dollars at gamestop
it's literally cheaper than the soundtrack you just bought
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i know that you see parallels but there aren't actually any parallels it's just your impression. love feels like love yeah? it'll be hard to figure out your feelings like that, so I suggest you consider potential motivations instead.
Very rarely is sex ever listed as a motivation for the protagonist. You may see it. It may be your impression. It may even be implied. There's always the 'happily ever after'. But very rarely do the hero and the victim ever actually get it on.
there is however a shit ton of romantic attraction all up ins, commonly called love
which is what i was actually talking about
as opposed to the father child bond that we also label as love, even though they are qualitatively different.
note carefully how sex has nothing to do with either of those definitions. theres a ton of romantic stories out there that amazingly show no sex whatsoever. they're still thought of as romantic. it's the thought that counts and whatnot.
sure its sappy and dumb and stupid and so on but this is what i meant: that the love between the protagonist and the princess is presented as something different from the love of a father for his child. different associations, different themes, different everything.
I agree, there are types of love; the love for a daughter is different than the love of some scantily clad bimbo who gets herself captured all the time. They are two seperate things. But splitting hairs about the type of love is beside the point. My point was that effectively the stories are the same. Person A is trying to save Subject B. Swapping in whoever you want for either of those results in the same story.
I'm not saying the story is bad. Variations in stories make things interesting and new. But the premise for the story itself isn't new. It's the same story that's been told for thousands of years. The original argument that this story isn't cliche'd is flawed. Because it is cliche'd. But all stories are cliche'd at this point, because there are only 7 plotlines available. (alternately, 20 plots available)
Again, this doesn't stop it from being unique and amazing, and I'm very drawn to this story in particular. This let's play has me salivating for more.
The seven plotlines. Many many many arguments have been had about these, and I don't think this is the place, but these are the examples for my argument.
1 - [wo]man vs. nature
2 - [wo]man vs. man
3 - [wo]man vs. the environment
4 - [wo]man vs. machines/technology
5 - [wo]man vs. the supernatural
6 - [wo]man vs. self
7 - [wo]man vs. god/religion
Alternately the 20 Plots:
Quest
Adventure
Pursuit
Rescue
Escape
Revenge
The Riddle
Rivalry
Underdog
Temptation
Metamorphosis
Transformation
Maturation
Love
Forbidden Love
Sacrifice
Discovery
Wretched Excess
Ascension
Descension.
Of course there are many other theories and papers on this topic. The above was taken from the Internet Public Library. I'm not nearly intelligent enough to come up with all that on my own. But I read a lot.
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i know that you see parallels but there aren't actually any parallels it's just your impression. love feels like love yeah? it'll be hard to figure out your feelings like that, so I suggest you consider potential motivations instead.
Very rarely is sex ever listed as a motivation for the protagonist. You may see it. It may be your impression. It may even be implied. There's always the 'happily ever after'. But very rarely do the hero and the victim ever actually get it on.
there is however a shit ton of romantic attraction all up ins, commonly called love
which is what i was actually talking about
as opposed to the father child bond that we also label as love, even though they are qualitatively different.
note carefully how sex has nothing to do with either of those definitions. theres a ton of romantic stories out there that amazingly show no sex whatsoever. they're still thought of as romantic. it's the thought that counts and whatnot.
sure its sappy and dumb and stupid and so on but this is what i meant: that the love between the protagonist and the princess is presented as something different from the love of a father for his child. different associations, different themes, different everything.
I agree, there are types of love; the love for a daughter is different than the love of some scantily clad bimbo who gets herself captured all the time. They are two seperate things. But splitting hairs about the type of love is beside the point. My point was that effectively the stories are the same. Person A is trying to save Subject B. Swapping in whoever you want for either of those results in the same story.
I'm not saying the story is bad. Variations in stories make things interesting and new. But the premise for the story itself isn't new. It's the same story that's been told for thousands of years. The original argument that this story isn't cliche'd is flawed. Because it is cliche'd. But all stories are cliche'd at this point, because there are only 7 plotlines available. (alternately, 20 plots available)
Again, this doesn't stop it from being unique and amazing, and I'm very drawn to this story in particular. This let's play has me salivating for more.
The seven plotlines. Many many many arguments have been had about these, and I don't think this is the place, but these are the examples for my argument.
1 - [wo]man vs. nature
2 - [wo]man vs. man
3 - [wo]man vs. the environment
4 - [wo]man vs. machines/technology
5 - [wo]man vs. the supernatural
6 - [wo]man vs. self
7 - [wo]man vs. god/religion
Alternately the 20 Plots:
Quest
Adventure
Pursuit
Rescue
Escape
Revenge
The Riddle
Rivalry
Underdog
Temptation
Metamorphosis
Transformation
Maturation
Love
Forbidden Love
Sacrifice
Discovery
Wretched Excess
Ascension
Descension.
Of course there are many other theories and papers on this topic. The above was taken from the Internet Public Library. I'm not nearly intelligent enough to come up with all that on my own. But I read a lot.
I know Zen so just trust me when I tell you that he wasn't implying the story was new. He was implying that it hasn't been seen for a while and he's glad to see it again, it's been a long time, lets have a sit down and a chat and some tea.
Fresh doesn't mean new it means...how do I put it. It means something that hasn't been around for a while is back again. You've seen it before, it's not all that different from a technical standpoint, but all the same those pesky feelings you have which don't give a flying fuck about logic are going "hey that's interesting". Because it's different enough and it makes you happy again.
Cliche is a term used mostly to describe a persons dislike of a thing because they've seen it too much recently. In some cases they may see it too much so they're forever burned out on it, but in others if it isn't seen for a while and it pops up surrounded by the current cliche the pattern seeking monkey called a human being goes "Oooooh!"
Your argument that it's similar enough to be subsumed into the current cliche is heavily reductionist and doesn't address particulars like people aren't robots.
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Same story type, but different feelings. Plus, you see less fathers saving children than mothers. Friends or lovers saving each other just seems like it is a very common type of story, especially in a jrpg. Seeing a father who is just trying to maintain a normal life with his daughter(even though that ultimately fails I guess?), a very important and kind person to him that is also the last link he has to his wife. Not running out to save the world, not doing so because saving the person is for the greater good, but merely for keeping a normal life where he does his job and cares for his daughter. I think even more than lovers or friends or siblings, that connection is so fundamental to a person. "This is my father and he's really cool, I'm his favorite girl." Brings back memories of good times from the good he wants for his daughter.
But I haven't played the game, so I'm just speculating with what I know. And adding my thoughts that I shouldn't.
I watched the first episode of the LP and it's decent. I'd watch more, since the game story and everything is quite interesting, but I promised myself I would play this game or else, this month. I already know more than I want about the plot from a podcast.
Re:OST. The Nightmares and Arrange tracks that they released are ridiculously good as well. A capella version of The Wretched Automatons is so so good. One of the best a capella tracks I've ever heard. And the 8-bit Legend of Nier is...actually really addictive.
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Zen VulgarityWhat a lovely day for teaSecret British ThreadRegistered Userregular
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Yayyy Morninglord puts my feelings into words for me
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I like how this is a Father/Daughter story, as well. The game also does a great job of showing their connection and the impact various events have on Nier because he's Yonah's father.
There's more to why that specific connection is good, but until Rent gets farther, it's not something I can discuss.
Major props to you, Rent, for getting the word out about this game as well as you have.
This LP has convinced my friend and I to pick this up. He loved Drakengard because of the weird set of main "heroes". I picked up Nier because it just looks good. And the father/daughter archetype is a unique story you don't typically see used as a main draw.
So far so good though. I wonder if this is going to get as fucked up as Drakengard was?
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This LP has convinced my friend and I to pick this up. He loved Drakengard because of the weird set of main "heroes". I picked up Nier because it just looks good. And the father/daughter archetype is a unique story you don't typically see used as a main draw.
So far so good though. I wonder if this is going to get as fucked up as Drakengard was?
Apparently there is something fundamentally wrong with me for not seeing how this story is unique. I conceed, there is something wrong with me. But I still don't see it. I like it. The story. I do.
I'm reading The Dark Id's LP of Drakengard now. That game has serious issues, and I'm glad I didn't purchase it when I was growing up. (I think SaGa Frontier scarred me enough.)
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ALERT ALERT NOTHING OF IMPORTANCE HAPPENS IN THIS EPISODE IT IS ALL SIDEQUESTS AND NPC TALKING ALERT ALERT
I think you made a typo there. It should say "Go Green Bay!"
But everyone makes mistakes sometimes.
I lost all resolve and went to the Exchange to try to pick up a copy of this. They're all gone. ARGH. So now I'm perusing various online sales sites available on Island. So far I've found two copies for sale... but both already sold. ARGH.
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I think you made a typo there. It should say "Go Green Bay!"
But everyone makes mistakes sometimes.
I lost all resolve and went to the Exchange to try to pick up a copy of this. They're all gone. ARGH. So now I'm perusing various online sales sites available on Island. So far I've found two copies for sale... but both already sold. ARGH.
well I meant to support the team that has won the super bowl the most times in the league
so
uh
yeah
but yeah you guys are pretty rad with your measly three rings! i'm super happy for you guys!
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Thanks rent. Really looking forward to... whatever is beyond that save point. I'm not sure what it could possibly be, but I'm excited! Cliffhangers are evil!
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There's only one track in English, and I believe its the last one on the ost. The lyrics are a little spoilerish so avoid it if you're listening and really trying to hear the words, but as background music you'd never really notice it.
Off to itunes to buy the soundtrack! How much was it?
Episode 6 blip direct download
the bonus mirror on blip will arrive whenever I have the chance (read: I just got Dead Space 2)
when she turned round my eyebrows went into my skull
there is however a shit ton of romantic attraction all up ins, commonly called love
which is what i was actually talking about
as opposed to the father child bond that we also label as love, even though they are qualitatively different.
note carefully how sex has nothing to do with either of those definitions. theres a ton of romantic stories out there that amazingly show no sex whatsoever. they're still thought of as romantic. it's the thought that counts and whatnot.
sure its sappy and dumb and stupid and so on but this is what i meant: that the love between the protagonist and the princess is presented as something different from the love of a father for his child. different associations, different themes, different everything.
You've probably already seen the price by now, but it's $15.99. Not bad for two "discs" of material (43 tracks total). I'm quite enjoying it (and the LP, too
Now if the pattern that's starting to develop holds, I'll be buying the game later on in some unexpected sale like I did with VVVVVV...though it'd have to be an amazing sale to make up for having to buy a PS3 or 360. :P
Glad to have you around to make all my arguments for me.
it's literally cheaper than the soundtrack you just bought
I agree, there are types of love; the love for a daughter is different than the love of some scantily clad bimbo who gets herself captured all the time. They are two seperate things. But splitting hairs about the type of love is beside the point. My point was that effectively the stories are the same. Person A is trying to save Subject B. Swapping in whoever you want for either of those results in the same story.
I'm not saying the story is bad. Variations in stories make things interesting and new. But the premise for the story itself isn't new. It's the same story that's been told for thousands of years. The original argument that this story isn't cliche'd is flawed. Because it is cliche'd. But all stories are cliche'd at this point, because there are only 7 plotlines available. (alternately, 20 plots available)
Again, this doesn't stop it from being unique and amazing, and I'm very drawn to this story in particular. This let's play has me salivating for more.
1 - [wo]man vs. nature
2 - [wo]man vs. man
3 - [wo]man vs. the environment
4 - [wo]man vs. machines/technology
5 - [wo]man vs. the supernatural
6 - [wo]man vs. self
7 - [wo]man vs. god/religion
Alternately the 20 Plots:
Quest
Adventure
Pursuit
Rescue
Escape
Revenge
The Riddle
Rivalry
Underdog
Temptation
Metamorphosis
Transformation
Maturation
Love
Forbidden Love
Sacrifice
Discovery
Wretched Excess
Ascension
Descension.
Of course there are many other theories and papers on this topic. The above was taken from the Internet Public Library. I'm not nearly intelligent enough to come up with all that on my own. But I read a lot.
PSN: Dyvion -- Eternal: Dyvion+9393 -- Genshin Impact: Dyvion
I know Zen so just trust me when I tell you that he wasn't implying the story was new. He was implying that it hasn't been seen for a while and he's glad to see it again, it's been a long time, lets have a sit down and a chat and some tea.
Fresh doesn't mean new it means...how do I put it. It means something that hasn't been around for a while is back again. You've seen it before, it's not all that different from a technical standpoint, but all the same those pesky feelings you have which don't give a flying fuck about logic are going "hey that's interesting". Because it's different enough and it makes you happy again.
Cliche is a term used mostly to describe a persons dislike of a thing because they've seen it too much recently. In some cases they may see it too much so they're forever burned out on it, but in others if it isn't seen for a while and it pops up surrounded by the current cliche the pattern seeking monkey called a human being goes "Oooooh!"
Your argument that it's similar enough to be subsumed into the current cliche is heavily reductionist and doesn't address particulars like people aren't robots.
But I haven't played the game, so I'm just speculating with what I know. And adding my thoughts that I shouldn't.
I watched the first episode of the LP and it's decent. I'd watch more, since the game story and everything is quite interesting, but I promised myself I would play this game or else, this month. I already know more than I want about the plot from a podcast.
Re:OST. The Nightmares and Arrange tracks that they released are ridiculously good as well. A capella version of The Wretched Automatons is so so good. One of the best a capella tracks I've ever heard. And the 8-bit Legend of Nier is...actually really addictive.
I like how this is about a Father and his Daughter too.
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There's more to why that specific connection is good, but until Rent gets farther, it's not something I can discuss.
Major props to you, Rent, for getting the word out about this game as well as you have.
Aces Wild is a pretty stellar game.
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So far so good though. I wonder if this is going to get as fucked up as Drakengard was?
Apparently there is something fundamentally wrong with me for not seeing how this story is unique. I conceed, there is something wrong with me. But I still don't see it. I like it. The story. I do.
I'm reading The Dark Id's LP of Drakengard now. That game has serious issues, and I'm glad I didn't purchase it when I was growing up. (I think SaGa Frontier scarred me enough.)
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Episode 7: Sidequestin' Viddler
Please at least record your response to that question
And if it were me, I would have made this Episode 6.5 or something similar. Then again, if it were me this episode would have been uploaded in March.
Aces Wild is a pretty stellar game.
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Also fuck that seafront, I'm not playing it and I'm still annoyed by it.
BLOOOOMM
Also I just grew a white moonflower. Those things disturbingly look like pink ones if you don't look closely.
also
go steelers
STEELERS NATION BABY
I think you made a typo there. It should say "Go Green Bay!"
But everyone makes mistakes sometimes.
I lost all resolve and went to the Exchange to try to pick up a copy of this. They're all gone. ARGH. So now I'm perusing various online sales sites available on Island. So far I've found two copies for sale... but both already sold. ARGH.
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well I meant to support the team that has won the super bowl the most times in the league
so
uh
yeah
but yeah you guys are pretty rad with your measly three rings! i'm super happy for you guys!
i mean we just have double that but whatev's
today has been an ungood day, with my internet having been out for like six hours
also the steelers lost. that too.
fuck the packers.
e: No! Cliffhanger ending! You've ruined my day Rent! I have no idea what's going to happen next! Argh!
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sorry this took so insanely long, blip was being a dick
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