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Sony to use serial codes for PS3 games? [RUMOR]

DHS OdiumDHS Odium Registered User regular
edited January 2011 in Games and Technology
So there's some reports out on a few sites now that Sony may be considering using serial keys for PS3 games due to the recent hacking shenanigans.

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A rumor has popped up saying that Sony is scared enough of a recent PS3 security leak that it is planning to require serial code inputs for all future PS3 titles. Apparently it's 1991 again.

The hack in question is the recent publishing of the PS3's root keys, which can be used to get access to the inner workings of the PS3. While undoubtedly a setback in Sony's ongoing struggle against piracy, the PS3 had hardly proven unhackable previous to the root key discovery.

The rumored scheme would require gamers to input a serial number like PC CD-keys of old and verify them with Sony's authentication servers. The codes would allow five activations, sharply limiting each game's resale value.

While Sony certainly has the right to do what it can to limit piracy and protect its intellectual property, saddling legitimate consumers with a pain-in-the-ass code input that also restricts the end-user's ability to give away or resell their games is pretty *** unfriendly to gamers.

Anyone who follows the industry knows of the piracy-related struggles that PC developers have suffered through since the medium's inception. Digital rights management schemes have come and gone, rarely un-cracked for more than a few months at a time, and piracy has continued. Pissing off consumers, on the other hand, has never to my knowledge been a winning business strategy for anyone.

I'm hoping that this rumor ends up being just that. Introducing new annoyances for legitimate consumers without adding any value is not the way to combat piracy – it's a way to drive gamers to other platforms that don't irritate them. And I'm pretty sure there's another console out there directly competing (and clearly outselling) the PlayStation 3 that Sony would be wise not to give away any advantages to.

On second thought, if Sony wants to print code wheels that you have to use to decipher hidden messages in game manuals in order to play the game, I'm cool with that. Those were sweet.

We've reached out to Sony for comment.

While a few sites have reported it, they are all coming from the same source, which is being translated through Google. So if it wasn't obvious enough, take it with a huge grain of salt.

I for one do not see this happening. However, if it somehow did, it would effectively kill my purchases for the system.

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    agoajagoaj Top Tier One FearRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Well, at least serial codes can't be hacked in any way and never will uh huh.

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    Lionel-RichieLionel-Richie Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    This won't happen. Sony finally has gotten to the point where they can go toe-to-toe with the other two gaming giants and this would set them back ten steps.

    I work game retail and I see how the weird EA/THQ CD keys for online has confused and annoyed the masses, this would just make them froth.

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    SkyGheNeSkyGheNe Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Putting in a serial key is a small price to pay if it slows down kiddies from cracking the system and picking up a gamefly subscription.

    Don't really care. It takes like an additional 15 seconds to input it.

    I just don't like the install limitations.

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    SeolSeol Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    SkyGheNe wrote: »
    Putting in a serial key is a small price to pay if it slows down kiddies from cracking the system and picking up a gamefly subscription.

    Don't really care. It takes like an additional 15 seconds to input it.

    I just don't like the install limitations.
    If it's going to do anything, then it'd require a connection to the internet to validate.

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    AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    A minor annoyance at best, if they do this.

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    Rex DartRex Dart Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    What about PS3 owners who aren't hooked up to the internet?

    This isn't the very worst anti-piracy idea out there, but it doesn't seem the least bit practical with consoles.

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    SkyGheNeSkyGheNe Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Seol wrote: »
    SkyGheNe wrote: »
    Putting in a serial key is a small price to pay if it slows down kiddies from cracking the system and picking up a gamefly subscription.

    Don't really care. It takes like an additional 15 seconds to input it.

    I just don't like the install limitations.
    If it's going to do anything, then it'd require a connection to the internet to validate.

    Yeah that's kind of annoying. If it was just a serial key I'd have less of a problem. I don't like this shitty trend of requiring online verification.

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    DeMoNDeMoN twitch.tv/toxic_cizzle Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    But, what will that do to the used game market for ps3 games?

    It will become as non-existent as buying used pc games.

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    apotheosapotheos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2011
    How the hell would something like this solve the problem that it purports to solve?

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    Lionel-RichieLionel-Richie Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Rex Dart wrote: »
    What about PS3 owners who aren't hooked up to the internet


    And a large portion of consoles AREN'T hooked up to the internet. Many of those CANNOT either. This. Won't. Happen.

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    OmeksOmeks Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    While inputting serial numbers isn't really that big of a deal to me, it would effectively kill the used game market and rental market for the PS3.

    Considering I use Gamefly a lot to play games, I would never rent a PS3 game again...because I couldn't. And I don't even rent that many PS3 games to begin with. Imagine what would happen to a guy who only rents PS3 games. He would either quit the service, or do the worst thing imaginable for Sony...switch to the Xbox 360.

    Then imagine the same thing happening to PS3 players who buy used.

    If Sony did do something like this, they'd have to think of a less restricting way that won't alarmingly decrease their marketshare.

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    JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    apotheos wrote: »
    How the hell would something like this solve the problem that it purports to solve?
    It wouldn't - but it would give them an excuse to kill the used PS3 game market pretty much overnight. And the secondary market is so horribly unfair and all, you know.

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    TetraNitroCubaneTetraNitroCubane The Djinnerator At the bottom of a bottleRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    JihadJesus wrote: »
    apotheos wrote: »
    How the hell would something like this solve the problem that it purports to solve?
    It wouldn't - but it would give them an excuse to kill the used PS3 game market pretty much overnight. And the secondary market is so horribly unfair and all, you know.

    Also, DRM measures such as these are very often less about actually solving the piracy problem, and more about convincing your shareholders/investors/publishers that you've solved the problem.

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    SeolSeol Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    JihadJesus wrote: »
    apotheos wrote: »
    How the hell would something like this solve the problem that it purports to solve?
    It wouldn't - but it would give them an excuse to kill the used PS3 game market pretty much overnight. And the secondary market is so horribly unfair and all, you know.
    Killing the secondary game market by killing the primary game market is probably overkill.

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    143999143999 Tellin' ya not askin' ya, not pleadin' with yaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Seol wrote: »
    SkyGheNe wrote: »
    Putting in a serial key is a small price to pay if it slows down kiddies from cracking the system and picking up a gamefly subscription.

    Don't really care. It takes like an additional 15 seconds to input it.

    I just don't like the install limitations.
    If it's going to do anything, then it'd require a connection to the internet to validate.

    "Requires internet connection to validate" would be the "we're restoring a feature that was stripped from our PS3s" for the people who inevitably come up with a workaround for it.

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    Torso BoyTorso Boy Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Why would they do this? They would be fucking customers who aren't connected to the internet, and there isn't any evidence that it would mean a significant reduction in piracy.

    The cost of doing something like this in the console's twilight years would be ridiculous, and the potential benefits aren't substantial or likely.

    Being a console is the best protection against piracy one can ever achieve, and it still isn't infallible. They should be learning their lessons from this generation to make the next console as secure as possible. If they have their heads on straight, that's what their doing and this rumour is without substance.

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    Ragnar DragonfyreRagnar Dragonfyre Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I wouldn't put anything past Sony at this point. They've already proven they don't give a fuck about their consumers time and time again.

    If anything, some sort of key for playing online is likely to happen. With the amount of hacks that are surfacing on PSN, they're going to have to do something otherwise publishers may hesitate to release their online multiplayer games on the platform in the future. Activision has already snidely threatened such action. Whether this is just pandering or not is up in the air at this point.

    http://jasonkoblovsky.blogspot.com/2011/01/activision-threatens-to-pull-psn.html

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    KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    So now pirates will put a "keygen.exe" in their torrents?

    Yeah good idea Sony.

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    fragglefartfragglefart Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Has anyone who plays online on PS3 noticed any problems yet? Like, can people mess about with games running hacks etc? That would be pretty sucky for people paying for games.

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    Lionel-RichieLionel-Richie Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    There was an article saying that MW2 on PS3 is overrun with hackers and Activision was kinda like *shrug*

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    VeganVegan Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    We already have people who go to Gamestop and open all the "New" game cases (which are on the shelves with no shrinkwrap because the discs are in a binder behind the counter) to steal Club Nintendo codes.

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    Ragnar DragonfyreRagnar Dragonfyre Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Has anyone who plays online on PS3 noticed any problems yet? Like, can people mess about with games running hacks etc? That would be pretty sucky for people paying for games.

    I work for an ISP and I've noticed an increase of calls complaining about issues on PSN since these hacks started surfacing. Anecdotal, but there it is.

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    KadokenKadoken Giving Ends to my Friends and it Feels Stupendous Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Are you super serial?

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    Ragnar DragonfyreRagnar Dragonfyre Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Kadoken wrote: »
    Are you super serial?

    Sooper serial.

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    DHS OdiumDHS Odium Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    While I don't think the serial keys as reported will ever happen, at least not for PS3, they could go the route EA have done with their project $10 thing.

    Where buying the game gets you the singleplayer content, with multi on the disc but you need to use a code to activate it. This would allow them to prevent online play for anyone who didn't get it new, or have this code, thus killing off any hacking in future games.

    It also wouldn't affect those who's consoles aren't online since they wouldn't touch multi anyway.

    Now, Sony could certainly do that with the games they publish themselves, there's a precedence for it now, but maybe they would also enforce, or encourage the same of all developers who release games on the PS3.

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    EdgieEdgie TampaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Has anyone who plays online on PS3 noticed any problems yet? Like, can people mess about with games running hacks etc? That would be pretty sucky for people paying for games.

    Yeah, there have been posts in the Black Ops thread of people who have gone back to play MW2. One post in particular mentioned getting shot by pistols through 15 walls and giant "LOL" kill cams.

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    JJJJ DailyStormer Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I think Sony is just going to have to suck it up and deal with rampant piracy and lost profits for another 3-4 years until the next console generation is released. Introducing serial keys mid console generation is wacky and it's also unlikely they would set a precedent like that next generation either. But, I guess that depends on how desperate they get.

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