I think you're pretty vulnerable early on with only 1/2 lings by the 6-minute mark. The real safety of opening Roach is being able to sit them at the top of your ramp, which you can't do with a FE on most maps. They're actually not very good against Speedlings if they get surrounded. I think someone who opens with 14pool/14gas or some variant and committed to lings would cause you a bit of trouble with that opening as-is.
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I think you're pretty vulnerable early on with only 1/2 lings by the 6-minute mark. The real safety of opening Roach is being able to sit them at the top of your ramp, which you can't do with a FE on most maps. They're actually not very good against Speedlings if they get surrounded. I think someone who opens with 14pool/14gas or some variant and committed to lings would cause you a bit of trouble with that opening as-is.
Well I largely didn't make those lings yet because I saw only a handful of lings at the top of his ramp and a handful of roaches. Normally I tend to stockpile 6-8 larvae and spend them only a few at a time so I can spam out a ton of lings if necessary. Thats partially the reason for the fast ling speed, its faster than any other build will have.
Like any build it has its weaknesses but the most important thing for me is that I FEEL safer with it, which makes me play better because I'm not in a near state of panic for half the game because of how fucking instantaneously ZvZ can fuck you up the ass
Also, here's a fun replay of me nearly losing my hatchery to a bunker rush on close positions Metalopolis then punishing his lack of wall-off (once I actually bothered to notice he hadn't walled).
Allowing your hatchery to tank the damage while you amass a force of lings rather than sending them in one by one to die really works wonders.
Also I know I'm sort of showing off here with these replays, but I pretty much am. I'm proud of my Zerg play now, I feel really comfortable after putting in the work.
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Map pool is Shakuras Plateau, Metalopolis, Xel'Naga Caverns, Lost Temple, and Scrap Station. Please note that Blistering Sands, Desert Oasis, Jungle Basin, Delta Quadrant, Steppes of War, and Kulas Ravine are removed from the map pool. Detailed rules will be released when registration opens.
that's from the tl open currently being played
i open drewbies stream and he is bunker rushing some zerg in close positions on lost temple
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There are at least 11 people streaming that tournament. Jesus.
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Somewhat off topic, but are the email notifications on Justin.tv broken or something? I have a bunch of streams set up to notify when they go live, and I never get the emails, and they're not in my spam folder.
VR+colossi sure is crazy ridiculously powerful. it's a shame VRs are generally better for cost than carriers because carriers+colossi would be pretty badass.
edit: whoops, i meant to say VRs are better for cost -_-
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I remember when i was in the habit of going 1-base colossi in almost all my PvPs but I found that I just didn't have the micro necessary to make it work. it can be really powerful in the right hands.
It's difficult to go ling/bling/muta/infestor from both a resource and micro perspective, so people either go ling/bling/muta or ling/infestor which is becoming more common these days.
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DarkForce just got off some clutch fungal growth to deny Kiwi's archon toilet
the wagequit guy really has no clue what the fuck is going on ever
I had never watched since everyone said they were so terrible. Kiwikaki was enough to make me change that and he was like "Naked Collossi! Why aren't the roaches killing them!?" when they were cloaked under a mothership.
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Well I largely didn't make those lings yet because I saw only a handful of lings at the top of his ramp and a handful of roaches. Normally I tend to stockpile 6-8 larvae and spend them only a few at a time so I can spam out a ton of lings if necessary. Thats partially the reason for the fast ling speed, its faster than any other build will have.
Like any build it has its weaknesses but the most important thing for me is that I FEEL safer with it, which makes me play better because I'm not in a near state of panic for half the game because of how fucking instantaneously ZvZ can fuck you up the ass
Also, here's a fun replay of me nearly losing my hatchery to a bunker rush on close positions Metalopolis then punishing his lack of wall-off (once I actually bothered to notice he hadn't walled).
Allowing your hatchery to tank the damage while you amass a force of lings rather than sending them in one by one to die really works wonders.
http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=186539
Also I know I'm sort of showing off here with these replays, but I pretty much am. I'm proud of my Zerg play now, I feel really comfortable after putting in the work.
You have destroyed all my dreams.
wat
is this sentence missing a comma?
that's from the tl open currently being played
i open drewbies stream and he is bunker rushing some zerg in close positions on lost temple
Half? That's why they'll never make it to GSL. Too passive.
Games: Ad Astra Per Phalla | Choose Your Own Phalla
the wagequit guy really has no clue what the fuck is going on ever
PSN: Robo_Wizard1
Kiwi vs Darkforce, 1-1 map 3 now.
EG vs root is in 15 mins though.
http://www.justin.tv/gosucoachingtv
oh god banelings, noooooo!!1!
edit: whoops, i meant to say VRs are better for cost -_-
idra vs drewbie!
or not!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=189624
It owns. It's VERY mechanically dependent however.
seems hard but quite cool... I am losing all these games anyway so I don't mind risking a few trying to learn it
thanks
you know he's raging, losing to drewbie
isn't that who he said was terrible in that old game on kulas?
PSN: Robo_Wizard1
Yup, that's the guy.
edit: and no sentries??? am i nuts here or is that retarded?
Late game infestors vs. immvp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmEWrxklf8U&feature=player_embedded
It's difficult to go ling/bling/muta/infestor from both a resource and micro perspective, so people either go ling/bling/muta or ling/infestor which is becoming more common these days.
watch the whole series if you can
watch it
if you wanna see that gateway units need to be nerfed?
I had never watched since everyone said they were so terrible. Kiwikaki was enough to make me change that and he was like "Naked Collossi! Why aren't the roaches killing them!?" when they were cloaked under a mothership.
Hard to miss a mothership.....
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is it hosted somewhere?