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LardalishLardalish Registered User regular
edited January 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
EDIT: THIS IS NOW THE TAX QUESTIONS THREAD! Feel free to ask whatever questions you have and Im sure someone in the PA community can help you out!




Ok so I didn't see a tax thread and since search is down, Im sorry if there is a thread for this already.

I haven't gotten my tax forms from either of the places I worked at last year. One of them I know has my right info because they sent the forms just fine last year, but the other one was new. Basically, when should I start worrying that I don't have my forms yet? I hadn't really thought about it until I started seeing people posting on Facebook about how they've already done their taxes. I vaguely remember reading something saying that if I don't have them by January 20th I should ask, but I'm not about to pester my employers if thats not right.

Anyway, thanks in advance.

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  • NargorothRiPNargorothRiP Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    by law it has to be post dated by jan. 31.

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  • MushroomStickMushroomStick Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Let piggy back a question here - Rumor has it that next year my employer plans to make W2's available online only. Are they allowed to not provide a hard copy to employees?

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  • LardalishLardalish Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Ok cool, so I guess Ill just call them if I haven't gotten anything by the 4th.


    Also, if you just wanna turn this into the tax questions thread thats fine with me. I can't really make a good OP but Im ok with everyone just asking questions here.

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  • scrivenerjonesscrivenerjones Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    If you opt out of electronic delivery then I think they still have to cough up a paper one. dunno why you would want one though.

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  • scrivenerjonesscrivenerjones Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Yeah there should probably be a real tax thread but this will do for now. I'm a CPA candidate (gonna start studying for AUD next month, fml!!!) so if you have a question I might possibly know the answer.

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  • ThegreatcowThegreatcow Lord of All Bacons Washington State - It's Wet up here innit? Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Yeah there should probably be a real tax thread but this will do for now. I'm a CPA candidate (gonna start studying for AUD next month, fml!!!) so if you have a question I might possibly know the answer.

    Ah fantastic! Got a couple for you:

    I'm a first time homebuyer (bought in march of '10) , I claimed the 1st time homebuyers credit and used the money to improve the house. Are there any deductions/concerns I should be aware of filing for the 1st time? I know about mortgage interest being deductable, but are things like major home improvements or commutting miles deductable?

    Any advice is appreciated!

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  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    You can't deduct major improvements though they may add to the basis for your house when you sell it.

    You can never deduct commuting costs if you're an employee of a business.

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  • NargorothRiPNargorothRiP Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    the answer is yes generically for money spent on home improvements. however im not sure how the credit which provided the money to improve the house can be reclaimed. just used tax prepatory software like taxactonline.com and they step by step walk you through and explain the rules.

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  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    the answer is yes generically for money spent on home improvements. however im not sure how the credit which provided the money to improve the house can be reclaimed. just used tax prepatory software like taxactonline.com and they step by step walk you through and explain the rules.

    There are specific tax credits for improvements, generally for energy efficiency, and that varies highly by locality.

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  • DragonPupDragonPup Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Does the real estate taxes on my home count for anything? TaxAct is asking for the amount I paid on real estate taxes which it never did before.

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  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    You can generally deduct personal property taxes..

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  • scrivenerjonesscrivenerjones Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    RE taxes are deductible on Sch A if you itemize.

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  • NargorothRiPNargorothRiP Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    your property taxes are paid by your mortgage company out of the escrow. you should get a statement at the end of the year breaking it down. also if you paid higher education tuition you can deduct this as well.

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  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    You can't necessarily deduct tuition & expenses as in schedule A, but there are various tax credits available.

    The newest and bestest being the American Opportunity Credit. <3

    edit: Also there is a big difference between a deduction and a credit, and it's important to be clear on the difference.

    edit to the edit: Yes, you can deduct (a very small amount of) tuition expenses, but in almost every case you're better off taking one of the available tax credits.

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  • a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Let piggy back a question here - Rumor has it that next year my employer plans to make W2's available online only. Are they allowed to not provide a hard copy to employees?

    You have to consent to not receive the paper copy. My employer asked this year, but I didn't opt out because I want them to have to pay to mail it :P.

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  • scrivenerjonesscrivenerjones Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    adytum wrote: »
    You can't necessarily deduct tuition & expenses as in schedule A, but there are various tax credits available.

    The newest and bestest being the American Opportunity Credit. <3

    edit: Also there is a big difference between a deduction and a credit, and it's important to be clear on the difference.

    edit to the edit: Yes, you can deduct (a very small amount of) tuition expenses, but in almost every case you're better off taking one of the available tax credits.

    I think last year I was better off taking the above-the-line deduction for tuition but I don't remember why. I think a big part was that it got my AGI down which then flowed through to my OR return. It's pretty case-by-case though.

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  • ViscountalphaViscountalpha The pen is mightier than the sword http://youtu.be/G_sBOsh-vyIRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Does anyone know if the IRS has their shit straight so as soon as I get my W2 (Damn you kroger main office) that I can file without the taxes without worrying.

    Supposedly due to the tax cuts being kept for two more years?

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  • JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    So my wife does childcare part time for a friend of hers. The ammount of income is small, probably only a few thousand dollars at most. However, her friend and the child's father split up; do we need to separate out which part of the couple paid how much to avoid audit, or are they even going to care with such a small ammount?

    It sounds like they may not even report those child care costs (most of the time the kid's with a nanny, which would be the bulk by far). Supposing they don't report is it even going to matter if we list it all as paid by one of them instead of splitting it out?

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  • a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Does anyone know if the IRS has their shit straight so as soon as I get my W2 (Damn you kroger main office) that I can file without the taxes without worrying.

    Supposedly due to the tax cuts being kept for two more years?

    IRS says they'll start processing e-files for 1040 Schedule A returns (itemized deductions) on Feb 14, and all the major vendors will hold your return until then if you go ahead and do it now. 1040EZ returns can file whenever.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Okay, so I filled out my FAFSA and got an EFC of 519. The thing is, I got flagged for "verification".

    I signed in with the IRS and they sent my tax information over. Except now my school needs hard copies. I did this through H&R block last year and they want to charge me now to send me my tax forms back. I have my W-2s. Is there any easier/cheaper way to get this thing expedited so I can get school paid for? I don't even understand why they need to "verify" anyway. The information I gave them came directly from another branch of the government, not from me.

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  • strebaliciousstrebalicious Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Is it weird that in the 14 or so years of doing taxes (10 of them in the military) I have never once itemized my deductions? I always just take the standard whatever. Some people think I'm strange for doing that. Didn't really think it was an issue, I still get butt-tons of money back anyway.

    Also, I got a note a few weeks ago stating that they just now noticed I got tax free pay for being in a combat zone like 6 years ago (our boat pulled into the PI or something, can't remember which specific time they mentioned in the paperwork). I just have to give them some answers like who, what, when, where, and how hard. Anyone know if this is just standard, or should I be suspicious that they are suspicious?

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  • scrivenerjonesscrivenerjones Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Is it weird that in the 14 or so years of doing taxes (10 of them in the military) I have never once itemized my deductions? I always just take the standard whatever. Some people think I'm strange for doing that. Didn't really think it was an issue, I still get butt-tons of money back anyway.
    Depends, do you own a home? Homeowners are almost always better off itemizing because of the mortgage interest deduction, while renters are almost always better off taking the standard, but it varies by case.
    Also, I got a note a few weeks ago stating that they just now noticed I got tax free pay for being in a combat zone like 6 years ago (our boat pulled into the PI or something, can't remember which specific time they mentioned in the paperwork). I just have to give them some answers like who, what, when, where, and how hard. Anyone know if this is just standard, or should I be suspicious that they are suspicious?
    It takes a while for them to catch up. There are a lot of people filing tax returns every year, as it turns out. Sounds like nothing to worry about as long as you are in the right.

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  • LardalishLardalish Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Ok, so I thought of a new question.

    I am not a tax guy, I have no idea whats going on really even though Im 25 and REALLY should. So, this is the first year where Ive worked full time for 90% of it. Granted it was only at $8.50 and $9 an hour, but I guess paranoia about being broke as hell has come over me.

    Because I dont reall'y know how taxes work, I wanna know how much do you need to make per year before you need to pay taxes? Up to this year (and I imagine including this year) Ive only gotten refunds, but through TV and movies and such talking about how audits happen when you don't pay then government enough, I kind of want to know when I need to pay them.

    I really only make enough to support myself with a few extras here and there (Im talking, eating fast food and maybe playing an MTG Standard tournament here and there). When I tried to google this all I could find were things saying when you need to file your returns. I just want to know at what point do I need to start giving THEM money?

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  • mcpmcp Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Hi Tax thread.

    I'm doing my fiance's taxes, and her W2 has no employer state id number. Some of the people where she works are god damn idiots, so I assume they just fucked up and didn't enter it on her W2. Is this safe to say, or am I missing something?

    Also, is there a free resource to look this information up, or does she need to contact her HR department?

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  • LadyMLadyM Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Awesome, I was just thinking about the annual tax thread. Right now I'm in the boring "sit back and wait for the W-2" part, though.

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  • XarulsisXarulsis Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Lardalish wrote: »
    Ok, so I thought of a new question.

    I am not a tax guy, I have no idea whats going on really even though Im 25 and REALLY should. So, this is the first year where Ive worked full time for 90% of it. Granted it was only at $8.50 and $9 an hour, but I guess paranoia about being broke as hell has come over me.

    Because I dont reall'y know how taxes work, I wanna know how much do you need to make per year before you need to pay taxes? Up to this year (and I imagine including this year) Ive only gotten refunds, but through TV and movies and such talking about how audits happen when you don't pay then government enough, I kind of want to know when I need to pay them.

    I really only make enough to support myself with a few extras here and there (Im talking, eating fast food and maybe playing an MTG Standard tournament here and there). When I tried to google this all I could find were things saying when you need to file your returns. I just want to know at what point do I need to start giving THEM money?
    The tax code is thousands of pages of some of the driest law known to man. It's not surprising that most people don't know much about taxes.

    As for your tax inquiry, the standard deduction for the 2010 tax year is $5700 and the personal exemption is $3650. Assuming you are a single person who is not a dependant you should get both. This will knock out $9350 of taxable income from the start. Since I don't know your current situation, lets assume these are your only deductions. To guesstimate your yearly income lets multiply $8.75 by 52 weeks times 90% times 40 hours a week. We get $16,380 for the year with this estimate. Subtract your deduction and we get $7030 that needs to be taxed. The tax rate for this income is 10% and we get $703 due for taxes. If you already had more money withheld on your paycheck then you should get a refund, if not, then you owe taxes.

    Keep in mind this is a worst case scenario assuming you don't fit the requirements for any other credits or deductions.

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  • scrivenerjonesscrivenerjones Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    mcp wrote: »
    Hi Tax thread.

    I'm doing my fiance's taxes, and her W2 has no employer state id number. Some of the people where she works are god damn idiots, so I assume they just fucked up and didn't enter it on her W2. Is this safe to say, or am I missing something?

    Also, is there a free resource to look this information up, or does she need to contact her HR department?

    She'll need to hassle the company about it. It's on them to furnish W-2s with correct information, so even if she just gives up and files without having the number I doubt she would get in any trouble.

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  • ViscountalphaViscountalpha The pen is mightier than the sword http://youtu.be/G_sBOsh-vyIRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    a5ehren wrote: »
    Does anyone know if the IRS has their shit straight so as soon as I get my W2 (Damn you kroger main office) that I can file without the taxes without worrying.

    Supposedly due to the tax cuts being kept for two more years?

    IRS says they'll start processing e-files for 1040 Schedule A returns (itemized deductions) on Feb 14, and all the major vendors will hold your return until then if you go ahead and do it now. 1040EZ returns can file whenever.


    Thanks for the heads up. Yea. I'm a 1040EZ because I just don't have much to deduct. Single, No house..ect .ect, Some charitable donations but its far below the standard deduction.

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  • symbolsorsymbolsor Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    So I totally messed up last year and...(i know i know i know) didn't file my taxes. Am I in deep shit? I was supposed to get something like 20 bucks back but kept postponing it for some reason. If I bring my tax stuff from last year into a place like H&R block, would they help me out? =(

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  • localh77localh77 Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    symbolsor wrote: »
    So I totally messed up last year and...(i know i know i know) didn't file my taxes. Am I in deep shit? I was supposed to get something like 20 bucks back but kept postponing it for some reason. If I bring my tax stuff from last year into a place like H&R block, would they help me out? =(

    Well, you'll want to get that taken care of, but you won't be in deep shit. There are penalties for not filing, and I could be wrong about this, but I think the penalties only apply if you owe. If you are due a refund, I don't think there will be any penalty (again, I'm not an accountant).

    I'd recommend just going in to H&R Block (if that's who you use) and getting both your 2009 and 2010 returns done at the same time. I don't know if they'll charge you any less, but it would be more convenient for you.

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  • symbolsorsymbolsor Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I usually use TurboTax but I don't think they handle last years taxes this year. At least, I couldn't find the option if they did. Either way, that's a pretty big weight off my shoulders, I'll wait until I get my forms in and do like you said.

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  • ViscountalphaViscountalpha The pen is mightier than the sword http://youtu.be/G_sBOsh-vyIRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    LadyM wrote: »
    Awesome, I was just thinking about the annual tax thread. Right now I'm in the boring "sit back and wait for the W-2" part, though.

    Same here. I thought by law it has to be out SOON though. I believe someone told me the 27th. Which would be today actually.

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  • a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    LadyM wrote: »
    Awesome, I was just thinking about the annual tax thread. Right now I'm in the boring "sit back and wait for the W-2" part, though.

    Same here. I thought by law it has to be out SOON though. I believe someone told me the 27th. Which would be today actually.

    Postmarked by the 31st. That's the only requirement.

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  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    So, the store I worked at last year went out of business....I should still be getting my W2, right?

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  • Liquid HellzLiquid Hellz Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Is there any way I can get out of repaying the IRS for the first first time homebuyer tax credit? (the original one that was for a max of $7,500 and expired at the end of 2008) They are now requiring repayment of it over a 15 year period.

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  • KillgrimageKillgrimage Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Is there any way I can get out of repaying the IRS for the first first time homebuyer tax credit? (the original one that was for a max of $7,500 and expired at the end of 2008) They are now requiring repayment of it over a 15 year period.

    Afaik, that is a no interest loan from the government so...no? They want their monies back.

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  • Niceguy MyeyeNiceguy Myeye Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Dearest Tax Thread,

    I have never e-filed before. This is mainly because I'm not going to spend any money to do so. I always see that the IRS and the state will display some programs that offer e-filing for free, but when I go to investigate them, it always looks like there either some ridiculous hoop to jump through or some scammy sort BUT that will make you pay anyways.

    My taxes aren't complicated and I don't itemize, so far it just seems easier to do it by paper. Is there any advice for e-filing or should I just keep doing the paper way? I honestly just don't get why they don't have an official online e-file web page for either State or US taxes.

    My state is GA if that helps.

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  • localh77localh77 Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    So, the store I worked at last year went out of business....I should still be getting my W2, right?

    You should (as in, they have to send you one), but that doesn't guarantee that you will. If you don't, you basically just need to try to get it (call, email, whatever). Then if you still can't get it, you submit your return with a substitute W-2, where you basically fill in the numbers yourself (ideally using your last pay stub) and explain why you couldn't get a real one. No big deal, but obviously it's easier to get the real one.

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  • localh77localh77 Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Dearest Tax Thread,

    I have never e-filed before. This is mainly because I'm not going to spend any money to do so. I always see that the IRS and the state will display some programs that offer e-filing for free, but when I go to investigate them, it always looks like there either some ridiculous hoop to jump through or some scammy sort BUT that will make you pay anyways.

    My taxes aren't complicated and I don't itemize, so far it just seems easier to do it by paper. Is there any advice for e-filing or should I just keep doing the paper way? I honestly just don't get why they don't have an official online e-file web page for either State or US taxes.

    My state is GA if that helps.

    I've had the same complaint in the past, sowhat I did last year was use freefilefillableforms.com. It's honest-to-goodness free, but you have to fill in the forms manually (as opposed to other free sites, where they ask you questions and fill out the forms for you). If your return isn't too complicated, though, filling it out yourself really isn't hard.

    And if you have an AGI less that $58,000, there are at least several sites that let you e-file for free (see http://www.irs.gov/efile/article/0,,id=118986,00.html).

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  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I have a (really far too late, but I'm still curious) question about the various college tuition tax credits:

    Tuition, room, & board during my four undergraduate years were largely paid for by a handful of scholarships. Similarly, in graduate school the university picked up my tuition and paid me a stipend on top of that. Of course my stipend was taxable, and (as I always understood it, at least) the portion of my scholarships above and beyond the cost of tuition of was taxable as well.

    Given my situation, I was never eligible for any of the college tax credits, was I? I don't feel like I ever owed more in taxes than I ought to (heck, since having a child, my wife & I basically don't owe anything any more), but I've always been curious if I've been leaving some money on the table.

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