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Al jazeera loves the word unprecedented. all their reporters sound shocked and in awe.
Lots of protesters on a bridge, the riot police keep pushing them off, then they return.
Just be worried if the Muslim Brotherhood comes to power. They claim to condemn the 9/11 attacks and acts of terror (good for the West), but their entire goal is to force society, family, and state to look to the Qu'ran and such as the sole reference point.
Pretty much the kind of right-wing assholes that oppose freedom.
Basically, Iran 2.0
And thank you, Al Jazeera English, for the livestream.
That's pretty much the only case, in fact. Peaceful democratic regimes do not arise from street riots.
I guess we could get lucky and have another secular thug take power and maintain the status quo. But it's either status quo or downhill.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/11/01/translated-excerpts-from-egyptian-activists-action-plan/70388/
Watching the livestream on Al-Jazera, crazy stuff. They gave up tipping that armored car and set it on fire instead. Did they loot guns in it? Some people near it seemed to have automatics and teargas launchers when I started the stream.
I'm quite worried about that as well, but OTOH, well, they already have a right wing asshole who opposes freedom.
They do to some extent, hence the burning armored police vehicles. That said rocks are easier on the budget for the 25% unemployment rate youth.
Ego hit it right on the head;
Ominous.
I think that's overly simplistic. Many democracies had violent beginnings.
For what it's worth, Al Jazeera said that the Army is practically revered by the civilians of Egypt.
Edit: It's "alledgedly" the Army, no strong confirmation yet.
Edit: Police forces have almost completely in Alexandria.
Here's the possible Army vehicle seen:
Spoilered for biggish
The riot police v. civilians on the bridge is just back and forth back and forth. Same as before ... Riot police run on the bridge, fire off tear gas, run back off the bridge, civilians retreat, civilians run back up, grab tear gas, throw it back at police controlled section of the bridge. Repeat. The police look pretty disorganized.
Christ, now the police are throwing rocks.
Government has ordered a curfew, but I don't see how the hell they're gonna enforce that.
Protesters have taken the bridge; some protesters are making the other protesters stop throwing rocks at the police. It's prayer time, protesters are trying to assemble for prayer and the police don't seem to be attacking them. There's a policeman off the bridge who's definitely injured.
State security has entered the building the Al Jazeera reporters are broadcasting from.
Riot police are giving the protesters a wide berth to do their evening prayers, though they're less than 50 feet away. I don't think the riot police's heart is in it anymore, but that's just a gut feeling from their body language.
No update on the state security entering the building, except that they have shields and batons.
Yes, they do.
Or we could get lucky and let the people who live in the region determine their own futures.
Also, I'd like to reiteriate my previous comments on the lack of perfection in all democracies. It is pretty fucking rich to sit here and decry what a theoretical future democracy might or might not implement in the accordance of the will of it's people, while living in the nations we live in, with our respective histories of mistakes and errors.
There's at least 20, probably more, new police vans that have just showed up, no one's disembarked yet.
This is way too broad a statement to hold any truth.
Populism is nothing but pure democracy, and populism is terrible.
Classy people those Egyptians.
good luck with that
what the fuck are they PLANNING O_o
Even tyranny of the majority is better than actual tyranny.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2011/jan/28/egypt-protests-live-updates
Protesters aren't going anywhere, very close to the riot police, but no violence yet.
What was the final score?
Doesn't make tyranny of the majority inherently good
"No indication that the police have the situation under control."
Army vehicles are showing up at the bridge on the underpasses.
What time is it over there?
They've shown up, but AJ hasn't shown any activity from them outside of that.
Oh wait, civilians are surrounding one of the troop carriers, military personel are pouring out
Holy shit, they're shaking the carrier.
Edit: It's just a little after 6 pm.