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I want to reformat my computer, delete my RAID setup, nuke!

SatsumomoSatsumomo Rated PG!Registered User regular
edited January 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
Heyo, some of you might remember this thread:

File Access Denied

As you can see from the last post, the troube came back and it's not going away. I'm done with this, so I'm nuking my computer, deleting my RAID setup and starting it up again. Now, to avoid this dumb error again, what should I do to copy my files?

First thing that comes to my mind is to format my external HDD to FAT32 and then copy everything there. From what I believe, this means that all security settings will be gone, but also, any file over 4GB will not work, right?

What to do?

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  • KakodaimonosKakodaimonos Code fondler Helping the 1% get richerRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    You can also not mess with the FAT32 which can cause issues with the filenames and use ICACLS after you copy the files back to set all the ACL permissions.

    ICACLS

    And I'd suggest using ROBOCOPY to copy the files to the external drive.

    Make sure you know how to set up your RAID and partitions correctly before wiping. And make sure any docs you may need to read to do so are accessible on another machine.

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  • SatsumomoSatsumomo Rated PG! Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    But wouldn't using robocopy and icacls transfer all these dumb file permissions back over to my new installation?

    I was running Windows 7 x64 trial or whatever it was and it was running perfectly. I formatted to the retail version, Win7 x64 Professional and I started getting those dumb errors from day 1. They happen to files located anywhere, and they're completely random.

    Like I'll be downloading something from Firefox, and it won't let me copy the file anywhere, because I do not have writing permissions. Wait 10 or so minutes and I can do whatever I want.

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    If the permissions are changing over time, something else is borked. Like there's something accessing it and putting a lock on it.

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  • SatsumomoSatsumomo Rated PG! Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    It's just that it doesn't seem to be permissions related though. It's just weird, specially because it only affects exe files, and temporarily.

    But I don't know too much about the subject, so it could or not be.

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Hmm, exe files you say? When downloading? Could be your virus scanner is scanning the file while it's in the tmp folder and somehow not releasing it so it can be moved to it's actual location or something.
    Try this. Download ProcMon. Start it up, and start downloading things or whatever. Soon as you come across a file that gives you problems (or, if you can get it to repeatedly give you problems, start it up afterwards. It collects tons of data, so the less time it's running, the easier it is.) Then, just do a search and filter by that filenam and it should show you why it's failing.

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  • KakodaimonosKakodaimonos Code fondler Helping the 1% get richerRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Wait, did you reuse the user profile from the first Win 7 install in the second install? Or were they the same name? Because that can cause issues with the file permissions.

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  • SatsumomoSatsumomo Rated PG! Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I didn't use the same profile, I just copied all data and used the same name. However, changing names now doesn't seem to work.

    Tofy, I will try this out. It usually doesn't let me delete exe files within folders.

    Edit:


    Procmon results

    I created F:\TEMP\TEMP2 and copied the meatboy exe into TEMP2

    I try to delete TEMP2 and immediately get a "Cannot delete" error because it's in use/I don't have permissions.

    10:24:43.7982893 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 RegOpenKey HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\meatboy.exe NAME NOT FOUND Desired Access: Read
    10:24:43.7983412 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 RegOpenKey HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\meatboy.exe NAME NOT FOUND Desired Access: Read
    10:24:44.3054782 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 QueryDirectory F:\TEMP\Temp2 SUCCESS 0: .., 1: meatboy.exe
    10:24:44.3056176 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 CreateFile F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS Desired Access: Read Attributes, Delete, Read Control, Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Open Reparse Point, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
    10:24:44.3056468 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 QueryAttributeTagFile F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS Attributes: A, ReparseTag: 0x0
    10:24:44.3056630 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 SetDispositionInformationFile F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS Delete: True
    10:24:44.3057237 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 SetDispositionInformationFile F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS Delete: False
    10:24:44.3057410 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 CloseFile F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS
    10:25:12.3970245 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 QueryDirectory F:\TEMP\Temp2 SUCCESS 0: ., 1: .., 2: meatboy.exe
    10:25:12.4429766 p.m. Dropbox.exe 2728 QueryOpen F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS CreationTime: 26/01/2011 10:23:42 p.m., LastAccessTime: 26/01/2011 10:23:42 p.m., LastWriteTime: 02/12/2010 01:17:02 p.m., ChangeTime: 26/01/2011 10:23:42 p.m., AllocationSize: 150,892,544, EndOfFile: 150,891,950, FileAttributes: A
    10:25:12.4432368 p.m. Dropbox.exe 2728 QueryDirectory F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS Filter: meatboy.exe, 1: meatboy.exe
    10:25:12.4448916 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 CreateFile F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS Desired Access: Read Attributes, Read Control, Disposition: Open, Options: Open Reparse Point, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
    10:25:12.4449393 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 QuerySecurityFile F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS Information: Owner, DACL
    10:25:12.4449558 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 CloseFile F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS
    10:25:12.4450256 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 QueryOpen F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS CreationTime: 26/01/2011 10:23:42 p.m., LastAccessTime: 26/01/2011 10:23:42 p.m., LastWriteTime: 02/12/2010 01:17:02 p.m., ChangeTime: 26/01/2011 10:23:42 p.m., AllocationSize: 150,892,544, EndOfFile: 150,891,950, FileAttributes: A
    10:25:12.4462030 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 CreateFile F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS Desired Access: Read Attributes, Read Control, Disposition: Open, Options: Open Reparse Point, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
    10:25:12.4462283 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 QuerySecurityFile F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe BUFFER OVERFLOW Information: Owner, DACL
    10:25:12.4462456 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 QuerySecurityFile F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS Information: Owner, DACL
    10:25:12.4462621 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 CloseFile F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS
    10:25:12.4463302 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 QueryOpen F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS CreationTime: 26/01/2011 10:23:42 p.m., LastAccessTime: 26/01/2011 10:23:42 p.m., LastWriteTime: 02/12/2010 01:17:02 p.m., ChangeTime: 26/01/2011 10:23:42 p.m., AllocationSize: 150,892,544, EndOfFile: 150,891,950, FileAttributes: A
    10:25:12.4465907 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 CreateFile F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS Desired Access: Read Attributes, Read Control, Disposition: Open, Options: Open Reparse Point, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
    10:25:12.4466154 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 QuerySecurityFile F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe BUFFER OVERFLOW Information: Owner, DACL
    10:25:12.4466319 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 QuerySecurityFile F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS Information: Owner, DACL
    10:25:12.4466480 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 CloseFile F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS
    10:25:12.4469506 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 QueryOpen F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS CreationTime: 26/01/2011 10:23:42 p.m., LastAccessTime: 26/01/2011 10:23:42 p.m., LastWriteTime: 02/12/2010 01:17:02 p.m., ChangeTime: 26/01/2011 10:23:42 p.m., AllocationSize: 150,892,544, EndOfFile: 150,891,950, FileAttributes: A
    10:25:12.4469968 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 QueryOpen F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS CreationTime: 26/01/2011 10:23:42 p.m., LastAccessTime: 26/01/2011 10:23:42 p.m., LastWriteTime: 02/12/2010 01:17:02 p.m., ChangeTime: 26/01/2011 10:23:42 p.m., AllocationSize: 150,892,544, EndOfFile: 150,891,950, FileAttributes: A

    After this, I waited a few minutes, tried again and it deleted succesfully:

    10:27:31.9983596 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 CreateFile F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS Desired Access: Read Attributes, Delete, Read Control, Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Open Reparse Point, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
    10:27:31.9983897 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 QueryAttributeTagFile F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS Attributes: A, ReparseTag: 0x0
    10:27:31.9984061 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 SetDispositionInformationFile F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS Delete: True
    10:27:31.9984266 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 SetDispositionInformationFile F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS Delete: False
    10:27:31.9984439 p.m. Explorer.EXE 1940 CloseFile F:\TEMP\Temp2\meatboy.exe SUCCESS


    That's all.

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