So can anyone answer my question about the browser?
I think someone said earlier that its an issue since Adobe killed mobile flash after Sony announced it as a feature? So its going to get HTML5 support, but Flash might or might not be fixed.
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That is a huge letdown if it is the case. Like, dealbreaker kind of letdown
Ironically the Vita is the only 3G type device of its kind for what I need it for!
Have you ever used Mobile Flash? It is terrible. This is not a bad thing that it won't be crashing your Vita randomly.
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I'll be getting this when I can actually download all the PSP games I own onto it, as well as my PS1 classics. I can see why they launched without full capability (the bottom line is the dollar sign) but still, it's farts.
Frei on
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Yes, we're better off in the long run without mobile flash. Think of it a a blessing in disguise.
Everything looks beautiful when you're young and pretty
So if I was to purchase a Vita this weekend, what's the place to get it at. Any place having specials?
Most of the deals around have been buy 2 get 1 on the games. I would suggest looking up which launch titles you want and then basing your purchase off of that.
It blows my mind when I see actual real people that legitimately desire Flash to be implemented anywhere. I really thought it was just people using lack of flash as a 'con' against the iPhone. Flash is terrible and mobile flash is even worse. I can't think of a single place I visit that has used flash in the last 3+ years.
Not that your disappointment in a perceived lie is stupid... I'm just shocked that people still want Flash.
So. Wipeout. I'm capable of advancing in the story, still getting Passes in 2050... but fuck Sol. Seriously. I can't be the only one that simply can't compete on that track, am I? It's godamn beautiful but apparently I just NEED to bounce off a few walls every once in a while.
Finally getting to play Tactics Ogre was totally worth the price of my Vita. I also was weak and got Dissidia 2 (or 012 whatever) and will probably get Patapon 3 because...well, freakin' PATAPON.
Any other good RPGs to recommend for Vita that were on PSP? I have a lot of the PSOne and PS2 stuff but of course that doesn't work yet.
Jeanne D'arc is very good. One of the few JRPGs I've finished recently. (I believe its on psn)
I’ll tell you what happens in Demon’s Souls when you die. You come back as a ghost with your health capped at half. And when you keep on dying, the alignment of the world turns black and the enemies get harder. That’s right, when you fail in this game, it gets harder. Why? Because fuck you is why.
Lumines is doing bad things to me. Starting up to see a friend has blow past the 650k score I was proud of is the worst.
I'm not going to get any work done today. At all.
Come on, it's not that hard to put down the ga-
The future of the future will still contain the past
Hnnnnggggghhhh
Does the Black Market not work for Uncharted? Every time I launch it, it says "Network Features Disabled".
Also, when a game has an update, do you always have to manually install it (by clicking the icon above the game's Vita menu), or will it update when you start the game?
Do you also have to open up your friend's list or group messaging in order to be notified when you get new messages? That happened just now when I opened up my friend's list.
Lumines is doing bad things to me. Starting up to see a friend has blow past the 650k score I was proud of is the worst.
I'm not going to get any work done today. At all.
Come on, it's not that hard to put down the ga-
The future of the future will still contain the past
Hnnnnggggghhhh
Does the Black Market not work for Uncharted? Every time I launch it, it says "Network Features Disabled".
Also, when a game has an update, do you always have to manually install it (by clicking the icon above the game's Vita menu), or will it update when you start the game?
Do you also have to open up your friend's list or group messaging in order to be notified when you get new messages? That happened just now when I opened up my friend's list.
I believe you have to keep the messages window open in the back to be notified when you get a message.
CorriganX on Steam and just about everywhere else.
Like I said before, they need to integrate it so that you can read your messages on the fly. Having to connect to an app and wait for it to load is crap.
They need to fix that as well as let you cycle between downloaded games without losing progress. Come on, these should be easy as hell to do.
Also, is there a way to check if something you commented on (like a friend's trophy acquisition) gets a follow-up comment?
-Ubisoft was totally on board and excited for a Lumines Daft Punk
-Mizuguchi has met with Daft Punk before at Earth Day events. Daft Punk knew his games and Rez
-Daft Punk management were interested but DP were working on the Tron Legacy soundtrack at the time
-Daft Punk was interested but didn't want to use pre-existing music. They would have created new content but there was no time because they were working on Tron Legacy's soundtrack
Been playing Hotshots and Stardust Delta. Question, what's the Wipeout 2048 Online Pass for $9.99? Is that required to play online? There's something similar under Hot Shots Golf as well, some International pass? Any thoughts on Rayman? Loving the demo so far.
Downloading Lumines demo now. Never played a Lumines game before, so, we'll see if I'm immune to it or not. :P Hoping my wife isn't, since she has to okay the extra $15 I'd need to buy it.
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Finally getting to play Tactics Ogre was totally worth the price of my Vita. I also was weak and got Dissidia 2 (or 012 whatever) and will probably get Patapon 3 because...well, freakin' PATAPON.
Any other good RPGs to recommend for Vita that were on PSP? I have a lot of the PSOne and PS2 stuff but of course that doesn't work yet.
Jeanne D'arc is very good. One of the few JRPGs I've finished recently. (I believe its on psn)
I've actually played that one. Indeed it was good. A fine suggestion for anyone who may have missed it.
Been playing Hotshots and Stardust Delta. Question, what's the Wipeout 2048 Online Pass for $9.99? Is that required to play online? There's something similar under Hot Shots Golf as well, some International pass? Any thoughts on Rayman? Loving the demo so far.
If you buy a copy of the cartridge used, you wont be able to get online unless you buy the online pass. If you buy the game new, or download the full game, you won't need it.
CorriganX on Steam and just about everywhere else.
Been playing Hotshots and Stardust Delta. Question, what's the Wipeout 2048 Online Pass for $9.99? Is that required to play online? There's something similar under Hot Shots Golf as well, some International pass? Any thoughts on Rayman? Loving the demo so far.
Yes, they are needed to play online. Passes come with new game purchases though, it's meant to get money out of people who bought used.
I bought Lumines because I was going to show it to my mom who loves tetris games. So i'm sitting next to her on the couch while she plays, showing it off and pointing out to her what she should do. 2 minutes in I had stolen the vita back and was playing the hell out of it. Goddamn Lumines. Breaking apart families.
CorriganX on Steam and just about everywhere else.
I sat down with Lumines, played through Voyage mode and went through each track in the first go. After it gave me the trophy, I basically went "okay what else does it have" and then lost on purpose. I kind of wish I hadn't! Master mode is hard as balls.
I also hit 3 hours played yesterday but it didn't give me the trophy even though I thought I was in the 24 hour period. so disappoint.
I sat down with Lumines, played through Voyage mode and went through each track in the first go. After it gave me the trophy, I basically went "okay what else does it have" and then lost on purpose. I kind of wish I hadn't! Master mode is hard as balls.
I also hit 3 hours played yesterday but it didn't give me the trophy even though I thought I was in the 24 hour period. so disappoint.
Is there a way to track playtime for individual games?
I sat down with Lumines, played through Voyage mode and went through each track in the first go. After it gave me the trophy, I basically went "okay what else does it have" and then lost on purpose. I kind of wish I hadn't! Master mode is hard as balls.
I also hit 3 hours played yesterday but it didn't give me the trophy even though I thought I was in the 24 hour period. so disappoint.
Is there a way to track playtime for individual games?
In Voyage mode (maybe others as well), it shows you the time played for that current game on the right side, but that's about it.
How do these 'buy PSN games and play them on your Vita' things I'm hearing work out?
Pretty much how you'd expect. You can use the on-system interface to buy stuff and download it over wifi, or you can buy stuff on the PS3 and transfer it over USB after you've downloaded it, or you can do the same on a PC.
What about playing PS3 games on your Vita?
There's cross-platform save and in some cases DLC compatibility for some games (the big one they're pushing in ads is The Show), and cross-platform multiplayer in some as well (Wipeout). Some games may eventually be released in PS3/PSV combos--not sure if that's beyond the point of speculation yet, it's just a thing I've seen bandied about.
Thanks, so the PSN stuff, is that PSV-specific, or do PS3 games work?
What I'm getting at, if there was a Microsoft handheld which played XBLA games, I'd buy that in a heartbeat. As a massive 360 fan, I have a decent library of those titles already. If this can play existing PS3-owning folks PSN games, that is pretty amazing. This is the most impressive piece of hardware from Sony since the original Playstation, IMHO.
Yeah, this really isn't possible. PSN and XBLA games may seem like they're small scale but they are still PS3/360 games and require the actual hardware. So unless Sony/Microsoft managed to scale down the PS3/360 hardware to fit into a handheld or they designed a handheld powerful enough to emulate both systems, that's not going to happen. The second one is inevitable anyway but it won't be for a while and by then, we'll be so far from this generation that it won't really matter.
This isn't true at all.
At least in terms of CPU / GPU / RAM you could easily get the specs of a 360 into a handheld these days. The hardware spec is from over 9 years ago now.
Honestly the hardest part would be getting the controls right. Sony sure as hell can't manage it so it can't be all that simple an engineering problem.
It was totally true. Yes, you may be able to somehow squeeze the 360's innards into handheld form but realistically, it'd be useless. Battery life, overheating and manufacturing costs would be FAR bigger problems than the controls of all things (which are great with the Vita Mr Troll).
It isn't like the specs of the Vita aren't comparable to the 360, honestly. The ARM CPU is an impressive beast, as is the GPU under the hood. PowerVR and ARM based stuff have a pretty incredible amount of optimization and such available as well so further down the line we could hopefully see really big strides in performance.
Sure but there's a difference in design. The Vita (and its components) were designed for use in a handheld, so are as efficient as possible. The 360? Not so much. Just look at the other two consoles turned handhelds (the Game Gear and Nomad). Emulation's the only real way you could pull it off but again, by the time that's possible (at a decent price), the 360 will be long dead (and the marketplace probably shut down).
Lucascraft, I've heard nothing but positive impressions of About a Blob. Moreso than the original actually.
And thanks for the update vagrant_winds.
Well, I was more just meaning running most PSN games or XBLA games on the PSV would be possible. I mean most XBLA games just use XNA, which is just a weirdly modified C and doesn't usually stress the system in any particular fashion from what I've noticed. Nor do they take a very beastly PC to run emulated/natively.
PSN games are probably fairly similar in being simple to run if the changes were made (Course there are also minis which ran on both PSP and PS3.)
Not to say it'd realistically happen, but its there.
More realistic, I expect to see android/iOS ports. Since the PSV is running the same hardware as a large number of android phones and the iphone. That'd be pretty rad.
Huh? I think you've got a few facts wrong there.
As far as I'm aware, NO XBLA games run on XNA. XNA is solely used for their Indie Games and that's basically it (though you will see XNA games on Steam, like a certain Breath of Death). Seeing as they run on a virtual machine, they should be really easy to bring over to a new environment but those aren't the XBLA games you're probably thinking of.
Normal PSN/XBLA games though, are no different from retail games. They're built using the devkits they have to order from Sony/Microsoft and are programmed like any Gears or Uncharted. The only way you're going to get these games on another system (excluding ports) is either through including the hardware in that system (like the early PS3s, which had the PS2 CPU and GPU included) or emulating it.
As for Minis, those were another thing entirely. They were essentially PSP games, but restricted in a lot of different ways (couldn't be online, less than 100MB, etc). And the only reason they ran on the PS3 was because they were actually being emulated on an early version of the emulator the Vita now uses to run PSP games.
What seems to be Sony's next step with this is PlayStation Suite, which will be somewhat similar to the Indie Games I mentioned earlier actually. Games will be programmed in C# (a Microsoft language, which makes it funny to me), run on a virtual machine and be compatible with any PS Suite supported device (so right now, the Vita and all 2.3+ Android phones). You wouldn't even need to port games from Android to Vita if they supported PS Suite, they'd instantly support them both.
Oh and C# isn't weird at all by the way, it's basically just Java. There are obviously some differences but the idea behind them is the same.
How do these 'buy PSN games and play them on your Vita' things I'm hearing work out?
Pretty much how you'd expect. You can use the on-system interface to buy stuff and download it over wifi, or you can buy stuff on the PS3 and transfer it over USB after you've downloaded it, or you can do the same on a PC.
What about playing PS3 games on your Vita?
There's cross-platform save and in some cases DLC compatibility for some games (the big one they're pushing in ads is The Show), and cross-platform multiplayer in some as well (Wipeout). Some games may eventually be released in PS3/PSV combos--not sure if that's beyond the point of speculation yet, it's just a thing I've seen bandied about.
Thanks, so the PSN stuff, is that PSV-specific, or do PS3 games work?
What I'm getting at, if there was a Microsoft handheld which played XBLA games, I'd buy that in a heartbeat. As a massive 360 fan, I have a decent library of those titles already. If this can play existing PS3-owning folks PSN games, that is pretty amazing. This is the most impressive piece of hardware from Sony since the original Playstation, IMHO.
Yeah, this really isn't possible. PSN and XBLA games may seem like they're small scale but they are still PS3/360 games and require the actual hardware. So unless Sony/Microsoft managed to scale down the PS3/360 hardware to fit into a handheld or they designed a handheld powerful enough to emulate both systems, that's not going to happen. The second one is inevitable anyway but it won't be for a while and by then, we'll be so far from this generation that it won't really matter.
This isn't true at all.
At least in terms of CPU / GPU / RAM you could easily get the specs of a 360 into a handheld these days. The hardware spec is from over 9 years ago now.
Honestly the hardest part would be getting the controls right. Sony sure as hell can't manage it so it can't be all that simple an engineering problem.
It was totally true. Yes, you may be able to somehow squeeze the 360's innards into handheld form but realistically, it'd be useless. Battery life, overheating and manufacturing costs would be FAR bigger problems than the controls of all things (which are great with the Vita Mr Troll).
It isn't like the specs of the Vita aren't comparable to the 360, honestly. The ARM CPU is an impressive beast, as is the GPU under the hood. PowerVR and ARM based stuff have a pretty incredible amount of optimization and such available as well so further down the line we could hopefully see really big strides in performance.
Sure but there's a difference in design. The Vita (and its components) were designed for use in a handheld, so are as efficient as possible. The 360? Not so much. Just look at the other two consoles turned handhelds (the Game Gear and Nomad). Emulation's the only real way you could pull it off but again, by the time that's possible (at a decent price), the 360 will be long dead (and the marketplace probably shut down).
Lucascraft, I've heard nothing but positive impressions of About a Blob. Moreso than the original actually.
And thanks for the update vagrant_winds.
Well, I was more just meaning running most PSN games or XBLA games on the PSV would be possible. I mean most XBLA games just use XNA, which is just a weirdly modified C and doesn't usually stress the system in any particular fashion from what I've noticed. Nor do they take a very beastly PC to run emulated/natively.
PSN games are probably fairly similar in being simple to run if the changes were made (Course there are also minis which ran on both PSP and PS3.)
Not to say it'd realistically happen, but its there.
More realistic, I expect to see android/iOS ports. Since the PSV is running the same hardware as a large number of android phones and the iphone. That'd be pretty rad.
Huh? I think you've got a few facts wrong there.
As far as I'm aware, NO XBLA games run on XNA. XNA is solely used for their Indie Games and that's basically it (though you will see XNA games on Steam, like a certain Breath of Death). Seeing as they run on a virtual machine, they should be really easy to bring over to a new environment but those aren't the XBLA games you're probably thinking of.
Normal PSN/XBLA games though, are no different from retail games. They're built using the devkits they have to order from Sony/Microsoft and are programmed like any Gears or Uncharted. The only way you're going to get these games on another system (excluding ports) is either through including the hardware in that system (like the early PS3s, which had the PS2 CPU and GPU included) or emulating it.
As for Minis, those were another thing entirely. They were essentially PSP games, but restricted in a lot of different ways (couldn't be online, less than 100MB, etc). And the only reason they ran on the PS3 was because they were actually being emulated on an early version of the emulator the Vita now uses to run PSP games.
What seems to be Sony's next step with this is PlayStation Suite, which will be somewhat similar to the Indie Games I mentioned earlier actually. Games will be programmed in C# (a Microsoft language, which makes it funny to me), run on a virtual machine and be compatible with any PS Suite supported device (so right now, the Vita and all 2.3+ Android phones). You wouldn't even need to port games from Android to Vita if they supported PS Suite, they'd instantly support them both.
Oh and C# isn't weird at all by the way, it's basically just Java. There are obviously some differences but the idea behind them is the same.
Minis are so weird. On my PS3, they take far longer to initialize than any other type of game. I tried loading Fieldrunnners the other day and I thought my PS3 had locked up.
I sat down with Lumines, played through Voyage mode and went through each track in the first go. After it gave me the trophy, I basically went "okay what else does it have" and then lost on purpose. I kind of wish I hadn't! Master mode is hard as balls.
I also hit 3 hours played yesterday but it didn't give me the trophy even though I thought I was in the 24 hour period. so disappoint.
Is there a way to track playtime for individual games?
In Voyage mode (maybe others as well), it shows you the time played for that current game on the right side, but that's about it.
Ah, I thought you had found some sort of playtime clock in the Vita OS. I was excited. Oh well.
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Now that the Vita is out I just gotta know something relating to the web browser.
So Sony advertised that the Vita can play flash video, but when I tried watching a flash-based video (or any videos, even YouTube stuff), it says I need to install the latest version of Flash video. Whenever I click the link directing me to the installation however, it tells me I already have the latest version installed (???)
So basically it has Flash installed in the browser, but you can't watch flash (or any) videos yet, which seems like a monumentally stupid thing to screw up.
Am I doing something wrong, or did Sony seriously advertise one thing and not deliver at all?
I heard that Flash/HTML5 support was coming post release. Could be wrong though.
Just played a few battles in Tactics Ogre for the first time. Oh boy. Hadn't played a good SRPG in a while, and now I remember how much I love the genre. It's gonna be so hard to decide what I want to play whenever I sit down with the Vita during the next few weeks/months.
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I think someone said earlier that its an issue since Adobe killed mobile flash after Sony announced it as a feature? So its going to get HTML5 support, but Flash might or might not be fixed.
Ironically the Vita is the only 3G type device of its kind for what I need it for!
My Let's Play Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UC2go70QLfwGq-hW4nvUqmog
Have you ever used Mobile Flash? It is terrible. This is not a bad thing that it won't be crashing your Vita randomly.
Most of the deals around have been buy 2 get 1 on the games. I would suggest looking up which launch titles you want and then basing your purchase off of that.
Not that your disappointment in a perceived lie is stupid... I'm just shocked that people still want Flash.
So. Wipeout. I'm capable of advancing in the story, still getting Passes in 2050... but fuck Sol. Seriously. I can't be the only one that simply can't compete on that track, am I? It's godamn beautiful but apparently I just NEED to bounce off a few walls every once in a while.
"You may have noticed that the Unit 13 demo has been removed from PS Store. We are working to reinstate it as soon as possible."
It's still up in the Canadian store though.
I'm not going to get any work done today. At all.
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Get cash instead, use for vidja games.
Jeanne D'arc is very good. One of the few JRPGs I've finished recently. (I believe its on psn)
Let me tell you about Demon's Souls....
Oooh. $25 B&N card turns into $21 Amazon, which turns into $20 PSN card. Awesome.
How big is Lumines if I wanted to go Download instead of cart?
Come on, it's not that hard to put down the ga-
The future of the future will still contain the past
Hnnnnggggghhhh
Does the Black Market not work for Uncharted? Every time I launch it, it says "Network Features Disabled".
Also, when a game has an update, do you always have to manually install it (by clicking the icon above the game's Vita menu), or will it update when you start the game?
Do you also have to open up your friend's list or group messaging in order to be notified when you get new messages? That happened just now when I opened up my friend's list.
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I believe you have to keep the messages window open in the back to be notified when you get a message.
CorriganX on Steam and just about everywhere else.
Like I said before, they need to integrate it so that you can read your messages on the fly. Having to connect to an app and wait for it to load is crap.
They need to fix that as well as let you cycle between downloaded games without losing progress. Come on, these should be easy as hell to do.
Also, is there a way to check if something you commented on (like a friend's trophy acquisition) gets a follow-up comment?
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Same here. Except with Hot Shots Golf instead of Lumines.
Time goes slow and time goes fast
Not now!
Turns out this was going to be a thing:
I'm okay with a DLC pack.
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I would pay for some new songs
I did a full loop of Voyage on my first go and snagged the last few skins on my second day of owning the game, I need more
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Been playing Hotshots and Stardust Delta. Question, what's the Wipeout 2048 Online Pass for $9.99? Is that required to play online? There's something similar under Hot Shots Golf as well, some International pass? Any thoughts on Rayman? Loving the demo so far.
I've actually played that one. Indeed it was good. A fine suggestion for anyone who may have missed it.
If you buy a copy of the cartridge used, you wont be able to get online unless you buy the online pass. If you buy the game new, or download the full game, you won't need it.
CorriganX on Steam and just about everywhere else.
Yes, they are needed to play online. Passes come with new game purchases though, it's meant to get money out of people who bought used.
My Let's Play Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UC2go70QLfwGq-hW4nvUqmog
CorriganX on Steam and just about everywhere else.
I also hit 3 hours played yesterday but it didn't give me the trophy even though I thought I was in the 24 hour period. so disappoint.
Is there a way to track playtime for individual games?
In Voyage mode (maybe others as well), it shows you the time played for that current game on the right side, but that's about it.
As far as I'm aware, NO XBLA games run on XNA. XNA is solely used for their Indie Games and that's basically it (though you will see XNA games on Steam, like a certain Breath of Death). Seeing as they run on a virtual machine, they should be really easy to bring over to a new environment but those aren't the XBLA games you're probably thinking of.
Normal PSN/XBLA games though, are no different from retail games. They're built using the devkits they have to order from Sony/Microsoft and are programmed like any Gears or Uncharted. The only way you're going to get these games on another system (excluding ports) is either through including the hardware in that system (like the early PS3s, which had the PS2 CPU and GPU included) or emulating it.
As for Minis, those were another thing entirely. They were essentially PSP games, but restricted in a lot of different ways (couldn't be online, less than 100MB, etc). And the only reason they ran on the PS3 was because they were actually being emulated on an early version of the emulator the Vita now uses to run PSP games.
What seems to be Sony's next step with this is PlayStation Suite, which will be somewhat similar to the Indie Games I mentioned earlier actually. Games will be programmed in C# (a Microsoft language, which makes it funny to me), run on a virtual machine and be compatible with any PS Suite supported device (so right now, the Vita and all 2.3+ Android phones). You wouldn't even need to port games from Android to Vita if they supported PS Suite, they'd instantly support them both.
Oh and C# isn't weird at all by the way, it's basically just Java. There are obviously some differences but the idea behind them is the same.
Minis are so weird. On my PS3, they take far longer to initialize than any other type of game. I tried loading Fieldrunnners the other day and I thought my PS3 had locked up.
Ah, I thought you had found some sort of playtime clock in the Vita OS. I was excited. Oh well.