Knowledgeable = Intelligence?

DarknessOfMine

Are these words that different or one in the same?

Another person and I are having a bit of an argument since he thinks he's intelligent but not at all knowledgeable. To quote him:

"I am not knowledgeable though. Intelligent but not knowledgeable"

I think both words are closely related. I understand the argument that one can be both intelligent and ignorant or well-studied in a field and possess average intelligence. But in either case, both can be considered knowledgeable. Am I wrong with this thinking? Do I have a skew view of these terms?

Primarily, I am asking for help with interpreting these words in order to help this personal realize he's knowledgeable and not "bullshitting people into thinking he's know things when he doesn't." He has a knack for figuring things out with very little information. To me, that is as aspect of a knowledgeable individual.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Bowen

Intelligence conveys capacity. Knowledgeable conveys experience. They're related, but can have very different meanings. For instance a child can be intelligent, a good learner, but may very well not be knowledgeable.

Fantasma

To be Inteligent is not the same as knowledgeable.

From the source of all knowledge:

Intelligence is an umbrella term describing a property of the mind including related abilities, such as the capacities for abstract thought, understanding, communication, reasoning, learning, learning from past experiences, planning, and problem solving.

Knowledge is defined by the Oxford English Dictionary as (i) expertise, and skills acquired by a person through experience or education; the theoretical or practical understanding of a subject; (ii) what is known in a particular field or in total; facts and information; or (iii) be absolutely certain or sure about something: . Philosophical debates in general start with Plato's formulation of knowledge as "justified true belief."

Modern Man

Intelligence is a general state. Knowledge is specific.

Albert Einstein was much more intelligent than me, but I'm probably much more knowledgeable than him when it comes to the law (since I'm a lawyer).

ceres

You can also know everything there is to know about something, but not really have the ability to think critically about the subject or apply all that information to a new situation.

DarknessOfMine

How much must one know in order to be knowledgeable in a field? I know this is a vague question, but opinions are welcome.

Bowen

Enough to be proficient? I'm not really sure there's a real answer for that.

Mugaaz

DarknessOfMine wrote: »

How much must one know in order to be knowledgeable in a field? I know this is a vague question, but opinions are welcome.

Off the top of my head I'd say enough to be able to answer most questions presented to him by laymen and journeyman in his profession with little difficulty.

kaliyama

DarknessOfMine wrote: »

Are these words that different or one in the same?

Another person and I are having a bit of an argument since he thinks he's intelligent but not at all knowledgeable. To quote him:

"I am not knowledgeable though. Intelligent but not knowledgeable"

I think both words are closely related. I understand the argument that one can be both intelligent and ignorant or well-studied in a field and possess average intelligence. But in either case, both can be considered knowledgeable. Am I wrong with this thinking? Do I have a skew view of these terms?

Primarily, I am asking for help with interpreting these words in order to help this personal realize he's knowledgeable and not "bullshitting people into thinking he's know things when he doesn't." He has a knack for figuring things out with very little information. To me, that is as aspect of a knowledgeable individual.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

This seems more D&D. He's not knowledgeable, and more people should perceive the distinction between being bright and knowing a lot, as one will make foolish decisions if the former and not the latter, be unable to critically analyze if having the latter and not the former, and if he lacks both he should be governor of Texas.

Esh

You're wrong. Think of intelligence as straight book smarts and knowledge as wisdom.

For instance, my step-father is a doctor and ridiculously intelligent, but he has made some terrible, terrible decisions in his life for lack of wisdom and knowledge.

EggyToast

Another way to think about it is the socially-awkward scientist. Very intelligent, but not necessarily knowledgeable.

I know I generally interpret the word "knowledgeable" to mean a more broad base of knowledge. If you're knowledgeable about football, you know how the game is played, you know the teams, players, and so on. If you're "intelligent" about football you may, for example, run stats and get really into fantasy football.

Intelligence doesn't just mean "nerdy," though, but it tends to imply something more specific and outside of the general realm of what others would know.

Infidel

Wisdom is introducing a third concept, it is not analogous to knowledge. It is an application of knowledge, you may be knowledgeable but you are not wise unless you properly apply that in your decision making process.

ceres

This really is getting into D&D stuff, but would probably make a great thread over there if you construct an argument.

I'm going to lock this one, and if you'd like you can remake it there.