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Pokemon Thread XVII: Yes, Yes, Let's All Pay Attention To Stunfisk (Page 1 NSF56K)

DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
edited February 2011 in Social Entropy++
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MARCH 6th
March 4th in Europe

Is it that time again?
Yes. It is time for another Pokemon thread.
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The hell goes on in here?
Mostly, we just argue about which pokemon are the best, and Fiz talks about the anime and the rest of us have no idea what's going on, and sometimes dudes post bad fanart on purpose. As Gen 5 draws closer, formal construction of a new SE++ Pokemon League will likely begin, and at a prior agreed-upon date some time after the release of the new games, it will be open for battling. More on this as it happens.

Incidentally, which pokemon are the best?
All poison types, Scyther, and Magnezone. The rest rank somewhere below those ones.
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What is the newest news?
Well, here is a supposedly leaked list of all the English names of the Gen 5 pokemon. It's not a certainty, but there are matchups between this list and what names have been formally released already, so it's likely. Here is a list of those names matched with pictures and Japanese names. Black and White's animated sprites, for a considerable length of time difficult to find, have been compiled here for easy reference.

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But wait, I don't know anything about pokemon!
How the hell do you get off with an attitude like that? If you wish to learn, there are three sources:
Bulbapedia, which is pretty much exactly what it sounds like: a pokemon wikipedia. Craploads of information, and fairly user-friendly.
Serebii is another option, and probably a faster one for quick browsing of pokemon, but the guy who runs it seems really kinda weird and I don't think I like him.
Finally, Smogon.. This is a bad place. It is all about competitiveness and no fun, but in the interests of giving everyone access to information, I have included it. Just let it be known that if you make use of the dark secrets and cookie cutter strategies contained within, I will disapprove.
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Why would you disapprove?
Because pokemon is not about winning. It is about FIGHTING SPIRIT, a bond between man and animal that does not in any way resemble some kind of horrific violent slavery. Strong pokemon, weak pokemon- these are the flimsy perceptions of people. True pokemon masters try to win with their favorites.
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Is that it?
No. Now it is time to discuss
THE SE++ POKEMON LEAGUE CHALLENGE

Yes, that time has begun. We have a mere month until Black and White hit our glorious Western shores, where we have books go the right way round and our vending machines dispense only candy and canned beverages. It is time to stir the hype into a frenzy by opening Gym Leader Registration.

What do I need for Gym Leader Registration?
You need to PM me the following:
- The type your Gym will represent.
- A trainer sprite. This need not be a custom job: you can just, say, swipe Giovanni's sprite from HG/SS. If you're real lazy. Just let me know which trainer sprite you want to represent you.
- Your first six pokemon. According to our rules, laid down ages ago, a gym leader can pull any six pokemon of his type from a pool he or she has trained, without warning. These six pokemon are to be the ones you train first, and will be your first available team when the Pokemon League Challenge begins. If you want to host these on your own imagehost, it'd help, but it's not necessary.
- A badge. This is not mandatory, but it helps. Badges look cool. Don't be shy about asking if anyone wants to help you with a badge design; the kind of person who frequents our pokemon threads tends to be suspiciously kind and giving.
- Any other distinguishing information you want to include, like a battle theme.

This information will allow me to produce a stylish formal Gym Leader entry, like those you see below.

Hey, Dichbutt, someone took the gym I wanted! And there are more than eight gym leaders!
And this is a problem how? There can be more than one gym of each type. We can have more than eight gym leaders. Nothing is stopping us. If you want to lead a gym, don't let someone else getting there first stop you.

What if I want to make a themed team that isn't all one type?
You sicken me. But if you must play your deviant games, and want to make, say, a Grass/Fire Forest Fire team, the process will be similar: PM me your theme, a trainer sprite, and your six pokemon. However, if you do not use a monotyped team, you cannot offer a badge, and thus are not technically part of the League. But you're there. In the OP. Like the Fighting Dojo in Red/Blue. You remember, that lame place that wasn't really a gym.
SE++ POKEMON RULES

Yes, it is that time. These rules are not set in stone, and will likely be tweaked and modified by the month of Pokemon Online we will be playing before Black and White hit. If you want to change something here, be active, and demonstrate why it is or is not unreasonable: if you like these rules, continue to do nothing.

- Sleep clause is in effect.
- Species clause. Nobody needed to be told this, but now it's in text.
- No evo stone'd chansey, blissey, wynaut, wobbuffet, or garchomp. This rule is a holdover from last year's League, and new conditions in B/W may cause it to be overturned.
- No formal item clause. Yes, this will annoy the shit out of some of you. However, most of those that are annoyed are going to be veteran trainers. Many people we have battling don't really know what to do with pokemon, and so will probably end up putting Leftovers on most of their dudes. This is not a bad thing. They don't know any better. Item clause will not be strictly enforced, but if you're a skilled trainer taking advantage of it, you will be scorned and you will be looked down upon and nobody will want to battle you.
- We are going to try unbanning legendaries of base stat total 580 or below. Yes, I know there are legendaries of base stat total 600, and there are regular pokemon of base stat total 600. Still. All Gen IV and older legendaries- that is to say, pokemon that cannot breed, and not rotom because legendary music plays when you fight him don't pull that smartass shit with me- below 580 base stats are fair game. For now. In pokemon online. We may reverse this decision. We may reverse it very soon. We're just going to give it a shot. I'll probably regret it. We don't really know what gen 5's legendaries are capable of, so they're still banned. If you want to try them out, and make sure your opponent has ample permission, feel free. This is how we learn.
- Weather is, as of the moment, still acceptable. Drizzle politoed, drought ninetales, both fine. This may be subject to change. Monotype teams have a big problem dealing with weather if it's not their weather, and this may need to be addressed.
- Don't be a dick. This is, bar none, the most important rule. View every action you take through the lens of wondering if you are a dick. Are you a dick? Cut that shit out. This is a big league. We do not need you. If nobody wants to battle with you, nobody will battle with you.
Don't be a dick.


HOW TO POKEMON ONLINE
BY T4CT

Step 1: GO TO THIS LINK THING and download the client for your given operating system.

Step 2: When it boots up, don't click "Go Online" yet. First go to Team Builder and set up your trainer/team of six pokemon. Get familiar with the interface since it lets you set everything from EV's to moves to Hidden Power to natures...anything you would want to tweak, you can tweak.

Step 3: When your team is made, SAVE IT, and then exit out of Team Builder and click "Go Online"

Step 4: Our server is unlisted, so instead of using the server browser, use the text box at the bottom of the window and enter "198.166.226.193:5080" (no quotations). Click "Advanced Connection".

Step 5: Upon logging in, click "register" at the bottom to set a password so nobody else can use your trainer name on the server.

From this point on you can battle/spectate/chat in the client. To challenge someone, right click their name in the chat and hit "challenge"; set the clauses you want (Item, Sleep, Freeze, etc) and click challenge to ping them with a battle. If someone challenges you, it'll automatically pop up with the challenge. To spectate another battle, click the "Battles" tab in the main window and double click the battle you want to watch.

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    GYM LEADERS

    DICHOTOMY
    POISON
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    SPEED RACER
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    SIR FABULOUS
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    NOT GYM LEADERS AT ALL, BUT STILL WORTHY OF RECOGNITION


    GEORGE FORNBY GRILL
    FUCK YOU, BATTLE SOMEONE ELSE
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    EEVEELUTION GYM COMING SOON

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    T-T-T-T-TRIPLE OP

    might need this eventually?

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    hahahahahahahahahaha

    HA

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Beasteh wrote: »
    holy shit that was a fast rethread

    I don't fuck around with the pokemon thread

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    MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Melding League Challenge!

    What is this? It sounds dumb.
    Melding League is something i've rambled on about for a bit, so i am finally writing stuff down for it.
    It is my own gym league, with rules separate from the normal league. However, unless stated Melding league follows the same rules as the official league.

    So, it's just a way for you to stroke your own ego?

    Yes, but also to have a bunch of random teams and get to see them all int he same post. It is my own Circle Jerk.

    You mentioned the possibility of different rules, what might they be?

    For one, no stealth rock. I hate it, other people hate it, you might love it, but too bad. It's gone. all other entry hazards are go.

    You don't have to have a registered team! No one kept up with this anyway, i'm not even sure it's a rule anymore. Only thing is you can't just build a team to counter one of mine and then never use them again. That's just a dick move.

    No race clause or item clause. The second one isn't a rule either but is stated for clarification, and that in the event it does i don't have to edit this. You can have six dragonites with life orb. I don't care. but the theme rule here is don't be a dick. Showing up with 6 chanceys with left overs or whatever will get you a stern looking at.

    Well, what teams will you be using?

    That's the part i will be writing next. and will go here when i do that.

    Why would i even want to do this?

    I'm around a lot, and eventually I will have a lot of free time in the evenings so it gives us something to do.

    Also! Random prizes! from hard to get pokemon that i stumbled upon, to mazes, to objects i found in the trash bin! you will never know what you might get! Probably a maze. Everyone loved the maze i gave out last time.

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    unintentionalunintentional smelly Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I waited, dichotomy

    I was respectful

    you should ask munkus to delete their posts

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    ahahahahaha shoe i like you a lot more now

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    no but seriously I'll post 'em

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    NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2011
    dichot was nice enough to repost the thread almost immediately

    and you guys went and did this


    I am extremely disappointed, tact and kuribo

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    NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2011
    or should I say LACK OF TACT heh heh

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    shoe it would be more convenient for you to just delete the post I got everything ready to paste in right here

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    OpiumOpium regular
    edited February 2011
    Nerdgasmic wrote: »
    dichot was nice enough to repost the thread almost immediately

    and you guys went and did this


    I am extremely disappointed, tact and kuribo

    You could almost say it was a tactless move

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    unintentionalunintentional smelly Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    also, re: substitute
    I use it on breloom when I get a free turn because they're asleep and poison heal gives me all my HP back anyway
    I use it on primeape because I'm trying to game Anger Point

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I didn't read that he needed the extra posts

    I am ashamed of my behavior

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    BugBoyBugBoy boy.EXE has stopped functioning. only bugs remainRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    24 days, folks

    22 if you live in the land of tea and silly people

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    MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Huh! i actually got post five! yesssss!

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    there I helped

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    also, re: substitute
    I use it on breloom when I get a free turn because they're asleep and poison heal gives me all my HP back anyway
    I use it on primeape because I'm trying to game Anger Point

    okay sure

    but like there are a lot of other pokemon i was told to use it on

    like uh

    kecleon

    and im like

    man it will just get broken over and over and over and over and then i am out of hp

    whats the point

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    BeastehBeasteh THAT WOULD NOT KILL DRACULARegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    BugBoy wrote: »
    24 days, folks

    22 if you live in the land of tea and silly people

    woah what really

    huh that has crept up super fast

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I didn't read that he needed the extra posts

    I am ashamed of my behavior

    it's reasonable you were just excited to see a stunfisk-based title

    tact is just a butt though

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    unintentionalunintentional smelly Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    i'unno

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    is there something i am missing about substitute

    some trick

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    NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2011
    Arch wrote: »
    also, re: substitute
    I use it on breloom when I get a free turn because they're asleep and poison heal gives me all my HP back anyway
    I use it on primeape because I'm trying to game Anger Point

    okay sure

    but like there are a lot of other pokemon i was told to use it on

    like uh

    kecleon

    and im like

    man it will just get broken over and over and over and over and then i am out of hp

    whats the point
    substitute prevents focus punch from being interrupted

    RockinX gave me a subpunch tyranitar more than 2 years ago that is extremely baller

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    T4CTT4CT BAFTA-NOMINATED NAFTA-APPROVEDRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    i tried to delete it but someone else did it first

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    MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Who keeps deleting posts? I don't remember deleting my post.

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    unintentionalunintentional smelly Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    it's you

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    BugBoyBugBoy boy.EXE has stopped functioning. only bugs remainRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I remember when all we knew about these games was zoroark's shadow

    and now, the game is almost in our hands

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Nerdgasmic wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    also, re: substitute
    I use it on breloom when I get a free turn because they're asleep and poison heal gives me all my HP back anyway
    I use it on primeape because I'm trying to game Anger Point

    okay sure

    but like there are a lot of other pokemon i was told to use it on

    like uh

    kecleon

    and im like

    man it will just get broken over and over and over and over and then i am out of hp

    whats the point
    substitute prevents focus punch from being interrupted

    RockinX gave me a subpunch tyranitar more than 2 years ago that is extremely baller

    right but i just don't get that sequence

    USE SUBSTITUTE

    opponent uses any attack

    SUBSTITUTE BREAKS

    so then you spend hours setting up a substitute until they switch and then you focus punch?

    i dont get it

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    thank you, secret mod
    protector of the pokemon thread

    I will sacrifice a fat tauros to you upon the altar

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    NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2011
    also, just consider the economy of it

    something frail can easily use a single substitute to block a single attack that would have otherwise done far more than 25% of its HP

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    unintentionalunintentional smelly Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    you have to catch them by surprise with the first substitute, while they are using a status move or switching

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Nerdgasmic wrote: »
    also, just consider the economy of it

    something frail can easily use a single substitute to block a single attack that would have otherwise done far more than 25% of its HP

    yes but

    to what gain

    I SURVIVED THE FIRST OF YOUR KILLER MOVES

    AND AGAIN

    AND AGAIN

    AND AGAIN

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    NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2011
    Arch wrote: »
    Nerdgasmic wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    also, re: substitute
    I use it on breloom when I get a free turn because they're asleep and poison heal gives me all my HP back anyway
    I use it on primeape because I'm trying to game Anger Point

    okay sure

    but like there are a lot of other pokemon i was told to use it on

    like uh

    kecleon

    and im like

    man it will just get broken over and over and over and over and then i am out of hp

    whats the point
    substitute prevents focus punch from being interrupted

    RockinX gave me a subpunch tyranitar more than 2 years ago that is extremely baller

    right but i just don't get that sequence

    USE SUBSTITUTE

    opponent uses any attack

    SUBSTITUTE BREAKS

    so then you spend hours setting up a substitute until they switch and then you focus punch?

    i dont get it

    the charge of focus punch has priority, as long as the substitute lasts one turn it will work

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    MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    This thread is confusing me. I will be back in a while where i will be using my first post to make up rules for melding league.

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    MaceraMacera UGH GODDAMMIT STOP ENJOYING THINGSRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    stunfisk is also great

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    i guess i just need to see it used well in a battle and not against the AI

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    BugBoyBugBoy boy.EXE has stopped functioning. only bugs remainRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    is anyone but me choosing tepig

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    FrankoFranko Sometimes I really wish I had four feet so I could dance with myself to the drumbeat Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    how come theres like so many dark gyms and they all got blade guy in it

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    ChenChen Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    who is stunfisk

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    BugBoy wrote: »
    is anyone but me choosing tepig

    i was considering it

    my fiancee is going to when she picks up the game

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