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[Mass Effect] Xenos gone wild

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  • DarkCrawlerDarkCrawler Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w097Q0fZE-A

    Put this on the speakers and I'm ready to volunteer for a Mars mission like right away.

    Seriously how awesome was that scene? As great as ME2 was, there wasn't really a moment where I stopped thinking and simply watched stuff unfold like with that.

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  • DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    zerg rush wrote: »
    Synthesis wrote: »
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    Tamin wrote: »
    Also, something I'm unclear on
    is Harbinger supposed to be a Prothean Reaper?

    At the end, when it was saying "We'll find another way", something in the way the hologram moved gave that impression

    Probably not.
    Protheans supposedly don't have what it takes to be reapers.
    chalk it up to speciest attitudes, but after a while, they all start to look like cuttlefish...
    "My God! It's a Cephalopod Reaper!"

    But yes, some quality of the Protheans (on the genetic level?) made them poorly suited to be Reapers. Or maybe there just weren't enough of them to efficiently harvest over area. I suspect they're not the only ones either, but we will see, perhaps...
    On the other hand, the Protheans have shown themselves as a species who could fuck up reaper plans. They shut down the Citadel relay and they built their own mass relay. If not for them, Mass Effect 1 would have been the story of all life getting devoured while Shepard was chilling on the Normandy.

    It's not inconceivable that they could have made their own species unsuitable for constructing a reaper. Or marked themselves as unsuitable in some other way by blowing up their own nascent reaper (like Shepard did to humanity's). Reapers corrupted them as a pathetic consolation prize.

    I doubt that
    Protheans made themselves incompatable. The Reaper compatability seems like a crapshoot (seems like most of the modern races wouldn't work, for various reasons), and, since the Protheans were the only major spacefaring race during that harvest cycle, if they turned out to be a dud, then the Reapers would've gone home empty-handed, but for tinkering with the remaining Protheans to create the Collectors. Then they left a middle manager, Harbinger, where he could go around testing the new races for compatability so they don't get screwed again by the poor selection.

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  • JazzJazz Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Three pages (including last thread) of Clint Mansell talk and no mention of his pre-movie triumphs with Pop Will Eat Itself? *waggles finger at thread disapprovingly*

    I'd be more concerned about losing Jack Wall's brilliance if the ME2 DLC scores had felt out of place, but they gelled perfectly and he didn't do those. Wall & Sam Hulick's ME1 remains - by some margin - my favorite video game score of all time, and his contributions to the atmosphere of the ME universe have been colossal, but I'm willing to give Mansell a shot. He doesn't tend to be crap.

    If it turns out to be a collaboration, well, that'd be even better.

    Also, quads. Immune systems. Thermal clips. Batarian slaughter. Etc.

    Jazz on
  • DarkCrawlerDarkCrawler Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    zerg rush wrote: »
    Synthesis wrote: »
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    Tamin wrote: »
    Also, something I'm unclear on
    is Harbinger supposed to be a Prothean Reaper?

    At the end, when it was saying "We'll find another way", something in the way the hologram moved gave that impression

    Probably not.
    Protheans supposedly don't have what it takes to be reapers.
    chalk it up to speciest attitudes, but after a while, they all start to look like cuttlefish...
    "My God! It's a Cephalopod Reaper!"

    But yes, some quality of the Protheans (on the genetic level?) made them poorly suited to be Reapers. Or maybe there just weren't enough of them to efficiently harvest over area. I suspect they're not the only ones either, but we will see, perhaps...
    On the other hand, the Protheans have shown themselves as a species who could fuck up reaper plans. They shut down the Citadel relay and they built their own mass relay. If not for them, Mass Effect 1 would have been the story of all life getting devoured while Shepard was chilling on the Normandy.

    It's not inconceivable that they could have made their own species unsuitable for constructing a reaper. Or marked themselves as unsuitable in some other way by blowing up their own nascent reaper (like Shepard did to humanity's). Reapers corrupted them as a pathetic consolation prize.

    I doubt that
    Protheans made themselves incompatable. The Reaper compatability seems like a crapshoot (seems like most of the modern races wouldn't work, for various reasons), and, since the Protheans were the only major spacefaring race during that harvest cycle, if they turned out to be a dud, then the Reapers would've gone home empty-handed, but for tinkering with the remaining Protheans to create the Collectors. Then they left a middle manager, Harbinger, where he could go around testing the new races for compatability so they don't get screwed again by the poor selection.

    You'd think they would realize that after having done it for hundred times...I'm sure that Protheans were not the only incompatible ones.

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  • DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I doubt that
    Protheans made themselves incompatable. The Reaper compatability seems like a crapshoot (seems like most of the modern races wouldn't work, for various reasons), and, since the Protheans were the only major spacefaring race during that harvest cycle, if they turned out to be a dud, then the Reapers would've gone home empty-handed, but for tinkering with the remaining Protheans to create the Collectors. Then they left a middle manager, Harbinger, where he could go around testing the new races for compatability so they don't get screwed again by the poor selection.

    You'd think they would realize that after having done it for hundred times...I'm sure that Protheans were not the only incompatible ones.

    Maybe they've had "off" cycles before, and did the same thing as they did to the Protheans to the races that didn't work. I imagine that that fate is hell on long-term survivability; maybe those other races are gone or in cold storage somewhere now.

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  • IceyIcey Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w097Q0fZE-A

    Put this on the speakers and I'm ready to volunteer for a Mars mission like right away.

    Seriously how awesome was that scene? As great as ME2 was, there wasn't really a moment where I stopped thinking and simply watched stuff unfold like with that.

    Well, reinstalling Mass Effect....

    Icey on
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  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Clint Mansell? are you fucking serious? me3 just got fucked up, the music continuity across all 3 games is now gone, its like if John Williams only scored a new hope and empire strikes back, and then Duran Duran scored return of the jedi.

    Its like that dragon age trailer with Marlin Mansons "this is the new shit" except for the entire fucking game.

    Why not keep Jack Wall and Sam Hulick, and the others who worked in me1 and 2 soundtracks to keep a sense of musical continuity?

    edit: hmm i should check my facts, for some reason i thought this was the same guy who did the title music for doom 3.. i was wrong, still its not going to feel right.

    Clint Mansell is amazing:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihF_aXi-Huk

    yes, but doesn't really fit with the sound style of mass effect.

    now if they had said they got vangelis on board....

    also pretty sure they had the same few composers from me1 on me2.

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  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I doubt that
    Protheans made themselves incompatable. The Reaper compatability seems like a crapshoot (seems like most of the modern races wouldn't work, for various reasons), and, since the Protheans were the only major spacefaring race during that harvest cycle, if they turned out to be a dud, then the Reapers would've gone home empty-handed, but for tinkering with the remaining Protheans to create the Collectors. Then they left a middle manager, Harbinger, where he could go around testing the new races for compatability so they don't get screwed again by the poor selection.

    You'd think they would realize that after having done it for hundred times...I'm sure that Protheans were not the only incompatible ones.

    Maybe they've had "off" cycles before, and did the same thing as they did to the Protheans to the races that didn't work. I imagine that that fate is hell on long-term survivability; maybe those other races are gone or in cold storage somewhere now.

    i like to think that
    harbinger is the prothean reaper, edi was wrong and the collectors are just the left overs bits, and they do this with each cycle, like after making the human reaper the left overs would be the new collectors for the next cycle and look like husks.

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  • Torso BoyTorso Boy Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Hey all, just wanted to say that BioWare's choice of Clint Mansell for ME3 is a great one, I'm sure he'll do a fantastic job and I'm excited to hear his treatment of the Mass Effect themes! To answer a couple questions on Twitter: no, I will not be contributing in any way, unfortunately, and I'm ok with that. :)

    So there's that.

    Also, the opening to Vigil is my favourite piece of music from the entire series and the one that is absolutely mandatory in each game.

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  • HalibutHalibut Passion Fish Swimming in obscurity.Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    So, I guess I won't be posting here due to spoilers, but I just wanted to pop in and say that this game is pretty awesome (ME1). Bought it on Steam a couple nights ago, and within a couple of hours I'm completely sucked into the universe.

    So far aliens >>>> humans (even though I've barely seen any combat with my alien posse yet).

    Combat seems okay, with some of the supporting cast basically useless. Shooting feels meh, but the fiction/universe is more than enough to make me want to keep playing.

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  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Man.

    Playing Mass Effect the first time. So young and innocent. I can hardly remember these days.

    Good game. Good times.

    I trust you picked HaleShep?

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  • JazzJazz Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Halibut wrote: »
    So, I guess I won't be posting here due to spoilers, but I just wanted to pop in and say that this game is pretty awesome (ME1). Bought it on Steam a couple nights ago, and within a couple of hours I'm completely sucked into the universe.

    So far aliens >>>> humans (even though I've barely seen any combat with my alien posse yet).

    Combat seems okay, with some of the supporting cast basically useless. Shooting feels meh, but the fiction/universe is more than enough to make me want to keep playing.

    It only gets better. :)

    Come back and see us when you're done.

    Jazz on
  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Jazz wrote: »
    Halibut wrote: »
    So, I guess I won't be posting here due to spoilers, but I just wanted to pop in and say that this game is pretty awesome (ME1). Bought it on Steam a couple nights ago, and within a couple of hours I'm completely sucked into the universe.

    So far aliens >>>> humans (even though I've barely seen any combat with my alien posse yet).

    Combat seems okay, with some of the supporting cast basically useless. Shooting feels meh, but the fiction/universe is more than enough to make me want to keep playing.

    It only gets better. :)

    Come back and see us when you're done.

    This too.

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  • Dox the PIDox the PI Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I'm not mad...

    I just thought that Jack Wall and such did a good job too.

    But who knows, maybe it's for the better.

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  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Wait.

    Mansell did Moon?

    Hot. Buttered. Damn.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    Wait.

    Mansell did Moon?

    Hot. Buttered. Damn.

    Exactly. All these reports seem to omit this somewhat important piece of evidence, which thankfully posters here are being kind enough to fill in. Moon had exceptional music. This is no crime.

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  • DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
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  • curly haired boycurly haired boy Your Friendly Neighborhood Torgue Dealer Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    i think it's more of the usual uncertainty that gamers get whenever big name hollywood industry guy X decides to involve himself in videogames.

    it usually doesn't turn out well, because they expect to 'make the universe their own' and such.

    not saying that's going to happen here, but stuff like the Uncharted movie just makes me distrust hollywood all the more.

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  • DHSDHS Chase lizards.. ...bark at donkeys..Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    It'll be great I'm sure, I just hope they keep the iconic themes, like the Galaxy Map and Ilos and the Suicide Mission.

    DHS on
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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    i think it's more of the usual uncertainty that gamers get whenever big name hollywood industry guy X decides to involve himself in videogames.

    it usually doesn't turn out well, because they expect to 'make the universe their own' and such.

    not saying that's going to happen here, but stuff like the Uncharted movie just makes me distrust hollywood all the more.

    Mansell seems like a pretty solid guy though. Apparently Duncan Jones couldn't meet his fee for Moon, so he agreed to do it for less (although I can't find the source for this). Basically, he seems more likely to take a job that interests him rather than one that just pays well.

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  • WassermeloneWassermelone Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Suicide mission probably won't show up considering it was the theme for a specific mission unique to Mass Effect 2

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  • DHSDHS Chase lizards.. ...bark at donkeys..Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Suicide mission probably won't show up considering it was the theme for a specific mission unique to Mass Effect 2

    True, but it's really badass and I can hope.

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  • Dox the PIDox the PI Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    i think it's more of the usual uncertainty that gamers get whenever big name hollywood industry guy X decides to involve himself in videogames.

    it usually doesn't turn out well, because they expect to 'make the universe their own' and such.

    not saying that's going to happen here, but stuff like the Uncharted movie just makes me distrust hollywood all the more.

    Composers have a better track record then others

    The best thing out of the box in MW2 was Zimmers score

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  • Ad astraAd astra Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Clint Mansell is fantastic, and I'm excited to see what he does with Mass Effect, however, I hope he doesn't touch Spectre induction, and Vigil. Those two are perfect the way they are, and to me are synonymous with the ME series.



    Also, bring back the Founts! There absence in ME2 was terrible.

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  • LuqLuq Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    That Mansell bit from Pi was a near exact match for one of the tracks on System Shock 2. I'm guessing the SS2 composer was a fan.

    For comparison:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtdQ5roMuEA

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  • curly haired boycurly haired boy Your Friendly Neighborhood Torgue Dealer Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Dox the PI wrote: »
    i think it's more of the usual uncertainty that gamers get whenever big name hollywood industry guy X decides to involve himself in videogames.

    it usually doesn't turn out well, because they expect to 'make the universe their own' and such.

    not saying that's going to happen here, but stuff like the Uncharted movie just makes me distrust hollywood all the more.

    Composers have a better track record then others

    The best thing out of the box in MW2 was Zimmers score

    yeah but zimmer stuff is exactly not what i want for ME3

    i guess my doubts are about whether the music is going to sound mass-effecty enough

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  • Ad astraAd astra Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Dox the PI wrote: »
    i think it's more of the usual uncertainty that gamers get whenever big name hollywood industry guy X decides to involve himself in videogames.

    it usually doesn't turn out well, because they expect to 'make the universe their own' and such.

    not saying that's going to happen here, but stuff like the Uncharted movie just makes me distrust hollywood all the more.

    Composers have a better track record then others

    The best thing out of the box in MW2 was Zimmers score

    yeah but zimmer stuff is exactly not what i want for ME3

    i guess my doubts are about whether the music is going to sound mass-effecty enough

    I'm a little concerned about that as well. Clint Mansell does great work, but I'm hoping it doesn't lose any of the synth elements.

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  • BobbleBobble Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    The most important question anyone could possibly ask Clint Mansell is what he thinks of Batarians. The man needs to properly clarify his stance on the Batarian Threat before we (as fanatics) welcome him to this world.

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    You know, I can't even remember any of the musical themes in ME2 other than suicide mission, so I'm having trouble caring about the change in composer

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  • Ad astraAd astra Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Spoit wrote: »
    You know, I can't even remember any of the musical themes in ME2 other than suicide mission, so I'm having trouble caring about the change in composer

    That is true, ME1 had Spectre induction, it had the Main theme, it had Sovereigns theme, it had the Virmire theme, and it had Vigil. In terms of stand out tracks, ME2 really only had Suicide mission.

    I'm hoping Clint Mansell takes it back to a more distinctive synth/orchestral, and not just full orchestra.

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  • Evil WeevilEvil Weevil Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Ad astra wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    You know, I can't even remember any of the musical themes in ME2 other than suicide mission, so I'm having trouble caring about the change in composer

    That is true, ME1 had Spectre induction, it had the Main theme, it had Sovereigns theme, it had the Virmire theme, and it had Vigil. In terms of stand out tracks, ME2 really only had Suicide mission.

    I'm hoping Clint Mansell takes it back to a more distinctive synth/orchestral, and not just full orchestra.

    The nightclub theme (first one) in Omega, Tali's theme, the Illusive Man's theme, Suicide Mission and the romance theme all stood out for me and I can remember them happily.

    Oh, and all of the themes in Kasumi's mission and junk.

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  • Ad astraAd astra Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Ad astra wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    You know, I can't even remember any of the musical themes in ME2 other than suicide mission, so I'm having trouble caring about the change in composer

    That is true, ME1 had Spectre induction, it had the Main theme, it had Sovereigns theme, it had the Virmire theme, and it had Vigil. In terms of stand out tracks, ME2 really only had Suicide mission.

    I'm hoping Clint Mansell takes it back to a more distinctive synth/orchestral, and not just full orchestra.

    The nightclub theme (first one) in Omega, Tali's theme, the Illusive Man's theme,
    Suicide Mission and the romance theme all stood out for me and I can remember them happily.

    Oh, and all of the themes in Kasumi's mission and junk.

    Listening to them again, those are all good themes, but they just don't stick in my mind like the ones from ME1. Maybe it's just because it has been a while since I played ME2.

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  • DarkCrawlerDarkCrawler Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Yeah, how can you people not remember Illusive Man's theme? He was not awesome enough to deserve that music.

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  • FairchildFairchild Rabbit used short words that were easy to understand, like "Hello Pooh, how about Lunch ?" Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w097Q0fZE-A

    Put this on the speakers and I'm ready to volunteer for a Mars mission like right away.

    Seriously how awesome was that scene? As great as ME2 was, there wasn't really a moment where I stopped thinking and simply watched stuff unfold like with that.
    Dang, I still get chills listening to that piece of music.

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  • Ad astraAd astra Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Fairchild wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w097Q0fZE-A

    Put this on the speakers and I'm ready to volunteer for a Mars mission like right away.

    Seriously how awesome was that scene? As great as ME2 was, there wasn't really a moment where I stopped thinking and simply watched stuff unfold like with that.
    Dang, I still get chills listening to that piece of music.

    Yes, yes, yes. This is memorable music, the way it combined with Vigil telling you about the fate of the Protheans was awe inspiring.

    That's one of my Problems with ME2, there are no Vigil moments, there are no moments that make me go "Whoa."

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    ...I don't know...Suicide Mission got me super hyped.

    And Normandy Reborn.

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  • Evil WeevilEvil Weevil Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    ...I don't know...Suicide Mission got me super hyped.

    And Normandy Reborn.

    Oh yeah, Normandy Reborn is another of the greats.

    Plenty of memorable themes from ME2.

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  • jefe414jefe414 "My Other Drill Hole is a Teleporter" Mechagodzilla is Best GodzillaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Wait, so when I listened to the ME1 sound track, isn't Vigil's song the same as the song when you first turn on ME1 and hit the title screen?

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  • Ad astraAd astra Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    jefe414 wrote: »
    Wait, so when I listened to the ME1 sound track, isn't Vigil's song the same as the song when you first turn on ME1 and hit the title screen?

    Yes it is.

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