I don't see how people can go without owning a suit for at least occaisional formal outings. Nor do I understand the pushback on wanting people to leave t-shirts and jeans behind for a single evening.
When I asked my buddy if he was ok with attending Will's event his answer was "well, so we obviously have to take suits with us. Should be fun."
Now they'll have two pudgy, middle aged Germans in cheap business suit at their table. What could go wrong? :P
Liam Neeson shows up shoots one of you threatens the other with unspeakable bodily harm?
If he tried that on me, I'd be all "Let me go or I'll tell everyone you're from Ballymena!"
Dude Will people are flying across the country for this and sometimes it's just not practical to neatly fold and shove in a nice suit with and extra pair of nice shoes
I know if I was able to go I would be taking the bus and I would want to pack as lightly as possible
Solution: wear suit on plane, only pack coathanger.
This is not difficult stuff.
I will not spend a nine hour plane ride in a suit (the only suit I'm taking)!
Dude Will people are flying across the country for this and sometimes it's just not practical to neatly fold and shove in a nice suit with and extra pair of nice shoes
I know if I was able to go I would be taking the bus and I would want to pack as lightly as possible
Bah you're a woman you can wear a house dress and be in "formal".
nah you need heels too
stabby, uncomfortable, weapons-grade heels
True, but in that case they also double as dangerous throwing weapons, so it kind of evens out.
Yeah, just remembered I had this way in the back of the closet. Also, a tuxedo jacket. And a white suit with dark orange vest and dark red tie.
echo that is too bright
you're gonna look like that elvis impersonator you have over there
@jacob: gonna work on your retainer today, did you have anything particular you wanted out of her?
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I'd be more annoyed that someone told me how to dress and that I had to limit myself to a suit.
this is mostly what i'm running into here i think
by asking people to dress a certain way, it's squelching their unique identity
only it's being masqueraded as a lot of other bullshit
A lot of what you are running into is not that
Your policy seems to ignore legitimate views as an outlier and keep ranting about the other crap you have to deal with. Which I would say is reasonable except you should probably take more care to differentiate between "yeah I don't own nice clothes and I do actually check out thrift stores" and cat ears, naruto tees, and action figures
is the legitimate view you're putting forward that someone could reasonably not be able to find a jacket and tie at a thrift store? is this what you are saying is a reasonable position?
i mean, i know that arch is extremely short and has various other problems with finding clothes that fit, so i can understand in his case how he might not be able to find something that fits him
but for the vast majority of people, not only is it possible to find semi-formal (what used to be called "casual") clothes at reasonable prices, but it's the sort of thing that people should have a set or two of anyways in case they ever need to go on a date, or to a funeral, or to a wedding, or to a church service or something.
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First page of GIS for "sport coat": nothing but hideousness.
Jesus, yeah it is, what the fuck.
More like this:
Displaying my clothing ignorance, but this does not strike me as something one would wear while engaging in sport.
Technically it's more like a blazer, but the distinction is fuzzy. You would not wear it while playing soccer but a true sport coat is less formal. You might throw it on over a light sweater then go out hunting with your servants.
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edited February 2011
hah jeez if I were on the bus too I would not spend it in business clothes wearing my 'going out' shoes
there be lots of walking to be done mang
mind you everyone who's met me should know that I am in no way opposed to dressing up. I like to dress up on days just for the hell of it! I just don't find your level of disdain appealing, Will :?
Dude Will people are flying across the country for this and sometimes it's just not practical to neatly fold and shove in a nice suit with and extra pair of nice shoes
I know if I was able to go I would be taking the bus and I would want to pack as lightly as possible
Solution: wear suit on plane, only pack coathanger.
This is not difficult stuff.
I will not spend a nine hour plane ride in a suit (the only suit I'm taking)!
I would sympathise but all I'm hearing is whinge whinge whinge.
Take off jacket during flight - put in lap/hang up somewhere/put in overhead locker things.
Jesus fuck.
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guys Will is the voice for middle america usually
this isn't a new phenomenon
i'd be incredibly fascinated to hear what you know about middle america
generally repeated truisms that really have no identifiable origin but are constantly mimicked by straight culture and straight people over and over and over until they are driven insane
so basically nothing, then?
what is there to say?
you could just not talk about things you are intensely ignorant of
I realize this is a challenging and terrifying concept
guys Will is the voice for middle america usually
this isn't a new phenomenon
i'd be incredibly fascinated to hear what you know about middle america
generally repeated truisms that really have no identifiable origin but are constantly mimicked by straight culture and straight people over and over and over until they are driven insane
so basically nothing, then?
what is there to say?
you could just not talk about things you are intensely ignorant of
I realize this is a challenging and terrifying concept
never stopped me
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edited February 2011
In something unrelated, I really do hate flying. Planes were not made for tall people.
My problem with what you're saying, Will, is that I don't know what benchmarks you're settingm so I can't tell whether I agree or disagree with you. Could you post some pictures of what you consider acceptable and unacceptable? And maybe what exactly you consider to be business casual, too.
I wish I could have actually spent some time in Chicago proper.
The view from the [strike]Sears[/strike] Willis Tower was bitching though.
There's a Sears store elsewhere in the city that has a two story tower that we want to take pictures at and then tell everyone we went to the Sears Tower.
Dude Will people are flying across the country for this and sometimes it's just not practical to neatly fold and shove in a nice suit with and extra pair of nice shoes
I know if I was able to go I would be taking the bus and I would want to pack as lightly as possible
Solution: wear suit on plane, only pack coathanger.
This is not difficult stuff.
I will not spend a nine hour plane ride in a suit (the only suit I'm taking)!
I would sympathise but all I'm hearing is whinge whinge whinge.
Take off jacket during flight - put in lap/hang up somewhere/put in overhead locker things.
Jesus fuck.
But why would I do that when I can neatly put my entire suit in my giant-ass suitcase? Suitcase!
Though I have to admit, you can really not take much with you on intercontinental flights.
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Dude Will people are flying across the country for this and sometimes it's just not practical to neatly fold and shove in a nice suit with and extra pair of nice shoes
I know if I was able to go I would be taking the bus and I would want to pack as lightly as possible
Bah you're a woman you can wear a house dress and be in "formal".
Dude Will people are flying across the country for this and sometimes it's just not practical to neatly fold and shove in a nice suit with and extra pair of nice shoes
I know if I was able to go I would be taking the bus and I would want to pack as lightly as possible
i understand and have relayed that it's not going to be practical for everyone to bring a suit. i'm sympathetic to the argument and just ask people to dress as nicely as they possibly can. i have the feeling that a lot of people don't really know what that means, which is why i'm kind of reluctant to say "business casual" - because business casual isn't appropriate to wear out to a reasonably-nice restaurant.
i don't think that "i'm too poor" is a reasonable excuse for not owning a jacket and tie. that shit is cheap and you need it anyways unless you live in a commune.
Yeah, I think this is the crux of the problem. If people don't have experience dressing for a nice restaurant, it's probably best just to tell them to wear a suit or jacket and tie. This is especially a problem when you're dealing with any group that has higher-than-average neckbeard potential. You want to minimize the risk of them getting "creative."
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Dude Will people are flying across the country for this and sometimes it's just not practical to neatly fold and shove in a nice suit with and extra pair of nice shoes
I know if I was able to go I would be taking the bus and I would want to pack as lightly as possible
Bah you're a woman you can wear a house dress and be in "formal".
nah you need heels too
stabby, uncomfortable, weapons-grade heels
you can wear flats
no will
no you cannot
ask frankie
she will murder you with a glance for that suggestion
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If he tried that on me, I'd be all "Let me go or I'll tell everyone you're from Ballymena!"
It's the other way. It's what sportsmen wear when they're trying to be smart.
I will not spend a nine hour plane ride in a suit (the only suit I'm taking)!
True, but in that case they also double as dangerous throwing weapons, so it kind of evens out.
Will is The Man in hipster-chic clothing.
Hunting, polo, peasant-whipping, etc.
echo that is too bright
you're gonna look like that elvis impersonator you have over there
@jacob: gonna work on your retainer today, did you have anything particular you wanted out of her?
is the legitimate view you're putting forward that someone could reasonably not be able to find a jacket and tie at a thrift store? is this what you are saying is a reasonable position?
i mean, i know that arch is extremely short and has various other problems with finding clothes that fit, so i can understand in his case how he might not be able to find something that fits him
but for the vast majority of people, not only is it possible to find semi-formal (what used to be called "casual") clothes at reasonable prices, but it's the sort of thing that people should have a set or two of anyways in case they ever need to go on a date, or to a funeral, or to a wedding, or to a church service or something.
Technically it's more like a blazer, but the distinction is fuzzy. You would not wear it while playing soccer but a true sport coat is less formal. You might throw it on over a light sweater then go out hunting with your servants.
there be lots of walking to be done mang
mind you everyone who's met me should know that I am in no way opposed to dressing up. I like to dress up on days just for the hell of it! I just don't find your level of disdain appealing, Will :?
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i don't think i've ever lived in middle america
i visited chicago once
does that count?
(chicago is fat and dresses poorly)
I would sympathise but all I'm hearing is whinge whinge whinge.
Take off jacket during flight - put in lap/hang up somewhere/put in overhead locker things.
Jesus fuck.
i am a whole-body appeal to irrational fucking, y'see
goddamit
you could just not talk about things you are intensely ignorant of
I realize this is a challenging and terrifying concept
The view from the [strike]Sears[/strike] Willis Tower was bitching though.
never stopped me
advantage: arch
although flying coach for six hours or so was no fun for me either
There's a Sears store elsewhere in the city that has a two story tower that we want to take pictures at and then tell everyone we went to the Sears Tower.
Flying steerage is the worst.
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i've seen some patch or madras-like jackets like that around.
a little to fashiony for my personal tastes, but i would be fine if someone wanted to wear something like that to dinner.
when I went to england, I got up midflight to use the washroom and fell over in the aisle my legs were so numb
Man, what an old picture. I did like that tie, though. Siiiigh.
But why would I do that when I can neatly put my entire suit in my giant-ass suitcase? Suitcase!
Though I have to admit, you can really not take much with you on intercontinental flights.
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no you cannot
ask frankie
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i am maybe 25% hipster
mostly i dress pretty sharply, but definitely not like those skinny jeans or strange working-class appropriations that hipsters like to sport.