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Car insurance or out of pocket?

wallabeeXwallabeeX Registered User regular
edited February 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
So, I live on a narrow street in a very hilly part of Los Angeles. I have a private driveway, which is great, but it's on a very blind corner, which isn't great. Backing out of the driveway is a daily crapshoot while you wait for some asshole to come around the corner faster than he should. Someone in the past installed one of those rounded mirrors to help with the problem but it's only so great.

To make matters worse, my neighbor parks opposite our driveway, so when I back out to go up the hill, facing the corner, his car's position is such that I can't immediately get onto the correct side of the road. Leaving my facing the wrong direction at a complete stop, waiting for prior mentioned asshole to hit me.

The other night in the midst of a flu I left to grab some takeout and had this exact situation, at night. Where my neighbor was parked fell deeply behind the fear of getting hit and I backed up too far and cracked his bumper, trashed his turn signal, and dented his fender on his 2001 Volvo. He was very nice about it and went and got an estimate to the tune of $1400 and is fine with me paying out of pocket. I have the money - it sucks but it wouldn't kill me.

With one at-fault and one not-at-fault on my record already with Progressive, does anyone have any advice? Can I flat out ask an insurance agent on the phone what my increase will be without them noting it on my account and increasing my rates? For shits I ran a quote on esurance with my current record and they gave me the same rate Progressive currently gives me, and adding the new accident nearly doubles my rate. Again, with esurance. At $170 / month increase, over the next 5 years, this is a no brainer, but I'd love some real math. Any tips?

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Insurance. Why? Because in 3 months he may sue you for more than that because of unforeseen damages on his car. Not sure how well a signed/typed document would fare in small claims court if he tried to sue you for more, considering that's what insurance is for pretty much.

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  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    What's your deductible?

    You're almost certainly going to be better off just paying this out of pocket.

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  • wallabeeXwallabeeX Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    My deductible is $500.

    There are and will be no unforeseen damages to his car. I know cars very well, to the degree that I knew the estimate before he got it done. This is a very very minor amount of damage, and were it not for the minor crack in the bumper, it'd be a $500 problem.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Maybe there's some other problem in his car, can't prove you didn't do it, the insurance company is there for your protection. You can swear up and down you're a car expert, but because you didn't file a police report or an insurance report suddenly you backed into them. Oh you paid them already? Well you said you'd pay for more.

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    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Yeah, if it's minor like that, paying out of pocket is the way to go - the increase in your insurance payments are going to be much more than the cost of the repairs, over time. Just make sure you get pictures of the damage and have the car inspected by someone yourself, so if he tries to claim other damages later on you can point to your inspection papers and call bullshit.

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  • witch_iewitch_ie Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    You could always call your insurance company and without providing your information, ask them what their policy is on rate increases due to pay-outs. They may or may not tell you.

    If you choose to pay out of pocket, ask your neighbor to sign documentation that all repairs have been made resulting from this incident.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    witch_ie wrote: »
    You could always call your insurance company and without providing your information, ask them what their policy is on rate increases due to pay-outs. They may or may not tell you.

    If you choose to pay out of pocket, ask your neighbor to sign documentation that all repairs have been made resulting from this incident.

    At least be safe if you do it that way.

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  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    bowen wrote: »
    witch_ie wrote: »
    You could always call your insurance company and without providing your information, ask them what their policy is on rate increases due to pay-outs. They may or may not tell you.

    If you choose to pay out of pocket, ask your neighbor to sign documentation that all repairs have been made resulting from this incident.

    At least be safe if you do it that way.

    Absolutely.

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  • wallabeeXwallabeeX Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Yeah, fair enough.

    Bowen, appreciate your input. I've met and talked with this neighbor and while I know people have and can take advantage of these situations, neither of us have any reason for this to escalate. He's a 60yr old architect who isn't looking for anything more than his car to be back to what it was.

    Pictures were taken, enough e-mails were sent and received to show my guilt and confirm the total damage to the car, and in short I don't believe I'll be filing an insurance claim because I'm afraid he'll sue me. I will say that getting a written note stating all damages were taken care of is a great idea that I will do. If I do file insurance, at all, it's because the total cost through insurance would be $2000 over 5 years instead of the $1400 immediately

    Sounding more and more like what I already suspected. Pay it out and chalk it up to a dumb mistake. Going to go down to the body shop (that I recommended and he used) this weekend to see if they can get the number down lower since it's out of pocket instead of through insurance.

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  • MushroomStickMushroomStick Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Pay out of pocket. Maybe look into having him sign a liability release to keep him from going after you for more later.

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