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It could be better: PS3 Changes Wishlist
Deusfaux
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Is there a good collection of people's gripes on the internet about the PS3 - more specifically the firmware and hardware/ PSN ecosystem? I remember reading and contributing to a equivalent list for the 360. Maybe we can start one here, or clear up misconceptions about non-issues.
I finally got to really get into the nitty gritty with a unit and had some questions / concerns. Keep in mind I've been using the 360 for a good while now:
#1. Can you NOT browse the store items by rating / release date / anything other than Alphabetically Down or Sony created "~20 recent releases"?
This is absurd and I can't believe it's been this way since 2006.
#2. Equally bad - can you NOT browse your list of installed games / demos ALPHABETICALLY?! All I get are Creation Date and the (doesnt' do anything for me) Format options.
How did they manage to swap these sorting options? iPods have had better sorting for years.
#3. Is there no way to prevent someone from playing on your profile ("user") and thus accumulating trophies or using your saves or doing whatever else?
No passcodes like the 360? I understand you can lock out the PSN - but that's ONLY preventing purchases and online play. Not everything.
#4. The official PS3 remote - I didn't realize it at the time, but because it's bluetooth - no chance of controlling the TV as well, which means I STILL have to use 2 remotes - unlike the 360's official remote which is all-in-one.
#5. Separate downloading and installing is awful. Not being able to do anything whilst a game installs (even a small demo) is even worse.
#6. Lack of detailed download management like the 360. I want to be able to rearrange download order on the fly, any item to any position.
#7. The store organization seems kinda terrible in general. Arriving at a title via one category (ie, Demos), there is no link to show you the other items for that title. I think only if you navigate a very specific way will you see all downloads related to a title.
#8. Extra button presses to start a title downloading and then into the background is annoying. Who wouldn't want background downloading? "No thanks, I'll just stay here on the store page and watch it download, and then manually navigate out back to the XMB to play it." Automatic background download and continue shopping, please.
#9. Filter out the PSP content in the PS Store by option, please.
Balance: What I do love is the detailed and more finnicky series of options with a lot of the stuff in the menus - triangle button stuff and such. It's just organized poorly.
SEARCH in the store is a great idea - 360 should have this.
QUESTION: I'm under the impression that since I have 720p and 1080i checked off in the settings, the 360 spits out EVERYTHING at 1080i (the highest one I checked...), but I'm hearing something about how the PS3, with multiple options checked, will spit out either 720p or 1080i, depending on source material? ie, all blu-rays at 1080i, but games are back and forth...?
I finally got to really get into the nitty gritty with a unit and had some questions / concerns. Keep in mind I've been using the 360 for a good while now:
#1. Can you NOT browse the store items by rating / release date / anything other than Alphabetically Down or Sony created "~20 recent releases"?
This is absurd and I can't believe it's been this way since 2006.
#2. Equally bad - can you NOT browse your list of installed games / demos ALPHABETICALLY?! All I get are Creation Date and the (doesnt' do anything for me) Format options.
How did they manage to swap these sorting options? iPods have had better sorting for years.
#3. Is there no way to prevent someone from playing on your profile ("user") and thus accumulating trophies or using your saves or doing whatever else?
No passcodes like the 360? I understand you can lock out the PSN - but that's ONLY preventing purchases and online play. Not everything.
#4. The official PS3 remote - I didn't realize it at the time, but because it's bluetooth - no chance of controlling the TV as well, which means I STILL have to use 2 remotes - unlike the 360's official remote which is all-in-one.
#5. Separate downloading and installing is awful. Not being able to do anything whilst a game installs (even a small demo) is even worse.
#6. Lack of detailed download management like the 360. I want to be able to rearrange download order on the fly, any item to any position.
#7. The store organization seems kinda terrible in general. Arriving at a title via one category (ie, Demos), there is no link to show you the other items for that title. I think only if you navigate a very specific way will you see all downloads related to a title.
#8. Extra button presses to start a title downloading and then into the background is annoying. Who wouldn't want background downloading? "No thanks, I'll just stay here on the store page and watch it download, and then manually navigate out back to the XMB to play it." Automatic background download and continue shopping, please.
#9. Filter out the PSP content in the PS Store by option, please.
Balance: What I do love is the detailed and more finnicky series of options with a lot of the stuff in the menus - triangle button stuff and such. It's just organized poorly.
SEARCH in the store is a great idea - 360 should have this.
QUESTION: I'm under the impression that since I have 720p and 1080i checked off in the settings, the 360 spits out EVERYTHING at 1080i (the highest one I checked...), but I'm hearing something about how the PS3, with multiple options checked, will spit out either 720p or 1080i, depending on source material? ie, all blu-rays at 1080i, but games are back and forth...?
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True, though ratings are mostly shit. I generally use the search.
#2. Equally bad - can you NOT browse your list of installed games / demos ALPHABETICALLY?! All I get are Creation Date and the (doesnt' do anything for me) Format options.
I guess not, though I never longed for this. I have mine sorted so that the game I played most recently is at the top and the oldest is as the bottom.
#3. Is there no way to prevent someone from playing on your profile ("user") and thus accumulating trophies or using your saves or doing whatever else?
Don't know. I've never had a need or want for this feature. Perhaps I will when my kids get older.
#4. The official PS3 remote - I didn't realize it at the time, but because it's bluetooth - no chance of controlling the TV as well, which means I STILL have to use 2 remotes - unlike the 360's official remote which is all-in-one.
I like the bluetooth remote since I can change the music while in almost any room in my house. But there are third party remotes (like harmony) that can control the ps3 via a ir-usb adapter that plugs into the ps3. (Some actually look built in)
#5. Separate downloading and installing is awful. Not being able to do anything whilst a game installs (even a small demo) is even worse.
Agreed. This is my biggest complaint and annoyance.
#6. Lack of detailed download management like the 360. I want to be able to rearrange download order on the fly, any item to any position.
Normally I wouldn't care about this but I can see how this would be frustrating if I was "new" to the party.
#7. The store organization seems kinda terrible in general. Arriving at a title via one category (ie, Demos), there is no link to show you the other items for that title. I think only if you navigate a very specific way will you see all downloads related to a title.
Yes its not ideal.
#8. Extra button presses to start a title downloading and then into the background is annoying. Who wouldn't want background downloading? "No thanks, I'll just stay here on the store page and watch it download, and then manually navigate out back to the XMB to play it." Automatic background download and continue shopping, please.
Actually one benefit of not background downloading is that it will automatically install when its finished downloading. I use this at times. (I'll set it to download and go do something else, that way its installed when I get back)
#9. Filter out the PSP content in the PS Store by option, please.
Agreed this would be nice.
Let me tell you about Demon's Souls....
Interesting; good tip.
PS3 doesn't have the scaler built in so the native res of the games/bluray is what you get (or as close as your tv can approximate).
Shame on you, PSN.
Double shame for requiring a stupid fucking application (Media Go) to browse the PSP store, and not browse the PS3 store whatsoever.
Copy XBL's party system right up to the point where you're skirting lawsuit territory. Leave out the frequent drops, of course.
Allow us to turn off the blinding blue strobe light on the Eye camera, please. Granted, I took care of it already with electrical tape, but I really shouldn't have to resort to that.
A couple more USB ports, please?
Not making me update the system every time I turn it on would be kind of nice, too. I know, you're in a tough spot because you started a pissing contest with some hackers and now you're racing to plug security holes. But how is that my problem as a consumer?
Sony needs to just like...go to ground level and rebuild that shit. I love their system, but that stuff drives me nuts.
Yeah, I think that's asking a bit too much. You realise all the current PS3 games rely on the XMB OS, right? 'Rebuilding that shit' would suddenly make those games not work so well, if at all. This is why the in-game XMB is so slow and there's no cross game voice chat. It wasn't designed for those features and while they've managed to get around problems to get the in-game XMB working, the same can't obviously be said with cross game voice chat. It just isn't possible.
Anyway, I'm sure there was a similar thread a year or two ago but ah well, doesn't matter. Here's my list of problems/suggestions:
One of the guys on SCEE's PS Store staff has hinted something's going to be happening with that soon, maybe to make it more in-line with what they've shown of the NGP's store.
yeah, I wouldn't really mind if the cord wasn't so short, but this is a terrible design.
Folding@Home is very system intensive (it's basically using Cell to do a shitload of math), so folding in the background and playing any PS3 game would be impossible.
Would be nice if they would add a few "light" games to the application though, it would be pretty cool to be able to play some sort of old Namco Arcade style games while I was folding.
You can browse the PSP section from a PS3 or a PSP, you don't need Media Go at all (although it makes downloading/storing games a hell of a lot easier).
Media Go used to be fucking terrible (I used to complain about it every time it was mentioned), but after a few updates it's much, much better. The resource-hogging crashcan it used to be was replaced with a slimmer, stabler version a while ago. Also, why should Media Go browse the PS3 store? You can't download or transfer PS3 games to anything other than a PS3.
My only current complaint with Media Go is that it still installs that Apple-flavored pile of horseshit called "Quicktime" when it installs.
Why would a Bluetooth Remote control your TV?
The good news is that if your TV supports Bravia Sync or Control Over HDMI than you can use your TV's remote to control your PS3, which comes in handy when you're watching a movie or playing music.
I'm pretty sure the only reason it's there is to make sure the system has the proper codecs for converting video to mp4 so it's playable on the PSP. Media Go works fine after Quicktime has been uninstalled.
I'm quite sure that is up to the developer, not Sony.
I might be an odd one here, but I rather like the XMB (I've never had/used an XBOX360 though). The only thing I would change is a better online system, so I can group friends more easily, or chat with them, or other things of the sort.
1. The upper right-hand corner. Ugh. Ugly, and not very useful. Do we really need a scrolling marquee with advertising info? Take that shit out of there. The corner should have:
Controller battery info
Number of friends currently online
Number of messages in inbox
A digital clock instead of the small, dumb analogue one
Clear info at a glance.
2. Notification system needs a lot of work. Putting new system messages in the upper right-hand corner is annoying. Do it like the XBox - messages in the center-bottom of the screen, unless in a game. Make the font bigger, and make it more stylized than white text on a gray box.
3. A real web browser. I don't understand why neither Firefox nor Opera were an option at launch, nor Chrome now. Sony's browser sucks. My 60GB system locks up all the time because of JavaScript, and I frequently get 'Out of Memory' messages when looking at some Flash stuff. I even get general layout/CSS errors. If you're going to offer a browser, make/use one that works and push updates for it.
While I like the idea of cross-game chat, party systems, and other online improvements, I seriously doubt we'll see any of those things implemented as long as PSN is free. If I had the choice between paying $60/yr and getting those features added, or leaving it the way it is now, I would leave it. However, I know it's inevitable. I'm sure when the PS4 rolls out, online play will become a PS+ exclusive (which will no doubt get a price increase to match Live).
Overall, I like the XMB. There are a lot of little things they could do to streamline it, but I hope they leave the overall interface alone.
What firmware update are you on? Cause all that stuff is there. The battery info you just have to press the PS button for, because showing battery info for every single thing attached to the PS3 would be kinda stupid. If you were using 7 controllers at a time, it'd cover the entire top of the screen and look way uglier. And I'm not sure how on earth you missed the digital clock. The analogue clock is really only used as a loading icon.
Oh and the ticker is only a problem in the US and Japan. PAL countries don't have it.
I think that entire bar looks fine. Worlds better than it used to.
Works out ok for me.
Where I really have a problem is with music. It would be nice if I could just sort by folder name, instead of by artist/album/etc. Sometimes I like to group more than one artist or album into the same folder, and I don't really like making playlists.
BLOGGU~
Can't stand this. My list of dowloads is huge, and I only have 40GB. Constantly swapping out, and it took me over 5 minutes to find an old game I wanted to reinstall.
Edit: I may have misunderstood this. I was talking about sorting your purchased downloads in the store you might want to reinstall.
Yeah I've got Best PS3 (for my favourites), PS3, PS3 Demo, PSone and PSP folders. I installed a 320GB HDD last year, so have plenty of space for all of them.
I'm thinking of creating a PS3 Adventure folder too, since TellTale's games can get pretty annoying (each episode is a solo game, so a 5 part series is 5 different games in a folder). I kinda wish they'd create a main hub for them, then have each episode come out as DLC for it. Trophies would probably be grouped that way too (rather than the current seperate trophy list for each episode).
For the click challenged, the list there is:
1. Cross Game Voice Chat
2. Software Emulation for PS2 games
3. Auto-Syncing Trophies
4. PS Button – Auto Read Message Upon Notification
5. ps3 speak The ARABIC language
But everything else has been touched upon in this thread.
also, I get problems where whenever I change video mode onto the PS3 (using HDMI) it'll like, fail the handshake for a moment and then work again, but it's a serious pain in the ass to me.
I can separate them into separate folders, but it still sorts them by newest first...
I want that shit to be alphabetical.
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You should see the number of threads in the PSN forums asking, begging, pleading, screaming for a decent browser.
Sonys response so far?
Complete, total silence. For 5 years.
I bet my left, no, BOTH my testicles the PS4 OS has Chrome built into it. Or will just be a Chromium reskin.
I meant from a PC for either. Used to be a Playstation Store website thing for PSP, I think I remember. But should be full store access for either platform like on xbox.com. Purchases/ queuing downloads, everything.
It wouldn't. I said I didn't realize (either that the remote was bluetooth - or didnt consider that since it was bluetooth it wouldnt be controlling my tv - I had it for a long time before I had the ps3 and got used to the 360 remote in the meantime)
I feel like there is a lot less stuff for multiplatform games showing up there vs xbox live
Where is the Battlefield Bad Company Demo? Still there on 360
and here's the page for PS3 version:
http://us.playstation.com/games-and-media/demos/battlefield-bad-company-demo.html
Yet browsing and searching for it via my PS3 yield no results. Only BF1943
There's a freeware program called PSP Content Manager that will let you resort your games easily. Just remember to hit Apply Sort when you're done.
Annoyingly enough, stuff does disappear every so often. Not only demos (including the bullshit Hot Pursuit demo), but full games as well:
- Outrun Online Arcade was pulled from the PSN in Europe (and XBLM everywhere) when Sega didn't renew the Ferrari license
- Sega Rally Revo for the PSP disappeared for reasons unknown
- The batch of Disney PS1 games was removed, probably for licensing reasons
- Jet Moto 3 was removed, probably for music licensing reasons
- Some Dragonball Z PSP games were removed after six months
The good news is that if you buy something from the PSN, they are required to provide you with a download forever, which means that even after a game has been removed you can still redownload it from your download list. I'm not sure how that works with demos, but if it's in your list you could give it a shot.
Probably not going to happen due to the fact Microsoft actually has that feature patented. Kinda like how Namco has a patent for mini-games during loading times. Software patents are so incredibly dumb.