Heroes have pretty fantastic AI in comparison to the henchmen, not the least of which because you can configure them however you like, and you've got direct control over what they use automatically, and what needs to be manually triggered by you.
Hell, if you're duoing, then you'll both be able to control their individual positions if you run 3 heroes each. Seriously, heroes are great.
One of the best uses for heroes is as interrupters, because they are lolfast when it comes to target acquisition and skill use. Mesmer heroes can interrupt 1/2 second skills with regularity.
Heroes are also good at spreading conditions and hexes around, though not necessarily in the right target priority, since they have a constant full view of the battlefield. This is why Sabway and Discordway work so well - heroes will automatically spread SS around, and will spam the appropriate Discord target without needing to be told.
They're also better healers 99% of the time, as they have some sense of enemy aggro (this is easy to see with a bunch of melee enemies - people with prot will just spam all of it on whoever they're aggroed on when combat starts) and their reaction times are much better.
Is it wrong I want the commando class in GW2 for reals? :P There's a tragic lack of soldiers vs. fantasy fiction out there.
It's not wrong. The commando was hilariously overpowered. A long-lasting area daze and blind for 5e? A 100-300 damage nuke on a 8s recharge? A 500 damage knockdown trap? Quite possibly the most awesome "ohshitohshit" elite skill ever?
So my girlfriend got the trilogy yesterday and I plan to play through a few campaigns with her. She's settled on Ritualist for now. We plan on making extensive use of Heroes to do harder content down the road. With all that in mind, what profession would go best with her? Also, are there any professions I should avoid right now? I heard some murmurs about elementalists not doing enough damage to spike in higher difficulties. I won't have a ton of time on my hands soon so I'd rather avoid a dud profession or a poor combination between us.
I was thinking some kind of melee would mesh nicely with the ritualist weapon buffs. Maybe a Warrior or Assassin or Paragon. Maybe even a Dervish, because it sounds like they've been massively buffed since I last played. Any suggestions?
So I'm kind of curious. Say I prefer the look of one set of people over another, and make a class for their campaign. Is it possible to go to another one while I'm still low level?
If you are in Factions & Nightfall you need to complete a couple missions on the newbie spot before you're allowed to leave. For Prophecies, you can get a run from Ascalon to Lion's Arch the minute you're out of the pre-searing(newbie spot).
However, to unlock travel to another campaign you need to do a quest first and this might be a bit hard if you're low level, especially the Prophecies -> Nightfall one.
So I'm kind of curious. Say I prefer the look of one set of people over another, and make a class for their campaign. Is it possible to go to another one while I'm still low level?
Each campaign has a certain point during it where you gain the ability to venture off to both the other campaigns as well as Eye of the North. For Prophecies, it takes quite a while, opening up once you hit Lion's Arch. For Factions I think that as soon as you get to the mainland (Kaineng City) you can travel. And for Nightfall, you need to finish off the last storyline quest in Istan.
So my girlfriend got the trilogy yesterday and I plan to play through a few campaigns with her. She's settled on Ritualist for now. We plan on making extensive use of Heroes to do harder content down the road. With all that in mind, what profession would go best with her? Also, are there any professions I should avoid right now? I heard some murmurs about elementalists not doing enough damage to spike in higher difficulties. I won't have a ton of time on my hands soon so I'd rather avoid a dud profession or a poor combination between us.
I was thinking some kind of melee would mesh nicely with the ritualist weapon buffs. Maybe a Warrior or Assassin or Paragon. Maybe even a Dervish, because it sounds like they've been massively buffed since I last played. Any suggestions?
The three most typically used hero classes are Necromancers, Ritualists, and Mesmers. Mostly due to the exceptional healing or large amounts of armor-ignoring damage each class can do. You wouldn't go wrong picking one of those.
Yeah, also Monk heroes for some smiting goodness (Ray of Judgment) and buffing melee (Judge's Insight, Strength of Honor and Balthazar Spirit).
Elementalists can do nice damage in Hard Mode if they flee away from Fire and into Air.
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EDIT: Oh yeah, i asked before but got no answer, is the PA guild active? I've been guildless since coming back to GW and it seems that most of my old guildies have stopped playing too
Yeah, also Monk heroes for some smiting goodness (Ray of Judgment) and buffing melee (Judge's Insight, Strength of Honor and Balthazar Spirit).
Elementalists can do nice damage in Hard Mode if they flee away from Fire and into Air.
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EDIT: Oh yeah, i asked before but got no answer, is the PA guild active? I've been guildless since coming back to GW and it seems that most of my old guildies have stopped playing too
The PA guild is still semi-active. It's not crazy active, but people will get on here and there. I can shoot you an invite if you'd like. I'm always up for helping or running something though.
I'm usually around playing GW, but I'm most likely going to stay in my current guild. If anyone needs help on something (Currently use a D/A or a Rit), I wouldn't mind helping. IGN is "Keeper of Divine".
So my girlfriend got the trilogy yesterday and I plan to play through a few campaigns with her. She's settled on Ritualist for now. We plan on making extensive use of Heroes to do harder content down the road. With all that in mind, what profession would go best with her? Also, are there any professions I should avoid right now? I heard some murmurs about elementalists not doing enough damage to spike in higher difficulties. I won't have a ton of time on my hands soon so I'd rather avoid a dud profession or a poor combination between us.
I was thinking some kind of melee would mesh nicely with the ritualist weapon buffs. Maybe a Warrior or Assassin or Paragon. Maybe even a Dervish, because it sounds like they've been massively buffed since I last played. Any suggestions?
The three most typically used hero classes are Necromancers, Ritualists, and Mesmers. Mostly due to the exceptional healing or large amounts of armor-ignoring damage each class can do. You wouldn't go wrong picking one of those.
heh, sorry, I should have specified I was looking for what profession would be good for me to play to go with her ritualist. I have a pretty good idea of what kind of heroes seem popular/useful. I just don't know what to play.
So my girlfriend got the trilogy yesterday and I plan to play through a few campaigns with her. She's settled on Ritualist for now. We plan on making extensive use of Heroes to do harder content down the road. With all that in mind, what profession would go best with her? Also, are there any professions I should avoid right now? I heard some murmurs about elementalists not doing enough damage to spike in higher difficulties. I won't have a ton of time on my hands soon so I'd rather avoid a dud profession or a poor combination between us.
I was thinking some kind of melee would mesh nicely with the ritualist weapon buffs. Maybe a Warrior or Assassin or Paragon. Maybe even a Dervish, because it sounds like they've been massively buffed since I last played. Any suggestions?
The three most typically used hero classes are Necromancers, Ritualists, and Mesmers. Mostly due to the exceptional healing or large amounts of armor-ignoring damage each class can do. You wouldn't go wrong picking one of those.
heh, sorry, I should have specified I was looking for what profession would be good for me to play to go with her ritualist. I have a pretty good idea of what kind of heroes seem popular/useful. I just don't know what to play.
Can't really go wrong with a tank like Dervish/Warrior. The only classes that I'd be down on taking would be Assassin and Ranger as they're just (IMO) not as good as the rest.
Rt and Ranger work well together actually. If you can get to Great Dwarf Weapon in EoTN and Barrage for the Ranger you will have an AOE knockdown spamming machine (especially if the Rt carries and Earthbind spirit with something akin to a prot Soul Twisting build).
This has been used extensively by me and Mord to great success in any mission or campaign. Not a lot resists knockdown.
The three most typically used hero classes are Necromancers, Ritualists, and Mesmers. Mostly due to the exceptional healing or large amounts of armor-ignoring damage each class can do. You wouldn't go wrong picking one of those.
heh, sorry, I should have specified I was looking for what profession would be good for me to play to go with her ritualist. I have a pretty good idea of what kind of heroes seem popular/useful. I just don't know what to play.
Can't really go wrong with a tank like Dervish/Warrior. The only classes that I'd be down on taking would be Assassin and Ranger as they're just (IMO) not as good as the rest.
I can understand Ranger, but what particularly about Assassin turns you off? From what I've been reading they're excellent melee dps with a primary attribute that seems like good damage and good energy management. Is there something I'm missing?
Right now I'm fluctuating between Warrior/Dervish/Assassin. They all seem so good for different reasons. Also, from my understanding Paragons are more about buffs and support rather than melee dps. Somehow I used to have it in my head that they were more like a Warrior than a Monk.
EDIT: Also, neither of us have EotN, and I'm not sure how soon we'll be able to get it, so it's best to assume we won't have access to EotN skills for a while.
Just one thing, just in case. Just because your girlfriend is playing a caster, you don't really have to play a melee toon at all, you know? You can roll through the game with a caster/ranged team just fine, actually...probably better than with a melee toon.
That's not to discourage you incase you want to play one since warriors and sins are 2 of my favorite classes (along with rits and necros) but i'm weird and usually choose classes because their elite/normal armors looks cool (also why i can never play a mesmer no matter how powerful they have become)
Just one thing, just in case. Just because your girlfriend is playing a caster, you don't really have to play a melee toon at all, you know? You can roll through the game with a caster/ranged team just fine, actually...probably better than with a melee toon.
That's not to discourage you incase you want to play one since warriors and sins are 2 of my favorite classes (along with rits and necros) but i'm weird and usually choose classes because their elite/normal armors looks cool (also why i can never play a mesmer no matter how powerful they have become)
Really? Somehow I was under the impression that melee in Guild Wars are considered better overall dps. I also figured it would be nice to have someone to engage the enemies in melee that wasn't a hero. Maybe I'll try out a Mesmer or Necro then. Agh, too many choices! They all look so good!
Didn't see this posted yet, but GWPVX has a list of the most common and best builds for guild wars. Best is subjective, but these builds are a good place to start. Personally i would recommend a barbs necromancer or the pious renewal dervish
Really? Somehow I was under the impression that melee in Guild Wars are considered better overall dps. I also figured it would be nice to have someone to engage the enemies in melee that wasn't a hero. Maybe I'll try out a Mesmer or Necro then. Agh, too many choices! They all look so good!
On my Rit i play with a full caster team of heroes. I have been getting Masters (best reward) on all the Cantha missions so far.
With a Ritualist you can create a 'wall' of spirits that will tank the mobs for you while everyone else damages them. If you get a Necro hero (if you have Nightfall, you can get 1 almost immediately when you get to Elona), you can spec him as a minion master(i think it's easier for heroes to do this role than you if you want to go with a Necro) and that's more 'mobs' to melee/tank the enemy.
Really, play whatever you like ... all classes are useful, imo. Since you said your girlfriend wanted to play a Ritualist, i assume that Dervs and Paragons are out of the question, which is why i haven't been recommending them.
I was under the impression that with embark beach it isn't as painful for folks from different campaigns to play together... Is this false? If I roll a Dervish, will I be forced to complete most of Nightfall before we meet up? If so, that's massively lame.
I was under the impression that with embark beach it isn't as painful for folks from different campaigns to play together... Is this false? If I roll a Dervish, will I be forced to complete most of Nightfall before we meet up? If so, that's massively lame.
No, but you need to unlock the travel to other continents through quests and i think this only happens when you're lvl15-18. Same as for Factions.
Wow, really? Cause I managed to make my old prophecies character travel to Cantha just fine, and he was right out of pre-searing. Maybe it's different for the other factions then. Bummer. I guess I'm saving Dervish for another time.
It's not level based, it's quest based. You do a quest when you get to the mainland in cantha (kaining center, i think?) and you can travel to other places.
Yeah, that... when i said levels, i meant that those are which you usually are when you can do those quests. (However, unlike Prophecies, leveling is Factions or Nightfall is A LOT faster).
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Yeah, from 20e to 25e it looks like.
One of the best uses for heroes is as interrupters, because they are lolfast when it comes to target acquisition and skill use. Mesmer heroes can interrupt 1/2 second skills with regularity.
Heroes are also good at spreading conditions and hexes around, though not necessarily in the right target priority, since they have a constant full view of the battlefield. This is why Sabway and Discordway work so well - heroes will automatically spread SS around, and will spam the appropriate Discord target without needing to be told.
I'll have to run through some of the story missions before the sequel comes out.
If you still have this, I'll take if off your hands for 25e.
It's not wrong. The commando was hilariously overpowered. A long-lasting area daze and blind for 5e? A 100-300 damage nuke on a 8s recharge? A 500 damage knockdown trap? Quite possibly the most awesome "ohshitohshit" elite skill ever?
Hell yes I'd take a commando!
I was thinking some kind of melee would mesh nicely with the ritualist weapon buffs. Maybe a Warrior or Assassin or Paragon. Maybe even a Dervish, because it sounds like they've been massively buffed since I last played. Any suggestions?
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If you are in Factions & Nightfall you need to complete a couple missions on the newbie spot before you're allowed to leave. For Prophecies, you can get a run from Ascalon to Lion's Arch the minute you're out of the pre-searing(newbie spot).
However, to unlock travel to another campaign you need to do a quest first and this might be a bit hard if you're low level, especially the Prophecies -> Nightfall one.
More details here.
Elementalists can do nice damage in Hard Mode if they flee away from Fire and into Air.
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EDIT: Oh yeah, i asked before but got no answer, is the PA guild active? I've been guildless since coming back to GW and it seems that most of my old guildies have stopped playing too
The PA guild is still semi-active. It's not crazy active, but people will get on here and there. I can shoot you an invite if you'd like. I'm always up for helping or running something though.
I'm only playing casually and i've done most of the game solo wiht H/H but it's nice to have someone to talk to in game once in a while
heh, sorry, I should have specified I was looking for what profession would be good for me to play to go with her ritualist. I have a pretty good idea of what kind of heroes seem popular/useful. I just don't know what to play.
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Can't really go wrong with a tank like Dervish/Warrior. The only classes that I'd be down on taking would be Assassin and Ranger as they're just (IMO) not as good as the rest.
This has been used extensively by me and Mord to great success in any mission or campaign. Not a lot resists knockdown.
I can understand Ranger, but what particularly about Assassin turns you off? From what I've been reading they're excellent melee dps with a primary attribute that seems like good damage and good energy management. Is there something I'm missing?
Right now I'm fluctuating between Warrior/Dervish/Assassin. They all seem so good for different reasons. Also, from my understanding Paragons are more about buffs and support rather than melee dps. Somehow I used to have it in my head that they were more like a Warrior than a Monk.
EDIT: Also, neither of us have EotN, and I'm not sure how soon we'll be able to get it, so it's best to assume we won't have access to EotN skills for a while.
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Just one thing, just in case. Just because your girlfriend is playing a caster, you don't really have to play a melee toon at all, you know? You can roll through the game with a caster/ranged team just fine, actually...probably better than with a melee toon.
That's not to discourage you incase you want to play one since warriors and sins are 2 of my favorite classes (along with rits and necros) but i'm weird and usually choose classes because their elite/normal armors looks cool
And gawdamn, some of that new GW2 art is mind destroyingly pretty.
I hate temple strike.
So much.
If the PA guild is still active, I wouldn't mind rolling with some of y'all for random PVE stuff.
Oh, sorry.
more like:
HAAAA-click. HAAAA-click. HAAAAT-click. Now I'm dead.
Really? Somehow I was under the impression that melee in Guild Wars are considered better overall dps. I also figured it would be nice to have someone to engage the enemies in melee that wasn't a hero. Maybe I'll try out a Mesmer or Necro then. Agh, too many choices! They all look so good!
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Derv or War for that.
What's your IGN? I can invite you if you want.
On my Rit i play with a full caster team of heroes. I have been getting Masters (best reward) on all the Cantha missions so far.
With a Ritualist you can create a 'wall' of spirits that will tank the mobs for you while everyone else damages them. If you get a Necro hero (if you have Nightfall, you can get 1 almost immediately when you get to Elona), you can spec him as a minion master(i think it's easier for heroes to do this role than you if you want to go with a Necro) and that's more 'mobs' to melee/tank the enemy.
Really, play whatever you like ... all classes are useful, imo. Since you said your girlfriend wanted to play a Ritualist, i assume that Dervs and Paragons are out of the question, which is why i haven't been recommending them.
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Wind of Change is kinda boring so far.
And why isn't there any 7 hero team build yet.
No, but you need to unlock the travel to other continents through quests and i think this only happens when you're lvl15-18. Same as for Factions.
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