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pheezer needs help with a financial decision

PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
edited February 2007 in Games and Technology
Okay, so I have about $300. I want to spend this on gaming.

Now there's obviously the Wii. I still don't have one and I want one. But they're still impossible to come by in my city so I don't know if or when I'll finally be able to get my hands on one.

The DS Lite: really hot. I don't even have a DS. Clearly, huge gaming possibilities here.

The PS two: Okay, I have a fat PS2 but it's dying and there are a lot of NIS games I'd still like to play.


I'm thinking maybe the DS Lite, FFVI, New SMB, and use the rest of the money on something less wasteful.

PS two: I have a couple of games I haven't been playing due to aforementioned slow dying process, and also a Gamecube backlog I'm catching up on.

I'm leaning heavily towards the DS right now, but can anyone make a solid argument one way or the other?

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  • ToadTheMushroomToadTheMushroom Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I'd go with the DS + a load of games combo.

    Instant fun.

    Plus there are some insanely good titles out for the Ds already.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    If you buy a DS, you're going to have trouble saving money for anything else.

    I've purchased four DS titles this week. Yes, they were all on clearance- BUT STILL.

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2007
    DarkPrimus wrote:
    If you buy a DS, you're going to have trouble saving money for anything else.

    I've purchased four DS titles this week. Yes, they were all on clearance- BUT STILL.

    Yeah, but I don't have that much time for gaming anyhow these days, so that's less of a terrible thing. I won't be out looking for new titles too often.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    pheezer FD wrote:
    DarkPrimus wrote:
    If you buy a DS, you're going to have trouble saving money for anything else.

    I've purchased four DS titles this week. Yes, they were all on clearance- BUT STILL.

    Yeah, but I don't have that much time for gaming anyhow these days, so that's less of a terrible thing.

    You'll find you have much more time with a handheld than with a traditional console.

    Go with the DS. I've bought more DS games than games for anything else except maybe my beloved Dreamcast, and I've owned the thing less than a year now.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Animal Crossing is stealing my thoughts :( chalk another vote up for the DS.

    And Phoenix Wright. And Mario.

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2007
    The DS is promising because it will allow me to sit around with my girlfriend and play games while she watches TV. As it stands I'm usually leaving the room to play Civ IV while she's hanging out and that actually kinda sucks.

    There's also the whole "not competing for the TV" thing too.

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2007
    darleysam wrote:
    Animal Crossing is stealing my thoughts

    I am not interested in that title whatsoever :P
    And Phoenix Wright. And Mario.

    These two, a little and a lot. How much game play is there in PW? I want something I can chew on for a while, you know?

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  • Blitz RawketBlitz Rawket Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I say DS Lite, hands-down. The Wii is really awesome, but I don't think there are enough top-notch games on it just yet to warrant the enormous hassle it is to find one.

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  • Iz-GOodIz-GOod Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Obvious advantages for each choice:
    - DS: Can be played on public transport and during breaks at school/work
    - Wii: Great fun if you have gamer friends who will come over and play
    - PS2: You probably already have games for it, and it has an insane amount of games to choose from, and many of them are now Greatest Hits.

    If you spend lots of time away from home, then the DS is probably the best choice.

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  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Well, do you game when you're not at home? One of the benefits of a portable is to take it out and play whenever a dull moment arrives. Personally, I've purchased 8 DS games and I haven't even completed half of them due to lack of time and interest. It's fun though to play it ocassionally.

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2007
    Iz-GOod wrote:
    Obvious advantages for each choice:
    - DS: Can be played on public transport and during breaks at school/work
    - Wii: Great fun if you have gamer friends who will come over and play
    - PS2: You probably already have games for it, and it has an insane amount of games to choose from, and many of them are now Greatest Hits.

    If you spend lots of time away from home, then the DS is probably the best choice.

    Well, my bus rides are short and I'm not trustful of the strangers on the bus, so I won't be playing it much there, and I certainly won't be at work. But I do live with the girlfriend, so something I can enjoy in the same room as her without taking over the TV would be well received.

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  • Atlus ParkerAtlus Parker Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I'd say go for the DS Lite as well. Since you have not already owned a DS you'll have the entire library available and since it's only $30 you'll be able to get at least 5 games with it to start out with.

    The Wii, while nice, would only leave you with the cash for one game. Unfortunately, despite what people here will you tell you, there's only a couple games worth owning on the Wii at this time. One of them is also available on Gamecube and doesn't really benefit that much from Wii controls.

    The PS2 also has an extensive library as well but you already own one and it sounds like it still works. You can hold off on buying this one for a while.

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  • Neo RasaNeo Rasa Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    The DS is definitely the clear choice here. Your PS2 is on its way out but it hasn't bitten the bullet yet. With $300 you won't really be accessing the Wii to its fullest as you'll definitely want to get a few games with it when you do get one.

    With the DS, it's $129.99, it plays any GBA game as well as the DS games, and there's a large enough quantity of can't miss games in both formats that you could throw darts at a wall and still come out with nothing but great games.

    Also you mentioned interest in FFVI. You can play what are arguably definitive versions of all the Final Fantasy games that are worth playing on the DS. You've got I and II on a single GBA cartridge that's very common. FFIV Advance can be had for $19.99 at many locations now. FFIII and FFV haven't gone down in price yet but they got large releases and won't vanish like an Atlus game. VI of course comes out this week.

    You also mentioned interest in New Super Mario Bros. You'll also have access to great games like Wario Land 4, Super Princess Peach, Ninja Five-O, Gunstar Super Heroes, etc.

    If you don't care about getting the box+manual, there's a very large quantity of very high quality GBA platformers and RPGs you can get for $10 each.

    DS Lite seems like the best option for sheer quantity of awesome games you'll get within your budget.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I'm gonna go ahead and say it: The Nintendo DS is the best video game console ever made.

    Buy and enjoy.

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2007
    Yeah, I had a GBA. I have the FFI&II cart, too. Which is how I know that the DS can not play the definitive versions of FF I-VI, as FFI is completely and totally fucked on that cart.

    On the Wii: Yeah, I know, it soaks up most of the funds on its own. Honestly, if I could find one easily, I'd probably grab it on an impulse and pick up TP too, but I have no idea when I'll even find one locally.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I have 45 games for the DS and I can vouch that MOST of them...like 80% are worth owning. And a good portion of them were just sent to me for review.

    That, to me, is an unbelievably high percentage.

    The PS2 is a good system too. And I'm looking for a Wii myself. And I love my Xbox 360.

    But the Nintendo DS is just distilled awesome with an awesome and ever-growing innovative, intelligent, and fun game library.

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  • Neo RasaNeo Rasa Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    pheezer FD wrote:
    Yeah, I had a GBA. I have the FFI&II cart, too. Which is how I know that the DS can not play the definitive versions of FF I-VI, as FFI is completely and totally fucked on that cart.

    I need to play my original cartridge and see the difference again. The GBA one did feel way too easy. I did like how they altered FFII though. It didn't FIX the game per se but it helped.

    I like IV quite a bit just for its re-translation. It's better than the PSX re-release and far better than what we got on the SNES. There are some silly glitches that somehow made it in but it's nothing game breaking.

    V isn't changed all that much from what I can tell so far, just a slightly better translation.

    Some decent imports to be had on the DS as well with no hassle if you can get past the language barrier.

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  • ZeromusZeromus Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    DS.

    DS.

    DS.

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  • SageinaRageSageinaRage Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Yeah, the ds lite, if you can find one. Definitely the 'bang for the buck' winner.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    The Dawn of Souls version of Final Fantasy is definitely one of the cheesiest remakes I've ever played. Far cry from the original NES version, which was much harder.

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2007
    Neo Rasa wrote:
    pheezer FD wrote:
    Yeah, I had a GBA. I have the FFI&II cart, too. Which is how I know that the DS can not play the definitive versions of FF I-VI, as FFI is completely and totally fucked on that cart.

    I need to play my original cartridge and see the difference again. The GBA one did feel way too easy. I did like how they altered FFII though. It didn't FIX the game per se but it helped.

    I like IV quite a bit just for its re-translation. It's better than the PSX re-release and far better than what we got on the SNES. There are some silly glitches that somehow made it in but it's nothing game breaking.

    V isn't changed all that much from what I can tell so far, just a slightly better translation.

    The way they changed the magic system in FFI would have been enough to break the game on its own, but then they had to go and turn all of the enemies into complete pussies on top of it. Oh, but the way they threw in seemingly never ending dungeons with nearly invincible bosses that felt obviously tacked on, that really covered for it.

    FFV would be really, really awesome to have, though. Was that 3D version of FFIII any good?

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  • Neo RasaNeo Rasa Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    pheezer FD wrote:
    FFV would be really, really awesome to have, though. Was that 3D version of FFIII any good?

    It's pretty damn good actually. A nice merger of the classic gameplay with a more beefed up job system and a much slicker interface. Some people didn't like the graphics in motion but I was able to look past that. Might want to try before you buy. FFV GBA is very good though, no complaints.

    Man I got my friend to start up the NES cartridge and you're right. Loading up a save makes me remember how they basically outright turned off all the enemy's more powerful spells for the GBA version. Big mistake.

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  • OneEyedJackOneEyedJack Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    What is the ps2 doing? I just fixed mine the other day for a DRE. I followed an online guide and it was actually pretty easy.

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2007
    What is the ps2 doing? I just fixed mine the other day for a DRE. I followed an online guide and it was actually pretty easy.

    Just a DRE.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    pheezer FD wrote:
    How much game play is there in PW? I want something I can chew on for a while, you know?
    Personally, there's plenty enough. It doesn't feel like it at first, but that's because the case lengths go up in time exponentially until the fifth case is nearly as long as the whole rest of the game combined. I'm really bad at giving time estimates, but I'd say anywhere from 10 to 20 hours. There's no real replay value like unlockables or anything, but it's well worth playing again later, like rereading a good book.

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2007
    pheezer FD wrote:
    How much game play is there in PW? I want something I can chew on for a while, you know?
    Personally, there's plenty enough. It doesn't feel like it at first, but that's because the case lengths go up in time exponentially until the fifth case is nearly as long as the whole rest of the game combined. I'm really bad at giving time estimates, but I'd say anywhere from 10 to 20 hours. There's no real replay value like unlockables or anything, but it's well worth playing again later, like rereading a good book.

    10 or 20 hours really isn't that much though. It's good, but not if there's no replay.

    TO: Knight of Lodis had like 40 hours per game, and you had to play it multiple times to unlock everything. That's a huge value in my mind. 20 hours is a decent value, but I'd like to grab something a little heavier.

    What's the generally considered shit-hot puzzler on the DS? I'm pretty fucking awesome at Tetris, but I don't know if I need another Tetris.

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2007
    FFVI comes out this week? Hell fucking yes!

    I'm getting a DS this week, pheez. Looks like a good deal.

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  • Recoil42Recoil42 Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Major problem with the DS that only DarkPrimus even touched. Since this is financial decision, the DS is REALLLLY not a good choice.

    It's not that there's so many good games. It's the combination of the fact that there's so many good games, and yet they're all so short, and many of them not particularly replayable. They're awesome experiences while they last, but then you don't go back to them. So, unlike with any other system, where you're ok with playing an AAA game again, when you're playing the DS, it's alot easier to get caught into buying a crapload of games in a very short time.

    Phoenix Wright is the longest game I've played so far on the DS, and even then, it's only about as long as a medium-length game on any other system.. so if you DO get a DS, make sure to get PW. But I'd definitely suggest you go with the Wii, myself.

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  • NPNP Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Is the DS Lite really any easier to find than the Wii nowadays though? It's sold out everywhere in my area..

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  • Neo RasaNeo Rasa Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    FFVI comes out this week? Hell fucking yes!

    I'm getting a DS this week, pheez. Looks like a good deal.

    :^:

    Unfortunately nothing really touches Tactics Ogre on either system. Advance Wars: Dual Strike is fantastic but only if you don't care about storyline. The story is just as stupid and naively written as the US GBA iterations (can't comment on the Japanese writing).

    That said, Advance Wars: Dual Strike is a great turn based strategy game. Though it's "strategy" is more akin to Desert Commander or Military Madness where the "strategy" is based more on terrain exploitation and the efficient construction of units rather than purely being based on formations. It's also $19.99 now. There's multiplayer, several differnet challenge modes to play, more commanders to unlock for the extra modes and colors for them. It will definitely keep you occupied if itis your thing.

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  • Neo RasaNeo Rasa Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    NP wrote:
    Is the DS Lite really any easier to find than the Wii nowadays though? It's sold out everywhere in my area..

    I don't know what part of NJ you're in, but I have to agree with you. Here we're getting the Wii MORE often than we get the DS Lite.

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2007
    NP wrote:
    Is the DS Lite really any easier to find than the Wii nowadays though? It's sold out everywhere in my area..
    My EB says shipments go out this week.

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  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Neo Rasa wrote:
    NP wrote:
    Is the DS Lite really any easier to find than the Wii nowadays though? It's sold out everywhere in my area..

    I don't know what part of NJ you're in, but I have to agree with you. Here we're getting the Wii MORE often than we get the DS Lite.

    im in jersey too and can't find one for anything.

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2007
    Neo Rasa wrote:
    NP wrote:
    Is the DS Lite really any easier to find than the Wii nowadays though? It's sold out everywhere in my area..

    I don't know what part of NJ you're in, but I have to agree with you. Here we're getting the Wii MORE often than we get the DS Lite.

    My Best Buy and FutureShops both list the DS Lite in stock, in at least one colour if not both. Not a single Wii in town from what I've heard though. A woman I work with makes weekly phone calls because she wants one for her kids (yeah I'm sure) but keeps hearing that they aren't staying in stock for more than a few hours.

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  • NPNP Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Neo Rasa wrote:
    NP wrote:
    Is the DS Lite really any easier to find than the Wii nowadays though? It's sold out everywhere in my area..

    I don't know what part of NJ you're in, but I have to agree with you. Here we're getting the Wii MORE often than we get the DS Lite.

    I'm in the Monmouth county area, and haven't been able to find anything in this area for about 4 weeks. Fortunately, though, I work in Manhattan and managed to snag a black one for my girlfriend after calling the Nintendo World Store everyday until they finally said they had it (and rushing there during my lunch break to grab one before it ran out). Now I kind of want one for myself and am not looking forward to starting the hunt again..I really think I had less of a hassle getting my Wii :shock:

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  • SixfortyfiveSixfortyfive Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Recoil42 wrote:
    they're all so short, and many of them not particularly replayable.
    Say what?

    I put more time into Bleach DS than all my other games combined last year. Then you have games like Elite Beat Agents and Trauma Center, where replaying for score is a big part of the appeal. (I kinda cheesed my way to all S-ranks in Trauma Center, though.) I have about 10 games for the DS, and I'd say that maybe half of those are "must haves," but they pretty much all carried me through 2006.

    I'd go with either the DS or PS2 for now.

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2007
    Hey, aside from PW and Hotel Dusk, what kinds of good story-based games are out for the DS?

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  • Neo RasaNeo Rasa Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Hey, aside from PW and Hotel Dusk, what kinds of good story-based games are out for the DS?

    Just Touch Detective and Trace Memory really. I enjoyed both despite their flaws.

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  • thegloamingthegloaming Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Hey, aside from PW and Hotel Dusk, what kinds of good story-based games are out for the DS?

    Trauma Center's story is passable, although it's nowhere near as well composed as PW's.

    Also, while not incredibly deep, the "story" in Elite Beat Agents makes the game well worth playing. The addictive and enjoyable gameplay is really just a bonus.

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  • KaputaKaputa Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Neo Rasa wrote:
    Hey, aside from PW and Hotel Dusk, what kinds of good story-based games are out for the DS?

    Just Touch Detective and Trace Memory really. I enjoyed both despite their flaws.
    Trace Memory was really awesome, despite the five hour length. Definitely one of the better five hours I've spent with a game.

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