Spider Island was my first exposure to Spidey and I'm now totally enamored with the character and his world; outrageously good event! A question if you don't mind: I've read everything on the checklist but I seem to be missing the issue where...
The Queen defeats Cap and turns him into that Spider-thingy.
Did that happen totally in Offsceenville or is it in a Cap book I can pick up?
Golden YakBurnished BovineThe sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered Userregular
Yep, the latest Venom.
I kinda felt the whole Spider-King is Captain America subplot was used a little awkwardly.
Both Spider-Man and Venom are really good books at the moment though, and Spider-Island was great overall, just that one cross-over bit was kind of weak.
So if I'm going to get Spider-Island when it's collected, and jump onto the ongoing on the next story arc, this next issue of ASM is the one, right?
Yup, number 674. I'd also highly recommend you get all the Big Time stuff starting with the 4 issue arc, 648-651, and up to SI.
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Golden YakBurnished BovineThe sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered Userregular
Incidentally, Avenging Spider-Man seems to be largely an action oriented book that doesn't sweat continuity much. I'm kind've reminded of the Adventures of Spider-Man stuff - this seems to be a book that's just about teaming Spider-Man up with guys and having them fight villainy, without the depth of some of the other books.
Yeah, it reads like Marvel Team-up. And judging by how quick this sold out at my store, I think the best thing they did for this title was not call it "Marvel Team-up"
Our next "big" Spidey story is in 2012 and it's an adventure with Doc Ock titled "Ends of the Earth." It's the big Sinister Six story that we've been building and building and building. We saw hints of it all the way back at the start of "Big Time" in "Amazing" #648 and recently Doc Ock has been on a massive victory lap in the Marvel Universe. He's bested Iron Man. He totally punked Reed Richards. He broke into the Baxter Building and stole some things while making everyone in the FF chase fake zombie pirates. Plus he pulled one over on Hank Pym in "Avengers Academy." So right there you're looking at three of the biggest brains in the Marvel Universe who all just got pantsed by Otto Octavius -- on his way towards his biggest master plan ever.
Back in "Amazing" #600, we learned that Otto is dying. In "Marvel time" he was given months to live. We're reaching the point where he's only got weeks. So he's got one last shot and Otto isn't going to be content at taking over New York or pulling one over on the scientific community. He's making the BIG grab. He's got one shot at a master plan with the Sinister Six and he's going for THE WORLD! And to stop him Spider-Man will have to take their fight to... "THE ENDS OF THE EARTH!"
so if i want to jump into spiderman (amazing spidey) which issue should i jump in at coming up, i dont want to get right into the middle of a story and have no idea whats going on lol (oh, venom too if possible lol)
#648 is when Big Time started, which is basically the most recent jumping on date. If you want to jump on now, Spider-Island has just finished so I guess the next issue will be the new arc.
#648 is when Big Time started, which is basically the most recent jumping on date. If you want to jump on now, Spider-Island has just finished so I guess the next issue will be the new arc.
what # would that be? happen to know by chance? or the date.. lol im hopeless
Also, if going for spidey and new venom stuff, ASM #654 is basically Venom #0.5 , Venom series itself is only at 6-7 issues so it should be easy to get also
This actually reminds me of the very first time I got into a big comic story. The moment I started regularly collecting comics, was waaay back during a Sinister Six storyline drawn by Todd McFarlane, where Doc Ock has designs on world domination. It was totally insane - the Six went to another dimension and stole super-battle armor than made them way stronger, Doc had adamantium arms, guest starts included Hulk, Nova, the entire FF, Deathlok, there was a subplot with MJ wanting to do nude scenes in a movie and Peter being really disapproving... I can't recall if it was good or not, but I was too young to care because it had 20+ super-characters wailing on each other. Rad as balls.
This actually reminds me of the very first time I got into a big comic story. The moment I started regularly collecting comics, was waaay back during a Sinister Six storyline drawn by Todd McFarlane, where Doc Ock has designs on world domination. It was totally insane - the Six went to another dimension and stole super-battle armor than made them way stronger, Doc had adamantium arms, guest starts included Hulk, Nova, the entire FF, Deathlok, there was a subplot with MJ wanting to do nude scenes in a movie and Peter being really disapproving... I can't recall if it was good or not, but I was too young to care because it had 20+ super-characters wailing on each other. Rad as balls.
So I guess I'm in for this one too.
Revenge of the Sinister Six. That arc was written and drawn by Erik Larsen for the adjectiveless Spider-Man series (which McFarlane started). It was actually a follow up to a previous "Return of the Sinister Six" which was drawn by Larsen but written by David Michelanie (I believe).
That one was a little odd because it has Ock get the gang back together to hold the world hostage, but his plan was to actually seed the Earth's atmosphere with something that would make it impossible to get high on cocaine. This would make Ock the only one on earth who could get you high, which would make him obscenely rich as the only cocaine supplier on the planet. I guess it was supposed to be some ingenious "twist" on the stereotypical megalomaniacal supervillain goals, but it just came off as goofy.
"Revenge" was Larsen playing the idea straight and essentially cranking the dial up to 11 - hence the 20 something guest stars on that arc. I also really liked that arc because it recognized the fact that most of Spidey's villains were serious threats. Team them up and you have essentially an Avenger's level problem. This is what Slott's been building up to, we'll see what comes out of "Ends of the Earth."
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Golden YakBurnished BovineThe sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered Userregular
Let me say flat out: "Avenging Spider-Man" is a monthly comic. If it fails to ship in a given month, it's on me.
There's definitely going to be a little space between this first three parter and Joe's next story, but there are still going to be issues every month by Zeb and some of the best artists in comics.
Joe has been pretty up front about what he can do, and that makes it easy for me to schedule around him. The things that make it hard to schedule are when an editor and artist are surprised by things they didn't see coming.
I've learned a lot about scheduling over the last two years from working on Spider-Man and when I worked on "52" for DC, so I can generally guide this stuff pretty well (as long as [assistant editor] Ellie Pyle is there caching all my mistakes).
After this first three part arc, we'll have a few issues by some other big name artists and Zeb. Then we get back to Joe's second arc which is also going to be huge. So I think we're going to see six to eight issues from Joe every year, which I think holds up with just about any other book.
So.. not being familiar with a lot of artists/writers/etc since i recently just got back into buying stuff again - how bad is that? since i enjoyed avenging #1
while that is definitely a Land cover, we have no confirmation that he will be doing interiors. Especially since he is also supposed to be doing Uncanny around this time.
Fuck Bleeding Cool for doing the same shit all the time
"MADUERIA OFF LAND ON YOU GUYS"
If Rich Johnston waited for enough details on a story to make it last more than one sentence he might stop being so damn reactionary.
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Golden YakBurnished BovineThe sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered Userregular
After this first three part arc, we'll have a few issues by some other big name artists and Zeb. Then we get back to Joe's second arc which is also going to be huge. So I think we're going to see six to eight issues from Joe every year, which I think holds up with just about any other book.
Well... okay. Frankly, I would have been surprised if he was able to consistently do 12 issues with no offs/delays.
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I'd be surprised if Madueria could do 6 issues a year. He hasn't shown any regular schedule in over 15 years. Granted he was away from comics for 5 or so years but nothing since the end of his Uncanny Run has been close to monthly.
But be honest, did anyone think 3 issues would be the most Madueria would be able to do before a fill-in? Because nowhere until that Wacker article did Marvel even attempt to say to expect 3 issues on, 3-4 issues off, etc.
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Venom #9, really good stuff, and Caselli was the artist in an unexpected move.
Not so much an epilogue to Spider-Island as Flash dealing more with the suit, and a villain named Hijacker and a tank trying to make some money during all the chaos. Remender is one of those writers who uses violence really well, and not so much in your face about it but that it works with the story being told.
having Hijacker run over an innocent man, mother, and child, causing Flash to flip out and ultimately bite the dude's head off was played really well, justified it, and then finding his center again with Betty was nicely played.
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Golden YakBurnished BovineThe sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered Userregular
Yeah, re.: Venom
I was choked earlier when his dad's letter was destroyed. It was great that he got to hear it after all, and in a way that shows how good Betty is for him.
Venom was a great this week. Flash and Betty are a nice couple and Flash being Venom and definitely wobbling on the rail is interesting and exactly what Remender writes very well.
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Avenging Spider-Man 2 was fun as hell. It is basically Marvel Team-Up in the best sense. Just light, fun plots with a guest character and Spider-Man. JJJ also gets a pretty big portion of the issue and is fantastic.
Zeb Wells is definitely one of the better modern Spider-Man writers and I am really hoping he gets a long run on this title.
So that's why Slott couldn't say who the team-up buddy was
super excited
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Jack-O-Lanterns origin in Venom #11 is messed. up.
kidnapped by Daddy-O one halloween and raised in his basement to be an assassin, starting off by putting bombs in cats and later killing his own parents.
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Did that happen totally in Offsceenville or is it in a Cap book I can pick up?
Both Spider-Man and Venom are really good books at the moment though, and Spider-Island was great overall, just that one cross-over bit was kind of weak.
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Yup, number 674. I'd also highly recommend you get all the Big Time stuff starting with the 4 issue arc, 648-651, and up to SI.
Plus it looks good, if you enjoy Joe Mad's style.
what # would that be? happen to know by chance? or the date.. lol im hopeless
This actually reminds me of the very first time I got into a big comic story. The moment I started regularly collecting comics, was waaay back during a Sinister Six storyline drawn by Todd McFarlane, where Doc Ock has designs on world domination. It was totally insane - the Six went to another dimension and stole super-battle armor than made them way stronger, Doc had adamantium arms, guest starts included Hulk, Nova, the entire FF, Deathlok, there was a subplot with MJ wanting to do nude scenes in a movie and Peter being really disapproving... I can't recall if it was good or not, but I was too young to care because it had 20+ super-characters wailing on each other. Rad as balls.
So I guess I'm in for this one too.
Revenge of the Sinister Six. That arc was written and drawn by Erik Larsen for the adjectiveless Spider-Man series (which McFarlane started). It was actually a follow up to a previous "Return of the Sinister Six" which was drawn by Larsen but written by David Michelanie (I believe).
That one was a little odd because it has Ock get the gang back together to hold the world hostage, but his plan was to actually seed the Earth's atmosphere with something that would make it impossible to get high on cocaine. This would make Ock the only one on earth who could get you high, which would make him obscenely rich as the only cocaine supplier on the planet. I guess it was supposed to be some ingenious "twist" on the stereotypical megalomaniacal supervillain goals, but it just came off as goofy.
"Revenge" was Larsen playing the idea straight and essentially cranking the dial up to 11 - hence the 20 something guest stars on that arc. I also really liked that arc because it recognized the fact that most of Spidey's villains were serious threats. Team them up and you have essentially an Avenger's level problem. This is what Slott's been building up to, we'll see what comes out of "Ends of the Earth."
Yes, that's who it was. Why did I think McFarlane. It all blends together after a certain point.
And now I want to read that cocaine story.
ahahahahaha, at least he won't be on Uncanny then.
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but Greg Land is a terrible tracer of an artist
while that is definitely a Land cover, we have no confirmation that he will be doing interiors. Especially since he is also supposed to be doing Uncanny around this time.
The dude does a lot of covers.
"MADUERIA OFF LAND ON YOU GUYS"
If Rich Johnston waited for enough details on a story to make it last more than one sentence he might stop being so damn reactionary.
Well... okay. Frankly, I would have been surprised if he was able to consistently do 12 issues with no offs/delays.
But be honest, did anyone think 3 issues would be the most Madueria would be able to do before a fill-in? Because nowhere until that Wacker article did Marvel even attempt to say to expect 3 issues on, 3-4 issues off, etc.
Not so much an epilogue to Spider-Island as Flash dealing more with the suit, and a villain named Hijacker and a tank trying to make some money during all the chaos. Remender is one of those writers who uses violence really well, and not so much in your face about it but that it works with the story being told.
That's a better choice, and it looks like maybe one shots of artists is in the pipeline.
Zeb Wells is definitely one of the better modern Spider-Man writers and I am really hoping he gets a long run on this title.
So that's why Slott couldn't say who the team-up buddy was
super excited