I didn't like this issue as much as the first one (which I actually liked a lot)
But I did find it funny in the sense of reading it with all the people freaking out that this was going to lead to doc Spidey banging MJ in the back of my head.
Honestly there was too much Peter in this issue.
Way too much. I'm fine with Spock, but The Superior Spock & his Ghost Pal Pete is kind of annoying. Still, it was done well in plenty of spots, so maybe I'll get used to it. I enjoy Peter's commentary, but I don't need it in every single panel.
I thought there was some good stuff in there. I want to see the person Peter becomes based on what he learns from Ock. Well, and what strange new venereal diseases he'll discover when he gets his body back, going by the new issue.
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its kinda sad but I'm more dissapointed with the inclusion on Ghost Pete so soon. I would have enjoyed it better with Ghost Pete being brought in mabye a full volume in, after Spock has really had some time to develop. Now with ghost Pete in every panel it kinda pulls away from the idea of Spock running the show
While thinking over for the hundredth time how I would improve this story, it occurred to me how much more I would have ultimately enjoyed seeing Spider-man: The Villain. I think I probably would have gone into it kicking and screaming as I am now, but it would have been much more interesting to me to see Ock attempt the hero's life only to fail miserably and ultimately descend into outright villainy again. We're talking about a guy who recently tried to wipe out the overwhelming majority of the world's population simply to satisfy his ego and to create the ultimate legacy of death and destruction. Such a drastic change in Spider-man's character might alienate some new readers but I don't think any more than having pseudo-good not-really-spider-man and his ghost-pal romp around town. And only after he'd completely ruined Spider-man's name and turned him into a vicious psychopath, seeing Peter's consciousness restored and forcing him to deal with those ramifications would have been fascinating.
Maybe Slott is still going to do something along those lines but it doesn't really look like it, what with Ock connecting with the death of Uncle Ben through Peter's memories. At this point, things are so unlikable for me I wish he'd go to one extreme just for the hell of it. Feels like a wasted opportunity.
Otto is that guy on the internet who says " If I was Spider-man I would do _____ "
and that Guy is everyone whose ever read a comic at one point in their lives.
Think about it if you woke up as Peter Parker you would do everything he's done. Possibly not as douchey but you'd try to be a better Spider-man than Spider-man was. Improve on his tech use his powers and resources more effectively ,Not let spidey intrude on Peter's life as much, and not mope around all the time.
So this story arc is Dan Slott telling you that you would not be better at it and it's subconciously irrating people.
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Also, I don't like how, when Ock remembers Pete's past, we see chubby Doc Ock getting intimate with M.J. It doesn't really make sense since Ock's old body wouldn't be part of the memory, and honestly it feels like Slott using Ock's non-ideal body to trigger disgust in the reader, which is kind of cheap and a bit of a slight to any dudes who might share that body type. The fact that it's Ock in Pete's body is already offputting enough.
Dan Slott isn't much of a looker himself, though, so I'm not about to say that it's prejudicial rather than a poor creative decision.
Also, I don't like how, when Ock remembers Pete's past, we see chubby Doc Ock getting intimate with M.J. It doesn't really make sense since Ock's old body wouldn't be part of the memory, and honestly it feels like Slott using Ock's non-ideal body to trigger disgust in the reader, which is kind of cheap and a bit of a slight to any dudes who might share that body type. The fact that it's Ock in Pete's body is already offputting enough.
Dan Slott isn't much of a looker himself, though, so I'm not about to say that it's prejudicial rather than a poor creative decision.
I think it makes sense because it's an abstraction anyways - the memories would be first-person. Neither body would really be part of the memory, Ock is just taking the visuals he has and when he pictures them it's the body he's familiar with.
Superior keeps getting better. I think #3 is the strongest issue so far.
Love the art, and it did more to humanize Otto while still showing how different (worse) he is than Peter. Also I dig the additions/scientific stuff he adds to his suit.
Also, I don't like how, when Ock remembers Pete's past, we see chubby Doc Ock getting intimate with M.J. It doesn't really make sense since Ock's old body wouldn't be part of the memory, and honestly it feels like Slott using Ock's non-ideal body to trigger disgust in the reader, which is kind of cheap and a bit of a slight to any dudes who might share that body type. The fact that it's Ock in Pete's body is already offputting enough.
Dan Slott isn't much of a looker himself, though, so I'm not about to say that it's prejudicial rather than a poor creative decision.
I think it makes sense because it's an abstraction anyways - the memories would be first-person. Neither body would really be part of the memory, Ock is just taking the visuals he has and when he pictures them it's the body he's familiar with.
It'd be fine if it was just Ock remembering stuff, but Peter acts like he can see the memories himself and he is disgusted by them even though it's just stuff that happened to him. That takes the scene away from the abstract and makes it a visual reality, unless Peter himself is an abstraction.
Well, looks like Peters back. Or at least co-piloting with Ock.
I know the Internet is gonna say this is Marvel/Slott backpedaling, but it seems like Superior has just been a way for Slott to tell a weird story he normally couldn't and get Spidey back into the classic "underdog wanted by Police" mode.
After #2 being a hiccup, I quite liked #3 as well. I still feel like we don't need as much Peter as we are getting, but it was for sure a way better balance than #2, and the dialogue was back to its usual par.
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I think #3 does a better job of bringing out more of Ock that we havent seen before
His wanting to give Vulture an out, to just give him what he has always wanted so he dosent have to resort to crime anymore was actually surprising. It shows that Ock actually thought of Vulture as a friend considering how he thought of the rest of the Six as hired help.
Also Ock's reaction to hitting a kid was something that I truly wasn't expecting. People tend to forget that everyone has a history and when you think of someone who tried to murder the world not to long ago, seeing him lose his shit over hitting a child leaves you wondering just how unstable he really is.
I'll give Slott this one, he's giving us more of Ock in small doses but I'm starting to understand why he's having Ghost Pete ride along so visibly. This is going to cause a major shift in how Spiderman approachs situations and how he deals with his opponents. Well thats what we can hope for.
Also who thinks Carlie is close to catching Ock or did she get taken in by his post Vulture capture speech
Superior Spider-Man isn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be
I was wrong! I admit that.
Thing is, Superior isn't the story it was marketed as. Slott writes stories like this and the one where Spidey loses his Spider-Sense as if this is a big change that he is going to keep around but really they are never that, they are more like the old Silver Age stories where Spidey was fucked over for a couple of issues and then fine, except in a modern deconstructionist style.
So yeah, Superior aint that bad. What it seemed that they were going to do with it looked really bad, but I think it was misadvertised there.
I think #3 does a better job of bringing out more of Ock that we havent seen before
His wanting to give Vulture an out, to just give him what he has always wanted so he dosent have to resort to crime anymore was actually surprising. It shows that Ock actually thought of Vulture as a friend considering how he thought of the rest of the Six as hired help.
Also Ock's reaction to hitting a kid was something that I truly wasn't expecting. People tend to forget that everyone has a history and when you think of someone who tried to murder the world not to long ago, seeing him lose his shit over hitting a child leaves you wondering just how unstable he really is.
I'll give Slott this one, he's giving us more of Ock in small doses but I'm starting to understand why he's having Ghost Pete ride along so visibly. This is going to cause a major shift in how Spiderman approachs situations and how he deals with his opponents. Well thats what we can hope for.
Also who thinks Carlie is close to catching Ock or did she get taken in by his post Vulture capture speech
No she,
clearly got confirmation that Spider=Ock from his speech, that's why ghost-Pete was afraid for her.
Superior Spider-Man isn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be
I was wrong! I admit that.
Thing is, Superior isn't the story it was marketed as. Slott writes stories like this and the one where Spidey loses his Spider-Sense as if this is a big change that he is going to keep around but really they are never that, they are more like the old Silver Age stories where Spidey was fucked over for a couple of issues and then fine, except in a modern deconstructionist style.
So yeah, Superior aint that bad. What it seemed that they were going to do with it looked really bad, but I think it was misadvertised there.
I feel like this was just another arc that Slott was planning on, but with the whole NOW rebranding it got pushed into it being a bigger deal that it was meant to be.
Yeah I think it's pretty clear that without NOW this would have been just another big ASM arc like Ends of the Earth, without the renumbering and new title and such.
I've enjoyed Superior overall. Ghost Peter being there from day one was a little disappointing (also, a ghost? I'm holding out hope it's not, but that's me).
Initially I was Icked out by the MJ dating, but it was handled well (it got a rise out of me, so mission accomplished regardless of how it was done).
I'm not regretting jumping back onto the spidey train with Superior, after at least a decade.
I've enjoyed Superior overall. Ghost Peter being there from day one was a little disappointing (also, a ghost? I'm holding out hope it's not, but that's me).
Initially I was Icked out by the MJ dating, but it was handled well (it got a rise out of me, so mission accomplished regardless of how it was done).
I'm not regretting jumping back onto the spidey train with Superior, after at least a decade.
Otto is essentially program overwriting Peters control of the body.
I suspect an implant near the brainstem
He's basically intercepting Peters nervous system and outputting his own commands.that would explain the video like portrayal his memories and perfect recall of Peters
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Wasn't that thrilled with Scarlet Spider this month, because I get a feeling the story was told to distance itself from how Otto is basically Kaine 2.0 in dealing with people in Superior.
Kaine gives in to the spider part of him that resurrected him in the first place because of The Other (and Grim Hunt I guess?) and basically gets reborn as a spider dude, kind of reverse Peter. Aracely will probably calm him down or whatever in the end but it seemed like it wasn't really a necessary point to make having just come off Kaine basically coming to grips with himself at the end of Minimum Carnage.
On the plus side the book has gotten much better with Houston locations, they got the third ward pretty accurate (gang country, and you see a Shark fight a Wolf!)
Wasn't that thrilled with Scarlet Spider this month, because I get a feeling the story was told to distance itself from how Otto is basically Kaine 2.0 in dealing with people in Superior.
Kaine gives in to the spider part of him that resurrected him in the first place because of The Other (and Grim Hunt I guess?) and basically gets reborn as a spider dude, kind of reverse Peter. Aracely will probably calm him down or whatever in the end but it seemed like it wasn't really a necessary point to make having just come off Kaine basically coming to grips with himself at the end of Minimum Carnage.
On the plus side the book has gotten much better with Houston locations, they got the third ward pretty accurate (gang country, and you see a Shark fight a Wolf!)
I like that they're dealing with the fact that Kaine is the current recipient of the Other powers. I wanted them to get there, but didn't think they would.
I loved that original stealth suit so much in Spider-Island. I was pretty disappointed that the look changed in Scarlet Spider, but I get the whole "I don't want people to think I'm Spider-Man" thing.
Otto is that guy on the internet who says " If I was Spider-man I would do _____ "
and that Guy is everyone whose ever read a comic at one point in their lives.
Think about it if you woke up as Peter Parker you would do everything he's done. Possibly not as douchey but you'd try to be a better Spider-man than Spider-man was. Improve on his tech use his powers and resources more effectively ,Not let spidey intrude on Peter's life as much, and not mope around all the time.
So this story arc is Dan Slott telling you that you would not be better at it and it's subconciously irrating people.
Yeah, I figured that was intentional on the part of marvel.
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Way too much. I'm fine with Spock, but The Superior Spock & his Ghost Pal Pete is kind of annoying. Still, it was done well in plenty of spots, so maybe I'll get used to it. I enjoy Peter's commentary, but I don't need it in every single panel.
I thought there was some good stuff in there. I want to see the person Peter becomes based on what he learns from Ock. Well, and what strange new venereal diseases he'll discover when he gets his body back, going by the new issue.
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Maybe Slott is still going to do something along those lines but it doesn't really look like it, what with Ock connecting with the death of Uncle Ben through Peter's memories. At this point, things are so unlikable for me I wish he'd go to one extreme just for the hell of it. Feels like a wasted opportunity.
Otto is that guy on the internet who says " If I was Spider-man I would do _____ "
and that Guy is everyone whose ever read a comic at one point in their lives.
Think about it if you woke up as Peter Parker you would do everything he's done. Possibly not as douchey but you'd try to be a better Spider-man than Spider-man was. Improve on his tech use his powers and resources more effectively ,Not let spidey intrude on Peter's life as much, and not mope around all the time.
So this story arc is Dan Slott telling you that you would not be better at it and it's subconciously irrating people.
What we have now is much tamer by comparison.
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Dan Slott isn't much of a looker himself, though, so I'm not about to say that it's prejudicial rather than a poor creative decision.
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I think it makes sense because it's an abstraction anyways - the memories would be first-person. Neither body would really be part of the memory, Ock is just taking the visuals he has and when he pictures them it's the body he's familiar with.
Love the art, and it did more to humanize Otto while still showing how different (worse) he is than Peter. Also I dig the additions/scientific stuff he adds to his suit.
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Superior Spider-Man #10 is being billed as a perfect jumping on point too. Uhmm...
I know the Internet is gonna say this is Marvel/Slott backpedaling, but it seems like Superior has just been a way for Slott to tell a weird story he normally couldn't and get Spidey back into the classic "underdog wanted by Police" mode.
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#3 was definitely a better issue, and more what I wanted to see from the title.
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Also Ock's reaction to hitting a kid was something that I truly wasn't expecting. People tend to forget that everyone has a history and when you think of someone who tried to murder the world not to long ago, seeing him lose his shit over hitting a child leaves you wondering just how unstable he really is.
I'll give Slott this one, he's giving us more of Ock in small doses but I'm starting to understand why he's having Ghost Pete ride along so visibly. This is going to cause a major shift in how Spiderman approachs situations and how he deals with his opponents. Well thats what we can hope for.
Also who thinks Carlie is close to catching Ock or did she get taken in by his post Vulture capture speech
Superior Spider-Man isn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be
I was wrong! I admit that.
Thing is, Superior isn't the story it was marketed as. Slott writes stories like this and the one where Spidey loses his Spider-Sense as if this is a big change that he is going to keep around but really they are never that, they are more like the old Silver Age stories where Spidey was fucked over for a couple of issues and then fine, except in a modern deconstructionist style.
So yeah, Superior aint that bad. What it seemed that they were going to do with it looked really bad, but I think it was misadvertised there.
I feel like this was just another arc that Slott was planning on, but with the whole NOW rebranding it got pushed into it being a bigger deal that it was meant to be.
Initially I was Icked out by the MJ dating, but it was handled well (it got a rise out of me, so mission accomplished regardless of how it was done).
I'm not regretting jumping back onto the spidey train with Superior, after at least a decade.
Best issue so far
You don't need to hold out hope for anything.
He's the original Peter in his subconscious.
I suspect an implant near the brainstem
He's basically intercepting Peters nervous system and outputting his own commands.that would explain the video like portrayal his memories and perfect recall of Peters
On the plus side the book has gotten much better with Houston locations, they got the third ward pretty accurate (gang country, and you see a Shark fight a Wolf!)
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So I had a big ol frowny face while reading Scarlet Spider this week.
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hate the spider totem so much
this issue was pretty much nothing but me grumbling and cursing under my breath while i read it
Yeah, I figured that was intentional on the part of marvel.
Seems so out of place in a Spidey comic.
Or they hold it for after Otto leaves.