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  • BlackDoveBlackDove Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Do we have talent lists for the mage yet? For the specializations I mean.

    Not yet.

    But you already know what they are.

    I mean.

    The actual skills are just a formality.

    You're gonna take Blood Mage if you're a psycho.

    You're gonna take Spirit Guy if you're a healer.

    You're gonna take Telekinesis probably if you're a status effect guy, like, throw people around, get them immobilized and shit.

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  • TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Back to Back looks like a pretty useful support ability for rogues.

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  • Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Well, the Rogue specs should be up soon-ish, according to the guy who leaked the Warrior ones. Mages afterwards, probably.

    http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6359674

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  • TalithTalith 変態という名の紳士 Miami, FLRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I'm sad they didn't implement some kind of spellsword spec.

    I was hoping for magically infused melee attacks with the swordstaff as opposed to DA1's untouchable tank. It appears they took the option out completely.

    I'll have to take a good look at the system and see what's possible.

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Talith wrote: »
    I'm sad they didn't implement some kind of spellsword spec.

    I was hoping for magically infused melee attacks with the swordstaff as opposed to DA1's untouchable tank. It appears they took the option out completely.

    I'll have to take a good look at the system and see what's possible.

    This is for the best, really. That kind of hybrid just devalues the Warrior.

    It is better off dead for the same reason that Dual Wielding and Archery are better off strictly the domain of the Rogue. Let the classes have a domain to call their own.

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  • Foolish ChaosFoolish Chaos Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Well the templar abilities are magical, but probably not the kind you want

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  • Bro Chi MinhBro Chi Minh Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I have a couple of questions regarding Origins:

    1. I just entered Redcliffe Castle how far along am I?

    2. Why am I getting murdered so often? I'm playing a mage with most of my points into the Primal spell group and I've brought Alistair, Leliana (archery-focused, would've swapped in Sten if I knew what was coming.) and Morrigan.

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  • Foolish ChaosFoolish Chaos Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    It depends on where you wen't before redcliff. If you are straight out of lothering, you have still have a long ways to go.

    As for why you are getting stomped: I had a pretty hard time with my first playthrough as well. It gets easier with practice and min-maxing

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  • OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    1) Are you healing at all with spells?

    2) Have you completed any other main bit? I.e. dwarves/mage tower/elves. If not, not that far in.

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  • Bro Chi MinhBro Chi Minh Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Oghulk wrote: »
    1) Are you healing at all with spells?

    2) Have you completed any other main bit? I.e. dwarves/mage tower/elves. If not, not that far in.

    Yeah, I have the basic healing spell and the group heal one from my Spirit Healer specialization, and I'm pretty much coming straight from Lothering.

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    You should really fuck around in Denerim before doing any of the true quest hubs. Or at least I always found that a good way to rack up exp.

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    You should really fuck around in Denerim before doing any of the true quest hubs. Or at least I always found that a good way to rack up exp.

    Denerim is one of the toughest areas. The random encounters with upwards of 20 people at the same time, including a dozen archers which constantly are using abilities to disable your characters.

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Spoit wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    You should really fuck around in Denerim before doing any of the true quest hubs. Or at least I always found that a good way to rack up exp.

    Denerim is one of the toughest areas. The random encounters with upwards of 20 people at the same time, including a dozen archers which constantly are using abilities to disable your characters.

    It is always where I went first. Even on my first run.

    Man up and grab that exp by the throat. Also, hit up Warden's Keep if you can.

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  • TalithTalith 変態という名の紳士 Miami, FLRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Talith wrote: »
    I'm sad they didn't implement some kind of spellsword spec.

    I was hoping for magically infused melee attacks with the swordstaff as opposed to DA1's untouchable tank. It appears they took the option out completely.

    I'll have to take a good look at the system and see what's possible.

    This is for the best, really. That kind of hybrid just devalues the Warrior.

    It is better off dead for the same reason that Dual Wielding and Archery are better off strictly the domain of the Rogue. Let the classes have a domain to call their own.

    Yeah, I can understand that of course. It's for the best in terms of balance, but it's just that I want to have my cake and eat it too.

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Denerim just needs a little bit of aoe and you're golden

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  • EvangirEvangir Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Blackjack wrote: »
    You really need basically all the Defender talents (Stonewall and Adamant are great). Skip the shield bashes beyond what's needed for prereqs.

    Nah, I don't think so.

    You're getting 50% damage resistance with just Shield Wall as a sustain. Stonewall only lasts five seconds and is an activated ability. Five seconds is a really miniscule amount of time, and I need to use my stamina for threat abilities, so enemies stay on my tank. So yeah, not getting Stonewall or Adamant.

    Stonewall probably works alright for a two-handed tank, who doesn't have access to a weapon and shield warrior's damage mitigation.

    5 seconds doesn't seem like much, but it has a 15 second cooldown (10 after getting the upgrade). It's either 50 or 100% damage reduction for 5 seconds that you can use every 10-15 seconds. That's insanity. Just set it as a high priority tactic when surrounded by more than 2 people, and it'll block an incredibly amount of damage.

    For only 2 points with no prerequisites, it seems like a really efficient way to use points/stamina.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    That's what I was looking at...

    Doesn't that mean you're basically immune to damage for 5s if you've got that and shield wall up?

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Evangir wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    You really need basically all the Defender talents (Stonewall and Adamant are great). Skip the shield bashes beyond what's needed for prereqs.

    Nah, I don't think so.

    You're getting 50% damage resistance with just Shield Wall as a sustain. Stonewall only lasts five seconds and is an activated ability. Five seconds is a really miniscule amount of time, and I need to use my stamina for threat abilities, so enemies stay on my tank. So yeah, not getting Stonewall or Adamant.

    Stonewall probably works alright for a two-handed tank, who doesn't have access to a weapon and shield warrior's damage mitigation.

    5 seconds doesn't seem like much, but it has a 15 second cooldown (10 after getting the upgrade). It's either 50 or 100% damage reduction for 5 seconds that you can use every 10-15 seconds. That's insanity. Just set it as a high priority tactic when surrounded by more than 2 people, and it'll block an incredibly amount of damage.

    For only 2 points with no prerequisites, it seems like a really efficient way to use points/stamina.

    I had trouble using it effectively in the 2nd part of the demo. I think that it'd shine with AoE on nightmare though.

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I don't think we've given enough attention to the fact that the Templar pinnacle ability is complete delicious madness. I love it.

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    They made templar spec not useless?

    WAT IS THIS MADNESS

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    If only I had the talents to spend on it. If only.

    Unfortunately I can't not be a Berserker.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    I don't think we've given enough attention to the fact that the Templar pinnacle ability is complete delicious madness. I love it.

    If you hatin'.

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  • EggPuppetEggPuppet Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    In the demo, when the dwarf tells the interrogator about how they ran into a witch that turned into a dragon, and then the interrogator is like, "well okay but if you tell me they RODE a dragon then this story is clearly a crock of shit" -

    that's pretty terrible writing. I mean you live in a fantasy world with dragons and witches and then someone mentions a dragon-witch and your response is, now that's ridiculous, followed by, "I now accept your premise but will not believe the most obvious proceeding event could happen."

    It just doesn't make any sense, and really feels like the person who wrote it is stupid and doesn't think through his own plot, but just wants to throw out some aggressive "conflict dialog" whether it fits or not.

    Similar problems seem to pop up everywhere in the script. I can understand enjoying it as a B-movie, but it blows my mind that anyone could take it at face value without cringing.

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  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning LoserdomRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    You should really fuck around in Denerim before doing any of the true quest hubs. Or at least I always found that a good way to rack up exp.

    Denerim is one of the toughest areas. The random encounters with upwards of 20 people at the same time, including a dozen archers which constantly are using abilities to disable your characters.

    It is always where I went first. Even on my first run.

    Man up and grab that exp by the throat. Also, hit up Warden's Keep if you can.

    On subsequent playthroughs, I find it much more fun to go from Lothering to the Dalish and then spend all your money on elfroots to level up with the allied supply caches.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    EggPuppet wrote: »
    In the demo, when the dwarf tells the interrogator about how they ran into a witch that turned into a dragon, and then the interrogator is like, "well okay but if you tell me they RODE a dragon then this story is clearly a crock of shit" -

    that's pretty terrible writing. I mean you live in a fantasy world with dragons and witches and then someone mentions a dragon-witch and your response is, now that's ridiculous, followed by, "I now accept your premise but will not believe the most obvious proceeding event could happen."

    It just doesn't make any sense, and really feels like the person who wrote it is stupid and doesn't think through his own plot, but just wants to throw out some aggressive "conflict dialog" whether it fits or not.

    Similar problems seem to pop up everywhere in the script. I can understand enjoying it as a B-movie, but it blows my mind that anyone could take it at face value without cringing.
    Uh, it's more the fact that someone riding a dragon anywhere at all isn't really an event that would go unnoticed, and doubly so when the place is a massive city with a huge population so it would be kind of known if anything like that ever happened.

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  • Delta AssaultDelta Assault Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Has anybody pointed out that Qunari with horns is just a really lame retcon?

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  • EvangirEvangir Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Has anybody pointed out that Qunari with horns is just a really lame retcon?

    Nope. This is literally the first time.

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  • Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    EggPuppet wrote: »
    In the demo, when the dwarf tells the interrogator about how they ran into a witch that turned into a dragon, and then the interrogator is like, "well okay but if you tell me they RODE a dragon then this story is clearly a crock of shit" -

    that's pretty terrible writing. I mean you live in a fantasy world with dragons and witches and then someone mentions a dragon-witch and your response is, now that's ridiculous, followed by, "I now accept your premise but will not believe the most obvious proceeding event could happen."

    It just doesn't make any sense, and really feels like the person who wrote it is stupid and doesn't think through his own plot, but just wants to throw out some aggressive "conflict dialog" whether it fits or not.

    Similar problems seem to pop up everywhere in the script. I can understand enjoying it as a B-movie, but it blows my mind that anyone could take it at face value without cringing.

    I take it you read the whole script for Dragon Age 2 then? Interesting.

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  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    uh Cassandra is already pretty skeptical of Flemeth being there at all

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  • EggPuppetEggPuppet Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Blackjack wrote: »
    EggPuppet wrote: »
    In the demo, when the dwarf tells the interrogator about how they ran into a witch that turned into a dragon, and then the interrogator is like, "well okay but if you tell me they RODE a dragon then this story is clearly a crock of shit" -

    that's pretty terrible writing. I mean you live in a fantasy world with dragons and witches and then someone mentions a dragon-witch and your response is, now that's ridiculous, followed by, "I now accept your premise but will not believe the most obvious proceeding event could happen."

    It just doesn't make any sense, and really feels like the person who wrote it is stupid and doesn't think through his own plot, but just wants to throw out some aggressive "conflict dialog" whether it fits or not.

    Similar problems seem to pop up everywhere in the script. I can understand enjoying it as a B-movie, but it blows my mind that anyone could take it at face value without cringing.
    Uh, it's more the fact that someone riding a dragon anywhere at all isn't really an event that would go unnoticed, and doubly so when the place is a massive city with a huge population so it would be kind of known if anything like that ever happened.

    Apparently it's being accepted that there have already been some unnoticed dragon-flights taking place, so excluding the possibility that the dragon could drop them off somewhere closer to their destination seems groundless.

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  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    there's quite a difference between a dragon flying in the blighted wilderness and a dragon flying literally across the entire country to Kirkwall

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  • FoefallerFoefaller Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Maybe Cassandra was paying enough attention to the story to realise that if Flemith could and was willing to fly the Hawke family to Kirkwall, she wouldn't have sent them on a errand to a Dalish Camp that was on the way. :P

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  • GoodKingJayIIIGoodKingJayIII They wanna get my gold on the ceilingRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Talith wrote: »
    I'm sad they didn't implement some kind of spellsword spec.

    I was hoping for magically infused melee attacks with the swordstaff as opposed to DA1's untouchable tank. It appears they took the option out completely.

    I'll have to take a good look at the system and see what's possible.

    This is for the best, really. That kind of hybrid just devalues the Warrior.

    It is better off dead for the same reason that Dual Wielding and Archery are better off strictly the domain of the Rogue. Let the classes have a domain to call their own.

    I think this would be true, but there seems to be a fair bit of overlap between mage and archer.

    Which is fine. Let people have their archer. They should let people have their staffsword fightin' mage guy too. Hell, that's basically what happened in that cool trailer.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    there seems to be a fair bit of overlap between mage and archer.
    Eh...There's some overlap between the archery tree and the Fire branch of the Elemental tree. Other than that, there's really not.

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  • DarisDaris Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Arcane Warrior DLC in the works. No worries. Got ten bucks ready?

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  • EggPuppetEggPuppet Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    -Tal wrote: »
    there's quite a difference between a dragon flying in the blighted wilderness and a dragon flying literally across the entire country to Kirkwall

    Maybe it was a cloudy day. Or the magical dragon witch could also turn herself invisible.

    Unless there's some kind of, "everyone knows dragons aren't built for distance - they're the cheetahs of the sky" rationalization used to patch this up.
    Foefaller wrote: »
    Maybe Cassandra was paying enough attention to the story to realise that if Flemith could and was willing to fly the Hawke family to Kirkwall, she wouldn't have sent them on a errand to a Dalish Camp that was on the way. :P

    That would mean the basis for her skepticism was confidence in the same story that she was discrediting.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    EggPuppet wrote: »
    -Tal wrote: »
    there's quite a difference between a dragon flying in the blighted wilderness and a dragon flying literally across the entire country to Kirkwall

    Maybe it was a cloudy day. Or the magical dragon witch could also turn herself invisible.

    Unless there's some kind of, "everyone knows dragons aren't built for distance - they're the cheetahs of the sky" rationalization used to patch this up.
    Foefaller wrote: »
    Maybe Cassandra was paying enough attention to the story to realise that if Flemith could and was willing to fly the Hawke family to Kirkwall, she wouldn't have sent them on a errand to a Dalish Camp that was on the way. :P

    That would mean the basis for her skepticism was confidence in the same story that she was discrediting.

    Or maybe it's a stupid idea to go flying into a heavily-populated city on a fucking dragon.

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  • EggPuppetEggPuppet Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    Or maybe it's a stupid idea to go flying into a heavily-populated city on a fucking dragon.

    You don't have to land in the city.

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Even by this threads standards, this dragon argument is rather silly

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Yes, it is.

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