I'd also vouch for Gamefly's used game sales services. The things I've bought from them were well priced, quickly shipped, and in basically impeccable condition. I have no idea how their subscription service itself is, because it's just not something I need.
I love Gamefly. They clearly care about the full product.
PS - You guys really don't know how insane I am about this. I buy games on Steam and then buy the retail version, too. I swear to god, if the video game museum in San Francisco ever gets off the ground, I'm moving there to answer the call of my PASSION.
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I'd love to, if I had the means. As it stands, though, I already have 80 DS games. That's JUST the DS games. (I don't sell my games after playing them, I'd never be able to bring myself to. 3 ceiling-high bookcases and counting...) There's no way I can afford MSRP and sustain that.
Why should it be preserved. Maybe if JRPGs weren't on their 8th or 13th iteration in the fucking franchise or EA didn't release Madden et al every year there would be some fucking gravitas in historical context.
Posterity? Nostalgia? A general inclination to take care of your possessions? (Is this a cultural thing? I know that in Japan, a game is worthless second-hand without the case and manual.) The way you talk, you seem to think video games are pretty disposable.
So instead of you bearing the costs of something you value, you expect someone else motivated by profit to do so for you?
Also, do I need to post pictures of the holocaust and pictures of a video game manual in the trash to make it clear to you?
Finally, games are mostly disposable as a form of entertainment. There are a few examples like Civ, TF2, where I can play them again and again. I've used goozex a few times but still own the vast majority of games I've ever played. I also only buy 3-4 games a year because I don't have enough time to play more than that with the amount of other stuff going on in my life.
This isn't entirely about my frustration on a personal level, knowing that it just got harder to find DS games at the quality that I require. If that was the case, I wouldn't care that they were throwing out cases and manuals for Imagine: Babysitting Catz 6; I would only care that they're doing it to things like 999.
The idea that this is being done to ALL games of a certain platform on a mass level makes me horribly upset. Is this seriously hard to understand?
I stopped buying used games about the same time I stopped pirating games. I only buy new games, and never from Gamestop because I do not wish to support their fucking awful business practices. I don't even buy physical copies of games anymore if I can help it since I just don't have room for tons of boxes and discs and shit. I buy from Steam or GOG.com, and if neither of those options are available I'll buy and download it directly from the developer's website (I know that they would get the most money if I did that all the time but I really like having all of my games available from Steam). If I can't do any of the above then I probably won't buy the game at all, except for 360 games. I buy those from Amazon.com but then I buy so few of them that it doesn't matter (I play more XBLA games than anything else).
What I mean to say is that I don't really give a shit about what dumbass thing Gamestop does anymore because fuck them, I don't shop there anyway.
If you want a guaranteed box and manual, buy it new. If it's a rare game, and the price of a new copy is too high now, you should have bought it when it was new.
In a perfect world...
Anyway, if a game is still available new, I seldom find the used price to be worth the difference. Five bucks? I'm not that hard up for cash...
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Gamestop may destroy DS boxes, but they add value in the form or free roaches!
Here's a horrible Gamestop shopping experience that we never would have expected: a customer bought a few inexpensive used games, got them home, and discovered that they were terribly buggy. And by "buggy," we mean "the cases were filled with dead roaches and roach eggs."
“ I discovered a new disappointment. I was there last week while my car was at the dealer getting the ecm replaced from a manufacturer recall. While I was waiting I walked across the street to a gamestop (after swearing them off years ago I thought Id pop in to see if things had changed) and the girl there wasnt exactly very nice, a little snotty to be honest but I brushed her off and I bought some cheap gamecube games. When I get home I open it up to find...
Yup, roaches, multiple ones. This game had 3 of them inside it and they laid eggs and stained the inside of the manual. The thing is you couldn't have missed them when you put the used game in it, I certainly didn't when I opened it and legs started falling out on my desk. Both gamecube games had roaches in it and the psp game I had picked up also had a roach head inside the umd case stuck in the back in plain view. Its not like they were behind the games artwork or something where you couldn't see and its not like they were tiny or even just one.
So I called gamestop and told the girl answering the phone and her reply was "Well the games work don't they?" and after a long pause gave me that big sigh and said if I have to return them I can in that kind of smarmy snide attitude. I called their customer service both on employee attitude and roaches and they said "Well that shouldn't be, but we will certainly pass your comments along to the district manager of that store, can I help you with anything else?" and I hung up. After such shitty all around customer service and roaches I finally lost all faith in them.
I think this thread is kind of funny since people who know anything about Gamestop shouldn't be shopping there anyway. Saving money is all well and good, but Gamestop actively engages in a business model which continually damages the very companies making the games you want to buy used.
At some point, you just gotta have some principles and not support the asshole corporation damaging the same industry it makes tons of money from and then pitches shitfits when the industry tries to increase its fairly narrow profit margin at the expense of the used game industry (i.e., Gamestop).
Won't someone think of the poor publishers raking in billions of dollars of revenue?
Yeah, it pretty horrible that companies who dump hundreds of millions of dollars into developing and publishing games might want to have a better profit margin than a company cutting the legs out from underneath all their effortsas their entire damn business model.
It actually turns out that in order to make those billions in revenue, huge amounts of revenue have to be spent. Gamestop, however, doesn't have to bother with any of that and just milks the ignorant and unsuspecting for all their worth. If you want to buy a used game, I don't have any problem with that.
Just don't buy it from Gamestop. There are plenty of other options available unless you live under a rock in the Antarctic.
This sentiment needs to stop.
As big of a fan as I am of video games, and by proxy the developers who make them, and me not being a fan of GS, even I can see the BS in this idea.
The truth of the matter is, by the time you go into any retail store (much less GS) to buy a game, before your money is in the register the developer already got paid.
Let me say that again.
The developer already got paid.
Retail stores buy pallets and pallets of these games if they're popular (maybe a couple boxes if they aren't) and disseminate a majority of them to their stores and regional storage. The rest gets thrown into their home storage, half for online orders, half to just keep in reserve. When stores get low on product, the managers at regional storage send them more, and request more from home storage.
At no point has there been a need for more new copies of a certain game, nor (typically) has there been any real profit made from used game sales due to the relative newness of it.
Due to this backstock mentality, if you really think that used game sales really damage a developers bottom dollar severely, you need to take a business class. Don't get me wrong, it does damage it... but we're talking in numbers closer to four digits, not six or seven.
Now, this backstock mentality does pose a problem to the idea of "Nobody pre-ordered, so we don't have em." response if talking about GS specifically. They do, they just don't have them there. But that's a whole other thing, about how you shouldn't be pissed off at the store that you walk into itself, but the people making the company charter. Guys at the store are just making a paycheck, knowahmsayin?
I think this thread is kind of funny since people who know anything about Gamestop shouldn't be shopping there anyway. Saving money is all well and good, but Gamestop actively engages in a business model which continually damages the very companies making the games you want to buy used.
At some point, you just gotta have some principles and not support the asshole corporation damaging the same industry it makes tons of money from and then pitches shitfits when the industry tries to increase its fairly narrow profit margin at the expense of the used game industry (i.e., Gamestop).
Won't someone think of the poor publishers raking in billions of dollars of revenue?
Yeah, it pretty horrible that companies who dump hundreds of millions of dollars into developing and publishing games might want to have a better profit margin than a company cutting the legs out from underneath all their effortsas their entire damn business model.
It actually turns out that in order to make those billions in revenue, huge amounts of revenue have to be spent. Gamestop, however, doesn't have to bother with any of that and just milks the ignorant and unsuspecting for all their worth. If you want to buy a used game, I don't have any problem with that.
Just don't buy it from Gamestop. There are plenty of other options available unless you live under a rock in the Antarctic.
Plenty of other options? Every store that sells games these days has a used business model here in Ontario. EB, Futureshop, Bestbuy, Rogers Video, Walmart, etc. There's no difference in buying from one store or the other anymore. Maybe if publishers actually reduced the prices of new games after X period of time I'd consider buying games I'm on the fence about new more often. If a game has been out for a year and it's still $59.99, I'm going to take a serious look at the cheaper used option before I purchase.
As a consumer, used games are great. Games are expensive and if I can save some money, I'm not going to fret about whether or not I'm harming the publishers bottom line. I buy plenty of games brand new as is. Maybe publishers should see the used game market as competition for our dollar rather than a threat.
I've been in these threads before repeating the same mantra: Gamestop started their trade-in business because profit margins on new titles are slim to none, and it became worse as PC software (non-game, like office products) and accessory sales slid.
You think that's all they do? They destroy untold amounts of strategy guides and PC games once they get pennied out. That's if employees don't take them home for free.
This is SOP for books. Eventually the remaining copies are sold back to the publisher (at a discount), but because it's too expensive to ship them (heavy books), the books are destroyed. This is true at Barnes & Nobles, Borders, and every other store that sells books, though employees are not supposed to take them home.
Destroying books at the end of the day was the only really terrible part of working at a bookstore. We'd kill thousands of books a week.
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This isn't entirely about my frustration on a personal level, knowing that it just got harder to find DS games at the quality that I require. If that was the case, I wouldn't care that they were throwing out cases and manuals for Imagine: Babysitting Catz 6; I would only care that they're doing it to things like 999.
The idea that this is being done to ALL games of a certain platform on a mass level makes me horribly upset. Is this seriously hard to understand?
I don't think it is a problem with understanding that it makes you upset, I would (to put on a therapist hat here) venture to guess that the problem with understanding is in the motivation behind you being upset.
I.E. it makes it sound as if you are near obsessive over the subject, which others don't understand. Hollywood should be able to answer for me what happens with humans dealing with something they don't understand, right?
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Destroying books at the end of the day was the only really terrible part of working at a bookstore. We'd kill thousands of books a week.
I don't know if I could handle that as part of a job. Even if they'd just end up as garbage anyway, the idea of destroying books just gives me the chills.
What is wrong with burning books? Most literature is shit anyways, and should be burned.
I used to work at a movie theater and we threw away giant garbage bags full of popcorn every night, I took one home once and it was 6 weeks worth of popcorn.
If movie theaters didn't throw away popcorn they could feed a starving family for 6 weeks.
Yes, why the hell is there some stigma against burning/destroying books? I mean just look at how much food and other resources that the US throws away that people in other countries need to survive. Kind of stupid to get upset over some Star Wars EU novels getting thrown away.
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Yes, why the hell is there some stigma against burning/destroying books? I mean just look at how much food and other resources that the US throws away that people in other countries need to survive. Kind of stupid to get upset over some Star Wars EU novels getting thrown away.
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I have yet to see this practice at my local Gamestop. Used games still sit in proper cases (if available when Gamestop pawn-shopped 'em in).
I still shop at Gamestop even though I disagree with a lot of shit they do. But the trick is that I never, ever, ever buy used. I never trade-in. Buying new stuff still kicks them some amount of profit, but nowhere NEAR what they'd like. Oh and I also never reserve pre-orders with just a money-down; I buy the product upfront, again diminishing whatever profit they'd have on 'reserving'.
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I used to work at a movie theater and we threw away giant garbage bags full of popcorn every night, I took one home once and it was 6 weeks worth of popcorn.
I used to work at a movie theater and we threw away giant garbage bags full of popcorn every night, I took one home once and it was 6 weeks worth of popcorn.
That is monumentally disgusting.
That stuff never goes bad, although I didn't eat it, I didn't eat popcorn for a while when I worked there.
I use to be all about saving money, but now I will pay more for new because it supports the people who make the games, not just the people who sell the games. I feel good about it, so all is well for me I guess.
What is wrong with burning books? Most literature is shit anyways, and should be burned.
i'm sorry
what
When is the last time you browsed a Barnes and Noble?
Ohhhh noooo they're burning My Boyfriend is Such a Bitch Volume 2 and Keep Smiling: The Garey Busey Story and How to Draw Erotic Manga and A Coffee Table Collection of Castle Pictures You Can Find At Higher Resolution on Google Image Search, ohhhhh nooooo
I think it's a bit much to say most literature should be burned, and yeah, there are a lot of books that could go to a good home, but I still think the bigger tragedy is the wasted paper and not the loss of literature. Do you cringe every time you delete a Word document because there are slightly less words in the world?
What is wrong with burning books? Most literature is shit anyways, and should be burned.
i'm sorry
what
When is the last time you browsed a Barnes and Noble?
Ohhhh noooo they're burning My Boyfriend is Such a Bitch Volume 2 and Keep Smiling: The Garey Busey Story and How to Draw Erotic Manga and A Coffee Table Collection of Castle Pictures You Can Find At Higher Resolution on Google Image Search, ohhhhh nooooo
I think it's a bit much to say most literature should be burned, and yeah, there are a lot of books that could go to a good home, but I still think the bigger tragedy is the wasted paper and not the loss of literature. Do you cringe every time you delete a Word document because there are slightly less words in the world?
It isn't like Barnes and Noble is full of Moby Dick and The Iliad, the majority of books aren't important.
It doesn't save enough money to make a difference, frankly. It's like the super market; the 1.20 can of peas, or the .80 can of peas.
Yes we're talking dollars and not cents, but really, a $10 difference doesn't make me go "Fuck yes, used games!" It makes me go, "Well shit I may as well buy new."
And to the people who've argued "I don't care about the case / manual" - uh, good for you, but some people do. Gamestop may be doing you a favor, but they're not doing other people a favor. If the box / manual are included, you still have the option of throwing them away. Everybody wins!
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What is with the box and manual fetish? Is it a collection thing or just a completionist thing? Like you have to have all the pieces? I don't think I have looked in a game manual since I was 12 on my way back him, giddy with anticipation to play Star Fox 64. Oh and the Starcraft manual, the game manual that takes shits on lesser manuals. Terran box was so op.
And to the people who've argued "I don't care about the case / manual" - uh, good for you, but some people do. Gamestop may be doing you a favor, but they're not doing other people a favor. If the box / manual are included, you still have the option of throwing them away. Everybody wins!
For the record, having just skype'd with the wife who is currently at work at Gamestop. She has no clue what this new policy even is. The closest thing it resembles is that Gamestop is no longer making those crappy cases with their stock image with the game title on it to put game into on the shelves, because people just throw them away anyway, so it's a waste.
What is with the box and manual fetish? Is it a collection thing or just a completionist thing? Like you have to have all the pieces? I don't think I have looked in a game manual since I was 12 on my way back him, giddy with anticipation to play Star Fox 64. Oh and the Starcraft manual, the game manual that takes shits on lesser manuals. Terran box was so op.
I'm with the "waste of paper" crew in terms of destroying books; not the stories. The stories are out there... elsewhere. They are destroying extra stock; not content. More copies can be made, and frankly they are destroying them because they made more copies than the market can sustain in the first place. And they are not being burned for specific reasons such as religious content, etc, it's just "thinning the herd" in terms of units.
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"Book burning" has a popular social context, so that's why people get a little touchy about it.
You guys might want to pick your metaphors a little better. :P
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And to the people who've argued "I don't care about the case / manual" - uh, good for you, but some people do. Gamestop may be doing you a favor, but they're not doing other people a favor. If the box / manual are included, you still have the option of throwing them away. Everybody wins!
For the record, having just skype'd with the wife who is currently at work at Gamestop. She has no clue what this new policy even is. The closest thing it resembles is that Gamestop is no longer making those crappy cases with their stock image with the game title on it to put game into on the shelves, because people just throw them away anyway, so it's a waste.
Is that what we're actually "talking" about here?
Probably. And it may be that in really tiny stores (Prudential Center and the like) that they are going to destroy cases on DS games to save their tiny amount of shelf space.
It doesn't save enough money to make a difference, frankly. It's like the super market; the 1.20 can of peas, or the .80 can of peas.
Yes we're talking dollars and not cents, but really, a $10 difference doesn't make me go "Fuck yes, used games!" It makes me go, "Well shit I may as well buy new."
And to the people who've argued "I don't care about the case / manual" - uh, good for you, but some people do. Gamestop may be doing you a favor, but they're not doing other people a favor. If the box / manual are included, you still have the option of throwing them away. Everybody wins!
on a university budget, $10 is enough to make me want to buy used. The fact that MvC3 cost me $15 to purchase after trading in Dead Space 2, and enabled me to play a game that I otherwise would not have had the means to afford and would've never played.
People can say what they want about the used market because hey, sometimes trade in values are silly, and yeah, the money no longer goes to the developer, but sometimes it's a good way to buy games. The same way that sometimes Goozex is a good way to get games too, and the developers sure aren't seeing any more money from that front either. Sometimes, it's the only way I'm going to get around to playing a lot of games, because I don't have the means to do it otherwise. I love supporting developers, and there are games that I buy new because at the time I can afford it. But this white knighting holy trip about how buying used games is evil because the money is going to gamestop instead of the developers is crap, and this weird leper'ing of the people who do it is even sillier.
Yeah it might only be a $0.40 saving on the can of peas, and if I can afford it, I'll spring for the $1.20 can. But sometimes I going to buy the $0.80 can, because hey, it's $0.40 cheaper, and that's still money.
It doesn't save enough money to make a difference, frankly. It's like the super market; the 1.20 can of peas, or the .80 can of peas.
Yes we're talking dollars and not cents, but really, a $10 difference doesn't make me go "Fuck yes, used games!" It makes me go, "Well shit I may as well buy new."
And to the people who've argued "I don't care about the case / manual" - uh, good for you, but some people do. Gamestop may be doing you a favor, but they're not doing other people a favor. If the box / manual are included, you still have the option of throwing them away. Everybody wins!
on a university budget, $10 is enough to make me want to buy used. The fact that MvC3 cost me $15 to purchase after trading in Dead Space 2, and enabled me to play a game that I otherwise would not have had the means to afford and would've never played.
People can say what they want about the used market because hey, sometimes trade in values are silly, and yeah, the money no longer goes to the developer, but sometimes it's a good way to buy games. The same way that sometimes Goozex is a good way to get games too, and the developers sure aren't seeing any more money from that front either. Sometimes, it's the only way I'm going to get around to playing a lot of games, because I don't have the means to do it otherwise. I love supporting developers, and there are games that I buy new because at the time I can afford it. But this white knighting holy trip about how buying used games is evil because the money is going to gamestop instead of the developers is crap, and this weird leper'ing of the people who do it is even sillier.
Yeah it might only be a $0.40 saving on the can of peas, and if I can afford it, I'll spring for the $1.20 can. But sometimes I going to buy the $0.80 can, because hey, it's $0.40 cheaper, and that's still money.
I feel like I should add that word of mouth is the most powerful form of advertising. So while one person might be buying a product used, his influence could then have a positive impact on other potential purchases.
I use to be all about saving money, but now I will pay more for new because it supports the people who make the games, not just the people who sell the games. I feel good about it, so all is well for me I guess.
Buy used and then Paypal the actual developers some money?
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I just want to put in that:
1. The Gamestop here still has cases for the DS games, if the game was traded in with it in the first place. A lot of people don't, because they put them in a game holder or something.
2. GBA games are 99% of the time never traded in with the original cardboard box. No one keeps those things. They weren't really designed to store your game in like DS cases are.
I think the common gamer is the one to blame here.
But yeah, what I do hate is the practice of field destroying, and tons of companies do that. Seems like it's partially the fault of the government or something. They should make it more appealing in some way to donate that stuff, get a bigger tax write-off or something. I don't know how it all works, it's just annoying.
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I use to be all about saving money, but now I will pay more for new because it supports the people who make the games, not just the people who sell the games. I feel good about it, so all is well for me I guess.
Buy used and then Paypal the actual developers some money?
I have considered doing that actually, especially with Cave Story.
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So instead of you bearing the costs of something you value, you expect someone else motivated by profit to do so for you?
Also, do I need to post pictures of the holocaust and pictures of a video game manual in the trash to make it clear to you?
Finally, games are mostly disposable as a form of entertainment. There are a few examples like Civ, TF2, where I can play them again and again. I've used goozex a few times but still own the vast majority of games I've ever played. I also only buy 3-4 games a year because I don't have enough time to play more than that with the amount of other stuff going on in my life.
The idea that this is being done to ALL games of a certain platform on a mass level makes me horribly upset. Is this seriously hard to understand?
What I mean to say is that I don't really give a shit about what dumbass thing Gamestop does anymore because fuck them, I don't shop there anyway.
I'd like to see that as well.
In a perfect world...
Anyway, if a game is still available new, I seldom find the used price to be worth the difference. Five bucks? I'm not that hard up for cash...
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There's a picture of the roachy game if you dare.
This sentiment needs to stop.
As big of a fan as I am of video games, and by proxy the developers who make them, and me not being a fan of GS, even I can see the BS in this idea.
The truth of the matter is, by the time you go into any retail store (much less GS) to buy a game, before your money is in the register the developer already got paid.
Let me say that again.
The developer already got paid.
Retail stores buy pallets and pallets of these games if they're popular (maybe a couple boxes if they aren't) and disseminate a majority of them to their stores and regional storage. The rest gets thrown into their home storage, half for online orders, half to just keep in reserve. When stores get low on product, the managers at regional storage send them more, and request more from home storage.
At no point has there been a need for more new copies of a certain game, nor (typically) has there been any real profit made from used game sales due to the relative newness of it.
Due to this backstock mentality, if you really think that used game sales really damage a developers bottom dollar severely, you need to take a business class. Don't get me wrong, it does damage it... but we're talking in numbers closer to four digits, not six or seven.
Now, this backstock mentality does pose a problem to the idea of "Nobody pre-ordered, so we don't have em." response if talking about GS specifically. They do, they just don't have them there. But that's a whole other thing, about how you shouldn't be pissed off at the store that you walk into itself, but the people making the company charter. Guys at the store are just making a paycheck, knowahmsayin?
Destroying books at the end of the day was the only really terrible part of working at a bookstore. We'd kill thousands of books a week.
I don't think it is a problem with understanding that it makes you upset, I would (to put on a therapist hat here) venture to guess that the problem with understanding is in the motivation behind you being upset.
I.E. it makes it sound as if you are near obsessive over the subject, which others don't understand. Hollywood should be able to answer for me what happens with humans dealing with something they don't understand, right?
I don't know if I could handle that as part of a job. Even if they'd just end up as garbage anyway, the idea of destroying books just gives me the chills.
I used to work at a movie theater and we threw away giant garbage bags full of popcorn every night, I took one home once and it was 6 weeks worth of popcorn.
If movie theaters didn't throw away popcorn they could feed a starving family for 6 weeks.
Did you really just ask that?
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Yes, why the hell is there some stigma against burning/destroying books? I mean just look at how much food and other resources that the US throws away that people in other countries need to survive. Kind of stupid to get upset over some Star Wars EU novels getting thrown away.
To recap:
I don't like something, therefore, it should not exist.
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i'm sorry
what
I still shop at Gamestop even though I disagree with a lot of shit they do. But the trick is that I never, ever, ever buy used. I never trade-in. Buying new stuff still kicks them some amount of profit, but nowhere NEAR what they'd like. Oh and I also never reserve pre-orders with just a money-down; I buy the product upfront, again diminishing whatever profit they'd have on 'reserving'.
That is monumentally disgusting.
That stuff never goes bad, although I didn't eat it, I didn't eat popcorn for a while when I worked there.
because you know what
sometimes I like to save money
When is the last time you browsed a Barnes and Noble?
Ohhhh noooo they're burning My Boyfriend is Such a Bitch Volume 2 and Keep Smiling: The Garey Busey Story and How to Draw Erotic Manga and A Coffee Table Collection of Castle Pictures You Can Find At Higher Resolution on Google Image Search, ohhhhh nooooo
I think it's a bit much to say most literature should be burned, and yeah, there are a lot of books that could go to a good home, but I still think the bigger tragedy is the wasted paper and not the loss of literature. Do you cringe every time you delete a Word document because there are slightly less words in the world?
edit: Maybe I should have checked the following pages before posting. We're talking about burning books now... hmm.
Anyways back on topic, popcorn is delicious.
by no means suggests that they should be burned
It was funny, I laughed.
Also gamestop is now on military bases, but still charges taxes so they aren't apart AAFES...they are like an ambassador of capitalism.
It doesn't save enough money to make a difference, frankly. It's like the super market; the 1.20 can of peas, or the .80 can of peas.
Yes we're talking dollars and not cents, but really, a $10 difference doesn't make me go "Fuck yes, used games!" It makes me go, "Well shit I may as well buy new."
And to the people who've argued "I don't care about the case / manual" - uh, good for you, but some people do. Gamestop may be doing you a favor, but they're not doing other people a favor. If the box / manual are included, you still have the option of throwing them away. Everybody wins!
Except McDonalds and Burger King beat them to that punch years ago.
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Are they tax free? I thought burger king was apart of AAFES.
For the record, having just skype'd with the wife who is currently at work at Gamestop. She has no clue what this new policy even is. The closest thing it resembles is that Gamestop is no longer making those crappy cases with their stock image with the game title on it to put game into on the shelves, because people just throw them away anyway, so it's a waste.
Is that what we're actually "talking" about here?
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It's base specific. I know Kirtland AFB is one of few USAF bases that has a McDonalds instead, and they charged tax.
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You guys might want to pick your metaphors a little better. :P
Probably. And it may be that in really tiny stores (Prudential Center and the like) that they are going to destroy cases on DS games to save their tiny amount of shelf space.
on a university budget, $10 is enough to make me want to buy used. The fact that MvC3 cost me $15 to purchase after trading in Dead Space 2, and enabled me to play a game that I otherwise would not have had the means to afford and would've never played.
People can say what they want about the used market because hey, sometimes trade in values are silly, and yeah, the money no longer goes to the developer, but sometimes it's a good way to buy games. The same way that sometimes Goozex is a good way to get games too, and the developers sure aren't seeing any more money from that front either. Sometimes, it's the only way I'm going to get around to playing a lot of games, because I don't have the means to do it otherwise. I love supporting developers, and there are games that I buy new because at the time I can afford it. But this white knighting holy trip about how buying used games is evil because the money is going to gamestop instead of the developers is crap, and this weird leper'ing of the people who do it is even sillier.
Yeah it might only be a $0.40 saving on the can of peas, and if I can afford it, I'll spring for the $1.20 can. But sometimes I going to buy the $0.80 can, because hey, it's $0.40 cheaper, and that's still money.
I feel like I should add that word of mouth is the most powerful form of advertising. So while one person might be buying a product used, his influence could then have a positive impact on other potential purchases.
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Buy used and then Paypal the actual developers some money?
1. The Gamestop here still has cases for the DS games, if the game was traded in with it in the first place. A lot of people don't, because they put them in a game holder or something.
2. GBA games are 99% of the time never traded in with the original cardboard box. No one keeps those things. They weren't really designed to store your game in like DS cases are.
I think the common gamer is the one to blame here.
But yeah, what I do hate is the practice of field destroying, and tons of companies do that. Seems like it's partially the fault of the government or something. They should make it more appealing in some way to donate that stuff, get a bigger tax write-off or something. I don't know how it all works, it's just annoying.
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I have considered doing that actually, especially with Cave Story.