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Starcraft 2: PonyCraft 2 and a long PvT game on temple? Yes please!

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Serpico wrote: »
    All San had to do was put down 2 stargates at some point when he had 2 - 3 mining bases and get voidrays, and with Sc's terrible storm-micro he wouldn't have to worry about them dying to marines or vikings...

    except a marauder/medivac army is approximatley 100000x more mobile than a void ray army and all that would have happened is oh hey 8 stimmed marauder at each nexus whoops die immediately

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  • FrozenzenFrozenzen Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Just a few void rays should be able to change these games, pure marauders are pretty resilient against storms, but they haven't been taught to shoot up... yet.

    He could still have templars and stuff dhal, at least in earlier games san was floating some resources. It would have let him push planetaries at least, which is impossible otherwise. Always fun to see terrans denyiong expansions with small groups of 8 units while their own are unkillable with half an army :P.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    JAEF wrote: »
    oGsMC is going to shit all over these guys.

    over scfou? definitely

    over sanZenith? PvP is pretty volatile and I'm pretty sure sanZenith isn't retarded like HongUnPrime and knows that you can't use builds that die to 4gate in pvp.

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  • SeguerSeguer of the Void Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Oh hey sanZenith finally built a Void Ray.

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    JAEF wrote: »
    oGsMC is going to shit all over these guys.

    over scfou? definitely

    over sanZenith? PvP is pretty volatile and I'm pretty sure sanZenith isn't retarded like HongUnPrime and knows that you can't use builds that die to 4gate in pvp.
    San would have seen the build HongUn did on XNC too, which worked up until the point HongUn decided to give the game away at the end.

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  • SerpicoSerpico Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    Serpico wrote: »
    All San had to do was put down 2 stargates at some point when he had 2 - 3 mining bases and get voidrays, and with Sc's terrible storm-micro he wouldn't have to worry about them dying to marines or vikings...

    except a marauder/medivac army is approximatley 100000x more mobile than a void ray army and all that would have happened is oh hey 8 stimmed marauder at each nexus whoops die immediately
    Why wouldn't he play the game exactly like he did except with a few VRs with his main army? There's no reason why he couldn't use warpins like he did in the game while still having a huge advantage any time Sc attacked with his entire army.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    a few void rays might have worked

    making 2 stargates to pump out void rays is not a few void rays. every void ray is a templar and 2 chargelots worht of resources.

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  • LemmingLemming Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    815165 wrote: »
    Lemming wrote: »
    Haha, sanZenith mined out the top, right and 1/3 of the bottom, and he still got beat by a terran who was only on 1-2 bases at any given time. And sc mostly only made marauders. lol.
    There's some reasonable math out there supporting the idea that the game is designed around someone being on 3 mining bases at any one time in terms of effective production. So base disparity doesn't seem to be as big a factor in who's ahead as it would appear, especially with how cost effective Terran bio is supposed to be.

    Right, but 3 or more bases against 2 or less bases is a pretty big disparity, and it's always funny when you see how well terran can do on so few bases against the other races.

    But, again. He mined out those bases. And at the end of the game, he had run out of resources. That shows you how hilariously cost effect terran bio is, even when you micro horribly against storms.

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  • JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    If anything I'm lovin' all these boss feedbacks.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Despite scfOu's horrible micro vs storms, pure marauder army, and usually being 1 base down on san (except the fourth game), there have been a half dozen times in every single game tonight where san would have just straight up lost if Khaydarin Amulet had already been removed.

    I hope they see how retarded this change is. Yes, warping in templar that can do psi storm immediately is borderline too strong. But warping in templar at 50 energy is completely horrifically weak.

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  • FrozenzenFrozenzen Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    We can imagine once they remove khaydarin amulet they make bio a bit less cost effective.

    As if. This is just hilarious. SC with 2 mining bases and spamming scans is pushing San back consistently. If SC actually knew how to expand it would have been over a long time ago.

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  • JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    And yet zenith never makes colossi, if only to force a few vikings or defend his base on cliffs.

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  • LemmingLemming Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    ~20 SCV's vs ~50 probes? lol, terran is ahead :3

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Colossi are even less cost efficient than templars vs marauders. You need a fuckton of gas invested into sentries to keep this amount of marauders from just running up and killing every colossus you have in two seconds.

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  • JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I guess sentries are a waste if Terran isn't bothering to walk out of storms.

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    What a series.

    I can't even remember who else is playing after all that.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Summary of last game

    Protoss expands aggressively, secures a base advantage over Terran, constantly uses warp prism and proxy pylon harass through the entire game, with the deciding moment in the game being a clutch moment of storming the Terran's last mineral line and attacking with a single DT while furiously microing a final battle that could have been his death if he lost it.

    Terran builds marauders. 1 + t + a's everywhere. kills nexuses instantly. Occasionally gets a pretty good EMP off. At one point is down 20 scvs and 1 mining base to 50 probes and 2 mining bases.

    Terran nearly wins.

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  • Caveman PawsCaveman Paws Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Niiiiiiice. That must be a record for storm usage in a series.

    Is there more games or just interview?

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  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Khaydarin amulet should be changed or something...not removed. It being removed is completely retarded.

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  • JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    "You know what you could do during the break? Watch 4 minutes of 8 minute abs."

    Tastosis is the best fucking casting team. If you say otherwise I will be mildly upset.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    sanZenith would have lost 0-3 in those games without Khaydarin Amulet.

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  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I didn't watch the games but that sounds like a thing that could happen.

    I am honestly not sure why they went IT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED. The decision flabbergasts me.

    And I am saying this as a Terran.

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    Summary of last game

    Toss was amazing because that's the race I play

    Terran was terrible and even though he micro'd better than the previous games and actually had several points where good use of EMP won a battle I'll say he occasionally did well to down play his achievements for not playing the race I play.
    8-)

    edit: and for fairness' sake I'll admit I do the same thing any time it's a Z vs P/T

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  • JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    zenith handily outplayed sc and was still on his toes nearly every game. It was pretty shocking.

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    He was also a HT warp in away from losing at multiple points, the last two maps could have easily gone either way.

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  • peacekeeperpeacekeeper AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    and this is how toss players are when their race is winning

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  • MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    peacekeeper wrote: »
    and this is how toss players are when their race is winning

    Let's say in the next patch Medivac healing is removed.

    I'd imagine the amount of bitching from Terran would be about the same, really.

    EDIT: Or rather, to make things more accurate, they start with 0 energy, and so need to wait some time to be actually useful.

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Oh man. That first game sucked.

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  • SeguerSeguer of the Void Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Oh snap, that would be pretty good MechMantis.

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  • JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Oh hey I'll just make marauders like that last guy. Oh no void rayzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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  • MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    And to counter the "HT START WITH 50 ENERGY" keep in mind that heal converts 1 energy to 3 HP.

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  • SeguerSeguer of the Void Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Wait really?

    I should have known that.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    MechMantis wrote: »
    peacekeeper wrote: »
    and this is how toss players are when their race is winning

    Let's say in the next patch Medivac healing is removed.

    I'd imagine the amount of bitching from Terran would be about the same, really.

    EDIT: Or rather, to make things more accurate, they start with 0 energy, and so need to wait some time to be actually useful.

    actually, for any terran wondering why protoss are so up in arms about khaydarin amulet, imagine that your medivacs did start with 0 energy
    MechMantis wrote:
    And to counter the "HT START WITH 50 ENERGY" keep in mind that heal converts 1 energy to 3 HP.

    They also can't cast anything really useful with 50 energy. Feedback is a nice spell, but its very situational.

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  • peacekeeperpeacekeeper AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    dang they couldn't heal my mech then

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  • Walrus von ZeppelinWalrus von Zeppelin Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Regarding the khaydarin amulet I think incontrol had the best suggestion. He said they should just warp in with a short cooldown on the spell.

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  • MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Psistorm isn't that great against mech-heavy Terran anyway. :P

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Walrus von Zeppelin wrote: »
    Regarding the khaydarin amulet I think incontrol had the best suggestion. He said they should just warp in with a short cooldown on the spell.

    D:

    why didnt anyone else think of that yet

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  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    is gsl really still going or is gom lying to me? I just woke up, yesterday the vods were up already at this point

    don't want to join in now cause spoilers

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Variable wrote: »
    is gsl really still going or is gom lying to me? I just woke up, yesterday the vods were up already at this point

    don't want to join in now cause spoilers

    yeah its sitll going

    San vs Sc took nearly 2.5 hours

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  • JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    GSL ended in a fucking hour last night because code A Ro8 is Bo3s and both players got stomped.

    These are some longass back and forth Bo5 matches. It's still going.

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