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[Comics News] IV: The Voyage Home

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  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Gank wrote: »
    Definitely glad I joined up. I'd been on there all of two hours following many people and Dan Abnett goes and welcomes me to Twitter.

    Me too!

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  • CadeCade Eppur si muove.Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Tom Brevoort now totally thinks 20 pages for $3 is a good idea. Months ago it was stealing food from creators mouths to lose two pages a month, now it's just fine because it helps with scheduling. He does say that there may be more 21 page $4 books too, hooray!

    Is it me or does Brevoort seem to be slowly going off the deep end as time goes on.

    Cade on
  • Futt BuckerFutt Bucker CTRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    So, hey, remember Holy Terror, Batman?

    Guess what.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    CBR actually had a nice article up on the 15 most late books in the industry

    DC couldn't even get out a GL movie prequel issue that's going to now come out in August, that's just whack, yo.

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  • GankGank Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    TexiKen wrote: »
    CBR actually had a nice article up on the 15 most late books in the industry

    DC couldn't even get out a GL movie prequel issue that's going to now come out in August, that's just whack, yo.

    Man, I remember getting the first two issues of Wildsiderz too. That delay is fucking ridiculous.

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    TexiKen wrote: »
    CBR actually had a nice article up on the 15 most late books in the industry

    DC couldn't even get out a GL movie prequel issue that's going to now come out in August, that's just whack, yo.

    It'll be out in time for the DVD.

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  • CadeCade Eppur si muove.Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I've been reading a lot of Jim Shooters thoughts on matter lately, he has his own blog and lots of good stuff here from the whole Dark Phoenix thing, to how people were trying to rob Marvel inside via one scheme or another and various other things, he touches on how he began when he was 14 and how the guy who hired him was a huge ass hole who basically told him he only kept him on to help keep his family from being in the gutter etc.

    Lots of good stuff, so yeah if you ever heard about Jim Shooter I really suggest you take a look, reading his stuff you get the feeling that a lot of the ill will towards him is quite wrong, don't believe he is lying about anything either since he seems pretty honest and a bit bitter how despite all the things he did he's regarded the way he is. Seen a few people like that before and he seems like one of those people.

    http://www.jimshooter.com/

    Cade on
  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I have read a few of those, and they are incredible.

    I doubt I would spend that much time with a blog overall, but if he eventually publishes it as a book or something, I would probably pick it up.

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  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Cade wrote: »
    I've been reading a lot of Jim Shooters thoughts on matter lately, he has his own blog and lots of good stuff here from the whole Dark Phoenix thing, to how people were trying to rob Marvel inside via one scheme or another and various other things, he touches on how he began when he was 14 and how the guy who hired him was a huge ass hole who basically told him he only kept him on to help keep his family from being in the gutter etc.

    Lots of good stuff, so yeah if you ever heard about Jim Shooter I really suggest you take a look, reading his stuff you get the feeling that a lot of the ill will towards him is quite wrong, don't believe he is lying about anything either since he seems pretty honest and a bit bitter how despite all the things he did he's regarded the way he is. Seen a few people like that before and he seems like one of those people.

    http://www.jimshooter.com/

    On the other hand, Shooter's recollection of events usually differs from how other creators remember it (or, in the case of the Dark Phoenix Saga, how Shooter himself recounted the story in the"Phoenix: The Untold Story" published special in the 80s). For example:

    http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39001&PN=1&totPosts=199

    Shooter has written some stories I really loved (his original LoSH stuff, some of his Avengers run, a lot of his Valiant work), but the guy made it a point to completely fuck over some of the larger creators of the 80s (Example - Byrne's FF run was cut short of issue #300 because Shooter wouldn't let him do both that book and the Superman reboot, even though Byrne had gotten the OK to do both from Marvel's publisher).

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Jim Shooter: Always the most controversial Marvel editor. Always. Forever. Every day. All the time. Constantly.

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  • DMACDMAC Come at me, bro! Moderator mod
    edited July 2011
    Man, I like J. Scott Campbell's work but Wildsiderz was such an obvious toy/video game/animated series pitch in comic book form.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    Jim Shooter: Always the most controversial Marvel editor. Always. Forever. Every day. All the time. Constantly.

    Has anyone ever interviewed him about the whole Ms. Marvel thing? It'd be interesting to see how he tries to rationalize that storyline.

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Oh, Wikipedia
    However, contrary to these accusations of bias, Shooter also wrote a story wherein the (male) character Thor was similarly sexually coerced by the (female) telepath Moondragon.[13]


    Anyway, no, not to my knowledge. I can't imagine what he'd say. It's not like this thirty year after the fact "Hank only pushed Jan" shit.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    How exactly is that contrary to anything?

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    The Ms Marvel thing is a real shame because honestly it was one story out of many but it has completely coloured her character ever since. And that's not the only way that Ms Marvel has kind of been poorly used in ways that have then stuck with her ever since.

    Solar on
  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I hate to say this, but I wish that people would just pretend it never happened and move on. And I only say this because she is a fictional character, and a b-list one (at best) at that. People seem so hung up on that story that I don't see any real chance of someone going to the effort of exploring new ground.

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  • CadeCade Eppur si muove.Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Cade wrote: »
    I've been reading a lot of Jim Shooters thoughts on matter lately, he has his own blog and lots of good stuff here from the whole Dark Phoenix thing, to how people were trying to rob Marvel inside via one scheme or another and various other things, he touches on how he began when he was 14 and how the guy who hired him was a huge ass hole who basically told him he only kept him on to help keep his family from being in the gutter etc.

    Lots of good stuff, so yeah if you ever heard about Jim Shooter I really suggest you take a look, reading his stuff you get the feeling that a lot of the ill will towards him is quite wrong, don't believe he is lying about anything either since he seems pretty honest and a bit bitter how despite all the things he did he's regarded the way he is. Seen a few people like that before and he seems like one of those people.

    http://www.jimshooter.com/

    On the other hand, Shooter's recollection of events usually differs from how other creators remember it (or, in the case of the Dark Phoenix Saga, how Shooter himself recounted the story in the"Phoenix: The Untold Story" published special in the 80s). For example:

    http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39001&PN=1&totPosts=199

    Shooter has written some stories I really loved (his original LoSH stuff, some of his Avengers run, a lot of his Valiant work), but the guy made it a point to completely fuck over some of the larger creators of the 80s (Example - Byrne's FF run was cut short of issue #300 because Shooter wouldn't let him do both that book and the Superman reboot, even though Byrne had gotten the OK to do both from Marvel's publisher).

    When it comes to those two men I tend to believe Shooter however it wouldn't surprise me if a mix up or two did happen or neither man knew of some details that happened which lead to issues. I read one of Shooters blog entries the other day where he told a story and another person from the time made a reply telling a few more bits of the story that Shooter himself was not even privy too which cleared up what happened since everyone seemed a bit confused on the subject on why one person did what he did. Plus he's willing to admit when he's wrong doesn't hurt.

    As for Ms. Marvel, is that the alcohol thing? If you look at Shooters bog and ask him he might respond and tell you, he's done so to more then a few people that asked questions and made some blog entries for the answer.

    Hell he even told about the whole Pym hitting Janet thing and how it wasn't even suppose to be him actually hitting her on purpose but the artist misread what was said. Go figure.

    Cade on
  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Cade wrote: »
    Cade wrote: »
    I've been reading a lot of Jim Shooters thoughts on matter lately, he has his own blog and lots of good stuff here from the whole Dark Phoenix thing, to how people were trying to rob Marvel inside via one scheme or another and various other things, he touches on how he began when he was 14 and how the guy who hired him was a huge ass hole who basically told him he only kept him on to help keep his family from being in the gutter etc.

    Lots of good stuff, so yeah if you ever heard about Jim Shooter I really suggest you take a look, reading his stuff you get the feeling that a lot of the ill will towards him is quite wrong, don't believe he is lying about anything either since he seems pretty honest and a bit bitter how despite all the things he did he's regarded the way he is. Seen a few people like that before and he seems like one of those people.

    http://www.jimshooter.com/

    On the other hand, Shooter's recollection of events usually differs from how other creators remember it (or, in the case of the Dark Phoenix Saga, how Shooter himself recounted the story in the"Phoenix: The Untold Story" published special in the 80s). For example:

    http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39001&PN=1&totPosts=199

    Shooter has written some stories I really loved (his original LoSH stuff, some of his Avengers run, a lot of his Valiant work), but the guy made it a point to completely fuck over some of the larger creators of the 80s (Example - Byrne's FF run was cut short of issue #300 because Shooter wouldn't let him do both that book and the Superman reboot, even though Byrne had gotten the OK to do both from Marvel's publisher).

    When it comes to those two men I tend to believe Shooter however it wouldn't surprise me if a mix up or two did happen or neither man knew of some details that happened which lead to issues. I read one of Shooters blog entries the other day where he told a story and another person from the time made a reply telling a few more bits of the story that Shooter himself was not even privy too which cleared up what happened since everyone seemed a bit confused on the subject on why one person did what he did. Plus he's willing to admit when he's wrong doesn't hurt.

    As for Ms. Marvel, is that the alcohol thing? If you look at Shooters bog and ask him he might respond and tell you, he's done so to more then a few people that asked questions and made some blog entries for the answer.

    Hell he even told about the whole Pym hitting Janet thing and how it wasn't even suppose to be him actually hitting her on purpose but the artist misread what was said. Go figure.

    The difference, though, is that Byrne's version hasn't changed in 30 years, but Shooter's version of events has changed many times. I'm inclined to believe the guy who maintains the same story.

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Cade wrote: »
    As for Ms. Marvel, is that the alcohol thing?
    No. It's about the rape thing.

    The alcoholism didn't come until after that, after Claremont brought her back and was pretty much the only person who got to play with her by how he used her in Uncanny for a decade until he left in 1991, and after she burned out her Binary powers in Operation: Galactic Storm to keep the sun from exploding.
    Hell he even told about the whole Pym hitting Janet thing and how it wasn't even suppose to be him actually hitting her on purpose but the artist misread what was said. Go figure.
    Eh. If it was supposed to be a shove, he could have gotten it fixed or gotten it explained away within a very short time. Not three decades later.

    Speaking of thievery, I don't recall many people having much fondness for Valiant and some of their business practices when he was captain of that ship.

    Anyway, I don't care. I just wish ... I don't know what anymore. I can't even recall what she actually did for much of her series' last 20 issues (post-SI) except "die." Of course, the entire fucking series was built around Reed screwing with her powers. Because Claremont doing it for twenty years, and Busiek et al. for another decade wasn't enough. Granted, I love those guys' work, but come on.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Also to be fair becoming an alcoholic after that entire fucking escapade was actually understandable.

    Solar on
  • MimMim I prefer my lovers… dead.Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I feel like putting a note in the OP: If you're really that interested in comics news, get on Twitter.

    I'm late, but I wanted to suggest a podcast that I thought some might enjoy (that I didn't see listed) : Sidebar

    I really love their interviews with comic/animation people both industry and independent.

    I'll go back to lurking now.

    Mim on
  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Cade wrote: »
    Cade wrote: »
    I've been reading a lot of Jim Shooters thoughts on matter lately, he has his own blog and lots of good stuff here from the whole Dark Phoenix thing, to how people were trying to rob Marvel inside via one scheme or another and various other things, he touches on how he began when he was 14 and how the guy who hired him was a huge ass hole who basically told him he only kept him on to help keep his family from being in the gutter etc.

    Lots of good stuff, so yeah if you ever heard about Jim Shooter I really suggest you take a look, reading his stuff you get the feeling that a lot of the ill will towards him is quite wrong, don't believe he is lying about anything either since he seems pretty honest and a bit bitter how despite all the things he did he's regarded the way he is. Seen a few people like that before and he seems like one of those people.

    http://www.jimshooter.com/

    On the other hand, Shooter's recollection of events usually differs from how other creators remember it (or, in the case of the Dark Phoenix Saga, how Shooter himself recounted the story in the"Phoenix: The Untold Story" published special in the 80s). For example:

    http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39001&PN=1&totPosts=199

    Shooter has written some stories I really loved (his original LoSH stuff, some of his Avengers run, a lot of his Valiant work), but the guy made it a point to completely fuck over some of the larger creators of the 80s (Example - Byrne's FF run was cut short of issue #300 because Shooter wouldn't let him do both that book and the Superman reboot, even though Byrne had gotten the OK to do both from Marvel's publisher).

    When it comes to those two men I tend to believe Shooter however it wouldn't surprise me if a mix up or two did happen or neither man knew of some details that happened which lead to issues. I read one of Shooters blog entries the other day where he told a story and another person from the time made a reply telling a few more bits of the story that Shooter himself was not even privy too which cleared up what happened since everyone seemed a bit confused on the subject on why one person did what he did. Plus he's willing to admit when he's wrong doesn't hurt.

    As for Ms. Marvel, is that the alcohol thing? If you look at Shooters bog and ask him he might respond and tell you, he's done so to more then a few people that asked questions and made some blog entries for the answer.

    Hell he even told about the whole Pym hitting Janet thing and how it wasn't even suppose to be him actually hitting her on purpose but the artist misread what was said. Go figure.

    The difference, though, is that Byrne's version hasn't changed in 30 years, but Shooter's version of events has changed many times. I'm inclined to believe the guy who maintains the same story.

    I'm inclined to believe Byrne with regards to that incident, but Shooter is pretty believable in his other stories. He said it himself, he was the boss at Marvel. This entry about people saying he screwed over creators is what I'm inclined to believe because he had to look out for the whole ship, not just being nice to creators (which, the way they act today, many seem to think anything other than being coddled is siberian work camp conditions).

    The guy isn't innocent, yet the way he speaks on a lot of things is done so bluntly, so without fear of stepping on others toes that it lends credibility. I mean, what really sold me on Shooter was a Newsarama interview near the end of his Legion threeboot run where he flat out tells the interviewer that Francis Manapul has some problems with his art and needed to be faster, but with the right corrections in terms of layouts he'll become a superstar. And he has, and you look at his Legion work with his Flash or Adventure Comics, and it looks like Shooter was right.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Big Grant Morrison interview transcribed that touches on a lot of things including his new book Supergods, where Morrison claims Seaguy is his Watchmen (I say it's All-Star Superman), and this interesting line about Mark Millar:
    Bobsy: Your personal relationships with other comics professionals are an aspect of the book. I know it’s not what the book’s about, but our listeners are going to be intrigued by that aspect, if you don’t mind going there.

    It seems like a massive reversal of cosmic justice that you’re writing a memoir and Mark Millar appears to be able to walk into any room and make a film whenever he wants to. Do you feel that there’s a tension still between you guys there?


    Grant: There’s a tension between us based on past history, but not… what you say isn’t necessarily true, I don’t want to say bad things about people like Mark and anyone but yeah, Kick Ass was made, Wanted was made, there are no other films any more made than say Joe The Barbarian and We3 which are all in the same state of production with directors attached, with screenplays… Hollywood doesn’t work that way, you can’t walk in a room, and he doesn’t… you know I live in Hollywood, I live there four months of the year and I know what goes on, there aren’t 200 million dollars films being made, it’s not – what can I say… I don’t really want to say… I don’t want to come out against somebody who will see it as an attack, it’s all too easy to do.

    Mark has had to make a certain smokescreen of himself, to look a certain way, you know. Look at sales of Ultimates Comics Ultimates Vs Ultimate Avengers… that’s what it’s all about right now… I wish him well but, no, there is no good feeling between myself and Mark Millar for many reasons most of which are he destroyed my faith in human fucking nature.



    Bobsy: Oh, dear! Hopefully you’ve built it back up again since.

    Grant: I dunno, obviously there’s some good stuff out there, but no a lot of things roundabout the start of the decade were quite brutal wake up calls for little Mr Aquarius.

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I found this more interesting.
    Bobsy: Somebody else, whose name begins with M, who is mentioned in the book is Peter Milligan, and I think this is just a Mindless Ones thing, but we’ve taken it for granted that you had a maybe platonic, maybe not affair in the 90s. Can you elaborate? Were you dressed as a girl at the time? I know you’re both married now.

    Grant: Absolutely not. I’m sorry to ruin those images in your head.

    Bobsy: You haven’t. They’re still there, trust me!

    [LAUGHTER]

    Grant: I wasnae there. We were just mates. The whole thing was that fake gay shit of the 80s and 90s. That’s all it was. We were just two straight working class dockers… I don’t know about him, he lived in London and it was a nice hedonistic time… but me certainly not. I like dressing up, but beyond that I was totally, er… I was just weird.
    I really need to get Morrison's book. There's something so unbelievably crazy about the way his mind works. Ordinarily I'd think it was shtick, if he weren't so sincere about all his nutty behavior and ideas.

    Munch on
  • IndiIndi Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Cade wrote: »
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Tom Brevoort now totally thinks 20 pages for $3 is a good idea. Months ago it was stealing food from creators mouths to lose two pages a month, now it's just fine because it helps with scheduling. He does say that there may be more 21 page $4 books too, hooray!

    Is it me or does Brevoort seem to be slowly going off the deep end as time goes on.

    Maybe the radioactive fan bullshit he has to sift through in his Formspring page is finally getting to him.

    Indi on
  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Big Grant Morrison interview transcribed that touches on a lot of things including his new book Supergods, where Morrison claims Seaguy is his Watchmen (I say it's All-Star Superman), and this interesting line about Mark Millar:

    Just hearing him mention that he has breakdowns for the last two issues of Seaguy has made my otherwise depressing day.

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  • LuxLux Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Big Grant Morrison interview transcribed that touches on a lot of things including his new book Supergods, where Morrison claims Seaguy is his Watchmen (I say it's All-Star Superman), and this interesting line about Mark Millar:

    Just hearing him mention that he has breakdowns for the last two issues of Seaguy has made my otherwise depressing day.

    Upon first reading, I interpreted that sentence as Morrison having nervous breakdowns as part of the writing process for the last two harrowing issues of Seaguy. And that excites you.

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    That interview makes Morrison sound like the most productive guy on the planet. I like the idea that he has Bendis levels of output, but half of it is unpublishable and another quarter of it are movie scripts that never see the light of day.

    So if we take it at face value
    -He has a bunch of little, odd series similar to his early work just sitting on the shelf, as well as some of his more personal stuff and some of his lost projects
    -He's been writing movie scripts for ten years regularly, but almost none of them have seen the light of day.
    -All of multiversity is written and sitting on a shelf somewhere.
    -He has a Flash movie script that he wrote in his spare time and pitched that he wants to turn into Flash: Earth One.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I wonder if he'll ever go into self-publishing some of the stuff he can't sell.

    Does he have an exclusive contract with DC that would prevent that?

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    This is a magical story.
    Anyhow, so Grant’s this sort of freelance witchdoctor and, it turns out, one of his clients is pop megastar Robbie Williams. Grant suggests to Robbie that what his new album really needs is its own set of tarot cards and recommends his long term collaborator, the immensely talented Frank Quitely, as artist and Robbie agrees. I should perhaps point out at this juncture that Frank’s name is a pseudonym – a jokey inversion of “quite frankly”. This may seem obvious to you but you won’t believe how many people, especially Americans, still think it’s his real name.

    The special edition of cards drawn and printed, the album finished, Grant and Frank are invited down to a special VIP invite-only intimate premiere of the new songs at a Soho night club that Robbie’s hired for the night and our two heroes and their partners travel down from Glasgow to attend. After checking into their hotel, they head over to the club and it’s at this point that Grant gobs a tab of acid and offers one to Frank. Frank’s a little nervous, as he’s never taken it before, but necks one anyway.

    As they walk through London, his trepidation at the impending trip increases to such a state that, as they pass an off licence, he rushes in and buys a bottle of vodka to calm his nerves. By the time they reach the club he’s all but finished the bottle and is as drunk as an Alabama skunk. They descend into the darkened venue with its mirrored walls, all of which are plastered with printouts of Frank’s tarot artwork. Then the acid kicks in.

    To Grant, being a self professed veteran acid-head, it’s a source of mild amusement. To LSD virgin Frank, especially in his inebriated state, it’s a nightmare from hell. He walks over to the nearest wall and, for half an hour, stares at himself in horror, reflected into a multitude by the mirrors and surrounded by images he’s produced, convinced that he’s somehow ended up inside his own head.

    Munch on
  • Magna InfernoMagna Inferno Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    omg <3 grant morrison.

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  • LuxLux Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Grant Morrison stories are always cool. Even ones about his dad; did you know he was a stone cold boss? Found this at fuckyeahgrantmorrison.tumblr.com
    Angered by the Clydebank blitz in 1940, the 16-year-old Morrison lied about his age and joined the army. He wanted to fight fascism, but in less than a week, he found little difference between this enemy and the bullying attitudes and practices within the British army. From then on Morrison’s war was fought on two fronts. Considered a difficult case, he was shunted from the Royal Scots Guards to the Black Watch, then on to the Parachute Regiment. During a visit by King George VI, the king politely asked him how he was being treated, to which the good soldier Morrison replied: ‘Terrible.’ He was sent to India on the first available troop ship.

    Morrison’s pacifism grew from his army experiences in India. During the Gandhi demonstrations in 1942, the troops were briefed that they would be facing women and children protestors. The 18-year-old asked what they would be expected to do if they refused to halt. ‘Open fire,’ was the curt answer. Walter promptly stood up and said he would be the first to open fire: he would personally shoot any soldier who turned their gun on a woman or a child, and he would then shoot the officer who gave the order. His feet scarcely touched the ground on the way to the glasshouse.

    Morrison was placed in solitary confinement and singled out for sadistic treatment. He told his superiors that unless the NCO responsible backed off, he would kill the next man who entered his cell. Morrison won the case but was wracked with guilt over the moral quandary that he would have had to kill the first person — friend or enemy — who entered his cell. It was that incident which started him on his lifelong commitment to non-violence.

    http://libcom.org/history/morrison-walter-1924-2004

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I guess I'm one of the people who thought Frank Quitley was his real name, because it's not like it's any different from other creator names; I doubt Ralph Macchio changed his name to work in comics because people would hire him thinking he was the Karate Kid.

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I don't know why, but I find that Morrison/Quitely story rather plain and dull.

    It sounds like it happened since so many of the pieces add up, but I would've pegged Quitely as someone who had used LSD a handful of times before then.

    Now, Morrison's dad being a pacifist social activist? That is just awesome.

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  • GankGank Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Munch wrote: »
    This is a magical story.
    Anyhow, so Grant’s this sort of freelance witchdoctor and, it turns out, one of his clients is pop megastar Robbie Williams. Grant suggests to Robbie that what his new album really needs is its own set of tarot cards and recommends his long term collaborator, the immensely talented Frank Quitely, as artist and Robbie agrees. I should perhaps point out at this juncture that Frank’s name is a pseudonym – a jokey inversion of “quite frankly”. This may seem obvious to you but you won’t believe how many people, especially Americans, still think it’s his real name.

    The special edition of cards drawn and printed, the album finished, Grant and Frank are invited down to a special VIP invite-only intimate premiere of the new songs at a Soho night club that Robbie’s hired for the night and our two heroes and their partners travel down from Glasgow to attend. After checking into their hotel, they head over to the club and it’s at this point that Grant gobs a tab of acid and offers one to Frank. Frank’s a little nervous, as he’s never taken it before, but necks one anyway.

    As they walk through London, his trepidation at the impending trip increases to such a state that, as they pass an off licence, he rushes in and buys a bottle of vodka to calm his nerves. By the time they reach the club he’s all but finished the bottle and is as drunk as an Alabama skunk. They descend into the darkened venue with its mirrored walls, all of which are plastered with printouts of Frank’s tarot artwork. Then the acid kicks in.

    To Grant, being a self professed veteran acid-head, it’s a source of mild amusement. To LSD virgin Frank, especially in his inebriated state, it’s a nightmare from hell. He walks over to the nearest wall and, for half an hour, stares at himself in horror, reflected into a multitude by the mirrors and surrounded by images he’s produced, convinced that he’s somehow ended up inside his own head.

    That story is fucking gold. Morrison just went up a whole mess of points in my book. And I always thought Frank Quitely was a lucky bastard for having such a suave name, like Dirk Gently or Johnny Dangerously. Which is hindsight should have been a sign...

    Gank on
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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    this morrison stuff is great
    thanks for sharing it, munch and friends

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Mim wrote: »
    I'm late, but I wanted to suggest a podcast that I thought some might enjoy (that I didn't see listed) : Sidebar
    Added.

    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    That interview makes Morrison sound like the most productive guy on the planet. I like the idea that he has Bendis levels of output, but half of it is unpublishable and another quarter of it are movie scripts that never see the light of day.

    So if we take it at face value
    -He has a bunch of little, odd series similar to his early work just sitting on the shelf, as well as some of his more personal stuff and some of his lost projects
    -He's been writing movie scripts for ten years regularly, but almost none of them have seen the light of day.
    -All of multiversity is written and sitting on a shelf somewhere.
    -He has a Flash movie script that he wrote in his spare time and pitched that he wants to turn into Flash: Earth One.
    He also has an idea at least for Wonder Woman that would probably be equivalent to an Earth One story.


    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    Now, Morrison's dad being a pacifist social activist? That is just awesome.
    Yeah, in Talking With Gods Grant describes how his dad would take him to basically infiltrate British military sites for his pacifist stuff. Kids are good at distraction and getting into places you're generally not allowed, but the way he describes it definitely had a messed-up affect on Grant and colored his own view of the world very significantly.

    In other news, of course there is a fuckyeahgrantmorrison tumblr and how did I not think to look for it?

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Oh hey whats up guys how're comics do-
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    OH GOD TAKE ME NOW MARVEL

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  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    now relaunch Ghost Rider too

    do it, Marvel

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