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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    so it got pushed aside because of the minion change post but does anyone know why I would be accused of being a smurf on a 3v3 game as Kat where I did alright, not great, not terrible that we won? Apparently in the post game chat after I left the screen they said "yeah right, a lv 10 with 19 wins." The hell does that even mean?

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  • undeinPiratundeinPirat Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    so it got pushed aside because of the minion change post but does anyone know why I would be accused of being a smurf on a 3v3 game as Kat where I did alright, not great, not terrible that we won? Apparently in the post game chat after I left the screen they said "yeah right, a lv 10 with 19 wins." The hell does that even mean?

    they mad

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    As someone already said, just really need a test server. I'm amazed Riot's doing well right now, they're run so damn unprofessionally.

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  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    so it got pushed aside because of the minion change post but does anyone know why I would be accused of being a smurf on a 3v3 game as Kat where I did alright, not great, not terrible that we won? Apparently in the post game chat after I left the screen they said "yeah right, a lv 10 with 19 wins." The hell does that even mean?

    Take it as a compliment :) It means that they were pissed off enough at you and you performed well enough that they figured you had to have hundreds of games worth of experience with the game.

    Alternatively they are trying to lessen the sting of their loss but attributing it to something outside their control.

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  • MonkeyConQuesoMonkeyConQueso No more MH Claw Happy handsRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    so it got pushed aside because of the minion change post but does anyone know why I would be accused of being a smurf on a 3v3 game as Kat where I did alright, not great, not terrible that we won? Apparently in the post game chat after I left the screen they said "yeah right, a lv 10 with 19 wins." The hell does that even mean?

    It means people are super jelly of your mad skillz.

    Who cares, people say things all the damn time in this game that have no bearing on the reality of it.

    E: ^^ What they said.

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  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    As someone already said, just really need a test server. I'm amazed their doing well right now, they're run so damn unprofessionally.

    They do have a test server, the problem is they limit the people who can utilize it which doesn't give them enough of a sample size to really get any meaningful data. They need to open it up to whoever wants to test on it and they'll get much better results.

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  • AsiinaAsiina ... WaterlooRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    It means they were raging. People rage in this game. It is a thing that happens.

    One time there was a tryndamere who talked shit through the entire game. When our tank built a thornmail he lost his shit about it. So we all built thornmails. Even though it was a bunch of random people we all collectively decided "Hey. Fuck this guy."

    So he raged about us being premade and how we somehow cheated our way into solo queue.

    Some people are just weird and they come up with weird reasons to justify their rage.

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    People try to hate on me because they see me engaged in rotational activity

    but they just filled with animosity i pay them no heed yo

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  • Feels Good ManFeels Good Man Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    lemme know when this change goes live, not gonna play til then because the game is not fun

    I haven't played much while this change has been active so I have no idea, but what is so not fun about it? All i've noticed is turrets go down faster. To be honest I've kind of enjoyed it.

    In short it is a change to the game that forces people to alter how they played before and puts more emphasis on individual fights and laning in comparison to teamfights.

    Basically enough people QQ'd and riot is changing it again instead of people embracing the change and giving it a shot.

    Change is bad blah blah blah. :v:


    this post is so sycophantically terrible I have the taste of poop in my mouth right now

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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Yeah I think I was just more confused by them calling out my lv versus my wins. I was trying to figure out if 19 wins at lv 10 was really low or high and I was just confusing myself.

    Maybe they just got tired of me Killer instincts/Shunpo/ult murdering them all at once with the slow from rylai's so they assumed I was the one who knew what I was doing and took it out on me

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  • Feels Good ManFeels Good Man Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    for the first time ever I have encountered a cassieopeia that was good




    they still lost, cause they had cassieopeia

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  • Legen DairyLegen Dairy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    People try to hate on me because they see me engaged in rotational activity

    but they just filled with animosity i pay them no heed yo

    It's because you're always ridin' dirty.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Any time someone really starts raging I have this irresistible urge to troll them with all the trolling might I can muster.

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  • OremLKOremLK Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Yeah the minion change was not iterative enought

    It was FAR too drastic for one patch in a game like this

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  • ProbadProbad Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Asiina wrote: »
    It means they were raging. People rage in this game. It is a thing that happens.

    One time there was a tryndamere who talked shit through the entire game. When our tank built a thornmail he lost his shit about it. So we all built thornmails. Even though it was a bunch of random people we all collectively decided "Hey. Fuck this guy."

    So he raged about us being premade and how we somehow cheated our way into solo queue.

    Some people are just weird and they come up with weird reasons to justify their rage.

    Fuck that guy. Also, I'm going on break this week, so I might be back to carry you people sometime soon.

    Edit: Wasn't that the Master Yi? I might be mixing up douchebag encounters.

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  • OddfishOddfish On opposite weeks In odd numbered monthsRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I've never run into a Master Yi who wasn't a douche.

    Why is that?

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  • AsiinaAsiina ... WaterlooRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Probad wrote: »
    Asiina wrote: »
    It means they were raging. People rage in this game. It is a thing that happens.

    One time there was a tryndamere who talked shit through the entire game. When our tank built a thornmail he lost his shit about it. So we all built thornmails. Even though it was a bunch of random people we all collectively decided "Hey. Fuck this guy."

    So he raged about us being premade and how we somehow cheated our way into solo queue.

    Some people are just weird and they come up with weird reasons to justify their rage.

    Fuck that guy. Also, I'm going on break this week, so I might be back to carry you people sometime soon.

    Edit: Wasn't that the Master Yi? I might be mixing up douchebag encounters.

    Were you in that game? I can't remember since it's been almost an eon since you played with us.

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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    They're just scaling back the minion changes, which I think is justified. Better than denying that they went too far and stubbornly leaving them.

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  • shalmeloshalmelo sees no evil Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Oddfish wrote: »
    I've never run into a Master Yi who wasn't a douche.

    Why is that?


    Master Yi is the training wheels champ for LOL douchebags. Many of those players eventually graduate to playing Shaco.

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  • Toxic PickleToxic Pickle Thash grape! Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I think the change was too much of a dramatic sway. Personally, I don't mind the changes that were pushed out, but not everyone is adapting well to it (e: some are also taking advantage of it effectively) and it is affecting gameplay negatively.

    I don't see why Riot has to change things in large bursts, especially when they are just fucking guessing on the outcome. Lack of extensive testing, empirically or otherwise, really hurts their reputation every time they do something like this.

    So this.

    I can't recall how many times I said this about Blizzard back when I played World of Warcraft, but at least they had a test server that people could actually play and test things on. Even then however, there were so many times where I was like, "Okay I can see nerfing that... but why the hell wouldn't you just ease the numbers back a bit rather than chopping them in fucking half?"

    Same thing with Riot, only it's worse because they can't even properly test this shit. I like that they made minions more important in the games, but why not step up the changes gradually until things seem about right? Yes people are still going to complain, but there's a far, far lesser chance of actually ruining the game for 2 whole weeks until the next patch if you, y'know, do things gradually.

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  • BasilBasil Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    There's a stock comment about going full retard that's just aching to be made here.

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I always go full retard

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  • Fizban140Fizban140 Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2011
    I really don't think the changes are as drastic as people make them seem, push teams always pushed and yi always backdoored, nothing new here.

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  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Fizban140 wrote: »
    I really don't think the changes are as drastic as people make them seem, push teams always pushed and yi always backdoored, nothing new here.

    They aren't :) Melodrama is just fun.

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  • Toxic PickleToxic Pickle Thash grape! Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Oddfish wrote: »
    I've never run into a Master Yi who wasn't a douche.

    Why is that?

    I would lime this, but I think I've used my allotment for the day. Somehow Master Yi players are always douchebags.

    I've even been playing Master Yi, and had a Master Yi on the enemy team who went out of his way to be a douchebag, calling me a noob and generally insulting me in /all because I had to retreat in a 1v1 fight we were having when he had 3 minions also hitting me.

    It was so satisfying every time I killed him later in the game though. :P

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  • Fizban140Fizban140 Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2011
    Fizban140 wrote: »
    I really don't think the changes are as drastic as people make them seem, push teams always pushed and yi always backdoored, nothing new here.

    They aren't :) Melodrama is just fun.

    What were the exact changes? Minions take less damage, cannon minions more frequent after 20 and more damage?

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    The significant change was

    minions deal +50% damage to towers

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  • MonkeyConQuesoMonkeyConQueso No more MH Claw Happy handsRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Fizban140 wrote: »
    Fizban140 wrote: »
    I really don't think the changes are as drastic as people make them seem, push teams always pushed and yi always backdoored, nothing new here.

    They aren't :) Melodrama is just fun.

    What were the exact changes? Minions take less damage, cannon minions more frequent after 20 and more damage?

    Minions:
    Melee minion magic resist now increases 1.25 per 3 minutes (up from 0.5)
    Ranged minion armor now increases 1.25 per 3 minutes (up from 0.5)
    Cannon minion armor and magic resist now increase 3 per 3 minutes (up from 2)
    After 20 minutes, cannon minions now spawn every 2 waves (up from every 3 waves)
    Cannon minions and super minions now reduce turret damage by 65% (up from 50%)
    Fixed a tooltip bug "This unit receive..." with cannon minions and super minions
    Minions now deal about 50% more damage to turrets

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  • Toxic PickleToxic Pickle Thash grape! Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I'd say the changes were quite significant and game-altering, though I don't think they quite hit the level of game-breaking. At least, I don't feel like the game has become un-fun and worth quitting over until changes are reverted.

    For me, the fact that they make these huge sweeping changes at all without proper testing is what induces rage. There's just no reason for such massive increases to take place at one time, especially when Riot doesn't actually know what effect it's going to have on the game.

    The changes to IP gain are another very recent example.

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  • TyrantCowTyrantCow Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I'd say the changes were quite significant and game-altering, though I don't think they quite hit the level of game-breaking. At least, I don't feel like the game has become un-fun and worth quitting over until changes are reverted.

    For me, the fact that they make these huge sweeping changes at all without proper testing is what induces rage. There's just no reason for such massive increases to take place at one time, especially when Riot doesn't actually know what effect it's going to have on the game.

    The changes to IP gain are another very recent example.

    i'm sure if you bought them the necessary hardware and paid for the necessary bandwidth, that they'd be more than happy to open up the test realm to more people.

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  • Toxic PickleToxic Pickle Thash grape! Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    If hardware and bandwidth are preventing them from properly testing this shit, then perhaps they could, oh I don't know, make changes less fucking dramatic so it doesn't become a disaster on the live servers.

    If a change doesn't seem to be enough, Riot could gradually ramp it up a bit more until it seems to be having the effect on the game they want.

    That seems reasonable to me, but I guess I might just be crazy.

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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    shalmelo wrote: »
    Oddfish wrote: »
    I've never run into a Master Yi who wasn't a douche.

    Why is that?


    Master Yi is the training wheels champ for LOL douchebags. Many of those players eventually graduate to playing Shaco.

    Well damn I've been wanting to play both of those characters because of how I perceive their look and attitude... Guess I've learned something about myself.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Yeah man what was Notch thinking not tes--

    oh wait this isn't minecraft.

    Come on Blizzard these druid ner--

    oh.

    umm.

    carry on.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    So ran up against a team running 4 tanks with GA and a zilean.

    yeah it was pretty bad.

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  • UrQuanLord88UrQuanLord88 Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    shalmelo wrote: »
    Oddfish wrote: »
    I've never run into a Master Yi who wasn't a douche.

    Why is that?


    Master Yi is the training wheels champ for LOL douchebags. Many of those players eventually graduate to playing Shaco.

    Pendragon moved from Shaco (after he was nerfed) to Yi. Does that mean anything?!?!
    Saldonas wrote: »
    Hah, if you haven't seen this on the LoL forums yet you should check it out. It's a comic about Udyr drawn by a guy from Spain.

    http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=425985

    Doesn't beat this style of comic.
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  • PacificstarPacificstar Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Changes to IP gain were made to accommodate more game modes. Honestly I haven't noticed any large change in my overall rate of IP gain.

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    clearly the minion change was made to make people disinterested in the game due to the fact that it's not fun, thus lessening server load and letting Riot actually turn on co-op vs ai

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  • ProbadProbad Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Asiina wrote: »
    Probad wrote: »
    Asiina wrote: »
    It means they were raging. People rage in this game. It is a thing that happens.

    One time there was a tryndamere who talked shit through the entire game. When our tank built a thornmail he lost his shit about it. So we all built thornmails. Even though it was a bunch of random people we all collectively decided "Hey. Fuck this guy."

    So he raged about us being premade and how we somehow cheated our way into solo queue.

    Some people are just weird and they come up with weird reasons to justify their rage.

    Fuck that guy. Also, I'm going on break this week, so I might be back to carry you people sometime soon.

    Edit: Wasn't that the Master Yi? I might be mixing up douchebag encounters.

    Were you in that game? I can't remember since it's been almost an eon since you played with us.

    I thought it was the same guy who told us after game to talk to him once we had 1000 wins. I remember doing this once when we duo-queued, and the guy just got bent thinking we had cheated the system and queued as a five-man because we coordinated just slightly.

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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I think when I get home I'm going to play Jax... and pine for the cardboard tube samurai skin you east coasterners will get next week.

    Any tips on him? skill build, items, ways to avoid being exploded?

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  • OremLKOremLK Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Creep waves destroy towers much more easily by themselves now.

    That's the biggest thing I've noticed. And it can be a huge pain in the ass.

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