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  • ZedarZedar Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Raiden333 wrote: »
    I posted this a year ago:
    Raiden333 wrote: »
    Ok, just out of curiosity, I'm going to post a list of ways a company can make money off of used games. I've listed them in order of what I see as least to most severe. I would like people in favor of this to show me where they think the line should be drawn. Just quote me and add a line, or if that doesn't work, bold the ones you think aren't kosher or something.

    A. Free DLC for new copies; something frivolous like armor or a custom skin
    B. Free DLC for new copies; new areas/quests
    C. Free DLC for new copies; new characters
    D. Main game ends on cliffhanger, "Real Ending" of a game in DLC; which comes free if you buy it new (imagine Dead Rising's Overtime being day 1 DLC under this system)
    E. Free DLC for new copies; things usable in multiplayer (like if you could only use an M16 in the next CoD game if you buy it new or pay for the DLC)
    F. Multiplayer mode locked by default, free unlock code in new copies, or pay to download it.
    G. License required to play game at all, license comes with all new copies or can be purchased online for used copies.

    Bonus round: Where do you think the video game company execs would draw the line?

    I will always draw the line at D. Anything below that, I don't care about.

    Doesn't G apply for everything owned on steam?

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  • CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Someone needs to start a D&D thread so we can discuss this without sending the steam thread madly off topic. Someone who isn't me because I suck at making D&D threads.

    Casual on
  • LepwaveLepwave Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Just finished JC2, it's a pretty great game.
    Does doing the last mission with different factions do anything for the game?

    Lepwave on
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  • SorensonSorenson Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Is there any way to find out who has the most accumulated playtime for a given Steam game? I just noticed that I've hit the 500-hour mark for Terran Conflict, and I wonder just how badly I compare to all the other users and especially mod developers out there.

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  • Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Lepwave wrote: »
    Just finished JC2, it's a pretty great game.
    Does doing the last mission with different factions do anything for the game?

    Makes no difference at all. There's a little dialog change but its hardly noticeable.

    Big Classy on
  • MaouMaou Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Sorenson wrote: »
    Is there any way to find out who has the most accumulated playtime for a given Steam game? I just noticed that I've hit the 500-hour mark for Terran Conflict, and I wonder just how badly I compare to all the other users and especially mod developers out there.

    just start the game and alt tab, and the playtime will accumulate.
    so answer to your question is prolly no.

    Maou on
  • RoshinRoshin My backlog can be seen from space SwedenRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I've had Majesty 2 sitting in my backlog for a long while now. I started it up last night, just to have a look, and it seems like a lovely little game. Exactly the sort of thing I will lose hours and hours to. Hours that I don't have, of course, but still. :)

    Edit: You know, I take that back. I just tried to start it up again and the fucking thing wont run. It goes straight into a minimized state and there's no way of accessing it, other than killing the process. Appearantly, the game doesn't appreciate being installed on anything else than the main drive, where the OS is. At least that what the forums tell me. :(

    Roshin on
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  • IoloIolo iolo Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Roshin wrote: »
    I've had Majesty 2 sitting in my backlog for a long while now. I started it up last night, just to have a look, and it seems like a lovely little game. Exactly the sort of thing I will lose hours and hours to. Hours that I don't have, of course, but still. :)

    Edit: You know, I take that back. I just tried to start it up again and the fucking thing wont run. It goes straight into a minimized state and there's no way of accessing it, other than killing the process. Appearantly, the game doesn't appreciate being installed on anything else than the main drive, where the OS is. At least that what the forums tell me. :(

    That is very handy to know prior to purchase. Thank you.

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  • PheacePheace Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Definitely getting Majesty 2 and Kingmaker. Just waiting for the weekend deal before biting the bullet :)

    Think I'm gonna hold off on Mafia 2 till either all the DLC are included in a sale, or preferably some kind of package deal is released.

    Pheace on
  • RoshinRoshin My backlog can be seen from space SwedenRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Yay, I finished another game. Dawn of War 2 is done and I've started on Chaos Rising. :)

    Roshin on
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  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Roshin wrote: »
    I've had Majesty 2 sitting in my backlog for a long while now. I started it up last night, just to have a look, and it seems like a lovely little game. Exactly the sort of thing I will lose hours and hours to. Hours that I don't have, of course, but still. :)

    Edit: You know, I take that back. I just tried to start it up again and the fucking thing wont run. It goes straight into a minimized state and there's no way of accessing it, other than killing the process. Appearantly, the game doesn't appreciate being installed on anything else than the main drive, where the OS is. At least that what the forums tell me. :(

    What is this, 1997?

    Magus` on
  • AnakinOUAnakinOU Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    jothki wrote: »
    Raiden333 wrote: »
    I posted this a year ago:
    Raiden333 wrote: »
    Ok, just out of curiosity, I'm going to post a list of ways a company can make money off of used games. I've listed them in order of what I see as least to most severe. I would like people in favor of this to show me where they think the line should be drawn. Just quote me and add a line, or if that doesn't work, bold the ones you think aren't kosher or something.

    A. Free DLC for new copies; something frivolous like armor or a custom skin
    B. Free DLC for new copies; new areas/quests
    C. Free DLC for new copies; new characters
    D. Main game ends on cliffhanger, "Real Ending" of a game in DLC; which comes free if you buy it new (imagine Dead Rising's Overtime being day 1 DLC under this system)
    E. Free DLC for new copies; things usable in multiplayer (like if you could only use an M16 in the next CoD game if you buy it new or pay for the DLC)
    F. Multiplayer mode locked by default, free unlock code in new copies, or pay to download it.
    G. License required to play game at all, license comes with all new copies or can be purchased online for used copies.

    Bonus round: Where do you think the video game company execs would draw the line?

    I will always draw the line at D. Anything below that, I don't care about.

    Then I take it you never play computer games. F has been standard for probably decades, and it would be G if there was any way to actually verify it.

    Decades? As in, more than one?

    How old are you?

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  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    anyone know of a way to access your installed games without going online at all? The internet isn't getting installed till saturday (next week's saturday) and the pregnant lady is getting bored. I can get into X-Com, but not much else.

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  • AlegisAlegis Impeckable Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Roshin wrote: »
    I've had Majesty 2 sitting in my backlog for a long while now. I started it up last night, just to have a look, and it seems like a lovely little game. Exactly the sort of thing I will lose hours and hours to. Hours that I don't have, of course, but still. :)

    Edit: You know, I take that back. I just tried to start it up again and the fucking thing wont run. It goes straight into a minimized state and there's no way of accessing it, other than killing the process. Appearantly, the game doesn't appreciate being installed on anything else than the main drive, where the OS is. At least that what the forums tell me. :(

    Well, you can put a symbolic link for majesty 2 to your main drive. Try steammover if you don't know what that is

    Alegis on
  • BarneyLBarneyL Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    anyone know of a way to access your installed games without going online at all? The internet isn't getting installed till saturday (next week's saturday) and the pregnant lady is getting bored. I can get into X-Com, but not much else.

    Try running the exe files directly from the steamapps folder, it works for a few things.

    BarneyL on
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  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Iolo wrote: »
    Roshin wrote: »
    I've had Majesty 2 sitting in my backlog for a long while now. I started it up last night, just to have a look, and it seems like a lovely little game. Exactly the sort of thing I will lose hours and hours to. Hours that I don't have, of course, but still. :)

    Edit: You know, I take that back. I just tried to start it up again and the fucking thing wont run. It goes straight into a minimized state and there's no way of accessing it, other than killing the process. Appearantly, the game doesn't appreciate being installed on anything else than the main drive, where the OS is. At least that what the forums tell me. :(

    That is very handy to know prior to purchase. Thank you.

    Yeah, Majesty 2 is in my Steam directory on my J: drive and works fine, so I don't think that's a guarantee of potential problems.

    In fact, the only problem I've run into on Majesty 2 is this one mission where an evil wizard casts this spell that fucks up all your shit near your keep every couple minutes unless you've got a Wizard tower. The one time I managed to get a wizard tower up and running *and* a couple other guilds *and* get my economy started a level 10 werewolf showed up and killed everything.

    So, I put that mission to the side for a moment, and have been playing others.

    Elvenshae on
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    AnakinOU wrote: »
    jothki wrote: »
    Raiden333 wrote: »
    I posted this a year ago:
    Raiden333 wrote: »
    Ok, just out of curiosity, I'm going to post a list of ways a company can make money off of used games. I've listed them in order of what I see as least to most severe. I would like people in favor of this to show me where they think the line should be drawn. Just quote me and add a line, or if that doesn't work, bold the ones you think aren't kosher or something.

    A. Free DLC for new copies; something frivolous like armor or a custom skin
    B. Free DLC for new copies; new areas/quests
    C. Free DLC for new copies; new characters
    D. Main game ends on cliffhanger, "Real Ending" of a game in DLC; which comes free if you buy it new (imagine Dead Rising's Overtime being day 1 DLC under this system)
    E. Free DLC for new copies; things usable in multiplayer (like if you could only use an M16 in the next CoD game if you buy it new or pay for the DLC)
    F. Multiplayer mode locked by default, free unlock code in new copies, or pay to download it.
    G. License required to play game at all, license comes with all new copies or can be purchased online for used copies.

    Bonus round: Where do you think the video game company execs would draw the line?

    I will always draw the line at D. Anything below that, I don't care about.

    Then I take it you never play computer games. F has been standard for probably decades, and it would be G if there was any way to actually verify it.

    Decades? As in, more than one?

    How old are you?
    It's called a "CD key" and decades is close to the truth.

    TychoCelchuuu on
  • IcemopperIcemopper Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    In my day, we only got multiplayer after a group of programmers got to the source code and made a new game of their own.

    Now they work for Valve, so win/win.

    Icemopper on
  • RoshinRoshin My backlog can be seen from space SwedenRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Elvenshae wrote: »
    Iolo wrote: »
    Roshin wrote: »
    I've had Majesty 2 sitting in my backlog for a long while now. I started it up last night, just to have a look, and it seems like a lovely little game. Exactly the sort of thing I will lose hours and hours to. Hours that I don't have, of course, but still. :)

    Edit: You know, I take that back. I just tried to start it up again and the fucking thing wont run. It goes straight into a minimized state and there's no way of accessing it, other than killing the process. Appearantly, the game doesn't appreciate being installed on anything else than the main drive, where the OS is. At least that what the forums tell me. :(

    That is very handy to know prior to purchase. Thank you.

    Yeah, Majesty 2 is in my Steam directory on my J: drive and works fine, so I don't think that's a guarantee of potential problems.

    In fact, the only problem I've run into on Majesty 2 is this one mission where an evil wizard casts this spell that fucks up all your shit near your keep every couple minutes unless you've got a Wizard tower. The one time I managed to get a wizard tower up and running *and* a couple other guilds *and* get my economy started a level 10 werewolf showed up and killed everything.

    So, I put that mission to the side for a moment, and have been playing others.

    I have found some news on this, though. The problem seems to be related to the recently released expansions. Battles of Ardania, at least. I don't know about Monster Kingdom. I'll just quote from the thread on the Steam forums.
    KehlarTVH wrote: »
    I just bought the game plus Kingmaker and Battles of Ardania and have the same problem.

    I've discovered that if i disable either of the expansions (by renaming the resource.expansion_1 or 2 folders) the game will run.
    There appears to be no launcher selection in place for BoA and/or combinations of other expansion. There is certainly no bmp files for selecting BoA inside the localization folder. Running BoA via this method shows a blank button rather than the name of the expansion. Running Kingmaker shows a named button.

    Not a solution but a potential work around for the time being...

    This does indeed work. When I ran the game last night, I only had the Kingmaker expansion (resource.expansion_1) installed and that worked fine. Earlier today I bought the Battles of Ardania expansion (resource.expansion_2) and then attempted to run the game again, which failed.

    I tried renaming the folder for Battles of Ardania now and it works. Hopefully, we'll get an official fix soon.

    Roshin on
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  • OrogogusOrogogus San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    AnakinOU wrote: »
    jothki wrote: »
    Raiden333 wrote: »
    I posted this a year ago:
    Raiden333 wrote: »
    Ok, just out of curiosity, I'm going to post a list of ways a company can make money off of used games. I've listed them in order of what I see as least to most severe. I would like people in favor of this to show me where they think the line should be drawn. Just quote me and add a line, or if that doesn't work, bold the ones you think aren't kosher or something.

    A. Free DLC for new copies; something frivolous like armor or a custom skin
    B. Free DLC for new copies; new areas/quests
    C. Free DLC for new copies; new characters
    D. Main game ends on cliffhanger, "Real Ending" of a game in DLC; which comes free if you buy it new (imagine Dead Rising's Overtime being day 1 DLC under this system)
    E. Free DLC for new copies; things usable in multiplayer (like if you could only use an M16 in the next CoD game if you buy it new or pay for the DLC)
    F. Multiplayer mode locked by default, free unlock code in new copies, or pay to download it.
    G. License required to play game at all, license comes with all new copies or can be purchased online for used copies.

    Bonus round: Where do you think the video game company execs would draw the line?

    I will always draw the line at D. Anything below that, I don't care about.

    Then I take it you never play computer games. F has been standard for probably decades, and it would be G if there was any way to actually verify it.

    Decades? As in, more than one?

    How old are you?
    It's called a "CD key" and decades is close to the truth.
    I think specifically locking out multiplayer is a recent thing. Barring public workstation-based oddities like Netrek, effective multiplayer over TCP/IP wasn't even around until Quakeworld in 1996, and then in retail probably around Jedi Knight or Half Life in 97/98. But I don't think I've personally played anything on the PC (having mostly quit PC multiplayer around when Half Life 2 came out) that lets you tool around in singleplayer while locking out the multiplayer.

    Orogogus on
  • LuqLuq Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Old games frequently had shit like this. There was a Zelda like game called Star Tropics that came with a letter from a mentor character or something. Anyway you had to save the letter (it did say on the letter not to throw it away). Near the very end of the game you have to dip the letter in water to reveal a secret message, a code. You have to enter the code to proceed.

    In other words if you bought this game at Funcoland you were screwed, you couldn't beat it.

    The code was 747 btw. I'll never forget that. Took me hours of guesses.

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  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Plenty of games had the 'single player but no multiplayer' thing - you could install the game with any old CD key, but when you went to multiplayer it would check if anyone else was using that key and lock you out if they were. Battlefield 1942 springs to mind first, although it didn't really have singleplayer.

    L|ama on
  • ebotasticebotastic Going Gonzo In People's HeartsRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    L|ama wrote: »
    Plenty of games had the 'single player but no multiplayer' thing - you could install the game with any old CD key, but when you went to multiplayer it would check if anyone else was using that key and lock you out if they were. Battlefield 1942 springs to mind first, although it didn't really have singleplayer.

    I liked practicing bombing runs on the bots.

    However, that probably didn't help so much taking in to account latency with dial-up. :(

    ebotastic on
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  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Luq wrote: »
    Old games frequently had shit like this. There was a Zelda like game called Star Tropics that came with a letter from a mentor character or something. Anyway you had to save the letter (it did say on the letter not to throw it away). Near the very end of the game you have to dip the letter in water to reveal a secret message, a code. You have to enter the code to proceed.

    In other words if you bought this game at Funcoland you were screwed, you couldn't beat it.

    The code was 747 btw. I'll never forget that. Took me hours of guesses.

    To this day I've never beaten Star Tropics because of that.

    Or ST2.

    :(

    Magus` on
  • CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    anyone know of a way to access your installed games without going online at all? The internet isn't getting installed till saturday (next week's saturday) and the pregnant lady is getting bored. I can get into X-Com, but not much else.

    So offline mode isn't working?

    Casual on
  • PolloDiabloPolloDiablo Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I'm going to do thing to give away some games now. I call it:

    Funday Friday ArmA2 Contest! Start your weekend off with a bang!

    "But it isn't Friday," you ask.

    A. Shut up.
    B. It's so you can have the game on friday/there are more people here today than on real friday.

    Ok, during the Christmas sale I bought two copies of ArmA 2 for some deadbeats who have no intention of ever redeeming their copies. Their loss is your gain!

    The sales pitch! Armed Assault 2 is the latest game from Bohemia Interactive, famed developers of Operation Flashpoint. It's slightly more realistic than other shooters. It's tons more fun than other shooters. You can get it for free if you win one of two contests! Featuring Marines! The Army! The Royal Flying Corps!

    The contest! This contest will be in two parts, because I have two copies and I'm unimaginative.

    Part the first! Do the work for me. The first contest is to come up with the best idea for a contest. The winner will be whatever I find to be the funniest or most interesting hoop to jump through.

    Part the second! Jump through whatever hoop the fuckers in part one came up with. Assuming anyone here even wants a copy of the game.

    Here's a picture to whet your appetite. Hopefully.

    army.jpg

    PolloDiablo on
  • ZxerolZxerol for the smaller pieces, my shovel wouldn't do so i took off my boot and used my shoeRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    God, ArmA. Sometimes, me and my bud thinks we'd like to play some coop again, but we never do because it turns out we've forgotten all the controls on how to play the thing.

    Zxerol on
  • SkutSkutSkutSkut Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I already have ArmA 2 :(

    If someone wants to use my entry idea for the create a contest though feel free-

    "Create the most unimaginative first person shooter"

    SkutSkut on
  • SurikoSuriko AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    AUSTRALIANS!

    http://store.steampowered.com/sub/7564/

    Because Shogun 2 has inflated regional pricing, but the Total War collection does not, you can buy every single Total War game from Rome onwards for $10 more than just Shogun 2. And this pack includes Shogun 2.

    Suriko on
  • donhonkdonhonk Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Neat contest idea. Or is it? I DONT KNOW

    Contest idea: Film a non game / non tech savvy family member or acquaintance playing the ARMA II demo.

    donhonk on
  • Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    But then that would mean you already have ARMA II.

    Big Classy on
  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Wait is there gonna be a PA Arma event? Because sign me the fuck up.

    Lord Yod on
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  • Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I just installed Operation thingy so I'm in. Never played ARMA before so it should be interesting.

    Big Classy on
  • MegaDoomerMegaDoomer Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    ArmA2 contest idea:

    find a screen shot or take a picture of what is in your opinion the best looking ARMS...

    example:
    deadspace6_1110942c.jpg

    look at those arms!

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  • rRootagearRootagea MadisonRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Arma 2 is not actually that brown is it?

    Cough. Now I propose a photoshop/paint.net/gimp contest to move those soldiers and that chinook into a much more colorful environment.

    rRootagea on
  • SudsSuds Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    The screenshot is from Operation Arrowhead.

    Are you giving away ArmA 2 or Operation Arrowhead? Or Combined Arms?

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  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Operation Arrowhead is set in a more desert-y place than the original campaign. Also it's great.

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  • UltimanecatUltimanecat Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Lord Yod wrote: »
    Operation Arrowhead is set in a more desert-y place than the original campaign. Also it's great.

    Unless that screenshot is from a campaign where the US Army invades a terraformed Mars, they apparently forgot what color the sky is supposed to be.

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  • Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Sand storm?

    Big Classy on
  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Turns out that helicopters churn up a lot of dust. Who knew?

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