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HorusHorus Los AngelesRegistered User regular
edited March 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
well.... after 8 years of planning & saving and 2 years of actively searching.... I am just weeks away of becoming a homeowner.


I am going to need a crash course of being a handy man, so I am looking for a PA forums but instead of nerdage talk more like hammer and nails talk. Also.... embarrassing to say this but interior design for nerds help....

Help me become a hairy chested manly man fixer with a slight touch of femininity!

“You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose. You're on your own. And you know what you know. And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go...”
― Dr. Seuss, Oh, the Places You'll Go!
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  • RedDeliciousRedDelicious Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    YouTube is your friend here, as are those thick books you can pick up at Home Depot. What kind of work are you planning on doing?

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited March 2011
    Can you be a little more clear what you're asking for? This is pretty broad.

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    And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
  • brain operatorbrain operator Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Are you talking about fixing the occasional problem or about renovating your new home? If the latter, because of a strict budget that would otherwise not stretch far enough or just to give yourself a bit more financial margin?

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  • HorusHorus Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    A central hub of simple fixes I can reference cause I wont have cable to be watching TLC or Home Improvement


    For the major stuff, understand the severity in workload and budget so that is useful, maybe a forum devoted to new homeowners?
    Bathrooms
    hardwood floors
    garage needs a new roof
    adding gutters
    reducing moisture under the house (this is due to people living there being pigs)
    earthquake safety


    Does anyone know nerdy interior design sites? I have a few but mostly hardcore Macs peeps who paint murals of Steve Jobs which is too far for me.

    Horus on
    “You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose. You're on your own. And you know what you know. And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go...”
    ― Dr. Seuss, Oh, the Places You'll Go!
  • brain operatorbrain operator Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    http://forum.doityourself.com/

    I'm European and there are quite a few major differences in construction (or even how certain parts of construction are done) between here and where you are, not to mention how the climate affects this - IOW, I won't be able to tell you much from my own experience that's going to be useful (or at least dependable). The forum above is mostly USA/Canada though, so you should be able to get some answers there.
    Horus wrote: »
    Does anyone know nerdy interior design sites? I have a few but mostly hardcore Macs peeps who paint murals of Steve Jobs which is too far for me.
    Interior Design isn't usually nerdy IMX - though YMMV - except when talking about inserting technology left and right. DI sites tend to lean towards the expensive though. I think you'll be better off at least thinking about what kind of style you like before looking into making it a reality.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    where will you be living?

    (state wise that is)

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  • ThundyrkatzThundyrkatz Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Based on your post, it sounds like there is a lot to do on your new house. I would suggest making a list based on priority of importance and then cost. You own the home, so you will be there for a while hopefully. Don't kill your self trying to do a ton of stuff all at once.

    As an example, my wife and i bought a house just under 2 years ago. within a month we decided to paint the interior. in 1 weekend we painted 3/4 of the rooms in a 2,000sq home. It was WAY more work then we anticipated and i am still sick of painting.

    Someone suggested that you should live in a house for a while before you decide to make any significant changes. This is a good idea, as it will help you focus on the area's of the house you are in most frequently. Our house has 2 spare bedroom for future family expansion. But for now, we literally never go in these rooms.

    Also, there is no shame in hiring a professional for help. Things like plumbing and electrical work should not be taken lightly. If anything, try to find a family member or friend that knows what they are doing and have them show you what to do so you can do it later.

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  • brain operatorbrain operator Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Based on your post, it sounds like there is a lot to do on your new house. I would suggest making a list based on priority of importance and then cost.
    The OP's going to want multiple quotes for each job anyway, and is under no obligation to accept any of them.

    IOW: if you want to be informed about the cost, ask several contractors for a price.

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  • JLM-AWPJLM-AWP Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Horus wrote: »
    Does anyone know nerdy interior design sites? I have a few but mostly hardcore Macs peeps who paint murals of Steve Jobs which is too far for me.

    One thing you want to be careful with, and this may not matter to you, is the resale value and overall appearance of your home to future potential buyers. I'm not sure how long you plan to keep this house, but decorations and design within the preferences of a majority of buyers is a good strategy...unless you are willing to redecorate later on when you plan to sell.

    I bought a condo a year ago, and was very tempted to go the nerdy/dorky route with the decorating, but after looking at a ton of places, I realized what it was that made me want to live somewhere...which was typically a clean, familiar looking space. Just something to think about.

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  • HorusHorus Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Well the reason I am asking for a forum post is to educate myself before bringing in a contractor and to determine is this project for my house something I can do or need professional help. The house overall just needs TLC and other than the bathrooms is in good condition. I guess my main point is I need some center hub of information to educate myself on various things on a house.

    @JLM-AWP - trust me if you saw the house how it is.... you will think the nerd route will be an improvement. I am not asking for nerdy look as in Star Wars decor or something but something hip. Not your typical off white variations of colors.

    @Xaquin Los Angeles

    @brain operator Exactly but before I go request quotes I need to do some research, even if its electrical work I want to learn the problem, the solution and average price range so when I do go get contractors I won't get screwed over with wrong work being done or half ass. That is why I want to find a handy man forum community just like PA to get advice and share ideas to get feedback by those who know more than me.

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    “You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose. You're on your own. And you know what you know. And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go...”
    ― Dr. Seuss, Oh, the Places You'll Go!
  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
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    Voice actor for hire. My time is free if your project is!
  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    As a homeowner, I have found google to be the most valuable resource of all for do it yourself stuff.

    I'm not being cheeky, either. Just type exactly what you're dealing with into it. Every grammatical permutation of your problem has probably been asked, answered, and possibly photographed or illustrated. If I can't find exactly the fix I'm seeking I go to the hardware store and wander around the approriate area looking confused.

    Second most valuable: People at hardware stores.

    Those commercials where the employees are helping people with complicated projects aren't full of shit. Chances are you need to go there anyway, so why not seek advice while you're there. Even if I already have a plan, I will tend to run it by one of them if they ask. Normally this would make me feel like I was being a pain in the ass, but I make sure to resolve all of my stupid questions on the internet first.

    Third most valuable: Some DIY homeowner book I got as a housewarmer. It appears very useful, and I can get you the title, but honestly I've never used it. (I have lent it out, however, and they found it useful). So maybe take a trip to the bookstore and browse around.

    Things to consider for DIY and building code shit: In some states (I don't know CA), you don't need a contractor to certify your work, provided you are the one who lives there. However, if you sell (or rent) the house, it will have to pass inspection. So it would behoove you to learn these codes, make all your modifications to those codes, and have them inspected/certified when you can afford it.

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  • SaammielSaammiel Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    All the big box stores sell various books that will go over the really common repairs in a house for like $30. Buy one of those, they are a good starting point IMO.

    There is a lot of seasonal maintenance on a house. If you have a yard you will have to do a varying amount of work in the spring/fall in the form of aerating and fertilizing a lawn. I'm from the midwest though, so LA will be significantly different. Luckily you don't need to winterize anything, so that is nice.

    Also change your air filters as needed. God I am horrible at remembering to do that. Salt for your water softener if you have one will need to be watched as well.

    If your house lacks a programmable thermostat for the love of god buy one and install it (they are easy). They grant a huge benefit for like a $60 outlay.

    A lot of learning to do stuff is either having a buddy who can walk you through or just giving it a whirl and taking the risk. Plumbing and electrical can be bitches, so I'd start small on those. It is far easier to fix a drywall/painting/carpentry fuck up than it is a plumbing or electrical one.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Yeah my girlfriend's parents have never changed the air filter on their central air/furnace and their house pretty much is cold in the winter and hot in the summer, and they pay almost $400 a month in electric... for a single wide trailer. That's more than my parents on a 2 story house.

    It is amazing how much money you can save with a little maintenance, and as a home owner knowing to do little things like changing filters, or switching to CFLs instead of incandescent bulbs can save you a buttload of money. You may find out your bills go down from owning an apartment because the management isn't really invested in making your bills cheaper as much as you are.

    There are even significant rebates for making your home energy efficient which you may want to look into if your home has lots of repairs like that.

    Fixing your gutters or building a deck is easy work, it just takes time and learning how to do the basics. But for plumbing other than plungers and electrical you are better off letting the professionals do it. Things like redoing your roof you may consider depending on how handy you are. But fixing drywall and carpet? Google. Cabinet broke? Google. Laying tile? Google.

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    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Saammiel wrote: »
    If your house lacks a programmable thermostat for the love of god buy one and install it (they are easy). They grant a huge benefit for like a $60 outlay.

    Word of caution:

    Get one that is easy to program. The one that came with my house has 4 hour blocks, for every day of the week.

    There is no option to make a general setting, you have to set every single one, and you have 3 fucking buttons with which to navigate it: Next, +, -.

    Frustrating as fuck.

    I require 3 settings. Home, not home, and sleeping. I would much rather manage these myself than work with that thing's interface.

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  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Google++

    Also, I've found this book to be handy to have around, though everything in it is googleable.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0762105798

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    can you feel the struggle within?
  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    It really helps to have it right there in front of you. Something you can turn your head to look at instead of following a youtube video and maybe jotting down some bad diagrams. So I second getting at least some type of book like that.

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    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • jclastjclast Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    As somebody who just learned this make sure your thermostat and furnace know how to work together. I just got a new thermostat that knows how to talk to a two-stage furnace and the temperature in various rooms of the house is orders of magnitude better than it used to be.

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  • ThundyrkatzThundyrkatz Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    When you get your home inspection, prior to buying it. Make sure that you take a lot of good notes and ask a lot of questions. If he brushes off your concerns or is impatient with you then get another inspector. Finding out something is royally borked before you buy is imminently better then finding out afterward.

    Especially... Where is the master water shutoff for the house. Make sure you know this, because when you need it you will have precious little time to find it.

    Make sure you understand how the breakers work in the house and that they are labeled well.

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  • brain operatorbrain operator Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Horus wrote: »
    @brain operator Exactly but before I go request quotes I need to do some research, even if its electrical work I want to learn the problem, the solution and average price range so when I do go get contractors I won't get screwed over with wrong work being done or half ass. That is why I want to find a handy man forum community just like PA to get advice and share ideas to get feedback by those who know more than me.
    I'm not saying this is a bad idea. Research never hurts. But quotes are very situation-specific. A nice square room is much easier - and should be cheaper - to floor than one with crooked walls and uneven corners - or even more than 4 corners. The tiles you choose will matter too. That's just a simple, basic example. It's not easy to get an average quote for a job even if you're in the same state as the people you're asking. Interstate it's that much harder, because of wage differences and because of construction factors that may vary.

    This is why you should get several price offers. You can (and probably should) tell potential contractors you're asking quotes from others too. It can help keep them honest. Also, be realistic: if one offer is really substantially better than all the others, consider how that that could be. If it sounds too good, it probably is.

    Also, ask contractors about the job you want them to do. Ask if you're not forgetting anything. Ask how they would do something, why, and how much that would cost. Ask anything you can think of. Yes, it'll be annoying. But it'll be much better than you having to change the job when it's already being done and paying more for it than you had calculated for. You might still not get all the info you'd ideally want anyway, but that should not be for a lack of trying.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Ask for references for their work. And you almost always get what you pay for. Watch Holmes on Homes if you haven't.

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    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Holmes on Holmes is scary

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    Voice actor for hire. My time is free if your project is!
  • kneelingyakkneelingyak Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    You seem to be on the right track but if you do plan to DIY something make sure you take pride in your work and do it right the first time to avoid future headaches. This is especially important on unpleasant tasks that need to be done but no one REALLY wants to do.

    The immediate example that springs to mind is fixing a toilet. The toilet is a remarkably simple device and it is very easy to fix most problems but I've seen so many examples of lazy DIY, poor workmanship and general not caring that lead to much larger problems in the future. Can you slap some duck tape on it? Sure, that might work for a week or a month but eventually you will have to deal with the original problem again plus any additional issues that were caused by ignoring it in the first place.

    If you don't know how to do it right make sure you ask or look it up but don't guess. As ArbitraryDescriptor said no matter what your question it has been asked, answered and documented in detail in many forum posts, DIY blogs and books.


    If you are buying a house that needs a little work prepare to live at Home Depot, Lowes, <local hardware store>.

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    If you are buying a house that needs a little work prepare to live at Home Depot, Lowes, <local hardware store>.

    And you'll never go there just once for a project. I had to do some plumbing work and visited HD 5 times in one day. By the 3rd time I was buying all kinds of extra shit knowing that I'd just come back later and return what I didn't use.

    I'll usually start my research at diynetwork.com to get an idea of how a project is supposed to go, then search online for alternate ways/experiences. Those home improvement shows are good for showing you how it could go, and how it could go wrong. Though I like the show I think Holmes on Homes is a bit extreme, like no previous home builder or contractor has ever done anything right.

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  • HorusHorus Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Thanks everyone, this is the information I was looking for and advice.

    I paid good money for a home inspection who are very annal on everything so I have a nice binder with the big issues and the ones I can do. Just need to research and be proactive.

    Now to get cheap furniture from craiglist.

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    “You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose. You're on your own. And you know what you know. And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go...”
    ― Dr. Seuss, Oh, the Places You'll Go!
  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Oh yeah, large issues like the roof needing repairing can usually come right out of the purchase price. Though I'm not sure how that works if you've already made an offer.

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    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • SaammielSaammiel Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Oh and apparently don't block the return vents in your house (they are the furnace vents that directly abut the floor and which air doesn't come out of when your furnace/AC is running). You will get yelled at by the furnace technician if you do so.

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  • ThundyrkatzThundyrkatz Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Try to keep a good humor when you screw something up and just say "well, i won't do that again"

    For the first year i lived in my house, i was a nervous wreck. I was under the impression that if i just knew a little more, i could head off some issue or disaster. Every bump and creak that the house made was the prelude to some crazy imagined catastrophe about to happen.

    In the end, stuff broke. I fixed it when it became apparent to me it was broke. Worrying about it only made the time between things breaking less enjoyable.

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  • StraygatsbyStraygatsby Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    As someone who's owned a ratty 1920s duplex for about 4 years now, I must echo a number of the comments in the thread. Youtube was surprisingly useful for me when I needed to know little, in depth subjects. Something as simple as changing a burned out ceiling fan was a learning process for me, the guy who'd lived in major city apartments for a decade prior.

    I will say, however, that one of the most important things in owning your own place, in addition to DIY, is having a roster of vetted, trustworthy, and reasonable pros in your rolodex. I know we live in the age of everyone wanting to be their own household gods, knocking out walls, creating support beams with sheer willpower, and insisting that everything they are doing is "green."

    But get yourself a good contractor/carpenter, good plumber, and good electrician and don't be afraid to ask for help when you need it.


    Jesus, I sound like my mother. :evil:

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