Nah, the original term came from an LA Times article in which a female non-fiction author described how she was at a party once with a dude who decided to hold forth on the topic of her professional field, and then proceeded to recommend a book to her.
only she was the author of the book, and it took quite a while for him to get it through his head that he was misexplaining the woman's own book to her.
I'm sorry give me a piece of feminist jargon that isn't over-used and detached from it's original meaning due to usage deviation and shit.
you could do this with any non-technical jargon, and a lot of technical jargon too
and a lot of words that aren't jargon
So it takes the teeth out of Pony's statement, but the truth remains. Although I suppose he would appear biased in choosing to single out "feminist jargon"
They have a test for that in Ireland now: the Madonna / Whore quotient of a woman. When a woman puts her hands together to pray and when she's crying the blood and she levitates if you don't get a sustained hum in A-flat she's a fucking whore!
An issue I have with modern feminism is it uses jargon that often comes from an angrier, more hostile era of feminism and basically goes out of its way to be as in-your-face and undiplomatic as it can be.
There's a reason why feminist threads on non-feminist forums descend into arguments about terms like "rape culture" and "the patriarchy".
It's not because these terms don't describe real social and cultural phenomenon.
Also no spoiler but for anyone playing DA 2, specializations in the game are not learned or bought like in Dragons Age Origins, when you get a point to learn a specialization (at level 7 and 14) you can put it in and unlock the tree automatically. I didn't learn this till I was way way late in the game.
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I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
An issue I have with modern feminism is it uses jargon that often comes from an angrier, more hostile era of feminism and basically goes out of its way to be as in-your-face and undiplomatic as it can be.
There's a reason why feminist threads on non-feminist forums descend into arguments about terms like "rape culture" and "the patriarchy".
It's not because these terms don't describe real social and cultural phenomenon.
It's that they piss people off.
Oh, I'm so sorry Pony, we'll make sure to be nice ladies next time we talk about this
Also no spoiler but for anyone playing DA 2, specializations in the game are not learned or bought like in Dragons Age Origins, when you get a point to learn a specialization (at level 7 and 14) you can put it in and unlock the tree automatically. I didn't learn this till I was way way late in the game.
They have a test for that in Ireland now: the Madonna / Whore quotient of a woman. When a woman puts her hands together to pray and when she's crying the blood and she levitates if you don't get a sustained hum in A-flat she's a fucking whore!
hahaha, which show is that from? I have three of his dvd's, but I don't remember that line.
They have a test for that in Ireland now: the Madonna / Whore quotient of a woman. When a woman puts her hands together to pray and when she's crying the blood and she levitates if you don't get a sustained hum in A-flat she's a fucking whore!
hahaha, which show is that from? I have three of his dvd's, but I don't remember that line.
That's from "What It Is". The show is on youtube if you are interested (I linked the first part on the last page).
Also no spoiler but for anyone playing DA 2, specializations in the game are not learned or bought like in Dragons Age Origins, when you get a point to learn a specialization (at level 7 and 14) you can put it in and unlock the tree automatically. I didn't learn this till I was way way late in the game.
aw I liked the way blood mage unlocked in DA:O
I could see that, but then again first time through playing Origins I missed out on a lot of the ones you couldn't simply buy. Though I didn't do much better in DA2 obviously!
Preacher on
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
An issue I have with modern feminism is it uses jargon that often comes from an angrier, more hostile era of feminism and basically goes out of its way to be as in-your-face and undiplomatic as it can be.
There's a reason why feminist threads on non-feminist forums descend into arguments about terms like "rape culture" and "the patriarchy".
It's not because these terms don't describe real social and cultural phenomenon.
It's that they piss people off.
I'm sorry Pony, we'll turn down our explanations of real-world issues and moderate our words so you can be happy
An issue I have with modern feminism is it uses jargon that often comes from an angrier, more hostile era of feminism and basically goes out of its way to be as in-your-face and undiplomatic as it can be.
There's a reason why feminist threads on non-feminist forums descend into arguments about terms like "rape culture" and "the patriarchy".
It's not because these terms don't describe real social and cultural phenomenon.
It's that they piss people off.
Oh, I'm so sorry Pony, we'll make sure to be nice ladies next time we talk about this
An issue I have with modern feminism is it uses jargon that often comes from an angrier, more hostile era of feminism and basically goes out of its way to be as in-your-face and undiplomatic as it can be.
There's a reason why feminist threads on non-feminist forums descend into arguments about terms like "rape culture" and "the patriarchy".
It's not because these terms don't describe real social and cultural phenomenon.
It's that they piss people off.
I'm sorry Pony, we'll turn down our explanations of real-world issues and moderate our words so you can be happy
Hey, you can do things your way if you like, and in doing so, you will find some success.
But, it would not kill you or take away from your causes in any way to attempt to be a little more diplomatic.
I know that you, personally, have argued just the opposite before Arivia so you and I will probably have to agree to disagree on the whole "diplomacy" thing.
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Yeah, Pony sure was making an unreasonable point there... cautioning people against the use of hyperbolic rhetoric as a way to foster healthy discussion about issues.
An issue I have with modern feminism is it uses jargon that often comes from an angrier, more hostile era of feminism and basically goes out of its way to be as in-your-face and undiplomatic as it can be.
There's a reason why feminist threads on non-feminist forums descend into arguments about terms like "rape culture" and "the patriarchy".
It's not because these terms don't describe real social and cultural phenomenon.
It's that they piss people off.
I'm sorry Pony, we'll turn down our explanations of real-world issues and moderate our words so you can be happy
Hey, you can do things your way if you like, and in doing so, you will find some success.
But, it would not kill you or take away from your causes in any way to attempt to be a little more diplomatic.
I know that you, personally, have argued just the opposite before Arivia so you and I will probably have to agree to disagree on the whole "diplomacy" thing.
your position is frankly ridiculous and borders on concern trolling, and you need to read the link I dropped on the last page.
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Yeah, Pony sure was making an unreasonable point there... cautioning people against the use of hyperbolic rhetoric as a way to foster healthy discussion about issues.
I'm glad Cat and Arivia put him in his place.
So using the word "patriarchy" is "hyperbolic rhetoric", is it?
Yeah, Pony sure was making an unreasonable point there... cautioning people against the use of hyperbolic rhetoric as a way to foster healthy discussion about issues.
I'm glad Cat and Arivia put him in his place.
I feel that hyperbolic rhetoric inevitably ends up making the argument about the rhetoric itself instead of the message behind it.
And when that happens, people stop listening.
Gender issues threads get derailed this way all the motherfucking time because people end up taking affront to how things are being said instead of what is being said.
I get frequently criticized for being too abrasive and harsh in points I am making, and I feel there's some truth to that and I've made no small effort to be a little more diplomatic and
as a result
people listen to me more instead of getting fussed up about how I'm saying shit.
Yeah, Pony sure was making an unreasonable point there... cautioning people against the use of hyperbolic rhetoric as a way to foster healthy discussion about issues.
I'm glad Cat and Arivia put him in his place.
So using the word "patriarchy" is "hyperbolic rhetoric", is it?
You know Cat, maybe it seems like trolling to you but it sort of rankles men when we're treating like potential rapists by virtue of having a penis.
So the kind of rhetoric that the more extreme feminists use can kindly fuck off, we'll work with the ones who don't see half the population as someone they're at war with.
Yeah, Pony sure was making an unreasonable point there... cautioning people against the use of hyperbolic rhetoric as a way to foster healthy discussion about issues.
I'm glad Cat and Arivia put him in his place.
Edit: dammit cat stop making my posts just before me
@wazilla: is a thing that is actively perpetrated?
Edit2: I'm sorry Pony, I don't see a meaningful conversation as something that needs to stop because a white man "got his panties in a bunch." (it's funny how many of those images we have for women and how few for men.)
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show some initiative and go rob a bank and set up a retirement fund
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8okN-gCMTY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKgwBpiJbAc
you could do this with any non-technical jargon, and a lot of technical jargon too
and a lot of words that aren't jargon
Ponysplaining.
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only she was the author of the book, and it took quite a while for him to get it through his head that he was misexplaining the woman's own book to her.
Its a rather good article. You should read it, Pony.
So it takes the teeth out of Pony's statement, but the truth remains. Although I suppose he would appear biased in choosing to single out "feminist jargon"
PONY Y U HATIN'?
QUICKLY, THROW ACRONYMS AROUND
That paradigm has shifted.
There's a reason why feminist threads on non-feminist forums descend into arguments about terms like "rape culture" and "the patriarchy".
It's not because these terms don't describe real social and cultural phenomenon.
It's that they piss people off.
I am fucking trashed
pleasepaypreacher.net
Oh, I'm so sorry Pony, we'll make sure to be nice ladies next time we talk about this
aw
hahaha, which show is that from? I have three of his dvd's, but I don't remember that line.
HEY CAT, http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/massive_floater.html
That's from "What It Is". The show is on youtube if you are interested (I linked the first part on the last page).
I could see that, but then again first time through playing Origins I missed out on a lot of the ones you couldn't simply buy. Though I didn't do much better in DA2 obviously!
pleasepaypreacher.net
I'm sorry Pony, we'll turn down our explanations of real-world issues and moderate our words so you can be happy
And there you go.
Hey, you can do things your way if you like, and in doing so, you will find some success.
But, it would not kill you or take away from your causes in any way to attempt to be a little more diplomatic.
I know that you, personally, have argued just the opposite before Arivia so you and I will probably have to agree to disagree on the whole "diplomacy" thing.
Holy crap, that photo is gorgeous
I'm glad Cat and Arivia put him in his place.
Works every time, it does
your position is frankly ridiculous and borders on concern trolling, and you need to read the link I dropped on the last page.
So using the word "patriarchy" is "hyperbolic rhetoric", is it?
Back in your corner, thanks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0rvuaDPJgo
I love that song and always will.
I feel that hyperbolic rhetoric inevitably ends up making the argument about the rhetoric itself instead of the message behind it.
And when that happens, people stop listening.
Gender issues threads get derailed this way all the motherfucking time because people end up taking affront to how things are being said instead of what is being said.
I get frequently criticized for being too abrasive and harsh in points I am making, and I feel there's some truth to that and I've made no small effort to be a little more diplomatic and
as a result
people listen to me more instead of getting fussed up about how I'm saying shit.
"rape culture"
So the kind of rhetoric that the more extreme feminists use can kindly fuck off, we'll work with the ones who don't see half the population as someone they're at war with.
Edit: dammit cat stop making my posts just before me
@wazilla: is a thing that is actively perpetrated?
Edit2: I'm sorry Pony, I don't see a meaningful conversation as something that needs to stop because a white man "got his panties in a bunch." (it's funny how many of those images we have for women and how few for men.)