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[Puella Magi Madoka Magica] - Link to Theater Listings for Rebellion at Top of OP

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REBELLION THEATER LISTINGS

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Don't forget.

Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you.

As long as you remember her, you are not alone.

What is Madoka Magica?

Madoka Magica is a 12 episode television series written by heart-warming author Gen Urobuchi. The series premiered in 2011 and quickly became regarded as the next breakthrough Anime series, bringing forth a level of insane fandom not seen since Neon Genesis Evangelion.

If you haven't experienced the series yet, you'll undoubtedly run into many fans hyping it up as some sort of holy grail of animation and storytelling. That goes for me as well, as I personally regard Madoka Magica as one of the greatest Animes I've ever watched, as well as one of the best written stories I've ever experienced in any media form.

But it really is better if you ignore all the hype and hyperbole and just check out the series for yourself. The less you know about the show, the better the experience will be. Spoilers are rampant across the internet, so avoid any curiosity you may have in a Google search.

The one comment you'll often hear from people is that Madoka is a deconstruction of the Magical Girl genre. This is an erroneous statement, as the Magical Girl part of the story is played perfectly straight. If anything, it is better to say that the series is a deconstruction of the Deus Ex Machina principal, but to go into further detail would only give away much of the story beats and themes. Suffice to say, the premise behind Madoka could work in any conceivable setting, and the story itself can be appreciated without any prior knowledge of Magical Girls or any other Anime tropes.

You might also hear different reasons for why the series resonated with so many people. The truth is that not one single element defines Madoka Magica; rather, it succeeds in almost every area flawlessly. The plot is structured without feeling exploitive, the animation is both superb and subtle when it needs to be, the major story beats are always delivered with the right sense of timing and music, and the characters are all well-written with a level of depth that truly propels them to believability.

Speaking of the characters...

The Cast


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Madoka Kaname:

A kind-hearted teenage girl with loving friends and family, Madoka lives an ordinary but otherwise content life. Though she believes that she lacks any particular skills or strengths, she feels drawn by the prospect of becoming a Magical Girl in order to protect people from the threat of the inhuman creatures known as "Witches".

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Sayaka Miki:

Madoka's closest childhood friend, Sayaka makes up 1/3 of the inseparable clique of herself, Madoka, and Hitomi. Though comically easygoing and stubbornly headstrong, she possesses a strong drive forged by unbreakable ideals to protect the people who are most important to her.

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Mami Tomoe:

A Magical Girl as well as Madoka's senior, Mami first encounters Madoka and Sayaka while performing her Witch-hunting duties. Captivated by her gentle demeanor and incredible power, Madoka and Sayaka join Mami as would-be apprentices to fight alongside her as Magical Girls.

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Homura Akemi:

A mysterious girl who transferred to Madoka's school, the soft-spoken Homura approaches Madoka privately to offer a cryptic series of words that serve as some sort of warning. As a Magical Girl with a mysterious power, she chooses to fight alone, which puts her at odds with the other girls.

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Kyouko Sakura:

Another mysterious Magical Girl who prefers to fight solo, but is far more outspoken and ruthless than Homura. Her endless appetite for sweets seem to symbolize her desire to monopolize on the hunts for Witches in order to scoop up the rewards for herself (the Grief Seeds, which are dropped upon a Witch's demise).

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Kyubey:

The enigmatic, otherwordly creature known as Kyubey is responsible for bestowing ordinary human girls with the ability to transform into Magical Girls. In exchange for a single wish granted, those who make a contract with Kyubey are sworn to dedicate their lives to defeating the Witches that plague humankind with their curses.

Where to Watch:

You can watch the entire series for free on both Crunchyroll and Hulu. If you also love box sets but hate money, you can dump an absurd amount of dollars in order to buy Animplex's overpriced DVDs and Blu Rays. This is also the only method to watch the series dubbed, but it is highly recommended you stick to the original Japanese audio. As someone who generally prefers dubs, the English cast simply does not hold a candle to the original Japanese voice actors, often holding back in their delivery even during the most pivotal moments.

Another alternative are the two-part recap movies, which premiered simultaneously in both Japanese theaters and limited showings overseas (a first, I believe, for any Anime film). Though the films mostly use stock footage from the series, nearly every scene features touched-up animation as well as additional music, transformation sequences, and completely re-done dialogue. There are also a few brand new scenes sprinkled here and there that overall combine into a new experience even for those who watched the series, as well as an adequate alternative for newbies to check out the story with virtually no compromises from the original series.

Post-Series Content:

Warning: Do NOT read if you haven't finished the series!

Despite the heart-wrenching finale, Madoka Magica is clearly too hot a property to end on just one series. Urobuchi and studio SHAFT have made comments regarding the future of the series, including a possible second season spanning over 20 episodes as well as spin-offs that follow alternate paths and storylines (all which can be neatly categorized as "another one of Homura's failed time loops").

But the biggest thing to look forward to right now is the upcoming third film, which is actually a sequel set in the "New World" created by Madoka's wish at the end of the series.

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Madoka Magica The Movie III: Rebellion




Little is known about the new film's plot beyond the short teasers released as well as a few closely-guarded comments by Urobuchi. What is known is that all five of the original characters will be making an appearance in some form, and that the movie will "not be the end of the Madoka story", though it will certainly be surprising if any of the main characters will still be alive at the end of this film (a promise of the group "reuniting" is as ominous as it is heart-warming).

The Cast (New World):

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Ultimate Madoka:

Thanks to the limitless power of her wish, Madoka was able to create a universe where Witches no longer existed. However, the price paid for such a wish meant that Madoka could no longer exist in the same corporeal space as ordinary humans, instead serving as a metaphorical and literal Goddess that appears to lead all dying Magical Girls to an afterlife of her own creation. The logistics of a "Magical Girl Valhalla" are still unknown, but one of the key elements the film promises to address is the emotional strain that such a role may have on an ordinary girl like Madoka.

Though everyone in the New World no longer remembers Madoka (save for Homura), it is presumed that the girls will regain their memory of their lost friend upon their passing. This was hinted in episode 12 during Madoka and Sayaka's reunion in Kyosuke's concert, and strengthened during the teaser trailer (where a reflection of Madoka as a Goddess can be seen reflected from Sayaka's eyes).

She is also seen walking to school alongside Sayaka and Kyouko in the newest trailer, as if she still existed among them as a normal girl. This scene also shows Homura in her original braided look and Kyouko wearing their school uniform. Could all this be a possible flashback to a previous timeline?

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Sayaka Miki:

Though Magical Girls who exist in the New World would no longer transform into Witches, this did not guarantee a happy ending for everyone who gave up their souls to have their wishes granted. Such is the case for Sayaka, who was shown as having passed on during an unseen battle with the Wraiths. While Madoka was unable to change the tragic fate of her best friend, she was able to help guide her to rest in peace, witnessing the results of her sacrifice as Hitomi and Kyosuke would continue to live on in her stead.

It is presumed that the movie will show the events that lead to Sayaka's demise, as the trailer suggests that Hitomi will fall victim to a "Nightmare" (which may be the Wraith's equivalent to a Witch's curse), to which Sayaka will "put everything into a final attack" in order to save her friend. She also appears to support the relationship between Hitomi and Kyosuke, even criticizing the latter for not giving her his full attention. In the latest teaser, we also see her strike at Homura's shield with her sword, even damaging it. Could this be the reason that Homura no longer appears to have time-based powers?

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Homura Akemi:

Many questions arose from Homura's role in the New World, with the latest trailers only adding further confusion. All that we know so far is that Homura has retained her memories of Madoka, though whether this knowledge is something she has at the start of the new timeline or something that is granted to her through some event is still unknown. We also see her wearing her original braided hairstyle and glasses in some scenes, which only adds further confusion.

What we do know is that she possesses a mysterious power that seems to have replaced her original time-based abilities, including a pair of black wings that according to Urobuchi will be explained in the film. The power was theorized to have some sort of connection with the Witches due to their stylized appearance. Has she somehow absorbed the powers of the Witches, or could this be derived from Madoka's powers somehow?

Regardless, it is also clear that Homura misses Madoka dearly, to the point that she seems unable to live on without her. It is unclear if her relationship with the other girls is friendlier than it was in the past, though one scene does show her fighting against Mami. Another scene does show her transforming alongside Kyouko and Mami, which suggests that they will team up at some point in the film. It also appears that Madoka herself will appear before Homura, ready to finally take her to the afterlife where they can be "together, forever". Being an Urobuchi work, however, this could easily be a diversion that leads to a crueler twist.

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Mami Tomoe:

Little is known about Mami's role in the New World, though it can be assumed that her parents still remain dead as the accident that claimed their lives was caused by humans, not Witches. What we have seen shows her conversing with Homura in her original look, but also clashing with Homura (in her current attire) in a rather heated exchange of gunfire. A line in the teaser about "don't follow me, or I will fight you" suggests that perhaps Mami is the one initiating the rift between them. As she is known to be easily traumatized over the loss of her friends, perhaps Sayaka's death can be attributed to Mami's hostility, or perhaps some other outside forces are pitting the two against each other.

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Kyouko Sakura:

Even less is known about Kyouko's role in the film, or whether or not her family is still alive in the new timeline. More surprisingly, however, is that Kyouko appears to now be attending the same school as the other girls, despite living in a different city than the others. She is also seen walking alongside Madoka and Sayaka, almost replacing Hitomi as the third girl in the trio of friends.

It will also be interesting to see if her relationship with Mami will be carried over from the canon backstory, as their relationship prior to the series has never been touched on in animated form.

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Kyubey:

Despite the ruthless planning and deception used to coerce Madoka into making a contract, not even the Incubator was prepared for Madoka's wish rewriting the very laws of the universe. Though Kyubey's role appears unchanged in the New World, it does seem that the relationship between Incubators and humans is less malicious than it was previously.

However, it also appears that Kyubey is not entirely satisfied with the current method for gathering energy (small cubes which are gained from Wraiths), and seems particularly interested in Homura's recollection of Witches. Many scenes in the teaser featuring the much-despised creature hint at more foreboding things to come, including a literal sky-filled shot of Incubator eyes. The original name for the film project was "Incubator's Counterattack", after all.

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Momoe Nagisa:

Recently revealed as a new character for the movie, all that is known about Momoe at this point is that she is a Magical Girl whose wish and abilities are unknown, and that she is much shorter (younger?) than the original five.

Speculations quickly arose from fans, the primary theory being that she is a human version of Kyubey (she does appear to share a similar color scheme in both her hair and outfit). Other theories include her being a different Incubator, the reincarnation of Madoka, or a Magical Girl who was originally a Witch from the previous timeline (namely fan-favorite Charlotte).

Manga:

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Madoka Magica the Manga:

As an adaption of the original series, the manga does not diverge much at all from the original series. The most notable changes are the more angular art-style as well as a far more expressive Kyubey, which has caused mixed reactions among fans.

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Madoka Magica The Different Story:


A three-volume story, the first volume adapts the story of Mami and Kyouko's relationship prior to the series, which was originally released as an audio drama. From there, the manga makes good with its title and offers a different take on the events of the original series while continuing the focus on Mami and Kyouko. The finale manages to feature both one of the most depressing and uplifting moments in the entire franchise, respectively.

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Puella Magi Oriko Magica:

One of the more unique alternate stories, Oriko features three new characters that have yet to appear anywhere else in the series (one good, two bad). Revealing any more would give away the well-done final act, but the only real complaint with this manga is it's short length and abrupt ending.

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Puella Magi Kazumi Magica:

The only work to not feature any of the original cast, Kazumi feels more like a separate work that takes a different spin on the original premise rather than fit in as part of the canon (despite a few familiar faces serving as cameos). Opinions are mixed in this series, so consider it a non-essential part of the franchise.
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Manga Time Kirara Magica:

An officially endorsed magazine that features fan-made stories that are either one-shots or multi-chapter storylines. Many of the stories feature lighthearted "what-if" scenarios, such as the five girls living as sisters under one roof, or as kindergartners with Mami as their teacher, or another that features Mami as a 30 year old single woman who is envious of the other four finding husbands (to the bane of many outraged yuri fans). The stories are cute and occasionally fun, though none of them hold a candle to some of the inspired doujin works featuring great artwork as well as alternate scenarios ranging from heart-warming to heart-wrenching. Here are a few notable doujins below (all safe for work, though the site may display some NSFW ads. Adblock is recommended):

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Games:
Madoka Magica Portable:

The only console game released thus far for the series, Madoka Portable is one-part Visual Novel, one-part dungeon-crawler. The story portions are fully voice-acted and feature many alternate paths, including the possibility for a happier conclusion...as well as several Bad Ends which are even worse than the original.

The gameplay is wholly uninspired, and the story takes some liberties with the characters' behaviors, often using jealousy as an excuse for making boneheaded decisions. The chances of a localization are next to none, but you can check out many translated videos here.

Grief Syndrome:

A fan-made 2D game that feels like an homage to SNES action games, Grief Syndrome lets players pick one of the five girls, each with their own unique abilities and special moves. Two players can also co-op to defeat many familiar enemies and bosses, as well as multiple endings depending on which characters are still alive following the final boss (once a character goes down, they stay dead during the entirety of that run). Highly recommended.
Homura Combat:

A 3D third-person shoot-em-up inspired by Earth Defense Force, this game puts you squarely in control of Homura, who must destroy a certain amount of enemies in each stage utilizing her time powers and an arsenal of weapons. The game is not as polished as Grief Syndrome, but still a fun diversion with destructible environments and a rather catchy soundtrack.
Madoka Magica Online:

A browser-based game where players can create their own original Magical Girls to fight alongside the original five. Features several alternate storylines and events supervised by Urobuchi (which means, of course, that Sayaka must suffer), but is also difficult to play due to the language barrier. It also reportedly features an obnoxious amount of IAPs.

Other Works:
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The Novelization:


As you can guess, this is merely a novel that recounts the series through Madoka's point of view. What makes this adaptation unique is that it features a special prologue chapter that details the first time Madoka and Sayaka met as young children, which has been made canon during the recap films' new intro. Reading about Madoka's admiration and dependance on Sayaka opens up interesting new interpretations for the two's relationship in the original series, specifically Madoka's desire to change the role from protected to protector.

The novel remains untranslated, but you can read the following doujin that recreates the prologue in manga form.

Drama CDs:

Released as DVD extras in Japan, the four audio dramas feature both canon and non-canon stories that vary in tone and chronology. In order, they are as follows:
Drama CD 1 (Memories of You):


The first meeting between Madoka and Homura in the original timeline. It also reveals the story behind the cat in the original intro.
Drama CD 2 (Sunny Day Life):


A lighthearted spoof that features the five girls working together on their studies and Magical Girl duties.

Drama CD 3 (Farewell Story):


Kyouko and Mami's history as Magical Girl partners and best friends prior to the events of the series.

Drama CD 4 (Magical Girl Summer Training Camp):


(video not available on YouTube, though Google may yield a translated vid)

A one-shot special where the five girls (including original glasses Homura) go on vacation at a beach resort. Just a cute story with the five girls hanging out and having fun. No Bad Ends in this one, honest.

Fan Videos:

JesuOtaku's series review

SF Debris' series review

@"Dark Raven X" live reactions

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  • Muse Among MenMuse Among Men Suburban Bunny Princess? Its time for a new shtick Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    The outfits look cute. I am still a little girl at heart at things like that are important to me. I'll give it a look if I can, I haven't seen any anime in a long time.

  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Whew. I worked on that OP for about two hours, so nobody post anything stupid to get this thread locked! Having any anime-related threads on Penny Arcade now is a privilege; don't do anything that might have this privilege revoked!

    With that out of the way, here's a clip of the Puella Magi named Mami Tomoe in action:

    The Best of Mami

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  • SeguerSeguer Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Just chiming in: you start this anime off and it's all magic and happiness, then SNAP.



    Grimdark.



    It is so good because of it.

  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Seguer wrote: »
    Just chiming in: you start this anime off and it's all magic and happiness, then SNAP.



    Grimdark.



    It is so good because of it.

    Yes, yes, I concur.

    So good.

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  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    For those of you who are already watching this show, do you have any theories regarding how it will end (please put your theories in spoiler tags!)?
    Personally, I would not at all be surprised if Homura will finally succeed in defeating the Walpurgisnacht solo, dying in the process. Madoka will end up contracting with Kyubey so that she can make the exact same wish that Homura made.

    Alternatively, Madoka will wish for Homura and the other Puella Magi to come back to life as normal girls, only for Madoka herself to become an all-powerful Witch. The girls will have to contract with Kyubey once again in a desperate, possibly futile attempt to defeat Madoka.

    Of course, there's always the chance that the show will end on a happy note, but it seems so much more likely that a bad ending will occur.

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  • Steel-AngelSteel-Angel Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Homura will give her life and conquer the WPN, her broken body lying in the death-pool from episode 10. As Madoka weeps, Homura will smile and use the last of her strength to raise her soul gem and pistol to Madoka, and beg her to end it before she becomes a witch.

    I wish Homura were either a guy or SHAFT makes the yuri explicit, since Homerun going through hell five times over for platonic friendship feels really odd.

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  • DacDac Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I had heard of this show and seen cutesy art for it everywhere. I only decided to sit down and watch some of it a couple days ago.

    Oh my God. Trap.

    This is such an excellent deconstruction of the genre.
    Though, if wishes can be anything, you'd think one of the better things would be for Kyubey to be explicit in his end goals, and get a girl to either wish for the end of entropy, or just that Kyubey had enough energy to accomplish his goal. This might not occur to Kyubey's people, though, due to their Blue and Orange morality; the idea of putting faith in a human to do something like that for them might be anathema. They clearly either don't understand the concept of trust, as shown in Kyubey's puzzlement over the anger of his less-than-full disclosure of the contract, or they're even more duplicitous than already shown.

    I'm really hoping the series ends on a positive note. This show liked kicking me in the nuts on every episode, though, so I kind of doubt it.

    I think the most positive outcome you could hope to have is the defeat of the WPN - at great cost. Everyone but Homura is dead, and she has very little power left. Kyubey finally learns of the nature of her power, and they strike a deal using Homura's abilities. Homura has just enough energy to send Kyubey back in time, draining the last of her energy and killing herself in the process.

    It's been demonstrated that power follows those that travel through time, as Homura never lost her Puella Magi abilities in the half-dozen times she made the trip back. Future Kyubey would logically keep the energy from the Future WPN's defeat; he would therefore no longer need more contracts, sparing Madoka, Past Homura and Miki from becoming Puella Magi.

    Not sure what they would do about the WPN of that timeline, though. Would it even happen? It definitely seems like Kyubei is manipulating that event to force Madoka's hand in every single timeline, so it might not even be an issue anymore.

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  • KamarKamar Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Man, this show. I'm hoping for a happy ending...
    I wouldn't be surprised if something comes about from the little flashes of remembering Madoka seems to have. If you think about it, bits of memory and power seem to be traveling to each new iteration, as the Madoka from more recent timelines is exponentially stronger than the original one we saw.

    But if it can't end happily, I at least want Fuck Kyubey And His Fucking Race End. Just Madoka wishing for all the energy of the universe to be consumed spelling out EAT A DICK in big letters across the cosmos.

    edit: And yeah, I wish they'd just admit everyone is gay. To hedge and be coy when the pairings are so obvious is just annoying. It's not like the fanbase for a show like this will be offended.

  • Steel-AngelSteel-Angel Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Not everyone's gay but Homura almost certainly is. I don't understand the fascination with Sayaka and Kyouko at all.

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  • KamarKamar Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Well, I figured from Kyouko and Sayaka's very first clash they'd end up paired.

    The whole 'blending magic silhouettes' followed by suiciding with Sayaka thing, after all the rest, pretty much sealed that one.

    As for Madoka herself...well, really. Even if you want to view every single relationship as really-close-but-platonic, I'd still call her out as gay.

    edit for another thought:
    I think my favorite twist in this is that our 'heroine' really isn't. This is Homura's show, no question.

    I'm half expecting a downer ending and an ad for 'Mahou Shoujo Homura Magica' to start up soon, in which Madoka takes over 'fix everything' duties again.


    Really, really hope we don't just get a downer ending as our final resolution, though. I hate sad stories.

    It'd be like watching Ga Rei: Zero if you didn't know about the manga.

  • SeguerSeguer Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Oh god, I watched Ga Rei: Zero without knowing the manga. Not quite as sudden as Puella, but damn.

    Puella Ending:
    Any one think Homura will end up just killing Madoka? The last ep I watched kind of foreshadowed it in the next episode preview..

  • Steel-AngelSteel-Angel Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Homura wouldn't kill her love interest; she'd definitely off herself first if it came to that.

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  • DacDac Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Kamar wrote: »
    Well, I figured from Kyouko and Sayaka's very first clash they'd end up paired.

    The whole 'blending magic silhouettes' followed by suiciding with Sayaka thing, after all the rest, pretty much sealed that one.

    As for Madoka herself...well, really. Even if you want to view every single relationship as really-close-but-platonic, I'd still call her out as gay.
    I'm all for actual successful shoujo ai after getting let down by Cardcaptor Sakura, but I'm not sure I see where Madoka is gay.

    Which isn't to say it's impossible, I just don't see much evidence of sexuality from Madoka at all. The fact that she cares deeply for Homura is clear from the sacrifice she makes in episode 10, and her trust in her from the request she makes, but I don't see that as beyond the realm of nakama.

    Homura is a bit more of a question mark. As pointed out in a previous post, that's an awful lot of shit to put yourself through for a friend - even a best friend. But then, Madoka is Homura's hero. Even from the start, she rescued Homura from an uncomfortable situation, gave her friendship, believed in her when she didn't herself, etc. Madoka gave her everything, so Homura will do anything. Even be a complete badass.

    Does that make her romantically attracted? I dunno, maybe it's part of it. All I know is

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    don't fuck with Madoka.

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  • SeguerSeguer Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Yeah honestly I think you guys are reading too much into the whole "omg they're all gay" thing.

    Dac has it right though. Don't mess with Madoka or
    Homura will reset button your ass

  • Lenore03Lenore03 Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    That Best of Mami video doesn't even have her transformation scene. I mean, come onnnnn. It was still the best as of ep 6, when I stopped watching. I'll finish the show when the BDs slide through my letter slot.

  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Seguer wrote: »
    Just chiming in: you start this anime off and it's all magic and happiness, then SNAP.



    Grimdark.



    It is so good because of it.

    Sorta like Mai hime but ideally without that stupid reversal at the end?

    If so sign me up

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  • TeaSpoonTeaSpoon Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I'm sure this anime is good, but, ugghhh, any mod looking at the op will set back our cause another two or three months. Couldn't you have chosen something less... Well, you know what I mean, even if it's a deconstruction or whatever.

  • shadowaneshadowane Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    So is this still on tv or is it available on netflix?

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  • simonwolfsimonwolf Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Just submitted my thesis abstract, gonna write on this bad boy of a series, oh boy, shooting myself in the foot already
    shadowane wrote: »
    So is this still on tv or is it available on netflix?

    It's currently playing on Japanese television, yes, the final episode should be airing on the 25th of March. I do not think it has been licensed to any non-Japanese company so far.

  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Sorta like Mai hime but ideally without that stupid reversal at the end?

    Hopefully.

    Mai HiME started out with a touch of humor, went completely serious, and then in the last episode suddenly rebounded to slapstick. Madoka Magica didn't start out humorous, so I don't think it should be a problem here.

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  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    TeaSpoon wrote: »
    I'm sure this anime is good, but, ugghhh, any mod looking at the op will set back our cause another two or three months. Couldn't you have chosen something less... Well, you know what I mean, even if it's a deconstruction or whatever.

    I assume you're talking about the image of the Puella Magi themselves. I wasn't about to make an OP without a single image of the characters, and I can't help the art style the show chose.

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  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    That one image IS a little close to lolupskirt view.

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  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Seguer wrote: »
    Yeah honestly I think you guys are reading too much into the whole "omg they're all gay" thing.

    Yeah, really.

    Regarding Homura and Madoka, I'm more inclined to believe it's a case of behavioral disorder han romance.
    Homura was a sickly, shy girl who was nearly convinced to commit suicide by a Witch. Madoka acted as a friend to her, her only friend, and saved her life. Seeing her only friend in the world die in battle is hard enough, but she also knew that she could have contributed to the fight against Walpurgisnacht and possibly saved Madoka had she become a Puella Magi.

    I also think that Homura might be angry that she is dependent on Madoka for her happiness. The Madoka of the current timeline is much less confident, acting in some ways more like Homura did in her home timeline. When Homura is walking to the nurse's office with Madoka prattling on, we see that she has an angry look on her face. She might be disgusted that Madoka, the strong and confident person that she has endured the apocalypse multiple times to save, has degenerated into someone radically unlike the person Homura befriended.

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  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Kagera wrote: »
    That one image IS a little close to lolupskirt view.

    Really? I just thought it was a cool image that also lined-up the characters in a way convenient for my purposes.

    I think you guys are just being paranoid, but I guess I'll try to find a different image.

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  • Lenore03Lenore03 Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Nah it's fine. Now if you had happened to post the op, then I think we'd have a problem.

  • Steel-AngelSteel-Angel Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
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  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I have no idea what that's a reference to.

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  • Steel-AngelSteel-Angel Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    40k. Kharn the Betrayer made a wish.

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  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    That reminds me; isn't it kind of odd that you are required to make a wish before one can become a Puella Magi?

    Sayaka and Madoka both seemed to be open to the idea of becoming Puella Magi at first, but they couldn't think of a wish. Is making a wish required so that
    Kyubey can use the wish to facilitate transforming a Puella Magi into a Witch?

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  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Episode 9+ specific spoilers: Does anyone else suspect that
    Kyubey's claims about entropy and the Puella Magi's role in forestalling the end of the universe is a lie?
    It might very well not be, but I'm not 100% convinced.

    Also, where did the Walpurgisnacht come from? Is it
    another former Puella Magi? I think it could have been a Puella Magi from an alien race that was destroyed by it.

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  • SeguerSeguer Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    Episode 9+ specific spoilers: Does anyone else suspect that
    Kyubey's claims about entropy and the Puella Magi's role in forestalling the end of the universe is a lie?
    It might very well not be, but I'm not 100% convinced.

    Also, where did the Walpurgisnacht come from? Is it
    another former Puella Magi? I think it could have been a Puella Magi from an alien race that was destroyed by it.
    I believe it has been stated that only Human female teenagers have the requisite outburst of emotion to become proper Peulla Magi?

  • TertieeTertiee Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    Episode 9+ specific spoilers: Does anyone else suspect that
    Kyubey's claims about entropy and the Puella Magi's role in forestalling the end of the universe is a lie?
    It might very well not be, but I'm not 100% convinced.
    The show has made a point that Kyubey makes lies of omission, never direct ones. I suspect there are more details that he hasn't stated but I don't think preventing the energy death of the universe is a lie.

  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Seguer wrote: »
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    Episode 9+ specific spoilers: Does anyone else suspect that
    Kyubey's claims about entropy and the Puella Magi's role in forestalling the end of the universe is a lie?
    It might very well not be, but I'm not 100% convinced.

    Also, where did the Walpurgisnacht come from? Is it
    another former Puella Magi? I think it could have been a Puella Magi from an alien race that was destroyed by it.
    I believe it has been stated that only Human female teenagers have the requisite outburst of emotion to become proper Peulla Magi?
    What about the timelines in which Madoka transforms into a Witch and destroys the world? Unless her transformation yields enough energy to sustain the universe forever, surely Kyubey's race would need other life forms to replace humanity after their destruction by Madoka's Witch.

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  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo A lemon squeezed in the salty fist of Poseidon Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Well, I started on this. Only seen the first two episodes, but I'm starting to wonder if this is just some kind of elaborate joke being played on me.

    Still, there's some odd appeal but I can't help but feel it would work better as a computer game. Possibly it has a Persona-like feel, just with magic transformations.

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  • ZandraconZandracon Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Seguer wrote: »
    Just chiming in: you start this anime off and it's all magic and happiness, then SNAP.



    Grimdark.



    It is so good because of it.

    Sorta like Mai hime but ideally without that stupid reversal at the end?

    If so sign me up

    Coincidentally, they both have the same composer, Yuki Kajiura. I can't wait for the OST for this series to come out.

  • poshnialloposhniallo Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Just started watching the first ep and some of the animation reminds me of Mononoke (not Mononoke Hime, but the series about the ghost-hunting apothecary).

    Which reminds me I must watch that Blanko series by the same people.

    I figure I could take a bear.
  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    Well, I started on this. Only seen the first two episodes, but I'm starting to wonder if this is just some kind of elaborate joke being played on me.

    You have to watch episode three. If you still want to give up on it after episode three, that's okay. But please watch episode three.

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  • kdrudykdrudy Registered User
    edited March 2011
    Seguer wrote: »
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    Episode 9+ specific spoilers: Does anyone else suspect that
    Kyubey's claims about entropy and the Puella Magi's role in forestalling the end of the universe is a lie?
    It might very well not be, but I'm not 100% convinced.

    Also, where did the Walpurgisnacht come from? Is it
    another former Puella Magi? I think it could have been a Puella Magi from an alien race that was destroyed by it.
    I believe it has been stated that only Human female teenagers have the requisite outburst of emotion to become proper Peulla Magi?
    I think it was more that they had the best return on creating emotional energy. They could get it other places but none quite as potent.

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  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    kdrudy wrote: »
    Seguer wrote: »
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    Episode 9+ specific spoilers: Does anyone else suspect that
    Kyubey's claims about entropy and the Puella Magi's role in forestalling the end of the universe is a lie?
    It might very well not be, but I'm not 100% convinced.

    Also, where did the Walpurgisnacht come from? Is it
    another former Puella Magi? I think it could have been a Puella Magi from an alien race that was destroyed by it.
    I believe it has been stated that only Human female teenagers have the requisite outburst of emotion to become proper Peulla Magi?
    I think it was more that they had the best return on creating emotional energy. They could get it other places but none quite as potent.
    This makes me further wonder about the purpose of the Walpurgisnacht. Why would Kyubey want to risk wiping out his race's greatest source of energy?

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  • DacDac Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Kyubey openly states to Homura after the defeat of the WPN that he has more than enough energy to counter the entropy. Didn't even need to kill Witch Madoka for it.

    His 'fuck yall got mine' attitude doesn't make a whole lot of sense given that the energy that he obtained isn't infinite, but perhaps his race assumes that mankind will have long since gone extinct by the time they need energy again.

    But... then why wouldn't he want to protect mankind? Maybe he just really hates us for making him have to stay in his current form (I'm assuming that's not his real body).

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