Damn, I've missed around 70 pages of the DA thread now :shock:
Anyway, I need some advice on the Isabela romance:
So I've just finished her companion quest in Act 3 and did the talk in the Hanged Man afterwards where she's all "I'm falling for you!" *smooch smooch* etc.
However, I've also found her gift in Act 3, the Rivaini fertility talisman, and when I give her that and she mentions it's also a sign of love, the only responses I can give her are decidedly "anti-love"..even the one marked with a heart, indicating a romance option ("I only want lust" or something like that).
I've reloaded an earlier save and decided to hold off on giving her the talisman for now..anyone know if giving her the gift will screw up the romance somehow?
Just choose the heart option, it might be a sarcastic "I just want lust" and isabella appreciates sarcasm.
I just played through the Dalish Elf Origin, or at least part of it since I'm waiting for a patch to fix the many bugs in DA 2.
Good lord, Merrill might as well be a different character. She has a different VA, a different look and overall a different personality in both games. I prefer the sequel's incarnation by far.
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edited March 2011
I thought that Qunari mage you help was going to be some companion that I completely forgot about.
Then he went and immolated himself.
Also, the Qunari leader in the city was animated so well in your initial meeting. His movements were so slow and deliberate, making him look really powerful.
I thought that Qunari mage you help was going to be some companion that I completely forgot about.
Then he went and immolated himself.
Also, the Qunari leader in the city was animated so well in your initial meeting. His movements were so slow and deliberate, making him look really powerful.
Yeah, too bad you can't romance the Arishok. He's pretty awesome.
I thought that Qunari mage you help was going to be some companion that I completely forgot about.
Then he went and immolated himself.
Also, the Qunari leader in the city was animated so well in your initial meeting. His movements were so slow and deliberate, making him look really powerful.
Yeah.
Act 2 ending spoilers
I really championed for him, I really did up to that point. My FemHawke kind of wanted as much peace as there could be, but after seeing the viscount's head - why kill him - and him threatening to take Isabela, who's my pirate whore bro, I had to challenge, duel and kill him. I'm sorry Arishok, you seemed cool enough.
They got locked after a Bioware employee was found to have given the game a 10 on metacritic. Rage ensued.
And how many people who haven't even played more than the demo have given it a poor rating?
That reminds me of pre-order reviews on Amazon where the review is
"OH MY GAWD I KNOW THIS ISN'T OUT YET BUT IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT 10 STARS++++"
Kind of how I felt. I mean yeah, not cool dude, but at the same time didn't some forum attack the game on metacritic many having never played it? Who really pays attention to user scores anyway. They are almost always bogus.
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edited March 2011
Yeah...basically...I'll sum the whole forum issue up from what I've gathered.
1) Guy gets banned from forums(more than likely because he deserved it)
2) Internet Freedom Fighters(Hey you can't do that!)
3) Bioware employee posts positive review of game he worked on(even though it wasn't a professional review at all!)
4) Internet Freedom Fighters(Hey you can't do that!)
5) Troll Troll Troll
6) Closed forum
Everyone seems to hate Carver. Poor Carver. Is there anyway to befriend him? He starts with a pretty hefty rivalry and seems to gain rivalry points for just about everything.
Of course, this is my asshole Hawke run, so I'm only asking academically, my intent this time is to rival every one of my companions.
Playing Fem Hawke and I just killed Hayder, was I suppose to say something to Isabella to romance her? I didn't see the option.
Also fights are much more difficult as a rogue, not sure what to do, I only have one tank now and I think that is the problem, it really was easy as a 2h Hawke. Aveline tanks a big guy, Hawke kills all the little guys and varric kills the bigger little guys, Anders supports, worked perfectly.
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DragkoniasThat Guy Who Does StuffYou Know, There. Registered Userregular
edited March 2011
...I don't know. Carver is
only with you during the first act...I don't think that's enough time to rest his friendship.
Wow.... just wow... Forbidden Knowledge quest fail twice... Good job, Zack...
Seriously?....
Reading any book that is not the last one causes the quest to be un-finishable and causes you to lose out on the Xebenkeck fight
I read a spoiler on where to find them only, but stopped before it mentioned anything to do with the aftermath, so I stopped before reading the spoilered issue with the quest. If this was an intended "feature" of the quest, I'm sorry but that's just horrible.
Well, to be frank, there are a couple people in the DA2 threads here that have been borderline white knighting the game's (well more often EA's) bad decisions to the point of silly as well. Mentioning names or going into it more than that is begging for an internet fight, so I'll just say I've seen it on both sides, really bad in some cases, and leave it at that.
Metacritic thing is stupid though, as I'm pretty sure a lot of those didn't bother playing the game at all. Not that I'm against writing comments that explain their issues with the game there, but actually downvoting the score is dishonest, since that's reserved for the gameplay itself.
Really, it's more the fans refusing to admit any faults that turned me off ME2.
Everyone seems to hate Carver. Poor Carver. Is there anyway to befriend him? He starts with a pretty hefty rivalry and seems to gain rivalry points for just about everything.
Of course, this is my asshole Hawke run, so I'm only asking academically, my intent this time is to rival every one of my companions.
You can, potentially, befriend him by deferring to him and acting really understanding about Fereldan and stuff.
Its just, you know, useless and a waste of time.
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Well, to be frank, there are a couple people in the DA2 threads here that have been borderline white knighting the game's (well more often EA's) bad decisions to the point of silly as well. Mentioning names or going into it more than that is begging for an internet fight, so I'll just say I've seen it on both sides, really bad in some cases, and leave it at that.
Metacritic thing is stupid though, as I'm pretty sure a lot of those didn't bother playing the game at all. Not that I'm against writing comments that explain their issues with the game there, but actually downvoting the score is dishonest, since that's reserved for the gameplay itself.
Really, it's more the fans refusing to admit any faults that turned me off ME2.
Spoit, we admitted ME2 has flaws.
We just don't think they ruin the game like you do.
Well, to be frank, there are a couple people in the DA2 threads here that have been borderline white knighting the game's (well more often EA's) bad decisions to the point of silly as well. Mentioning names or going into it more than that is begging for an internet fight, so I'll just say I've seen it on both sides, really bad in some cases, and leave it at that.
Metacritic thing is stupid though, as I'm pretty sure a lot of those didn't bother playing the game at all. Not that I'm against writing comments that explain their issues with the game there, but actually downvoting the score is dishonest, since that's reserved for the gameplay itself.
Really, it's more the fans refusing to admit any faults that turned me off ME2.
Spoit, we admitted ME2 has flaws.
We just don't think they ruin the game like you do.
And excessive praise is the last problem I think you'll find with Dragon Age II. Considering even the most glowing of reviews on this forum have caveats.
Well, to be frank, there are a couple people in the DA2 threads here that have been borderline white knighting the game's (well more often EA's) bad decisions to the point of silly as well. Mentioning names or going into it more than that is begging for an internet fight, so I'll just say I've seen it on both sides, really bad in some cases, and leave it at that.
Metacritic thing is stupid though, as I'm pretty sure a lot of those didn't bother playing the game at all. Not that I'm against writing comments that explain their issues with the game there, but actually downvoting the score is dishonest, since that's reserved for the gameplay itself.
Really, it's more the fans refusing to admit any faults that turned me off ME2.
Spoit, we admitted ME2 has flaws.
We just don't think they ruin the game like you do.
And excessive praise is the last problem I think you'll find with Dragon Age II. Considering even the most glowing of reviews on this forum have caveats.
Considering how much people on this forum hatted the original, even compared to ME1 hate?
Wow.... just wow... Forbidden Knowledge quest fail twice... Good job, Zack...
Seriously?....
Reading any book that is not the last one causes the quest to be un-finishable and causes you to lose out on the Xebenkeck fight
I read a spoiler on where to find them only, but stopped before it mentioned anything to do with the aftermath, so I stopped before reading the spoilered issue with the quest. If this was an intended "feature" of the quest, I'm sorry but that's just horrible.
3rd times the charm, I guess.
uh that's kind of how it works
destroying the books causes Xebenkeck to appear it is not like a big secret there
that is the quest
the fact that you actually can read the last seems more likely to be a bug than anything
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DragkoniasThat Guy Who Does StuffYou Know, There. Registered Userregular
edited March 2011
I for one would destroy anything called..."evil tome"
Well, to be frank, there are a couple people in the DA2 threads here that have been borderline white knighting the game's (well more often EA's) bad decisions to the point of silly as well. Mentioning names or going into it more than that is begging for an internet fight, so I'll just say I've seen it on both sides, really bad in some cases, and leave it at that.
Metacritic thing is stupid though, as I'm pretty sure a lot of those didn't bother playing the game at all. Not that I'm against writing comments that explain their issues with the game there, but actually downvoting the score is dishonest, since that's reserved for the gameplay itself.
Really, it's more the fans refusing to admit any faults that turned me off ME2.
Spoit, we admitted ME2 has flaws.
We just don't think they ruin the game like you do.
And excessive praise is the last problem I think you'll find with Dragon Age II. Considering even the most glowing of reviews on this forum have caveats.
Considering how much people on this forum hatted the original, even compared to ME1 hate?
And you'll notice even those people have been criticizing,
The Meredith/Orsino direction at the end especially but also,
The repetitive maps, The combat waves, and slamming certain characters as one note or stupid a lot harder than the Mass Effect thread ever did. Remember the game came out last week and is already catching significant flak from the people who loved it.
I was kind of irritated by that too. I picked up the books figuring I could destroy them later and that maybe I'd find out something about them. But they're just trash loot if you pick them up apparently.
I'm hearing all this shit about the Bioware forums and I'm kind of tempted to go there out of morbid curiosity...
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DragkoniasThat Guy Who Does StuffYou Know, There. Registered Userregular
edited March 2011
Jowan didn't save anything except for my knife hitting the floor...with his gut.
I mean I'm just saying...would you eat something called "evil peanut butter" or drink "evil cola"?
This reminded me of this scene for some reason.
Shopkeeper: Take this object, but beware it carries a terrible curse!
Homer: Ooh, that's bad.
Shopkeeper: But it comes with a free frogurt!
Homer: That's good.
Shopkeeper: The frogurt is also cursed.
Homer: That's bad.
Shopkeeper: But you get your choice of toppings.
Homer: That's good!
Shopkeeper: The toppings contain potassium benzoate.
[Homer looks puzzled]
Shopkeeper: ...That's bad.
Homer: Can I go now?
I for one would destroy anything called..."evil tome"
But surely the knowledge contained in the evil tomes isn't inherently evil. I'm sure it can be used for good, just like blood magic.
But... we've seen blood magic used for good. Like a lot. How many people used the blood magic spec in Origins and here?
Or Jowan saving Conner.
Or Merrill in general.
The tomes... not so much.
Jowen didn't save Conner on any DA:O run I played through. ;-)
I always enjoyed selling him out to First Enchanter Irving, along with that dumbass Lilly. Irving was my kind of guy, strong, wise, and just a little bit vindictive.
I thought that Qunari mage you help was going to be some companion that I completely forgot about.
Then he went and immolated himself.
Also, the Qunari leader in the city was animated so well in your initial meeting. His movements were so slow and deliberate, making him look really powerful.
Yeah, too bad you can't romance the Arishok. He's pretty awesome.
Also has most of the best lines.
So far, the only dialog I've found to be as good is talking to Carver after Birthright, especially if you pick the agressive options:
Hawke: "Feel good getting that off your chest?"
Carver: "I... I suppose."
Hawke: "Good, because I keep every death with me. If you want that weight, be sure you're ready to take it."
or...
Hawke: "You'll not use her against me like that, she deserves better."
Carver: "Then you should have given better."
Hawke: "I gave everything! Question me, Mother, yourself, but not that!"
Carver might be an ass, but he's such a good foil to MageHawke... and so fun to put into his place.
I for one would destroy anything called..."evil tome"
But surely the knowledge contained in the evil tomes isn't inherently evil. I'm sure it can be used for good, just like blood magic.
But... we've seen blood magic used for good. Like a lot. How many people used the blood magic spec in Origins and here?
Or Jowan saving Conner.
Or Merrill in general.
The tomes... not so much.
Jowen didn't save Conner on any DA:O run I played through. ;-)
I always enjoyed selling him out to First Enchanter Irving, along with that dumbass Lilly. Irving was my kind of guy, strong, wise, and just a little bit vindictive.
Yeah, he never did on mine because I was a mage and seriously, fuck Jowan. I am so glad I was wrong about him being the Mage party member returning from a small part in Origins.
I thought that Qunari mage you help was going to be some companion that I completely forgot about.
Then he went and immolated himself.
Also, the Qunari leader in the city was animated so well in your initial meeting. His movements were so slow and deliberate, making him look really powerful.
Yeah, too bad you can't romance the Arishok. He's pretty awesome.
Also has most of the best lines.
So far, the only dialog I've found to be as good is talking to Carver after Birthright, especially if you pick the agressive options:
Hawke: "Feel good getting that off your chest?"
Carver: "I... I suppose."
Hawke: "Good, because I keep every death with me. If you want that weight, be sure you're ready to take it."
or...
Hawke: "You'll not use her against me like that, she deserves better."
Carver: "Then you should have given better."
Hawke: "I gave everything! Question me, Mother, yourself, but not that!"
Carver might be an ass, but he's such a good foil to MageHawke... and so fun to put into his place.
I agree about Carver. I've enjoyed the interplay between him and my asshole Hawke far more than Bethany. My only regret is, as I said earlier, Bethany ended up with an extremely awesome appearance this time around for some reason.
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Just choose the heart option, it might be a sarcastic "I just want lust" and isabella appreciates sarcasm.
I did find this though
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6481140
I think I got trolled.
Sad they had to go to that length, this is kinda silly now.
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Also, the Qunari leader in the city was animated so well in your initial meeting. His movements were so slow and deliberate, making him look really powerful.
Yeah, too bad you can't romance the Arishok. He's pretty awesome.
Yeah.
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And how many people who haven't even played more than the demo have given it a poor rating?
That reminds me of pre-order reviews on Amazon where the review is
"OH MY GAWD I KNOW THIS ISN'T OUT YET BUT IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT 10 STARS++++"
Kind of how I felt. I mean yeah, not cool dude, but at the same time didn't some forum attack the game on metacritic many having never played it? Who really pays attention to user scores anyway. They are almost always bogus.
1) Guy gets banned from forums(more than likely because he deserved it)
2) Internet Freedom Fighters(Hey you can't do that!)
3) Bioware employee posts positive review of game he worked on(even though it wasn't a professional review at all!)
4) Internet Freedom Fighters(Hey you can't do that!)
5) Troll Troll Troll
6) Closed forum
Sounds stupid to me.
Too soon, bro.
Hey...at least I didn't laugh at all those people covered in dust during 9/11. That shows I'm not a completely insensitive human being.
Okay...I did laugh a little.
Of course, this is my asshole Hawke run, so I'm only asking academically, my intent this time is to rival every one of my companions.
Also fights are much more difficult as a rogue, not sure what to do, I only have one tank now and I think that is the problem, it really was easy as a 2h Hawke. Aveline tanks a big guy, Hawke kills all the little guys and varric kills the bigger little guys, Anders supports, worked perfectly.
Seriously?....
I read a spoiler on where to find them only, but stopped before it mentioned anything to do with the aftermath, so I stopped before reading the spoilered issue with the quest. If this was an intended "feature" of the quest, I'm sorry but that's just horrible.
3rd times the charm, I guess.
Really, it's more the fans refusing to admit any faults that turned me off ME2.
You can, potentially, befriend him by deferring to him and acting really understanding about Fereldan and stuff.
Spoit, we admitted ME2 has flaws.
We just don't think they ruin the game like you do.
And excessive praise is the last problem I think you'll find with Dragon Age II. Considering even the most glowing of reviews on this forum have caveats.
Considering how much people on this forum hatted the original, even compared to ME1 hate?
that is the quest
the fact that you actually can read the last seems more likely to be a bug than anything
And you'll notice even those people have been criticizing,
The repetitive maps, The combat waves, and slamming certain characters as one note or stupid a lot harder than the Mass Effect thread ever did. Remember the game came out last week and is already catching significant flak from the people who loved it.
But surely the knowledge contained in the evil tomes isn't inherently evil. I'm sure it can be used for good, just like blood magic.
But... we've seen blood magic used for good. Like a lot. How many people used the blood magic spec in Origins and here?
Or Jowan saving Conner.
Or Merrill in general.
The tomes... not so much.
I'm hearing all this shit about the Bioware forums and I'm kind of tempted to go there out of morbid curiosity...
This reminded me of this scene for some reason.
Jowen didn't save Conner on any DA:O run I played through. ;-)
Also has most of the best lines.
So far, the only dialog I've found to be as good is talking to Carver after Birthright, especially if you pick the agressive options:
Carver: "I... I suppose."
Hawke: "Good, because I keep every death with me. If you want that weight, be sure you're ready to take it."
or...
Hawke: "You'll not use her against me like that, she deserves better."
Carver: "Then you should have given better."
Hawke: "I gave everything! Question me, Mother, yourself, but not that!"
Carver might be an ass, but he's such a good foil to MageHawke... and so fun to put into his place.
Yeah, he never did on mine because I was a mage and seriously, fuck Jowan. I am so glad I was wrong about him being the Mage party member returning from a small part in Origins.
Gah, he was the worst.
I agree about Carver. I've enjoyed the interplay between him and my asshole Hawke far more than Bethany. My only regret is, as I said earlier, Bethany ended up with an extremely awesome appearance this time around for some reason.