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Proposal for new hotel next to BCEC

thespianthespian Registered User
edited March 2011 in PAX Archive
http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/12003826969398/state-panel-reviews-convention-center-hotel-proposal/
Boston officials hope a possible hotel expansion plan will make the city a top convention destination.

A state panel is reviewing a proposal for a new 1,000 room hotel next to the Boston Convention and Exhibition Center in south Boston.

I thought I'd flag this for those of you who don't, you know, follow the Boston convention and tourist news (red hot though it is. yow).

Sure won't be relevant for 2012, but might be a big boon for 2013.

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  • WingedillidanWingedillidan Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I think PAX itself will at least bring Boston up to a solid 2 on the convention city rank list.

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  • techsvengalitechsvengali Registered User
    edited March 2011
    So this and the Westin Boston Waterfront will serve the convention, nice.

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  • dyaballikldyaballikl PAX Main Theatre House & Security Manager • PAX Community Cartographer Gold Coast QLD AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Wow, public funds used to build a hotel? Does that mean it'll be a publicly owned hotel (as in, by the MCCA)?

    I don't know the financing procedures for building new hotels, but I'd think private ones are usually built with, ya know, private funds.

    An MCCA owned hotel could be interesting. Hopefully it'd be cheaper.

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  • CaldvanCaldvan Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Some areas of the country have a habit of using public funds to back private ventures (most clearly seen in stadiums). I think it may be MCCA owned, but its not clear. For that matter, I think the Westin might be some sort of public-private thing.

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  • ImperfectImperfect Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    It SORT of makes sense - it WILL be a boon to the public to have a massive hotel drawing people into the city.

    But it is very grey-area.

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  • crimsong19crimsong19 Registered User
    edited March 2011
    Wonderful :)

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  • jujujuju Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Boston loaned a buncha money to the W to build on Stuart St and it still almost went bankrupt.

    We'll see how this goes.

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  • BekerBeker Child's Play Program Director SeattleRegistered User, Penny Arcade Staff regular
    edited March 2011
    It could be built using public funds and then sold or leased once completed. Just because public funds go to building it, doesn't mean that money won't come back into the coffers. That also lets MCCA have more control about placement, style, connections, etc.

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  • Moe FwackyMoe Fwacky Moderator mod
    edited March 2011
    A new hotel would be nice, but they really need more places to eat and shop in the area. It's like a ghost town once you leave the Westin/BCEC. The walk to 7-11 was almost completely deserted. A barren wasteland of office buildings that are completely empty on the weekend.

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  • ImperfectImperfect Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    We walked like six blocks to the nearest pharmacy so I could pick up some desperately-needed Advil, yeah.

    Although if you are looking for a good restaurant, the Atlantic Beer Gardin is like a 5m walk away, does morning brunches on the weekend, and has Sam Adams Brick Red - a very tasty beer that you cannot get outside of certain select restaurants in Boston. I highly, HIGHLY recommend it. It's a solid 10% of why I'm looking forward to PAX next year.

    (10% sound low to you? SERIOUSLY THERE IS SO MUCH AWESOME AT PAX I FEEL BAD THAT THIS IS AS *HIGH* AS 10%.)

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  • arsonisfunarsonisfun Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Moe Fwacky wrote: »
    A new hotel would be nice, but they really need more places to eat and shop in the area. It's like a ghost town once you leave the Westin/BCEC. The walk to 7-11 was almost completely deserted. A barren wasteland of office buildings that are completely empty on the weekend.

    Only way that'd change is if people actually started living in that area ...

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  • Moe FwackyMoe Fwacky Moderator mod
    edited March 2011
    You've got one year.

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  • Krag123Krag123 Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I approve of this expansion, although with all the roads criss crossing through that spot its going to be hard for them to place it right next the the BCEC. I would suspect the other hotels will complain though about them steeling business.

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  • KilonumKilonum [E] Somewhere near BostonRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    What other hotels?

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  • flatlineflatline Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Moe Fwacky wrote: »
    A new hotel would be nice, but they really need more places to eat and shop in the area. It's like a ghost town once you leave the Westin/BCEC. The walk to 7-11 was almost completely deserted. A barren wasteland of office buildings that are completely empty on the weekend.

    Yeah, I agree, but part of me thinks it's in the hotel/convention center's interest NOT to have more reasons to leave their properties. Just like the casinos in Vegas, the BCEC would be happiest if you never left, because that means you might be spending money somewhere else.

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  • jma00a1jma00a1 Registered User
    edited March 2011
    flatline wrote: »
    Moe Fwacky wrote: »
    A new hotel would be nice, but they really need more places to eat and shop in the area. It's like a ghost town once you leave the Westin/BCEC. The walk to 7-11 was almost completely deserted. A barren wasteland of office buildings that are completely empty on the weekend.

    Yeah, I agree, but part of me thinks it's in the hotel/convention center's interest NOT to have more reasons to leave their properties. Just like the casinos in Vegas, the BCEC would be happiest if you never left, because that means you might be spending money somewhere else.

    And of course they want you buying their 12 dollar meal deals (1 hot dog and a small coke).

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  • f0cusf0cus Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    They need to expand the area around the BCEC first. Man, what a dump. Also, any boston natives know what the deal is with EVERYTHING being closed on sundays?

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  • RDubbRDubb Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    f0cus wrote: »
    They need to expand the area around the BCEC first. Man, what a dump. Also, any boston natives know what the deal is with EVERYTHING being closed on sundays?

    It may not look like it to you, but the Seaport area has undergone drastic improvements over the last 15 years or so. There was a time when the area was actually used for marine-based commerce and the yuppy 20-something professional crowed stayed out. If you're expecting it to turn into a major retail hub, don't hold your breath. It's going to be a long time before the Seaport starts looking like the Back Bay.

    As for the Sunday thing, what was closed? A city is a city. You can get anything you want, no matter the day, if you look hard enough.

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  • f0cusf0cus Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Breugers, Starbucks, Dunkin Donuts (big gasp there), etc. Basically "morning staples" that I expect to be open just weren't. We literally couldn't find a single place open between our hotel (Intercontinental Boston) and the BCEC. I've just never seen major chains closed on sundays in any major city.

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