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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Man, Johnny, how'd you get to be 30 without realizing that most people, everywhere, have no idea what the fuck they're doing?

    I don't mean that in a patronizing, "WE FORUMERS ARE ABOVE IT ALL" sort of way, but just, like, Sturgeon's Law, man.

    It never gets better.
    Everything is more complicated than you think. You only see a tenth of what is true. There are a million little strings attached to every choice you make; you can destroy your life every time you choose. But maybe you won't know for twenty years. And you may never ever trace it to its source. And you only get one chance to play it out. Just try and figure out your own divorce. And they say there is no fate, but there is: it's what you create. And even though the world goes on for eons and eons, you are only here for a fraction of a fraction of a second. Most of your time is spent being dead or not yet born. But while alive, you wait in vain, wasting years, for a phone call or a letter or a look from someone or something to make it all right. And it never comes or it seems to but it doesn't really. And so you spend your time in vague regret or vaguer hope that something good will come along. Something to make you feel connected, something to make you feel whole, something to make you feel loved. And the truth is I feel so angry, and the truth is I feel so fucking sad, and the truth is I've felt so fucking hurt for so fucking long and for just as long I've been pretending I'm OK, just to get along, just for, I don't know why, maybe because no one wants to hear about my misery, because they have their own. Well, fuck everybody. Amen.

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    JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Place at the tableRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Koshian wrote: »
    Koshian wrote: »
    yeah for-profit schools are being cracked down on now, thank goodness.

    And yet, I still know people at Full Sail.

    Jeez, that place.

    cracked down on in the way the us government cracks down on things that aren't drugs/black people

    so like, a stern word and ...?

    my fav is the massive market in highly profitable distance learning for people on the GI bill man that shit is wrong that is the 500 dollar hammer of our time

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I went to the one where two of your friends dive out windows and one of them goes streaking past a mutual pal's dorm window while you're watching, then spits himself on a bike rack, and you never talk about it and get homicidally stressed, then someone in your circle gets murdered and it's a national theater trial. Oh, and you're sick as a fucking dog the whole time and no one will be able to tell you why for at least six more years...

    perhaps you have seen our tshirts at local sporting events

    But really, that's neither here nor there. That's just shit that happens.

    I am more talking about the expectation that college would be a place of greater intellectual rigor, creativity, and academic freedom, and it turning out to be all the same games and politics and bureaucracy and generalized horse-shit

    Yes, part of that is DEFINITELY the specific institution I attended - and I shant be back, to say the least.

    I guess I glossed over my real point - the feeling of disconnection I was going through as everyone around me seemed to be enjoying this right of passage while all I felt was dreary sameness.

    I hate feeling left out. I hate talking to people about my thoughts and experiences and opinions and getting that look - Bill Hicks described as being look of "a monkey trying to figure out a card trick."

    Parents, teachers, bosses, friends, then college teachers, co workers, etc.

    That look has been a dominant experience in my life. I'm trying to figure out if there's a place without that look and/or if it's a more common experience than I think.

    So big or small - what experiences can you just not seem to share with the rest of society?

    edit: FWIW I don't actually play MMOs, btw. It was just one of those things where an abstract analogy pops into mind at a point where you have a rare change to use it in front of an audience that will get it. And they weren't really even a thing yet when I was a freshman in college. I'm ANCIENT. Almost ready for Carousel.
    Johnny.

    By the sounds of it you are missing out on what everyone is doing.

    Because they are doing what you don't want to do.

    If you want to be a sheep go and do some kegstands or whatever.

    If you want to study, do that.

    Saying that you don't need to go to college to get a job.

    I mean I have a degree, but I recognise they aren't for everyone.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Koshian wrote: »
    that is charlie kaufman's best movie, just fyi.

    I prefer Adaptation, but my love for SNY is mighty

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I really like being held back a class for "missing" too many lectures because I was out sick with mono to the point where I couldn't even get out of bed. I still did my lab work and shit from my laptop and still maintained the highest grade in the class. But nope, wasn't present so I was dropped from a single class!

    Fuck you ITT Tech.

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    JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Place at the tableRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Blake T wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    Blake T wrote: »
    Man, college is like anything.

    You get exactly what you put into it.

    Americans like to bang on about their college experience do you know why? Because that's how they justify to their parents why they did a degree and still don't have a job.

    The reason why they don't have a job is because they did fuck all besides smoking weed and complaining about how life sucks because everyone doesn't follow your political ideas.

    You don't go to college for a fucking experience, you go there to work hard and with a goal to get a job.

    Suck it up finish your degree and go get a job.

    Possibly stop whining.

    That's what I did, it's what I usually say, and I catch crap from people about "it's not job training, it's an experience".

    I'm glad someone else has the same view as me about college, even if it's a person who is a descendant of criminals on some island in Mordor.
    This is the opinion of most people outside America.

    How is it hating freedom?

    I actually had such a strong "you're just there to get a job" complex that I got a job and dropped out. Kinda backfired on me. Being a TEENY bit more into the "experience" would have kept me there I think.

    I do wish we did the military thing, though. If nothing else, because it would give you a sample of doing some different things and I think it would help people know better what to pursue in college. I would have went that way, in fact, out of financial need if nothing else, had I not gotten a scholarship late in my senior year...

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Koshian wrote: »
    why does nic cage have to be so good in so many good movies and then suddenly he's ghostrider. why you doin this to yaself cagey baby
    Koshian do not act like that was the first bad movie he was in.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Koshian wrote: »
    why does nic cage have to be so good in so many good movies and then suddenly he's ghostrider. why you doin this to yaself cagey baby

    Ghostrider 2, however, is being helmed by Neveldine/Taylor.

    They did Crank 2!

    Oh my goodness, their methed-out brand of pubescent, misogynistic, racist, homophobic, ludicrous brilliance, with the sure-to-be-unhinged Nic Cage at the center?

    OPENING. DAY. VIEWING.

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    Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] ...it was the summer of my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Oh I guess this thread is appropriate.

    I kind of hated Crank 2.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Oh I guess this thread is appropriate.

    I kind of hated Crank 2.

    As well you should

    But holy shit do I love it anyway

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Well Johnny, really why did you go back?

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    JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Place at the tableRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Blake T wrote: »
    I went to the one where two of your friends dive out windows and one of them goes streaking past a mutual pal's dorm window while you're watching, then spits himself on a bike rack, and you never talk about it and get homicidally stressed, then someone in your circle gets murdered and it's a national theater trial. Oh, and you're sick as a fucking dog the whole time and no one will be able to tell you why for at least six more years...

    perhaps you have seen our tshirts at local sporting events

    But really, that's neither here nor there. That's just shit that happens.

    I am more talking about the expectation that college would be a place of greater intellectual rigor, creativity, and academic freedom, and it turning out to be all the same games and politics and bureaucracy and generalized horse-shit

    Yes, part of that is DEFINITELY the specific institution I attended - and I shant be back, to say the least.

    I guess I glossed over my real point - the feeling of disconnection I was going through as everyone around me seemed to be enjoying this right of passage while all I felt was dreary sameness.

    I hate feeling left out. I hate talking to people about my thoughts and experiences and opinions and getting that look - Bill Hicks described as being look of "a monkey trying to figure out a card trick."

    Parents, teachers, bosses, friends, then college teachers, co workers, etc.

    That look has been a dominant experience in my life. I'm trying to figure out if there's a place without that look and/or if it's a more common experience than I think.

    So big or small - what experiences can you just not seem to share with the rest of society?

    edit: FWIW I don't actually play MMOs, btw. It was just one of those things where an abstract analogy pops into mind at a point where you have a rare change to use it in front of an audience that will get it. And they weren't really even a thing yet when I was a freshman in college. I'm ANCIENT. Almost ready for Carousel.
    Johnny.

    By the sounds of it you are missing out on what everyone is doing.

    Because they are doing what you don't want to do.

    If you want to be a sheep go and do some kegstands or whatever.

    If you want to study, do that.

    Saying that you don't need to go to college to get a job.

    I mean I have a degree, but I recognise they aren't for everyone.

    I've spent the last decade doing pretty much whatever I felt like ... including jobs that pushed six figures and jobs that were barely 6 an hour...I don't "need" a degree in any fiscal sense...I would rather make less money but be more satisfied and creative, honestly.

    I need some kind of change and I'm concerned that if I can't find some core to the disconnects I feel with everyone around me, with society at large, that any change I implement will not satisfy or resolve anything.

    Edit: IRT BlakeT I haven't yet gone back. I need to pursue a degree if I want to progress in my field, and it's kind of dredging up a lot of shit?

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Koshian wrote: »
    Koshian wrote: »
    yeah for-profit schools are being cracked down on now, thank goodness.

    And yet, I still know people at Full Sail.

    Jeez, that place.

    cracked down on in the way the us government cracks down on things that aren't drugs/black people

    so like, a stern word and ...?

    They aren't admitting students on commission now, which is something.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Koshian wrote: »
    could always go for an apprenticeship or some sort of trade school. university isn't for everybody

    e: honestly this is a path that should be at the very least shown to students in high school. its unfair that in the US the dichotomy most know is 'flipping burgers or university'

    That dichotomy honestly bugs the everliving shit out of me

    A big part of my resentment for the current state of formal education, honestly

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Edit: IRT BlakeT I haven't yet gone back. I need to pursue a degree if I want to progress in my field, and it's kind of dredging up a lot of shit?

    Oh dude.

    You are totally worrying too much about this then.

    You can just go to class and do your assignments.

    I mean you don't need to worry about fitting in. You're 30 odd aren't you? You'll be hanging out with 20 year olds.

    Really they shouldn't be allowed to talk let alone hold a opinions.

    Just go there do your shit, get your degree and move on.

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    KabitzyKabitzy find me in Monsbaiya Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I'm totally the "loser" in my circle of friends. I study and go to class, etc and I get ragged on (all in good fun, I guess) for "missing the point of college." I don't hate college but I find it to be extremely stressful at times. I do manage to fit in some fun on my calendar every once in a while though, but it isn't a priority. Damn, that sounds super sad.

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Koshian wrote: »
    could always go for an apprenticeship or some sort of trade school. university isn't for everybody

    e: honestly this is a path that should be at the very least shown to students in high school. its unfair that in the US the dichotomy most know is 'flipping burgers or university'

    That dichotomy honestly bugs the everliving shit out of me

    A big part of my resentment for the current state of formal education, honestly

    this is a stereotype that is not true at all. Vocational schools are bursting at the seams from all their students. The idea that no one will no how to be a plumber in twenty years is untrue. There will be plenty of plumbers. A plethora of plumbers. Trade schools do very well here.

    edit: In fact the way they are sold to high school students is, I think, extremely disingenuous and pretty fucked up.

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Kabitzy wrote: »
    I'm totally the "loser" in my circle of friends. I study and go to class, etc and I get ragged on (all in good fun, I guess) for "missing the point of college." I don't hate college but I find it to be extremely stressful at times. I do manage to fit in some fun on my calendar every once in a while though, but it isn't a priority. Damn, that sounds super sad.

    I thought the point of college was to learn and study so you can have a more enjoyable job. Not party and get drunk and deal with a hangover on your midterm.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Langly wrote: »
    Koshian wrote: »
    could always go for an apprenticeship or some sort of trade school. university isn't for everybody

    e: honestly this is a path that should be at the very least shown to students in high school. its unfair that in the US the dichotomy most know is 'flipping burgers or university'

    That dichotomy honestly bugs the everliving shit out of me

    A big part of my resentment for the current state of formal education, honestly

    this is a stereotype that is not true at all. Vocational schools are bursting at the seams from all their students. The idea that no one will no how to be a plumber in twenty years is untrue. There will be plenty of plumbers. A plethora of plumbers. Trade schools do very well here.

    Of course the stereotype ain't true, Langly. That's what Kosh and I are saying. When you're in high school, you're given an absolute, cut and dry, "go to university, or rent a trailer right this second" portrait of the future. And it's bullshit, and leads a whole lot of people to feeling needlessly hopeless/shitty/funneled-into-a-college-experience-they-end-up-hating

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    Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] ...it was the summer of my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    bowen wrote: »
    Kabitzy wrote: »
    I'm totally the "loser" in my circle of friends. I study and go to class, etc and I get ragged on (all in good fun, I guess) for "missing the point of college." I don't hate college but I find it to be extremely stressful at times. I do manage to fit in some fun on my calendar every once in a while though, but it isn't a priority. Damn, that sounds super sad.

    I thought the point of college was to learn and study so you can have a more enjoyable job. Not party and get drunk and deal with a hangover on your midterm.

    I think arguing that either or is the "point of college" exclusively is pretty dumb.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    bowen wrote: »
    Kabitzy wrote: »
    I'm totally the "loser" in my circle of friends. I study and go to class, etc and I get ragged on (all in good fun, I guess) for "missing the point of college." I don't hate college but I find it to be extremely stressful at times. I do manage to fit in some fun on my calendar every once in a while though, but it isn't a priority. Damn, that sounds super sad.

    I thought the point of college was to learn and study so you can have a more enjoyable job. Not party and get drunk and deal with a hangover on your midterm.

    Hangovers are for suckers

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Langly wrote: »
    Koshian wrote: »
    could always go for an apprenticeship or some sort of trade school. university isn't for everybody

    e: honestly this is a path that should be at the very least shown to students in high school. its unfair that in the US the dichotomy most know is 'flipping burgers or university'

    That dichotomy honestly bugs the everliving shit out of me

    A big part of my resentment for the current state of formal education, honestly

    this is a stereotype that is not true at all. Vocational schools are bursting at the seams from all their students. The idea that no one will no how to be a plumber in twenty years is untrue. There will be plenty of plumbers. A plethora of plumbers. Trade schools do very well here.

    Of course the stereotype ain't true, Langly. That's what Kosh and I are saying. When you're in high school, you're given an absolute, cut and dry, "go to university, or rent a trailer right this second" portrait of the future. And it's bullshit, and leads a whole lot of people to feeling needlessly hopeless/shitty/funneled-into-a-college-experience-they-end-up-hating

    Frankly pooro I'm surprised I'm still talking to you and not forcing you to lick the mud off my britches.

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Langly wrote: »
    Koshian wrote: »
    could always go for an apprenticeship or some sort of trade school. university isn't for everybody

    e: honestly this is a path that should be at the very least shown to students in high school. its unfair that in the US the dichotomy most know is 'flipping burgers or university'

    That dichotomy honestly bugs the everliving shit out of me

    A big part of my resentment for the current state of formal education, honestly

    this is a stereotype that is not true at all. Vocational schools are bursting at the seams from all their students. The idea that no one will no how to be a plumber in twenty years is untrue. There will be plenty of plumbers. A plethora of plumbers. Trade schools do very well here.

    Of course the stereotype ain't true, Langly. That's what Kosh and I are saying. When you're in high school, you're given an absolute, cut and dry, "go to university, or rent a trailer right this second" portrait of the future. And it's bullshit, and leads a whole lot of people to feeling needlessly hopeless/shitty/funneled-into-a-college-experience-they-end-up-hating

    what, no. I am saying the idea of a dichotomy as sold to teenagers is untrue. A large majority of highschools send their students to trade schools, and have trade school programs.

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    HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    bowen wrote: »
    Kabitzy wrote: »
    I'm totally the "loser" in my circle of friends. I study and go to class, etc and I get ragged on (all in good fun, I guess) for "missing the point of college." I don't hate college but I find it to be extremely stressful at times. I do manage to fit in some fun on my calendar every once in a while though, but it isn't a priority. Damn, that sounds super sad.

    I thought the point of college was to learn and study so you can have a more enjoyable job. Not party and get drunk and deal with a hangover on your midterm.

    I thought so, but then again I was not in the majority with that opinion.

    I also had a job lined up directly out of college with one of the companies I interned with. Literally, I graduated college, got my first full time adult job, and got married withing the same week.

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    JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Place at the tableRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Blake T wrote: »
    Edit: IRT BlakeT I haven't yet gone back. I need to pursue a degree if I want to progress in my field, and it's kind of dredging up a lot of shit?

    Oh dude.

    You are totally worrying too much about this then.

    You can just go to class and do your assignments.

    I mean you don't need to worry about fitting in. You're 30 odd aren't you? You'll be hanging out with 20 year olds.

    Really they shouldn't be allowed to talk let alone hold a opinions.

    Just go there do your shit, get your degree and move on.

    20 year olds think I am super fucking rad most of the time, this is not a social problem, it's mostly internal. Hell, if I do the thing I'll probably do it online.

    What is a mickey is that a canadian pint? I've done that. Not with store-bought everclear, though

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Koshian wrote: »
    don't project your alcoholism onto others

    just because you can shotgun a mickey of everclear,

    Oh man projecting alcoholism would be the best superpower

    "How're you gonna rob this bank... if you can't shake the DTs?"

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Superhero name "The Enabler"

    Costume just basically the Duff Man outfit

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    Cornell002Cornell002 Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I hated it when I was in college, now I miss it like hell.

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    darklite_xdarklite_x I'm not an r-tard... Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Back when I was in high school some of those job fairs actually did a pretty good job selling me on truck driving (18 wheeler) and being a mortician. In retrospect, I should have became a roaming mortician, traveling from town to town plying my trade, working out of the back of my big rig.

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I now just have a beer.

    The best thing is that I don't need to take responsibility.

    I can now just blame Pooro.

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Trade schools are an awesome alternative to finishing high schools. Pays extremely well once you've done your apprenticeship too. Like, they are making half of what I do and literally have no debt.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Blake T wrote: »
    I now just have a beer.

    The best thing is that I don't need to take responsibility.

    I can now just blame Pooro.

    Come on, man, don't be a dick. Don't spoil my secret identity. Just blame

    The Enabler.

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    My bad.

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    THE ENABLER.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Blake, I really do love you

    Even if Viv won't let me meet/bang her sister :x

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    DeadfallDeadfall I don't think you realize just how rich he is. In fact, I should put on a monocle.Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Going to college at 20 and going to college at 30 are so completely different.

    I'm 28, back in school after realizing my first career choice just isn't for me. And it's a completely different experience. I mean, I enjoyed college round one. I partied, learned how much I could party, learned attending class with a hangover was hell, met some of my best friends of my life, met my wife, learned what it was like to work every day and still be broke as fuck, and learned the basics of my career. It was alright, definately a good thing for me, but I didn't really learn anything about the real world.

    But now, I'm focused. I just sit back, all smug and keep my opinions to myself about the younger students who complain how weekend class goes till ten at night on Friday, and then all day Saturday. They'll learn. I'm here for a purpose. I feel like a laser spotter. You know the ones who paint a target with the laser and bring down the missiles? Only this time, the missiles are a better career and more enjoyable future for myself. I'm lasering the shit out of my target.

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Look for a chinese girl in West Holywood.

    I'll watch for Vivienne to get irrationally angry and we can cross reference.

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Deadfall, that is what I'm anticipating when I return to school in a few years.

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    bowen wrote: »
    Trade schools are an awesome alternative to finishing high schools. Pays extremely well once you've done your apprenticeship too. Like, they are making half of what I do and literally have no debt.

    Ok yes now I can get on my soapbox you have triggered my trap card

    ahem


    Trade schools provide a very useful and necessary service to people, and indeed, college is not for everyone. We need plumbers! And roofers! And those people who make the heating work in my house. However, Vocational schools use very aggressive marketing towards rural and urban high school students who have never had much money growing up, and have no sense of what a full time job can offer. They dazzle them with 18 dollars an hour and up and then say "What are you going to do with a degree in Marine Biology huh, huh? You can be making 20 bucks an hour tomorrow" And the kids race each other to sign up.

    What they do not tell them is that Vocational Schools give you no upward mobility whatsoever. You will be a carpenter your whole life, you will make the same money your whole life, with no room for advancement. Like, say you wanted to start your own carpentry business? How would you do that? Your school just taught you how to hammer things into other things, not how to manage a pay roll. Vocational schools often snare people into a life in which it is very difficult to advance. There needs to be more attention paid to giving students skills that they can take after they have been working for a few years and want to advance their careers.

    Langly on
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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Blake T wrote: »
    Look for a chinese girl in West Holywood.

    I'll watch for Vivienne to get irrationally angry and we can cross reference.

    Ahahaha

    Blazing through West Hollywood

    Wrecking more Chinese girls than Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother

    Poorochondriac on
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