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Gay Rights thread, 2011 edition! And it's already been a rather interesting year for Gay Rights and Issues.
Gay Marriage
Oh lordy this one is getting complicated. I'm going to paint a broad picture here because things there's lots going on.
DOMA - The Obama Administration has refused to defend DOMA in court, calling it unconstitutional. The GOP lost their shit of course, and the House Republicans will probably step in to defend it. In the meantime, we've got attempts to repeal the provision.
Prop 8 - A request to allow same-sex marriages in California during the appeal process has been denied, which is not that unusual, although disappointing.
Right now, we're waiting on the CA Supreme Court to decide whether the defendants even have standing to defend Prop 8 in the Federal Appeal, as the CA Governor and Attorney General have both refused to do so. The oral arguments have been moved to September for some fucking reason.
Bans and Bills - Along with the wave of GOP elections last year have come many politicians seeking to stop or reverse the progress of the gay rights cause. Many states are attempting to pass bills preemptively banning gay marriage and in some cases, attempting to strengthen existing legislation.
Here's some of the bigger/more recent examples, which I will update whenever I feel like it.
Iowa - A ferocious battleground where the GOP and tea-party movement are attempting to reverse the states pro-gay marriage law. They are failing, for now, but it's a close thing and due to Iowa's judicial election system, three of the judges who ruled in favor of gay marriage have since lost their positions.
Maryland - Came VERY close to passing a gay marriage bill but intense last minute pressure from right-wing groups managed to sway the vote and stop passage. This is going to be a big fight in Maryland in coming years.
Hawaii - Finally, has Civil Unions!
Delaware - Civil Unions!
Wyoming - An attempted anti-gay marriage bill has failed, when of all people, many Wyoming Republican Senators dissented, protesting the interference of government in peoples private lives. Wyoming has civil unions already.
Colorado - Civil Unions bill defeated.
Here's a recent Gallop poll on gay marriage. Support has increased a full 9% in the last year.
DADT
Don't Ask, Don't Tell has been officially repealed in a stunning 'lame duck' session at the end of 2010. The latest news I have been able to find is that official certification will probably be sometime this summer, possibly June or July.
In the meantime, the military is training its personnel on what will change and what will not. You can see some of that in a PowerPoint slideshow over at Huffington Post.
Gay Teen Suicides/It Gets Better
Last year, around September, we had a rash of highly publicized stories of gay teens (and teens perceived to be gay) taking their own lives as a result of hateful anti-gay bullying. It's still up in the air whether this was an increase in these incidents, or more likely in my personal opinion, simply an increase in reporting on the issue.
In response, blogger, podcaster, and columnist Dan Savage created a video with his partner Terry to talk to at-risk teens facing bullying, and show them that their lives will get better if they just hang in there. The video went viral, and it blossomed into the It Gets Better Project. To date, thousands of It Gets Better videos have been created by celebrities and people from every walk of life, and it's created a much needed dialogue on gay teens and the issue of teen bullying in general.
The Trevor Project, an LGBT youth suicide-prevention organization, has since seen their incoming calls increase by 50%, which is frightening in a sense, but at least it means more LGBT youth are reaching out for help.
Dan and Terry just did an NPR interview on the topic, in line with the release of the It Gets Better book. You can hear the interview here (it's quite good), and buy the book here.
Gay Marriage
Oh lordy this one is getting complicated. I'm going to paint a broad picture here because things there's lots going on.
DOMA - The Obama Administration has refused to defend DOMA in court, calling it unconstitutional. The GOP lost their shit of course, and the House Republicans will probably step in to defend it. In the meantime, we've got attempts to repeal the provision.
Prop 8 - A request to allow same-sex marriages in California during the appeal process has been denied, which is not that unusual, although disappointing.
Right now, we're waiting on the CA Supreme Court to decide whether the defendants even have standing to defend Prop 8 in the Federal Appeal, as the CA Governor and Attorney General have both refused to do so. The oral arguments have been moved to September for some fucking reason.
Bans and Bills - Along with the wave of GOP elections last year have come many politicians seeking to stop or reverse the progress of the gay rights cause. Many states are attempting to pass bills preemptively banning gay marriage and in some cases, attempting to strengthen existing legislation.
Here's some of the bigger/more recent examples, which I will update whenever I feel like it.
Iowa - A ferocious battleground where the GOP and tea-party movement are attempting to reverse the states pro-gay marriage law. They are failing, for now, but it's a close thing and due to Iowa's judicial election system, three of the judges who ruled in favor of gay marriage have since lost their positions.
Maryland - Came VERY close to passing a gay marriage bill but intense last minute pressure from right-wing groups managed to sway the vote and stop passage. This is going to be a big fight in Maryland in coming years.
Hawaii - Finally, has Civil Unions!
Delaware - Civil Unions!
Wyoming - An attempted anti-gay marriage bill has failed, when of all people, many Wyoming Republican Senators dissented, protesting the interference of government in peoples private lives. Wyoming has civil unions already.
Colorado - Civil Unions bill defeated.
Here's a recent Gallop poll on gay marriage. Support has increased a full 9% in the last year.
DADT
Don't Ask, Don't Tell has been officially repealed in a stunning 'lame duck' session at the end of 2010. The latest news I have been able to find is that official certification will probably be sometime this summer, possibly June or July.
In the meantime, the military is training its personnel on what will change and what will not. You can see some of that in a PowerPoint slideshow over at Huffington Post.
Gay Teen Suicides/It Gets Better
Last year, around September, we had a rash of highly publicized stories of gay teens (and teens perceived to be gay) taking their own lives as a result of hateful anti-gay bullying. It's still up in the air whether this was an increase in these incidents, or more likely in my personal opinion, simply an increase in reporting on the issue.
In response, blogger, podcaster, and columnist Dan Savage created a video with his partner Terry to talk to at-risk teens facing bullying, and show them that their lives will get better if they just hang in there. The video went viral, and it blossomed into the It Gets Better Project. To date, thousands of It Gets Better videos have been created by celebrities and people from every walk of life, and it's created a much needed dialogue on gay teens and the issue of teen bullying in general.
The Trevor Project, an LGBT youth suicide-prevention organization, has since seen their incoming calls increase by 50%, which is frightening in a sense, but at least it means more LGBT youth are reaching out for help.
Dan and Terry just did an NPR interview on the topic, in line with the release of the It Gets Better book. You can hear the interview here (it's quite good), and buy the book here.
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The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
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Also this:
[The Onion] Breaking: Anti-Gay Senator Caught In Affair With Horse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeKI8biAglU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGJuMBdaqIw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTQNwMxqM3E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocDlOD1Hw9k
And this one makes me cry in the best way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dysG12QCdTA
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
Appropriate? Maybe not. Funny as hell? To me it is.
If anyone has a Dailyshow.com link instead of a crappy 'taped off tv' link instead, all the better.
Also, the Wyoming story remains one of my favourites from last thread.
My sister takes every chance she can get to rant about how Katy Perry is intolerant of LGBT issues (because of some songs she did? idk) and pressures me to feel the same way. Does this mean I can go back to not giving a shit about Katy Perry?
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frv6FOt1BNI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH8Wg_3NOJQ
Boy, thats some good LGBTQ support there, lady.
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Personally I prefer Aphrodite, but goddamn, nice video.
The guy at about 55 seconds in is the hottest.
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Although the horse was a bit odd. For a second I thought it was going to join in the pile and Kylie had crossed a line. But no, just a horse wandering by.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
Why?
Why this restless urge to tell other people how and with whom they should rub their private bits together? What possible difference could it make to you? I'm gonna go to a quiet private place and touch my this with her that - what's it to you? Or me and these guys are gonna put these in those, in the privacy of our own homes. When did you get involved in the process?
You're not interested in how I go for a poop, or whether I get the oil hot before I saute onions, or if I have the colour temperature on my monitor set correctly, or that I'm not wearing matching socks. But you're relentlessly concerned about the placement of my trouser-snake. What? Shouldn't you be more worried that I put on 20lbs this winter? Look at me, my jeans don't fit! Lil' V1m isn't going anywhere special till that shit is sorted, so that should be a priority.
Sounds more misogynistic than anything else.
Living out out lifestyle or something else?
You never really said, and we might be able to actually work through the societal issues you have.
Don't forget with DADT going out the door there are going to be a lot of service members demanding to know why their spouse doesn't count for a shit ton of benefits.
I would say it is due to general close mindedness and a lack of empathy. I would at a guess say that almost everyone starts off a little homophobic, until they actually think it through and realize there is no reason to be that way. But the people incapable of that level of introspection and unable to empathize stick with their initial gut reaction. Mix in some authority where they feel the need to impose their values on others, and you have these situations.
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1. It feels like tolerance more than acceptance, and that is not what I want from straight people.
2. It is a way to sequester queer identity away from the public eye, which is exactly what I don't want as an out gay male.
Ending DADT solidified an interest block overnight. They were already there, they just couldn't ask for anything without being kicked out.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Basically agree with this. Lots of different things gross me out but it doesn't even being to matter since it's none of my fucking business. And ultimately it's downright offensive to me that someone would consider my sister's sex/love life to be anyone's business other than hers and her partner's.
But I also agree with your assessment re: tolerance vs acceptance.
I really hate the use of the word tolerance on principle.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
The idea that this sort of thing needs to be kept in the bedroom is what makes it okay in peoples' minds to kick girls out of Mariners games for making out, or to stop girls from taking their girlfriends to prom, or any other examples that aren't leaping immediately to mind.
She's a horrible human being.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWbLkXhGEmo
http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/06/30/katy-perry-plays-make-believe/
There's something of an issue when the bulk of people who say keep it in the bedroom actually mean never mention anything remotely homosexual around me.
I'm definitely not one of those "keep it in the bedroom" people, because I see it for the bullshit "tolerance" that it is. People should have the right to be who they are, regardless of situation or location. Otherwise they're not really free or equal to those of us who are more accepted by society.
I'm just from a background where sex doesn't really make an appearance in public in really any way, regardless of orientation. So in that way I can see where they're coming from. The problem is that it is used as an excuse for bigotry and oppression, which makes it an unacceptable cop out.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
So, you've never watched television? There's tons of heterosex stuff on tv, but it's seen as normal and desirable. Heterosexuality does make an appearance in public life, but it's such an ingrained part of public life that it's tough to notice except in comparison to how little other sexualities are presented in the media.
I don't have any problem with people of any combination of sex or gender holding hands or walking arm in arm or even kissing in public. It's just that where I'm from, sex is one of those things that we just kind of pretend doesn't happen right up until the point we're having it, and then we keep it to ourselves after the fact. That's what I'm talking about, not the ambient indirect sexual interaction that you seem to be thinking of.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Ke$ha is pretty terrible, she came out and said that her "We R who We R" song was in support of the gays.
But she's still fucking terrible.
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Fail. It's probably going to die quietly.
I'm ashamed to admit this but I have it on my iPod, it's just another "Yay lets get pissed and dance, we're so mad dudes." song.
I'm not talking about you and your friends; I was merely pointing out that you are exposed to heterosexual people's sex lives if you do things like watch tv, read magazines, click on advertisements, etc... If you think that you actually succeed at avoiding knowledge of other people's sex lives, you are truly blind to how routine dominant sexualities are in the media and in society in general. I would argue one step more that you are only aware of homosexuality because it is not seen as the norm and is not something you have been exposed to for years.
That kind of hand wringing, anal nit picking does the cause of equal rights no favours at all.