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[Megaten Discussion] Elizabeth added to P4A; P4's cast is already dead.

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  • ShenShen Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Funky town, thanks

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Shen wrote: »
    DDS1 and 2 arrived before Nocturne, should I hold out on starting them or just jump right in? All I know is that they're apparently loosely related.
    Just to clarify... DDS 1 and 2 are two halves of a single story, somewhat self-contained and heavily connected at the same time.

    The DDS games have no relation to Nocturne, though (apart from, as The Anonymous said, a single secret boss).

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    heenato wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    It's a side quest.
    She makes you pursue a white rabbit for her, then asks you to kill it.

    If you don't, she asks you to die instead, and then helps you.
    Ah. I thought you were talking about a reference to Belial and Nebiros.

    When you make her through fusion she asks where a "Mr. Red" and "Mr. Blue" are though.

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  • RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I know I should use Yukiko just because I haven't before and her Magic stat is really good, but I just can't bear to put Chie on the sidelines. Plus if I go Yosuke, Kanji, Chie, then I eventually get a team with no elemental weaknesses which has gotta be a good thing.

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I know I should use Yukiko just because I haven't before and her Magic stat is really good, but I just can't bear to put Chie on the sidelines. Plus if I go Yosuke, Kanji, Chie, then I eventually get a team with no elemental weaknesses which has gotta be a good thing.

    Eh, Yukiko's ice weakness isn't that big a problem. The main reason she keeps her weakness, I think, is because she's so powerful that it would be unbalanced without that negative trait.

    Anyways, by end game you can easily afford to give her an Eye of Ice to help deal with that.

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  • heenatoheenato Alice Leywind Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    But then the MC has to pick up the slack for FOUR things. Healing, zio and ESPECIALLY bufu, and agi. The MC really doesn't have the SP to do all that.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Kanji is plenty good with Zio for weakness hitting, and you'll have Healing and Agi use with Yukiko, so you'll just have to do Bufu.

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  • heenatoheenato Alice Leywind Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Kanji is plenty good with Zio for weakness hitting, and you'll have Healing and Agi use with Yukiko, so you'll just have to do Bufu.
    I meant by using a party of Kanji, Yosuke and Chie, though. I mean, Kanji is adequate with zio, but his SP sure isn't.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Sure it is. It's not like he has anything else to use it on.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Well, speaking of which, just did the Sauna optional boss in one go. Kanji/Chie/Yukiko.


    Main and Chie were the last ones standing, and took him down with 1 and 30 HP respectively.
    Good thing he only did single attacks.

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    My adventures in Hard Mode P3P continue.

    I'm on floor 41, and I swear, the bosses I have had no trouble with. It's the random encounters that chew me up and spit me out. They're tough enough to survive two rounds of weakness hitting and All Out Attacks, and do more damage then Dia can keep up with, and they get Enemy Advantage half the time even if I hit them with the freaking Nagnita.

    Oh yeah, and they seem to have the uncanny ability to dodge their weakness 1/3 of the time.

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  • MattakuevanMattakuevan Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Pata wrote: »
    My adventures in Hard Mode P3P continue.

    I'm on floor 41, and I swear, the bosses I have had no trouble with. It's the random encounters that chew me up and spit me out. They're tough enough to survive two rounds of weakness hitting and All Out Attacks, and do more damage then Dia can keep up with, and they get Enemy Advantage half the time even if I hit them with the freaking Nagnita.

    Oh yeah, and they seem to have the uncanny ability to dodge their weakness 1/3 of the time.

    Honestly, I'd say that this is the case with most SMTs. The bosses are usually challenging but the real bullshit comes from the random encounters, especially in Nocturne.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Getting a preempt's near impossible on P4 Expert, too.

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  • RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    My other problem with Yukiko is that she is so specialized. In most RPGs, that's great but in Megaten you want balanced. Pretty much everyone else has a backup attack or buff they can use if the enemy is resistant to their main attack, but not Yukiko.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    That's when you use Fire Break and rock their shit.

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    My heroine just got randomly critical hited for more HP then she currently has, thus leading to a gameover after half an hour of dungeon diving.

    Ladies and Gentlemen; Shin Megami Tensei.
    My other problem with Yukiko is that she is so specialized. In most RPGs, that's great but in Megaten you want balanced. Pretty much everyone else has a backup attack or buff they can use if the enemy is resistant to their main attack, but not Yukiko.

    This just means that she has even more SP to serve as a healbot.

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  • heenatoheenato Alice Leywind Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Getting a preempt's near impossible on P4 Expert, too.
    No it's not. I get them all the time.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Well, it's not as easy. :P

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    The Obelisk:
    Step. Random Encounter.
    Step. Step. Random Encounter.
    Step. Random Encounter x2.
    Step. Step. Random Encounter.
    St- Random Encounter.

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  • TrynantTrynant Maniac Brawler Rank 20.100 and full WildRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    The Obelisk:
    Step. Random Encounter.
    Step. Step. Random Encounter.
    Step. Random Encounter x2.
    Step. Step. Random Encounter.
    St- Random Encounter.

    When you get tired of the delicious experience, Estoma is your friend.

    Assuming you leveled enough to avoid encounters in the Obelisk with Estoma.

    Also, Mana Refill and a Media/Medairama/Mediarahan is priceless in these scenarios. Or Mana Drain if Mana Refill is not available.

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  • heenatoheenato Alice Leywind Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Which game is this again? I'm awful with locations.

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  • Gaming-FreakGaming-Freak Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    heenato wrote: »
    Which game is this again? I'm awful with locations.

    Nocturne? I hated random encounters in Nocturne. I know it seems like I'm picking apart the game, but I honestly did like it... I just couldn't finish it.

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  • RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Of course, right after I say that I'm not going to use Yukiko, I get a Dodge Ice accessory and a good weapon for her.

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Of course, right after I say that I'm not going to use Yukiko, I get a Dodge Ice accessory and a good weapon for her.

    Frankly I don't think I've unequipped the weapon you get for her Dungeon Bonus boss since I got it.

    +50 SP is really good.

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  • heenatoheenato Alice Leywind Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    When I use yukiko, I eventually do give her a new weapon, just because I use rush far too much for such a low powered weapon to be useful at later levels.

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  • SquigieSquigie Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Funny thing about playing Persona 4 for awhile is I find it hard to remember the actual date afterward. Happened with P3 too, and probably FES when I get around to playing it.

    I'm thinking of fusing an ailment focused persona for those shadows that are jerks without easily exploitable weaknesses. (The nerve!) Any suggestions for a persona and worthwhile ailments? I've just finished the Void Quest.

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  • MattakuevanMattakuevan Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Devil Survivor 2 site open: http://ds2.atlusnet.jp/

    Hmm... looks alright, the characters, while uninteresting imo, are definitely less annoying looking than the first game.

    Edit: Man, I still can't get over the heroine's boobs. What the fuck, boobs don't point that way.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Well, it's the guy who designed Yuzu. Baby steps.


    WTF is up with that girl on main's left. Some outfit.


    Great music, sounds like.

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Devil Survivor 2 site open: http://ds2.atlusnet.jp/

    Hmm... looks alright, the characters, while uninteresting imo, are definitely less annoying looking than the first game.

    Edit: Man, I still can't get over the heroine's boobs. What the fuck, boobs don't point that way.
    I don't like the Main's design. Not entirely sure why.

    Maybe it's the hair. Or the vacant expression.

    Or those empty, soulless eyes.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    He has a much better design than DS1's. Also, nice coat.


    All in all, I approve of the cast, aside from wearing-a-tie-and-that's-it girl.


    Beret-wearing redhead is in the good list.

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  • MattakuevanMattakuevan Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I don't like his fucking useless wing... scarf... things.... that are coming out of his retarded popped collar.

    Edit: The majority of the cast is good though.

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  • ShenShen Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Well I just spent all day yesterday chasing down Soejima's incredible artwork so I'm not exactly blown away, but this is pretty good too.

    Weird theme of girls shrugging off jackets, main character's wings are dumb and the one wearing the blue tie and nothing else is Midori with Amane's weird hair thing and Haru's wardrobe. Other than that funky, if a little too much on the "I smoulder with generic rage" side.

    The blonde nurse who looks hopped up on meds is my favourite.

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  • MattakuevanMattakuevan Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I like the nurse and the pinstripe guy the most. They seem like characters that I wont hate.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Speaking of which, high res ahoy!

    http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27764478&postcount=4

    Trashy:
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    Classy:

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  • ShenShen Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Fish or die. Indeed sir.

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    All the females have gravity defying absurdly huge boobs.

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  • elliotw2elliotw2 Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I really don't like the art for most of these this time around. They all look strange, and all the females have boobs bigger than their head.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I like the art but yeah those boobs are insane. They all look like they're trying to get away.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Man, the character design manages to be both better and worse than the first game.

    edit: why is everyone complaining about the boobs now? They were just as bad in the first game aside from Haru.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Man, the character design manages to be both better and worse than the first game.

    edit: why is everyone complaining about the boobs now? They were just as bad in the first game aside from Haru.


    Well, for me I only ever saw the one pair from what's her name, that beginning schizo girl. I didn't get very far in that game.

    But that picture is all of them, straining for escape, at once. It's a little overwhelming.

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