Split from the Libya thread
what the fuck, United States Army, what the fuck?
TLDR: Soldiers kill Afghans for sport, children, seniors, whatever, mutilate their bodies and keep parts as trophies. Officers ignore it, even when a soldier's dad phones that the soldier could be killed by the other guys for "Ratting"
Now this isn't an isolated incident by any means, you can find NSFW videos of soldiers "hunting" civilians on youtube if you do more than a cursory lookup, but what exactly am I talking about here?
In the other thread Loklar misinterpreted my intent (I believe) thusly
Truly tragic and disgusting stuff. Nonetheless, it is still shoddy journalism that starts off with a tragedy and turns the event into a screed against military action and the people in our armed forces. It uses misleading videos that have /nothing/ to do with the actions of the men described in the article, it displays an abundance of ignorance about the operation of our military, and mostly uses inflammatory language/misdirection to drum up anger about some sort of mutilation/sadistic culture in our military that simply does not exist.
ACIS plea bargained one of the 5 men (out of a brigade of 3,500) down to 24 years in jail... and thats the plea. There are over a million men in the Army alone, not counting the Corps, the Air Force, the Navy or the Coast Guard. To argue that a few sick individuals are representative of some sort of culture is absolutely moronic. Soldiers are being held accountable for this and they are in for a shitstorm of trouble. Publishing an article like this, in this fashion, will provide pure propaganda for the enemy. It is one thing to report on what it is happening. It is another for this 'journalist' to speculate on intent, use the events as a platform to paint the Stryker Brigade in whole as some sort of band of brigands and war criminals. I put a stop payment on my subscription to Rolling Stone and you should too.
I don't feel it necessary to put in a disclaimer here saying that it's not representative of the folks in the military at large, blah blah blah, since of course it isn't and that is a red herring and not really the point. I don't feel that I should have to point out that both of my brothers, my father, and my best friend are combat veterans, but I will anyway before someone accuses me of just being a military hater.
What is there to talk about then really if I'm not trying to insinuate that each and every soldier is a baby killer? Well I'm trying to impune the U.S. Army (and probably the Marine Corps) as an organization, and not just for looking the other way when there are psychos about.
The Army has a long history of turning its back on unpleasantness, sweeping it under the rug and pretending it doesn't exist. The problem isn't that the individuals in question weren't punished, the problem is how long this went on, the problem is that command staff and the general attitude is to look the other way
. This happens for multiple reasons, in many cases it comes down to ass covering and not malevolence, but it certainly does happen, probably most severely when it comes to depression and suicides.
So how's the Army handling things? Am I being unfair, or do they do a bad job at dealing with psychological issues and fuckups in general by pretending they don't exist (everything from sociopaths to suicide)? There seems to a complete and total disconnect between the strategic objectives and mottos of the Army and the attitude perpetuated by the ground level command. I know every soldier is told how serious suicide is, and i also know that a soldier covered in the blood of some kid that goes to his CO has a good chance of being called a pussy for letting it bug him. I know the generals realize how important it is to not let soldiers (justifiably traumatized they may be) go on about how all the hajis should just be killed, but lower level officers and NCOs don't seem to. Why is this?