I can't do anything against projectile spam as thor. Someone tell me what to do. Right now I got Task (H shot) & Sent (rocket punch). Looking for suggestions!
I can't do anything against projectile spam as thor. Someone tell me what to do. Right now I got Task (H shot) & Sent (rocket punch). Looking for suggestions!
Thor's mobility really cripples him against projectile spam. However, you could try countering by using his light projectile plus Taskmaster's horizontal assist. Thor can get that shot off pretty quick and Taskmaster's assist can give it a lot more punch.
Jumping, dashing forward, and then an airborne Mighty Strike might also help. It has a bit of a charge-up, but can help you get forward pretty swiftly. You can also aim it according to button strength, so you can go straight, angled down, or down.
The best option is probably to just let him take hits to build up meter for Sentinel and Taskmaster supers. Or just swap him out, I guess; Taskmaster can pretty capably counter spam.
Flying then dashing down forward then up forward then down forward also works really well I think? I don't know I really really like playing this game but I was doing ok there for a little bit but now I'm just back into loss after loss.
I mean the fact that I'm pretty incompetent wasn't to bad in SF4 because at most I would lose maybe 1/4 of a life bar for making a mistake. However in marvel I make many mistakes and all of them end in complete defeat
I also can never seem to make the right decisions like I tag thor out to let him heal up a bit Haggar comes in and I proceed to act like a moron, get Haggar killed and thor loses most of his red life. Arthur hops in and I just throw the wrong projectile and its all over
The other day I played a dude playing deadpool/doom(rocks)/dorm(pillar). We played about 10 games... couldn't crack the wall of spam. I tried all the things that ninja suggested... couldn't crack it. I'm at the point where I think I just need to replace Thor with someone... maybe with a beam.
I tried throwing arthur in there but deadpool/doom still locked down his projectiles. I might try ironman but I find him pretty hard to use.
The other day I played a dude playing deadpool/doom(rocks)/dorm(pillar). We played about 10 games... couldn't crack the wall of spam. I tried all the things that ninja suggested... couldn't crack it. I'm at the point where I think I just need to replace Thor with someone... maybe with a beam.
I tried throwing arthur in there but deadpool/doom still locked down his projectiles. I might try ironman but I find him pretty hard to use.
I ended up taunting a guy tonight. He was Taskmaster / Deadpool / Doom. I was so pissed getting through his spam that when I touched him I made sure to kill him.
When I stood over his fallen Doom, Wesker slowly put on his shades to drag the end out.
He was 100% runaway. He did one combo on me over two matches that wasn't running away.
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Whats a good 3rd to go with Shuma Gorath and Senitnal? I'm having a hard time just finding a 3rd person that clicks so maybe I'll just force learn someone that compliments my team nicely.
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Keeping a steady stream of content driving me bonkers though, especially with a big new release. Keyword search not quite as important when we don't have content to search through, right? :P
I'll definitely let you guys know when cool stuff gets added!
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So you don't enter the titles (Close Call, etc.) yourself?
That would make it easier.
Hell, when I have a full tourney's worth of videos that I only have to edit and upload I feel like cutting myself. If I had to watch all the ones other people were submitting. :<
The other day I played a dude playing deadpool/doom(rocks)/dorm(pillar). We played about 10 games... couldn't crack the wall of spam. I tried all the things that ninja suggested... couldn't crack it. I'm at the point where I think I just need to replace Thor with someone... maybe with a beam.
I tried throwing arthur in there but deadpool/doom still locked down his projectiles. I might try ironman but I find him pretty hard to use.
Against that particular team you could always go Sentinel. If he's running away, he won't be able to prevent HSF's startup, and all it takes is a HSF/x-factor/HSF to kill off one of his assists. Get used to doing it on reaction (when you hear "crossover assist!"), and it'll stuff a lot of runaways. Versus runaway Deadpool in particular, Hard Drive is pretty great at knocking him out of the sky if he's just spamming stars/grenade/etcetera.
All these stealth patches, glad they said what they did this time.
You guys think they'll ever adjust the sentinel nerf? I agree that more character need adjustments (Super has to be coming right?) but I think most people think it was over aggressive. And I know the games new still, bur the recent conversation about spiderman for example. Has he ever shown up on a team in a tourney or stream? And we have good players here who are all pretty much in agreement it seems that anything he can do, somebody can do better such as task.
Glad they're fixing glitches and "unintended" 100% combos. What about other 100% combos? Is chun'sLittle reset intended then? (the one where she gets 999 hits kicking yhem in the face) Or they just don't know how to fix it without wrecking the character? Yet didn't cap's "fix" mess up combos for him?
Chun Li's infinite requires multiple upwards aerial tags to work, so it's basically useless in a real match. As for Sentinel, he's probably stronger the way he is now than the way most people would actually want him (that is, with slightly more health but lower damage output). I don't really expect to see him tweaked again anytime soon, though.
And while several characters could stand to be better, I don't see Spiderman getting the sort of changes he needs. A lot of his problems are on fairly fundamental levels, like the amount of dragon punch commands he has to combo and his finicky melee range and hyper hits.
The other day I played a dude playing deadpool/doom(rocks)/dorm(pillar). We played about 10 games... couldn't crack the wall of spam. I tried all the things that ninja suggested... couldn't crack it. I'm at the point where I think I just need to replace Thor with someone... maybe with a beam.
I tried throwing arthur in there but deadpool/doom still locked down his projectiles. I might try ironman but I find him pretty hard to use.
Against that particular team you could always go Sentinel. If he's running away, he won't be able to prevent HSF's startup, and all it takes is a HSF/x-factor/HSF to kill off one of his assists. Get used to doing it on reaction (when you hear "crossover assist!"), and it'll stuff a lot of runaways. Versus runaway Deadpool in particular, Hard Drive is pretty great at knocking him out of the sky if he's just spamming stars/grenade/etcetera.
Yeah, sentinel is my anchor on my team and he makes it easier. I'm mainly worried about getting in with thor but kinderparty gave me some good tips that I'm going to have to try in training mode.
Re: Searching on FADC. I don't think Ive used the search function even a single time. Most of the time I'm looking for character specific stuff so all I need to do is click on a game, click on a character, and click on ultra/assist. It usually gets me everything I'm looking for.
All these stealth patches, glad they said what they did this time.
You guys think they'll ever adjust the sentinel nerf? I agree that more character need adjustments (Super has to be coming right?) but I think most people think it was over aggressive. And I know the games new still, bur the recent conversation about spiderman for example. Has he ever shown up on a team in a tourney or stream? And we have good players here who are all pretty much in agreement it seems that anything he can do, somebody can do better such as task.
Glad they're fixing glitches and "unintended" 100% combos. What about other 100% combos? Is chun'sLittle reset intended then? (the one where she gets 999 hits kicking yhem in the face) Or they just don't know how to fix it without wrecking the character? Yet didn't cap's "fix" mess up combos for him?
I really don't think Sentinel will be readjusted until they release a balance patch.
And that probably won't be until Super MvC3 or whatever.
I think you have to use Thor as a second, not point, and abuse him using DHC's. Not only for his crazy damage, but it helps to get him in (basically, how Hulk can be used).
Other'n that, super jump like a madman / fly over / kara the shit out of his command throw.
Hulk's command throw is great to use, but Thor's isn't even that good .
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No ones telling you to drop Thor.
I just want you to be aware he's bad. I mean...you can still work with bad characters. Doesn't stop them from being bad though.
@Monkeyman or...Zen: Thor's light beam is about as fast as most other people's heavy beams. He can throw it out everything now and then, but he ain't winning no fights.
I wouldn't say he's bad... just a little harder to use. I really like characters with high damage outputs... which is probably why I still have sentinel on my team even after the nerf.
One nice thing about Thor is his HP. That's very important in this game. He has 1.2 mil HP, right?
Unless he takes 150k-200k in chip or other damage, it's not realistically possible to one shot kill him (ignoring X-factor). That gives you one mistake, whereas people like Dante / Wolverine don't get one.
So....that's nice .
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Whats a good 3rd to go with Shuma Gorath and Senitnal? I'm having a hard time just finding a 3rd person that clicks so maybe I'll just force learn someone that compliments my team nicely.
Since Sentinel and Mystic Stare covers Shuma's approach, consider a fast, aggressive character with an assist that keeps people out, or just pick a battery character for more THE CHA-OS DI-MEN-SION!!!1
One nice thing about Thor is his HP. That's very important in this game. He has 1.2 mil HP, right?
Unless he takes 150k-200k in chip or other damage, it's not realistically possible to one shot kill him (ignoring X-factor). That gives you one mistake, whereas people like Dante / Wolverine don't get one.
So....that's nice .
He sure does. It pays to stay patient and take a little chip damage to get in and do nasty damage with nice resets.
As it stands right now I can do 900,000 damage using 2 bars but it relies on sentinel's otg assist. I'd rather use an assist that helps thor get in more easily and just work more on better thor combos/resets.
Thor is a GREAT character. Highest HP (1.25 mill), awesome assist in mighty smash, potent damage, and a TOD mixup on any character. His pressure is solid and his mighty hurricane is always a threat, especially those that are good at using the air version. It just takes patience to be good with Thor, and patience feels forced in a game like Marvel.
Oh yeah, and yes mighty spark can cancel into itself. It's the fastest beam and the strongest, it's just that it whiffs on many characters when they crouch. Still, it stuffs people like Arthur from doing anything and letting you move in.
Thor is a GREAT character. Highest HP (1.25 mill), awesome assist in mighty smash, potent damage, and a TOD mixup on any character. His pressure is solid and his mighty hurricane is always a threat, especially those that are good at using the air version. It just takes patience to be good with Thor, and patience feels forced in a game like Marvel.
Oh yeah, and yes mighty spark can cancel into itself. It's the fastest beam and the strongest, it's just that it whiffs on many characters when they crouch. Still, it stuffs people like Arthur from doing anything and letting you move in.
Thor is misleading, because you will love him in training mode, then hate him in actual matches. Then something will click for you, and you will love him forever and ever.
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Thor's mobility really cripples him against projectile spam. However, you could try countering by using his light projectile plus Taskmaster's horizontal assist. Thor can get that shot off pretty quick and Taskmaster's assist can give it a lot more punch.
Jumping, dashing forward, and then an airborne Mighty Strike might also help. It has a bit of a charge-up, but can help you get forward pretty swiftly. You can also aim it according to button strength, so you can go straight, angled down, or down.
The best option is probably to just let him take hits to build up meter for Sentinel and Taskmaster supers. Or just swap him out, I guess; Taskmaster can pretty capably counter spam.
I mean the fact that I'm pretty incompetent wasn't to bad in SF4 because at most I would lose maybe 1/4 of a life bar for making a mistake. However in marvel I make many mistakes and all of them end in complete defeat
I also can never seem to make the right decisions like I tag thor out to let him heal up a bit Haggar comes in and I proceed to act like a moron, get Haggar killed and thor loses most of his red life. Arthur hops in and I just throw the wrong projectile and its all over
gah
I tried throwing arthur in there but deadpool/doom still locked down his projectiles. I might try ironman but I find him pretty hard to use.
I ended up taunting a guy tonight. He was Taskmaster / Deadpool / Doom. I was so pissed getting through his spam that when I touched him I made sure to kill him.
When I stood over his fallen Doom, Wesker slowly put on his shades to drag the end out.
He was 100% runaway. He did one combo on me over two matches that wasn't running away.
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workin' on it T_____T
Keeping a steady stream of content driving me bonkers though, especially with a big new release. Keyword search not quite as important when we don't have content to search through, right? :P
I'll definitely let you guys know when cool stuff gets added!
You need to outsource that stuff.
Anyone want to beta read a paranormal mystery novella? Here's your chance.
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On that note, I'm definitely looking for data entry help, if any of you guys are interested. Many of the people working are high school kids that don't have much common sense -___-
Anyone want to beta read a paranormal mystery novella? Here's your chance.
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But time to play video games? fuggedaboutit
That would make it easier.
Hell, when I have a full tourney's worth of videos that I only have to edit and upload I feel like cutting myself. If I had to watch all the ones other people were submitting. :<
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Good work, brodawg.
Against that particular team you could always go Sentinel. If he's running away, he won't be able to prevent HSF's startup, and all it takes is a HSF/x-factor/HSF to kill off one of his assists. Get used to doing it on reaction (when you hear "crossover assist!"), and it'll stuff a lot of runaways. Versus runaway Deadpool in particular, Hard Drive is pretty great at knocking him out of the sky if he's just spamming stars/grenade/etcetera.
You guys think they'll ever adjust the sentinel nerf? I agree that more character need adjustments (Super has to be coming right?) but I think most people think it was over aggressive. And I know the games new still, bur the recent conversation about spiderman for example. Has he ever shown up on a team in a tourney or stream? And we have good players here who are all pretty much in agreement it seems that anything he can do, somebody can do better such as task.
Glad they're fixing glitches and "unintended" 100% combos. What about other 100% combos? Is chun'sLittle reset intended then? (the one where she gets 999 hits kicking yhem in the face) Or they just don't know how to fix it without wrecking the character? Yet didn't cap's "fix" mess up combos for him?
And while several characters could stand to be better, I don't see Spiderman getting the sort of changes he needs. A lot of his problems are on fairly fundamental levels, like the amount of dragon punch commands he has to combo and his finicky melee range and hyper hits.
Yeah, sentinel is my anchor on my team and he makes it easier. I'm mainly worried about getting in with thor but kinderparty gave me some good tips that I'm going to have to try in training mode.
Re: Searching on FADC. I don't think Ive used the search function even a single time. Most of the time I'm looking for character specific stuff so all I need to do is click on a game, click on a character, and click on ultra/assist. It usually gets me everything I'm looking for.
Didn't they rename the MWC? Ultimate Fighting Game Tournament, or something like that?
I really don't think Sentinel will be readjusted until they release a balance patch.
And that probably won't be until Super MvC3 or whatever.
Gonna be at DEV? That's about as far south as I'm going this year. Everything else will be east coast.
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With ass for start up.
Other'n that, super jump like a madman / fly over / kara the shit out of his command throw.
Hulk's command throw is great to use, but Thor's isn't even that good
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He is decent at getting in with his 8 way jump.
His command throw is great for mixups and you can hit launcher right after landing it.
Screw you guys, I'm sticking with thor!
Use the light version?
I just want you to be aware he's bad. I mean...you can still work with bad characters. Doesn't stop them from being bad though.
@Monkeyman or...Zen: Thor's light beam is about as fast as most other people's heavy beams. He can throw it out everything now and then, but he ain't winning no fights.
Unless he takes 150k-200k in chip or other damage, it's not realistically possible to one shot kill him (ignoring X-factor). That gives you one mistake, whereas people like Dante / Wolverine don't get one.
So....that's nice
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Since Sentinel and Mystic Stare covers Shuma's approach, consider a fast, aggressive character with an assist that keeps people out, or just pick a battery character for more THE CHA-OS DI-MEN-SION!!!1
I think Thor's light mighty spark is about as fast as doom's heavy plasma beam. It's almost pointless.
Mainly because I see thor coming in nearly as fast as storm half the time
He sure does. It pays to stay patient and take a little chip damage to get in and do nasty damage with nice resets.
As it stands right now I can do 900,000 damage using 2 bars but it relies on sentinel's otg assist. I'd rather use an assist that helps thor get in more easily and just work more on better thor combos/resets.
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Oh yeah, and yes mighty spark can cancel into itself. It's the fastest beam and the strongest, it's just that it whiffs on many characters when they crouch. Still, it stuffs people like Arthur from doing anything and letting you move in.
Thor is misleading, because you will love him in training mode, then hate him in actual matches. Then something will click for you, and you will love him forever and ever.