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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    They've already established that the admins/mods are privately beta testing the site already and working out all the issues.

    Honestly, if they don't go through the trouble of working it all out ahead of time, there's going to be even more complaints and issues and unknowns cropping up; not from the hardware, which by then should be stable, but rather the software.

    Have some patience, Rome wasn't built in a day.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    They've realized how nice the private forums are when it's just them posting and they've decided to just keep it like that forever rather than deal with all the shit we make them put up with.

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  • ToxTox I kill threads they/themRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    They've realized how nice the private forums are when it's just them posting and they've decided to just keep it like that forever rather than deal with all the shit we make them put up with.

    OR, and I'm just throwing this out there, maybe they're doing their job, which is to make sure a service is, you know, serviceable, before they send it public. Instead of being like a lot of the companies they pan, who toss a new service or product out for use, completely unaware of issues that they would have known about and had time to solve if they'd tested it more thoroughly.

    We have some of the finest geeks in the industry working on this. They're trying to release a product they would want other companies to release to them, and one they can reasonable proud/sure of.

    And yes, I'm aware there's a strong chance you're being sarcastic. Doesn't really belong up here in the Circus, though.

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  • TheCanManTheCanMan GT: Gasman122009 JerseyRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Tox wrote: »
    And yes, I'm aware there's a strong chance you're being sarcastic. Doesn't really belong up here in the Circus, though.

    I'm hoping that by "strong chance" you really meant "absolute certainty". The only possible way he could have made it more obvious would have been to use an actual [sarcasm] tag. Unless you think there's even a slight chance that he literally believes that the mods have decided to keep the new board for themselves?

    I'm actually starting to think that they're not fixing it because it probably makes their lives a whole lot easier. I mean, the post volume must have dropped 60 or 70%. That's a crapload less garbage that has to be moderated. [/sarcasm]

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  • ToxTox I kill threads they/themRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    TheCanMan wrote: »
    Tox wrote: »
    And yes, I'm aware there's a strong chance you're being sarcastic. Doesn't really belong up here in the Circus, though.

    I'm hoping that by "strong chance" you really meant "absolute certainty". The only possible way he could have made it more obvious would have been to use an actual [sarcasm] tag. Unless you think there's even a slight chance that he literally believes that the mods have decided to keep the new board for themselves?

    I'm actually starting to think that they're not fixing it because it probably makes their lives a whole lot easier. I mean, the post volume must have dropped 60 or 70%. That's a crapload less garbage that has to be moderated. [/sarcasm]

    And yet, as I just said, and you quoted, posts like that don't really belong here in the Circus.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I'm sorry, I wasn't aware the "the Circus" was the joke-free zone on these forums. I'll keep what meager quantities of funny I have bottled up when I post here so that nobody will ever have to worry about having the least bit of fun reading these threads.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited June 2011
    We have a perfectly serviceable moderation staff to tell people when they're being inappropriate.

    Tube on
  • Shady3011Shady3011 Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Cool your jets, peeps. E3 is always hard on the forums especially during conference time. At least now the threads aren't full of 90% spam posts.

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  • The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    schuss wrote: »
    I don't want to sound ungrateful, or like I'm demanding anything. You have the right to call me a cunt at any time, you also have the right to shut off service entirely if you want, you don't owe me anything. But I would like to know roughly when the new site will be up. Days, weeks, months? Regular 'server is busy' messages are annoying and I'd like to have a timeframe to look forward to.
    Again, I really like PA and don't want to seem like a dick demanding anything.

    Yeah, it's been a giant PITA lately. If there's no set plan and it's "in the future", well, that sucks.

    I just feel like it's something I can live with, if I've got an ETA to look forward to, even if that ETA is a fair way away.

    Last ETA was "open beta in about 2 weeks", and that was 4 months ago.

    At this point, I'm inclined to think Ramius has been handed the torch when Alpha left and now he's trying to figure out what the fuck is going on before he lets anyone publicly test, so we're basically at square 1.

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  • colawarscolawars Pittsburgh, PARegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    e3 makes the forums shit the bed. Every year. Regardless of how crappy they're running, you guys just need to get over it. And to realize that Tube is reading each and every one of our posts is stunning. Good job keeping this community intact, PA staff. I give high fives to everyone. I'm gonna miss Tube's on purpose, just to see the look on his face.

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  • psychoticdreampsychoticdream Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Cyvros wrote: »
    This has been horrible for me lately.
    Yep, and you're just a user. Imagine what the mods and admins must be going through. "Server is too busy" while infracting? "Please try again later" when locking a thread? I'm just admiring their patience, not only with the server issues, but with testing Vanilla and putting up with us lot down here complaining about all this.

    the potential for mischief....

    nah i'd rather not, i feel bad for the admin and the mods though.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited June 2011
    Last ETA was "open beta in about 2 weeks", and that was 4 months ago.

    At this point, I'm inclined to think Ramius has been handed the torch when Alpha left and now he's trying to figure out what the fuck is going on before he lets anyone publicly test, so we're basically at square 1.

    The forums are already being tested by the moderators. They aren't going to be publically tested, they never were. Go ahead and keep your speculation about things you have no knowledge about to yourself.

    Tube on
  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I thought there was to be a public beta, or at least Alpha hoped to hold a public beta, but then circumstances changed (perhaps due to his departure) and then it got put off indefinitely or cancelled.
    Javen wrote: »
    Sooner than I thought. For some reason I'm used to "new update announced! Look for it in 8-10 months!" so hearing 'next week' at a latest is refreshing. And with PAX just around the corner, too.

    I'm going to revise my statement. As much as I would love to have a public beta before PAX East, I'm only giving it a 40% chance. The more likely scenario is that I will open it up to moderators to poke around first. Opening to the public really depends on how confident we are in the new forums and how smooth of a tech setup we have at PAX East.

    In a worst case scenario, we are still looking at a public beta sometime in the next two weeks.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited June 2011
    Ok there was a small chance of a public beta. There now isn't.

    Tube on
  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    More as;

    Now, there isn't.

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  • AneurhythmiaAneurhythmia Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Last ETA was "open beta in about 2 weeks", and that was 4 months ago.

    At this point, I'm inclined to think Ramius has been handed the torch when Alpha left and now he's trying to figure out what the fuck is going on before he lets anyone publicly test, so we're basically at square 1.

    There was an update on it just two weeks ago. There's a stickied thread for the new forums discussion and everything.

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  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Did the code work? ;)

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    ronya wrote: »
    Did the code work? ;)

    Whatever Ramius did it was a whole lot better than it had been the previous days.

    Kudos.

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    bowen wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    Did the code work? ;)

    Whatever Ramius did it was a whole lot better than it had been the previous days.

    Kudos.

    I noticed at one point that if you use quick reply and server is busy, it just tells you in the box instead of going to a new page and making you lose the entire post. I really, really appreciate Ramius doing that.

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  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Tomanta wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    Did the code work? ;)

    Whatever Ramius did it was a whole lot better than it had been the previous days.

    Kudos.

    I noticed at one point that if you use quick reply and server is busy, it just tells you in the box instead of going to a new page and making you lose the entire post. I really, really appreciate Ramius doing that.

    If you do get the "server busy" page after trying to make a post, you can reload that page once the server is responding and it will resubmit the post data.

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2011
    You can also just use the back button and try again.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    You can also just use the back button and try again.

    This depends entirely on your browser.

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  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Something I'm curious about;

    As I understand it, when the servers get busy enough, they decide to take a 1 minute break and everyone can go do something else briefly while they're on cooldown, so to speak.

    Now, does changing the number of posts shown to a user at a time help or hinder the system in any way? By changing the posts shown per page from 25 to 50, we're requesting more info at a time, but aren't making requests as often.

    I've found that the increase to 50 has helped because as long as I get a request through, I'm seeing two pages at once (compared to default), so I can only assume I'm missing at least some of the cooldown periods that would've otherwise been hit.

    Is this a good idea? Bad idea? Completely irrelevant unless adopted by thousands of users?

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    i don't think it seems to work on a cooldown period, because sometimes I'll get an error, try again and get through immediately, then a couple seconds later another error immediately, or sometimes I'll get an error and not be able to get through for 2-3 tries.

    The increase to 50 per page has definitely helped me with the issue, as I don't need to load as many pages to read a thread, but I used 50 per page before this problem and would continue to afterwards. Can't think of a good reason not to, to be honest. For those who don't view 50 per page, why?

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  • Renegade WolfRenegade Wolf Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    i don't think it seems to work on a cooldown period, because sometimes I'll get an error, try again and get through immediately, then a couple seconds later another error immediately, or sometimes I'll get an error and not be able to get through for 2-3 tries.

    The increase to 50 per page has definitely helped me with the issue, as I don't need to load as many pages to read a thread, but I used 50 per page before this problem and would continue to afterwards. Can't think of a good reason not to, to be honest. For those who don't view 50 per page, why?
    Ramius wrote: »
    ah, this might be worth mentioning:

    When the server decides it is too busy, it basically goes to sleep for 60 seconds so things can cool down. So if you hit a link and get the "too busy" message, everyone else is getting that message at the same time and will be for up to 60 more seconds. So that is why you see it so often "if the previous link resulted in a 'too busy'". The only time that wouldn't be the case is if you happened to come in 58 or 59 seconds into a cool-down period so your next click happens just as the server is recovering.

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  • Burden of ProofBurden of Proof You three boys picked a beautiful hill to die on. Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    goddamn lulzsec, why won't they leave us alone

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Can we pay money for forum stuff

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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    yes I am selling hats

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Quiet you shyster

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2011
    I think Tube has his donation link. You can pay him to hate you ever so slightly less.

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I'd pay him only if I can insult his genitalia without any form of retribution from any source.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited June 2011
    Why are you talking shit in an on topic thread

    This is a rhetorical question

    Tube on
  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    So what's the deal? When is the server busy problem going to be fixed, and when is the search function going to be reinstated?

    Weaver on
  • CyvrosCyvros Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Weaver wrote: »
    So what's the deal? When is the server busy problem going to be fixed, and when is the search function going to be reinstated?

    Switching to a completely alien software and hardware platform is no small thing. Failing to get it right could mean creeping DB issues that don't make themselves known until it's at the brink of complete failure. That sort of error tends to require restoring from an ancient backup.

    Constant busy messages are less irritating than daily mystery crashes that require hours of debugging. :)

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    It was a joke about a prior infraction

    Not talking shit

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  • RancedRanced Default Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I was going to post here to complain but it looks like this has been done many times already. So yeah, I'm suuuper irate and stuff.

    Hope this gets fixed soon!

    Ranced on
  • Renegade WolfRenegade Wolf Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I can't say I've really had a problem with the server busy messages since E3. Maybe one a day now, certainly not a major problem for me. Maybe it's just because of my timezone making me miss the busy spots.

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  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User, Transition Team regular
    edited June 2011
    I get them every noon-time, and every 5PM (CT). I got several just now. In fact, When I looked at the title of this thread in my Chrome tab I clicked it and hit F5 before noticing that OHYEAH THIS IS A THREAD ABOUT SERVER BUSY... but it was too late:

    Instead of refreshing the page, I got a server busy error.

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  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    In the interest of reporting the frequency, it has gone a LOT worse today. I'm getting them most of the time.

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