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Upgrading ye olde Xbox.

rizriz Registered User regular
edited April 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
Well, it finally happened. I was in the kitchen retrieving my coffee mug after hitting the power button on my ancient 360, when I heard this ungodly noise like an alien was shooting a laser through the window at my cat. Noticed no signal was being sent from the Xbox to my TV. My first RROD!

Some friends told me I could possibly try ripping it open and adding pennies, or wrapping it in a towel, maybe performing some kind of hilarious ritual involving a goat and some hard liquor. But I'm thinking, it's been years, I'm just going to get a pretty new black Xbox and call it a day.

My question now is this: Due to online pricing voodoo, it seems I could get a 4GB matte black model plus a sold-separately 250GB hdd for the same price as a 250GB shiny black model itself, and the 4GB comes with a $50 gift credit. The only difference I can tell between the two models is the matte vs. shiny finish, and the 250GB comes with a headset.

Is there any technical difference I'm not catching in the product descriptions? Same case, just different finish? Or is there a size difference? Fans? Is there any internal specs reason to prefer one over the other? I don't care about the headset, and aesthetically I'd prefer the matte finish, and of course $50 cheaper is great too.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    First thing - what does your red ring look like? If it's three-quarters, you've got the hardware failure. If it's all four lights, you just need to re-seat the AV cable.

    As regards the hardware, there's no difference. However, there are two different 250GB hard drives - one for the new Xbox, and one for the old one. They aren't compatible (although you can kinda kludge the old one into the new one, I don't recommend it). Make sure you're looking at the right drive.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Nope. No difference.

    Esh on
  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Willeth wrote: »
    First thing - what does your red ring look like? If it's three-quarters, you've got the hardware failure. If it's all four lights, you just need to re-seat the AV cable.

    As regards the hardware, there's no difference. However, there are two different 250GB hard drives - one for the new Xbox, and one for the old one. They aren't compatible (although you can kinda kludge the old one into the new one, I don't recommend it). Make sure you're looking at the right drive.

    From the sound it made, the thing is kaput. That and [strike]he[/strike] she said [strike]he[/strike] she wanted to buy a new one anyway. And [strike]he[/strike] she was looking at the right drive. It's $85 on Amazon. Just make sure you don't purchase this cheap Chinese offbrand HD for it.

    Esh on
  • SmokeStacksSmokeStacks Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    riz wrote: »
    Some friends told me I could possibly try ripping it open and adding pennies, or wrapping it in a towel, maybe performing some kind of hilarious ritual involving a goat and some hard liquor. But I'm thinking, it's been years, I'm just going to get a pretty new black Xbox and call it a day.

    Buy a new one, but try to fix your old one anyway.

    Worst case scenario is you still have a non-functional 360, but the best case scenario is you have two functional 360s, which means LAN party time.

    There are a bunch of electronics shops in my area that repair RRoD's for around $30, so you might want to check those out. Even if you don't want or need two 360s I'm sure you could find a friend or some kid somewhere who doesn't have a 360 that would love to take it off of your hands.

    Or, you could always throw it up on craigslist as-is. Plenty of people will buy non-functional 360s to fix themselves, as long as you are clear and honest in the ad.

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  • rizriz Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    (She said.) And yeah... It's the three rings, generic hardware failure. I tried unplugging and replugging things, starting it without the hdd connected, doesn't seem to do anything, and it's a good excuse for a new one. ;)

    Anyway, thanks. That hdd on Amazon is even cheaper than where I was looking (Best Buy, $99 right now) so maybe I'll just do that.

    Actually, that's something else I should ask you guys... what kind of HDMI cable should I get? I never got one for the old console. I have a nice TV but no separate sound system (I know, I know). Let's assume from Amazon as well, so I can just order it all at once...

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  • AdusAdus Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    It doesn't matter. You should be able to find one for under 10 dollars. Do not buy into the crap they tell you to try and spend 50 bucks on a cable. It's all the same.

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  • rizriz Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Ah so it doesn't matter if it's for an Xbox, just any cable works? That's unusual, but cool.

    riz on
  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
  • AdusAdus Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    riz wrote: »
    Ah so it doesn't matter if it's for an Xbox, just any cable works? That's unusual, but cool.

    Correct. There's no special Xbox 360 HDMI cable you need or anything. There may have been one back in the day before the 360 didn't have a built in HDMI port, but obviously that's not the case anymore.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Esh wrote: »

    You mean [URL="hhttp://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-High-Speed-Cable-Meters/dp/B003L1ZYYM/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1301869039&sr=1-2"]this link[/URL]. Yours is malformed.

    It also costs ten bucks and is more than six feet long, which is preposterous, whereas this one is less than two bucks and 1.5 feet, which is much more reasonable and has exactly the same video quality.

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  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    you know there's a 3 year warranty against red rings, right?

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Willeth wrote: »
    Esh wrote: »

    You mean [URL="hhttp://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-High-Speed-Cable-Meters/dp/B003L1ZYYM/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1301869039&sr=1-2"]this link[/URL]. Yours is malformed.

    It also costs ten bucks and is more than six feet long, which is preposterous, whereas this one is less than two bucks and 1.5 feet, which is much more reasonable and has exactly the same video quality.

    Yes, [strike]he[/strike] she could order from there but [strike]he[/strike] she said [strike]he[/strike] she wanted to get everything straight from Amazon in one package.
    riz wrote: »
    Actually, that's something else I should ask you guys... what kind of HDMI cable should I get? I never got one for the old console. I have a nice TV but no separate sound system (I know, I know). Let's assume from Amazon as well, so I can just order it all at once...

    Esh on
  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Esh wrote: »
    Willeth wrote: »
    Esh wrote: »

    You mean [URL="hhttp://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-High-Speed-Cable-Meters/dp/B003L1ZYYM/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1301869039&sr=1-2"]this link[/URL]. Yours is malformed.

    It also costs ten bucks and is more than six feet long, which is preposterous, whereas this one is less than two bucks and 1.5 feet, which is much more reasonable and has exactly the same video quality.

    Yes, he could order from there but he said he wanted to get everything straight from Amazon in one package. Miss that part?

    I did. Thanks for not being ridiculously condescending and stand-offish, though.

    I still think that Monoprice is the best option. At worst you wait a couple more days and save money, as well as not having a loop of cable behind your TV.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Willeth wrote: »
    Esh wrote: »
    Willeth wrote: »
    Esh wrote: »

    You mean [URL="hhttp://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-High-Speed-Cable-Meters/dp/B003L1ZYYM/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1301869039&sr=1-2"]this link[/URL]. Yours is malformed.

    It also costs ten bucks and is more than six feet long, which is preposterous, whereas this one is less than two bucks and 1.5 feet, which is much more reasonable and has exactly the same video quality.

    Yes, he could order from there but he said he wanted to get everything straight from Amazon in one package. Miss that part?

    I did. Thanks for not being ridiculously condescending and stand-offish, though.

    I still think that Monoprice is the best option. At worst you wait a couple more days and save money, as well as not having a loop of cable behind your TV.

    Maybe you shouldn't call my replies "preposterous" than. :P

    If [strike]he[/strike] she hadn't said "from Amazon" I would've recommended Monoprice as well, but I was just answering the question [strike]he[/strike] she asked. With shipping from Monoprice [strike]he's[/strike] she's only going to save a couple bucks. It's a price I'm willing to pay to get everything in one nice neat package.

    Esh on
  • rizriz Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Oh my god Esh stop saying "he"... :lol:

    And yeah I've seen people mention Monoprice around here, quite recently in fact, but that is largely why I mentioned the Amazon thing. Possible headache of separate shipping is worth the cost of a latte, in my little world.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    riz wrote: »
    Oh my god Esh stop saying "he"... :lol:

    And yeah I've seen people mention Monoprice around here, quite recently in fact, but that is largely why I mentioned the Amazon thing. Possible headache of separate shipping is worth the cost of a latte, in my little world.

    Whoops, sorry.

    EDIT: All fixed!

    Esh on
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