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  • NickleNickle Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Waka Laka wrote: »
    Nickle wrote: »
    Waka Laka wrote: »
    I thought that they would at least replace the character models with something more spiffy, even the StarFox Adventures models would have sufficed.

    The character models are definitely more "spiffy", I think perhaps you are remembering the 64 version too fondly?

    I still have the original on the N64 and played it just last week, the models look really bad. Even the DS version of Mario 64 had updated models with better poly counts. The StarFox models look like the older ones in a basic gourand shader.

    I just watched the intro to the original game, if you don't think these models have a higher poly count then I don't know what to say. The faces look completely different, and the arms aren't made of boxes, for starters.

    For reference:
    Here is the original game

    Or are you just trolling? I can never tell.

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  • SeolSeol Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Yeah, the remade sequence is clearly a very faithful homage (the Slippy run is exactly the same), but those are much, much higher detail models.

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Green wrote: »
    jothki wrote: »
    I finally bothered to unlock all of the AR stuff. The clock has a nifty easter egg or two in it.

    I now believe that there needs to be a Super Smash Brothers for the 3DS, solely so that it can have AR trophies.

    Clock? I don't remember there being an AR clock. Let me go boot up AR Games again.

    15 minutes later

    OH SHIT I BLEW UP MY GLOBE

    Ooh, didn't figure that out, how?

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  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Nickle wrote: »
    Waka Laka wrote: »
    Nickle wrote: »
    Waka Laka wrote: »
    I thought that they would at least replace the character models with something more spiffy, even the StarFox Adventures models would have sufficed.

    The character models are definitely more "spiffy", I think perhaps you are remembering the 64 version too fondly?

    I still have the original on the N64 and played it just last week, the models look really bad. Even the DS version of Mario 64 had updated models with better poly counts. The StarFox models look like the older ones in a basic gourand shader.

    I just watched the intro to the original game, if you don't think these models have a higher poly count then I don't know what to say. The faces look completely different, and the arms aren't made of boxes, for starters.

    For reference:
    Here is the original game

    Or are you just trolling? I can never tell.

    Definitely night and day

    I'd say this is as much a remake as Ocarina of Time

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  • SeolSeol Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    It's got that whole... this feels like it hasn't changed at all vibe. The faithfulness of the adaptation, the distance of the original, and the fact that 3DS graphics are still below the curve compared to the cutting edge of PS360 stuff, means you don't notice the upgrades.

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  • ChopperDaveChopperDave Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I kind of have to wonder why they're doing all these remakes of N64 games when most developers are saying that the thing can pull off 0XBOX-caliber graphics.

    A 3D port of, say, Metroid Prime or Mario Sunshine would be way rad and would really showcase the device's capabilities.

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  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I kind of have to wonder why they're doing all these remakes of N64 games when most developers are saying that the thing can pull off 0XBOX-caliber graphics.

    A 3D port of, say, Metroid Prime or Mario Sunshine would be way rad and would really showcase the device's capabilities.

    Mario Sunshine isn't super popular, and Metroid in general isn't very popular in Japan.

    The one GameCube title they should have done (and still should do!) though is Luigi's Mansion.

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  • RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Yeah, that is kind of odd. I would think a straight 3D port of one of the big Gamecube Nintendo games (Metroid, Mario, Zelda, or even F-Zero or Wave Race) would be less work and sell just as well or better than a N64 enhanced port.

    Oh and since Capcom is no stranger to ports - REmake 3D. Make it happen.

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  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    My personal guesses here:

    I think Ocarina of Time was something they've been wanting to remake for awhile. They've sort of said in interviews that they were looking to do it, but were worried about doing it right since it's such a popular game. It's possible Ocarina of Time DS was planned at some point, or at least suggested (since hell, DS is practically an N64 anyways). But for whatever reason, they moved it up to 3DS instead - perhaps they wanted it to look better, or 3DS was close enough coming that it made sense to "upgrade" it, whatever.

    As for Starfox 64, it kind of makes sense. Starfox (classic) was their first real polygonal game (or "3D" game, even though technically polygonal and "3D" are not the same :P). And Starfox 64 is regarded as the best one. I'd guess at some point someone made a tech demo of a Starfox level to show off the 3D, and someone else saw it and said "that's awesome, let's turn it into a full game", and so they did.

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  • SeolSeol Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I guess there's nothing as individually iconic from the GC era as either OoT or Starfox.

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  • GuekGuek Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Seol wrote: »
    I guess there's nothing as individually iconic from the GC era as either OoT or Starfox.

    closest thing might be metroid prime

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  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Well, there's Wind Waker :P

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  • MonkeyConQuesoMonkeyConQueso No more MH Claw Happy handsRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I think I'd play Wind Waker on the 3DS. In fact, I know I would.

    But honestly? I really want them to work on new games from old IP, or even new IP.

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  • HeleorHeleor SeattleRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Seol wrote: »
    I guess there's nothing as individually iconic from the GC era as either OoT or Starfox.

    Pikmin.
    Animal Crossing (in the US)

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  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Actually I would kill for a 3D Remake of Eternal Darkness :D That game was the shit.

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  • mntorankusumntorankusu I'm not sure how to use this thing.... Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    It's clear the 3DS is capable of displaying graphics that are visually "better" than the Gamecube, but the two systems have different strengths and weaknesses. It would probably be more work to faithfully port a game like Super Mario Sunshine than it is to completely remake a game like Star Fox 64, and there's still a good chance it would come out looking worse than the original version.

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  • The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    Actually I would kill for a 3D Remake of Eternal Darkness :D That game was the shit.

    3D + Sanity Effects.. the horror the horror...

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    Actually I would kill for a 3D Remake of Eternal Darkness :D That game was the shit.

    3D + Sanity Effects.. the horror the horror...

    The things you could do with depth perception...

    I'm not talking about just having things pop up in your face, I'm talking about having the game lie to you about the geometry of the level or the positions of enemies. Have invisible enemies that have presence even though they're nearly impossible to see, or illusions that project into the terrain rather than standing where they should be. At the most extreme, have environments where what your individual eyes see is a complete lie, and you have to move around relying solely on depth perception.

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Speaking of things popping up in your face...

    http://www.3dsbuzz.com/kagura-portrait-of-girls-perverts-your-3ds/

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  • MarioGMarioG Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    So can I cheat and get more coins by changing the date on my 3DS?

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  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    MarioG wrote: »
    So can I cheat and get more coins by changing the date on my 3DS?

    Apparently if you change the time back, you'll lose any coins you gained during the time change.

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  • GraviijaGraviija Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Damn, the difficulty in Samurai Warriors really amps up near the end of chapter one. I was dominating, dominating, then dying a whole lot.

    Still though, the more I play it, the more I like the game. It seems like standard DW fare, but it's really a pretty good, meaty game for launch.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    skeldare wrote: »
    MarioG wrote: »
    So can I cheat and get more coins by changing the date on my 3DS?

    Apparently if you change the time back, you'll lose any coins you gained during the time change.

    Nope. I've gained hundreds of coins doing this. Change the time forward a day, earn 10 coins, change it forward another day, earn another 10 coins, set it back to the correct day, earn yet another 10 coins (even if you've already earned your coins for that day - if you've got 1300 steps, the next 1000 will earn you 10 more!).

    When midnight rolls over into the next day, all the extra steps on future days will have been forgotten, but the coins remain. You should always try to make sure you set the date back to the correct one when you're done, but it's not crucial and won't cause any major problems.

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  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    skeldare wrote: »
    MarioG wrote: »
    So can I cheat and get more coins by changing the date on my 3DS?

    Apparently if you change the time back, you'll lose any coins you gained during the time change.

    Nope. I've gained hundreds of coins doing this. Change the time forward a day, earn 10 coins, change it forward another day, earn another 10 coins, set it back to the correct day, earn yet another 10 coins (even if you've already earned your coins for that day - if you've got 1300 steps, the next 1000 will earn you 10 more!).

    When midnight rolls over into the next day, all the extra steps on future days will have been forgotten, but the coins remain. You should always try to make sure you set the date back to the correct one when you're done, but it's not crucial and won't cause any major problems.

    Well, learn something new every day. :)

    Guess I should research what I say more.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    That's awesome... I hit 9500 steps today at work, so I lost out on all those delicious coins. Going to have to change the date on my 3DS on my breaks tomorrow. :D

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  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    A Wind Waker rerelease is on the horizon. We just have to hope it's more than a port. Adding in the 3 cut dungeons and perhaps spicing up the islands a bit would make it the best Zelda, easily.

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  • MarioGMarioG Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    The system maxes at 30 coins right?

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  • LorahaloLorahalo Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    There were 3 cut dungeons in WW? I thought it was 2. I know there was the Fire and Ice islands, what was the third?

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  • mntorankusumntorankusu I'm not sure how to use this thing.... Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Jabun.

    There's no real information about what exactly was cut though. Just some vague statements in interviews along with what's apparent in the game.

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  • The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    MarioG wrote: »
    The system maxes at 30 coins right?

    I don't think so, I think I had over 40 at one point.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    MarioG wrote: »
    The system maxes at 30 coins right?

    I don't think so, I think I had over 40 at one point.

    Sitting on 68 right now. Just haven't pulled out my AR card again recently (or blown them on SF4 figurines).

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  • GreenGreen Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas.Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    jothki wrote: »
    Green wrote: »
    jothki wrote: »
    I finally bothered to unlock all of the AR stuff. The clock has a nifty easter egg or two in it.

    I now believe that there needs to be a Super Smash Brothers for the 3DS, solely so that it can have AR trophies.

    Clock? I don't remember there being an AR clock. Let me go boot up AR Games again.

    15 minutes later

    OH SHIT I BLEW UP MY GLOBE

    Ooh, didn't figure that out, how?

    Just keep shooting it

    After it blows up they play sad music and you have to buy a new one

    Green on
  • GreenGreen Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas.Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    jothki wrote: »
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    Actually I would kill for a 3D Remake of Eternal Darkness :D That game was the shit.

    3D + Sanity Effects.. the horror the horror...

    The things you could do with depth perception...

    I'm not talking about just having things pop up in your face, I'm talking about having the game lie to you about the geometry of the level or the positions of enemies. Have invisible enemies that have presence even though they're nearly impossible to see, or illusions that project into the terrain rather than standing where they should be. At the most extreme, have environments where what your individual eyes see is a complete lie, and you have to move around relying solely on depth perception.

    Even the gimmicky stuff could be amazing

    When the game throws a jump scare at you, the inner camera snaps your reaction

    Green on
  • MarioGMarioG Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    MarioG wrote: »
    The system maxes at 30 coins right?

    I don't think so, I think I had over 40 at one point.

    Sitting on 68 right now. Just haven't pulled out my AR card again recently (or blown them on SF4 figurines).

    Oh. I have no clue where I pulled that from, then.

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  • GreenGreen Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas.Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    MarioG wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    MarioG wrote: »
    The system maxes at 30 coins right?

    I don't think so, I think I had over 40 at one point.

    Sitting on 68 right now. Just haven't pulled out my AR card again recently (or blown them on SF4 figurines).

    Oh. I have no clue where I pulled that from, then.

    The max is 300 I think

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  • Junior YankJunior Yank Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Today, I finished the skirmishes (and therefore reached 100% completion) in Ghost Recon: Shadow Wars. The system tells me that I spent 65 hrs on it. This sounds like a lot... does it count sleep time?

    In any case, there's a lot of tactical gaming goodness here. I would have liked more personality from the characters and/or a more interesting story. Hopefully there will be a bunch of other games in this genre to pick up the slack.

    For me, the toughest skirmish missions were:
    -The one where you use the Megadrone. I thought that this was impossible, until I read the objective and found that I didn't have to kill the tanks.

    -Urban shootout. Outnumbered and outgunned, I only was able to beat it thanks to AI foolishness. If you don't advance your troops early on, the enemy sends their troops in small, easy-to-manage chunks.

    -Lighthouse defense. It seemed like the second (or was it third?) time that I attempted this mission, the AI was less aggressive in sending its units at me. Around the time the snipers showed up, a bunch of troops stayed on the edge of the map until I moved an engineer out of the lighthouse.

    -Turret defense. Pretty fun mission, though it took me a couple of tries. I used a gunner, recon, and then the commando. Lots of suppression, rapid-strike knifing and rocket attacks.

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  • MarioGMarioG Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I'm feeling a bit of buyers remorse on Ghost Recon. It's a cool light game and the mechanics are interesting but the whole product is just generally bland. Not to mention that I'm not really huge on games with war conflict stories.

    I'm thinking about selling it back to GameStop and getting something else in return. Maybe RayMan. I've never played 2.

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  • Road BlockRoad Block Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    The amount of mii's I've lost to a bloody dark room is quite frankly amazing.

    As an aside Ghost Recon is amazing, though admittedly the plot is nothing to write home about.

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    MarioG wrote: »
    I'm feeling a bit of buyers remorse on Ghost Recon. It's a cool light game and the mechanics are interesting but the whole product is just generally bland. Not to mention that I'm not really huge on games with war conflict stories.

    I'm thinking about selling it back to GameStop and getting something else in return. Maybe RayMan. I've never played 2.

    A bit of a warning, Rayman 2 is old. Neat, but old.

    It has some good set pieces, but it sort of feels like it's lacking something somehow, like it doesn't have much to it beyond those set pieces. It isn't the sort of world that you can just enjoy running around in, if that's the sort of thing you care about.

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  • JintorJintor Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Road Block wrote: »
    The amount of mii's I've lost to a bloody dark room is quite frankly amazing.

    As an aside Ghost Recon is amazing, though admittedly the plot is nothing to write home about.

    You're wrong. It's something to write home about, to tell them to ignore it completely

    seriously fuck this writing, it's so bad

    Thankfully the game is really really really solid. Damnit this just makes me lust for X-Com on 3DS. I want that... overgame? Overworld? Macrogame? I want it so much

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