I reckon it'd be cool if there was a BG2 style subquest where you uncover a suit of armour made from woven together Batarian Skin that you have to be full Renegade to use. The Hide of Many Eyes, makes your finger pointing shoot Cain rounds and your dancing impregnate Asari.
Why would they want to kill Shepard if he gave them the base?
tying up loose ends. they dont need him anymore, he knows more than most about their workings and infrastructure.
man what
TIM spent 4 billion credits reviving you instead of building an army because he knows you are the only one who can stop the reapers, he didn't even know about the base until the very end.
Tal, I fear that you are just going to slowly melt down until there is nothing left but a gibbering mess as we get more information about ME3 that contradicts your world-view.
Why would they want to kill Shepard if he gave them the base?
tying up loose ends. they dont need him anymore, he knows more than most about their workings and infrastructure.
man what
TIM spent 4 billion credits reviving you instead of building an army because he knows you are the only one who can stop the reapers, he didn't even know about the base until the very end.
Maybe TIM decided that a dead messianic figure is far more useful than the 4 billion spacedollar man running around the galaxy following whatever whims that strikes him?
Personally I'm hoping that there's more to the situation than TIM becoming indoctrinated.
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Why would they want to kill Shepard if he gave them the base?
tying up loose ends. they dont need him anymore, he knows more than most about their workings and infrastructure.
man what
TIM spent 4 billion credits reviving you instead of building an army because he knows you are the only one who can stop the reapers, he didn't even know about the base until the very end.
i hope its a choice affect thing, and they wont be after you if you kept the base or something.
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Tal, I fear that you are just going to slowly melt down until there is nothing left but a gibbering mess as we get more information about ME3 that contradicts your world-view.
-Tal's actually right in this situation though.
I mean it's shocking but he is.
Beyond some unexplained phenomena we have yet to figure out, TIM has no reason to be after you. Even if you did destroy the base.
Is it even confirmed that it's TIM? I mean think about it: Cerberus has always been a loose association of bad corporations/military/scientists that as we've learned in ME2 is the result of a lot of their cells going rogue or a serious lack of oversight.
Is it really a stretch of imagination that maybe there was a coup? Maybe TIM lost all of his clout when Shepard blew up the base and told him to fuck off. That's 4 billion Credits down the drain and shepard knows a lot of the inner workings of the organization. It only makes sense to kill him off.
Or if you gave TIM the base, as we've seen in the past, maybe the Cerberus team that got there decided to overthrow TIM with the new tech or someone else within Cerberus planned to use it take over from the start.
TIM may believe in you but Cerberus as a whole does not.
"Shepard, you've already gained valuable experience fighting reapers, but that alone won't be enough. The only way we'll be able to defeat the reapers for good is if you gain more experience. That's why I'm pitting the full might of Cerberus against you, Shepard. You're good at killing and my men are damned good at dying."
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Is it even confirmed that it's TIM? I mean think about it: Cerberus has always been a loose association of bad corporations/military/scientists that as we've learned in ME2 is the result of a lot of their cells going rogue or a serious lack of oversight.
Is it really a stretch of imagination that maybe there was a coup? Maybe TIM lost all of his clout when Shepard blew up the base and told him to fuck off. That's 4 billion Credits down the drain and shepard knows a lot of the inner workings of the organization. It only makes sense to kill him off.
Or if you gave TIM the base, as we've seen in the past, maybe the Cerberus team that got there decided to overthrow TIM with the new tech or someone else within Cerberus planned to use it take over from the start.
TIM may believe in you but Cerberus as a whole does not.
That could have happened also.
Heck, at the end of Retribution TIM is basically scrapping up whatever scraps he has left and he was forced to make a deal with Aria.
Someone could have saw that as a moment of weakness and pounced for control.
"I have been told that we have to give you up, Shepard. To them. They said they would let some of us live, Shepard. That our species would be allowed to continue its existence, albeit at diminished numbers. I have to deliver you to them, Shepard. Dead or alive. For yoomanity.
*smokes*"
I hope TIM becomes the antagonist or at least someone Shepard has to stand up against in ME3. He's the only thing close to a respectable opponent to go up against Shepard that is not a faceless machine
TIM is not dumb enough to make a deal with the reapers. Reaper technology is the only thing he's careful with. He usually lets his employees, including you, do whatever the hell they want in pursuit of a goal and observes them but rarely interferes. This can lead to bad things like Overlord. But when he studied Grayson, he was physically on the scene supervising the whole thing and immediately ordered Grayson's termination when he started acting dangerous. We could have learned a lot if it wasn't for those turians.
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TIM has absolutely no reason to hunt you. I am 100% sure that the Cerberus guys hunting you are not following TIM's orders.
Unless for any reason he thought you were more valuable for yoomanity dead or captured. He says as much like five times in the second game. New data suggested you're not in the best interests of the agenda? He'd flipflop like a fish on dry land.
That's his DEFINING characteristic. Within the cause anything, outside the cause nothing. 4 billion space moneys and Shepard aren't that special. Faustian bargain seems more likely than a coup or rogue cell.
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"Grip 'em up, grip 'em, grip 'em good, said the Gryphon... to the pig."
TIM is not dumb enough to make a deal with the reapers. Reaper technology is the only thing he's careful with. He usually lets his employees, including you, do whatever the hell they want in pursuit of a goal and observes them but rarely interferes. This can lead to bad things like Overlord. But when he studied Grayson, he was physically on the scene supervising the whole thing and ordered Grayson's immediate termination when he started acting dangerous. We could have learned a lot if it wasn't for those turians.
Well, if the reapers are shitting all over earth while offering the deal he might be more receptible. Kind of like Breen in Half-Life 2
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"Shepard, you've already gained valuable experience fighting reapers, but that alone won't be enough. The only way we'll be able to defeat the reapers for good is if you gain more experience. That's why I'm pitting the full might of Cerberus against you, Shepard. You're good at killing and my men are damned good at dying."
I'm picturing TIM as a DM finding a random encounter that will give his party just enough XP to level up before the next major encounter. The thought amuses me.
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tying up loose ends. they dont need him anymore, he knows more than most about their workings and infrastructure.
they actually gave you a similar suit that everyone ignores because the helmet doesn't come off
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Kinda like how Earth relies on Superman to defeat then invaders, at which point they put him on trial with red sun radiation and kryptonite.
Still, you'd think they'd wait until after he saved the galaxy. Because they explicitly believe he is the only person capable of doing it.
Maybe Cerberus just needed Shepard to put them in a position to save the galaxy. That way they could take all the credit.
man what
TIM spent 4 billion credits reviving you instead of building an army because he knows you are the only one who can stop the reapers, he didn't even know about the base until the very end.
Maybe that's why he's going after Shep now that the Reapers are back
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Personally I'm hoping that there's more to the situation than TIM becoming indoctrinated.
I don't know...there is different from your Cerberus Armor and the Hulkbuster Mark-02 I'll seeing in those screens.
i hope its a choice affect thing, and they wont be after you if you kept the base or something.
-Tal's actually right in this situation though.
I mean it's shocking but he is.
Beyond some unexplained phenomena we have yet to figure out, TIM has no reason to be after you. Even if you did destroy the base.
maybe he made a deal with the reapers
Honestly, I don't think any conclusions can be drawn at this point.
Is it really a stretch of imagination that maybe there was a coup? Maybe TIM lost all of his clout when Shepard blew up the base and told him to fuck off. That's 4 billion Credits down the drain and shepard knows a lot of the inner workings of the organization. It only makes sense to kill him off.
Or if you gave TIM the base, as we've seen in the past, maybe the Cerberus team that got there decided to overthrow TIM with the new tech or someone else within Cerberus planned to use it take over from the start.
TIM may believe in you but Cerberus as a whole does not.
Also, you know how the phrase "Bigger, better, and more badass" was used as the tagline of Gears of War 2? Well, I think it's applicable to ME3.
"Shepard, you've already gained valuable experience fighting reapers, but that alone won't be enough. The only way we'll be able to defeat the reapers for good is if you gain more experience. That's why I'm pitting the full might of Cerberus against you, Shepard. You're good at killing and my men are damned good at dying."
That could have happened also.
Heck, at the end of Retribution TIM is basically scrapping up whatever scraps he has left and he was forced to make a deal with Aria.
Someone could have saw that as a moment of weakness and pounced for control.
*smokes*"
I hope TIM becomes the antagonist or at least someone Shepard has to stand up against in ME3. He's the only thing close to a respectable opponent to go up against Shepard that is not a faceless machine
Absolutely, unless something major has changed, which can't be ruled out yet.
Unless for any reason he thought you were more valuable for yoomanity dead or captured. He says as much like five times in the second game. New data suggested you're not in the best interests of the agenda? He'd flipflop like a fish on dry land.
That's his DEFINING characteristic. Within the cause anything, outside the cause nothing. 4 billion space moneys and Shepard aren't that special. Faustian bargain seems more likely than a coup or rogue cell.
Well, if the reapers are shitting all over earth while offering the deal he might be more receptible. Kind of like Breen in Half-Life 2
I'm picturing TIM as a DM finding a random encounter that will give his party just enough XP to level up before the next major encounter. The thought amuses me.