The funny thing about this game is that no matter how hyped I get for it, I know I won't be disappointed. My expectations for ME2 were so high I didn't think the game could possibly meet them and it blew me away. The DLC only made it better. Now it's just up to Bioware to outdo the launch trailer for ME2, which so far has yet to be bested by even the best movie trailer. Meer's delivery in that one was amazing (IMHO, at least).
So, when I originally played ME1 at launch, I played pure paragon, romanced Ashley and with KotoR still fresh in my mind, barely gave "Carth" the time of day. Later I lost the save.
Since then, I replayed making opposite choices, including siding with Kaiden.
A few days ago I finished a replay where I recreated my original lost play through, and man...I don't know how I ever put up with her. She better be awesome in ME3.
The worst part is I don't know if I should continue the run in ME2 and stay "faithful" or not.
Man that just makes me think of Virmire. I sent Ashley with the captain cause it made sense to have the soldier go, and the engineer arm the bomb. Later on, it made sense to go back to the ship, my way of escape, than go rescue Ashley. What made it worse was the Shepard I was playing was romancing Ashley, so to have him go "I'm sorry...I had to make a choice." was heart-wrenching.
My "canon" Shep always goes back to protect the bomb, because it seems a lot more important than whatever the AA tower guy is doing, vague assurances that "this bomb will go off no matter what" notwithstanding.
That "How Mass Effect began" interview takes me back.
I remember the first article I ever read about Mass Effect, all the way back in 05. It was a lot different then, for example, the Spectres were a human organization, The Citadel, was called The Oculon, and was designed much differently, and your first mission was to root out a human general gone mad.
My "canon" Shep always goes back to protect the bomb, because it seems a lot more important than whatever the AA tower guy is doing, vague assurances that "this bomb will go off no matter what" notwithstanding.
I maintain that it is unnecessary to go back for the bomb, given that it is a bomb and that taking care of it until it explodes probably wasn't part of the plan to begin with.
My "canon" Shep always goes back to protect the bomb, because it seems a lot more important than whatever the AA tower guy is doing, vague assurances that "this bomb will go off no matter what" notwithstanding.
I maintain that it is unnecessary to go back for the bomb, given that it is a bomb and that taking care of it until it explodes probably wasn't part of the plan to begin with.
Besides, the salarians are on the AA Tower too.
not really, the geth might disable it if your not there or kill whoever was guarding it before they got a chance to set it off, thats always mine reasoning.
My "canon" Shep always goes back to protect the bomb, because it seems a lot more important than whatever the AA tower guy is doing, vague assurances that "this bomb will go off no matter what" notwithstanding.
I maintain that it is unnecessary to go back for the bomb, given that it is a bomb and that taking care of it until it explodes probably wasn't part of the plan to begin with.
Besides, the salarians are on the AA Tower too.
not really, the geth might disable it if your not there or kill whoever was guarding it before they got a chance to set it off, thats always mine reasoning.
So you figure the plan was to have a guy sit on the bomb until it explodes? What if he gets shot? Do you need a whole squad of guys?
If the geth can hack the thing or whatever, the plan is kind of fucked from the start, isn't it?
My "canon" Shep always goes back to protect the bomb, because it seems a lot more important than whatever the AA tower guy is doing, vague assurances that "this bomb will go off no matter what" notwithstanding.
I honestly don't even know if it's possible to choose the other option. I've always protected the bomb.
Man that just makes me think of Virmire. I sent Ashley with the captain cause it made sense to have the soldier go, and the engineer arm the bomb. Later on, it made sense to go back to the ship, my way of escape, than go rescue Ashley. What made it worse was the Shepard I was playing was romancing Ashley, so to have him go "I'm sorry...I had to make a choice." was heart-wrenching.
Oh, and talking Saren to death? Awesome.
Except you don't.
You talk Saren into being King Hopper. Which he was going to be anyway.
Kind of detracts from the sheer effectiveness of the moment. A lot, I think. It does say something about the futility of trying to resist indoctrination, but at the same time, that in turn diminishes your confrontation of Saren. Regardless of what you say, the outcome is the same.
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My "canon" Shep always goes back to protect the bomb, because it seems a lot more important than whatever the AA tower guy is doing, vague assurances that "this bomb will go off no matter what" notwithstanding.
I honestly don't even know if it's possible to choose the other option. I've always protected the bomb.
So, your plan is to turn back, go to the person protesting to leave them, ignore the people you JUST LEFT TO RESCUE, assume the bomb can be magically set to not explode within, oh, a minute oh so, and then leave Captain Kirrahe to die.
My "canon" Shep always goes back to protect the bomb, because it seems a lot more important than whatever the AA tower guy is doing, vague assurances that "this bomb will go off no matter what" notwithstanding.
I honestly don't even know if it's possible to choose the other option. I've always protected the bomb.
It might have helped if the Normandy left more than one guy to cover the bomb tech.
There's at least, like, four of those marines on the Bridge alone! Is morale so low that we need a full security detail 24/7 to prevent a mutiny or something?
Edit: Speaking of morale, I kind of wonder how the Normandy's crew felt about getting dragged off to Ilos in violation of their orders. You never really talk to an ordinary crewman, and I don't remember Shepard even notifying them that he's totally stealing their ship and making them all liable for court martial.
Man that just makes me think of Virmire. I sent Ashley with the captain cause it made sense to have the soldier go, and the engineer arm the bomb. Later on, it made sense to go back to the ship, my way of escape, than go rescue Ashley. What made it worse was the Shepard I was playing was romancing Ashley, so to have him go "I'm sorry...I had to make a choice." was heart-wrenching.
Oh, and talking Saren to death? Awesome.
Except you don't.
You talk Saren into being King Hopper. Which he was going to be anyway.
Kind of detracts from the sheer effectiveness of the moment. A lot, I think. It does say something about the futility of trying to resist indoctrination, but at the same time, that in turn diminishes your confrontation of Saren. Regardless of what you say, the outcome is the same.
I talked myself into only having one boss fight, not two, which is helpful. Also, you give Saren the choice of trying to stop it, even if it is futile.
So, I beat the game finally, and go through the credits, and am not given the option to save. I thought you had to wait until the end for it? Or is it the save they do right before the final conversation with the council/Udina? Just wondering for Mass Effect 2. Also, to upload my old save, is it just a simple option in the begining screen?
Man that just makes me think of Virmire. I sent Ashley with the captain cause it made sense to have the soldier go, and the engineer arm the bomb. Later on, it made sense to go back to the ship, my way of escape, than go rescue Ashley. What made it worse was the Shepard I was playing was romancing Ashley, so to have him go "I'm sorry...I had to make a choice." was heart-wrenching.
Oh, and talking Saren to death? Awesome.
Except you don't.
You talk Saren into being King Hopper. Which he was going to be anyway.
Kind of detracts from the sheer effectiveness of the moment. A lot, I think. It does say something about the futility of trying to resist indoctrination, but at the same time, that in turn diminishes your confrontation of Saren. Regardless of what you say, the outcome is the same.
I talked myself into only having one boss fight, not two, which is helpful. Also, you give Saren the choice of trying to stop it, even if it is futile.
So, I beat the game finally, and go through the credits, and am not given the option to save. I thought you had to wait until the end for it? Or is it the save they do right before the final conversation with the council/Udina? Just wondering for Mass Effect 2. Also, to upload my old save, is it just a simple option in the begining screen?
As long as the credits have started you are safe.
When you go into ME2 you go new game, import ME1 save
it's really easy and you wont miss it.
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Man that just makes me think of Virmire. I sent Ashley with the captain cause it made sense to have the soldier go, and the engineer arm the bomb. Later on, it made sense to go back to the ship, my way of escape, than go rescue Ashley. What made it worse was the Shepard I was playing was romancing Ashley, so to have him go "I'm sorry...I had to make a choice." was heart-wrenching.
Oh, and talking Saren to death? Awesome.
Except you don't.
You talk Saren into being King Hopper. Which he was going to be anyway.
Kind of detracts from the sheer effectiveness of the moment. A lot, I think. It does say something about the futility of trying to resist indoctrination, but at the same time, that in turn diminishes your confrontation of Saren. Regardless of what you say, the outcome is the same.
I talked myself into only having one boss fight, not two, which is helpful. Also, you give Saren the choice of trying to stop it, even if it is futile.
So, I beat the game finally, and go through the credits, and am not given the option to save. I thought you had to wait until the end for it? Or is it the save they do right before the final conversation with the council/Udina? Just wondering for Mass Effect 2. Also, to upload my old save, is it just a simple option in the begining screen?
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I always save Ashley because Kaiden sucks. Yes, Ashley has a long and kind of drawn-out backstory, but as a man, I'm used to listening to women talk about things I don't care about. Especially if I'm trying to sleep with them. Kaiden's story is "I didn't know how to control my brain magic, and I killed a guy. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!"
Again, the AA tower thing is neat. Kirrahe pretty much flat-out tells you that once the bomb is armed, it's going to be all but impossible to disarm it, so there's no reason to go back and save Whiny McBiotic, and those Salarians really stuck their necks out for me, so I should repay them by coming to their rescue.
Even LESS reason to be a bitch on Horizon though, Ash. WTF?
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Edit: Speaking of morale, I kind of wonder how the Normandy's crew felt about getting dragged off to Ilos in violation of their orders. You never really talk to an ordinary crewman, and I don't remember Shepard even notifying them that he's totally stealing their ship and making them all liable for court martial.
He'd be liable; not them. In a situation like that, they'd get off with a "we were following our CO's orders" defense and that'd be that.
Man that just makes me think of Virmire. I sent Ashley with the captain cause it made sense to have the soldier go, and the engineer arm the bomb. Later on, it made sense to go back to the ship, my way of escape, than go rescue Ashley. What made it worse was the Shepard I was playing was romancing Ashley, so to have him go "I'm sorry...I had to make a choice." was heart-wrenching.
Oh, and talking Saren to death? Awesome.
Except you don't.
You talk Saren into being King Hopper. Which he was going to be anyway.
Kind of detracts from the sheer effectiveness of the moment. A lot, I think. It does say something about the futility of trying to resist indoctrination, but at the same time, that in turn diminishes your confrontation of Saren. Regardless of what you say, the outcome is the same.
I talked myself into only having one boss fight, not two, which is helpful. Also, you give Saren the choice of trying to stop it, even if it is futile.
So, I beat the game finally, and go through the credits, and am not given the option to save. I thought you had to wait until the end for it? Or is it the save they do right before the final conversation with the council/Udina? Just wondering for Mass Effect 2. Also, to upload my old save, is it just a simple option in the begining screen?
As long as the credits have started you are safe.
When you go into ME2 you go new game, import ME1 save
it's really easy and you wont miss it.
So confused right now, got two different answers. Also, does the Mass Effect 2 Deluxe edition on Steam come with any of the good DLC? It doesn't look like it, but wandering if anyone has bought it.
Edit: so its a simple option, but I need an importing tool? Sorry for all the questions.
Man that just makes me think of Virmire. I sent Ashley with the captain cause it made sense to have the soldier go, and the engineer arm the bomb. Later on, it made sense to go back to the ship, my way of escape, than go rescue Ashley. What made it worse was the Shepard I was playing was romancing Ashley, so to have him go "I'm sorry...I had to make a choice." was heart-wrenching.
Oh, and talking Saren to death? Awesome.
Except you don't.
You talk Saren into being King Hopper. Which he was going to be anyway.
Kind of detracts from the sheer effectiveness of the moment. A lot, I think. It does say something about the futility of trying to resist indoctrination, but at the same time, that in turn diminishes your confrontation of Saren. Regardless of what you say, the outcome is the same.
I talked myself into only having one boss fight, not two, which is helpful. Also, you give Saren the choice of trying to stop it, even if it is futile.
So, I beat the game finally, and go through the credits, and am not given the option to save. I thought you had to wait until the end for it? Or is it the save they do right before the final conversation with the council/Udina? Just wondering for Mass Effect 2. Also, to upload my old save, is it just a simple option in the begining screen?
As long as the credits have started you are safe.
When you go into ME2 you go new game, import ME1 save
it's really easy and you wont miss it.
So confused right now, got two different answers. Also, does the Mass Effect 2 Deluxe edition on Steam come with any of the good DLC? It doesn't look like it, but wandering if anyone has bought it.
Edit: so its a simple option, but I need an importing tool? Sorry for all the questions.
The importing tool comes with the game. Don't worry about it, you just choose to import your save when you start a new game. Like Dox said, you can't miss it.
Edit: And the deluxe edition doesn't come with any of the DLC, just a few bonus weapons and armor.
I'm looking forward to seeing the trailers for ME3 mainly because I missed the build up to the other 2 games. I only got the first one when 2 came out so most of these are new to me.
Those new interviews gameinformer put up are pretty great, I really cannot wait for this to come out.
I'm in the same boat. Just recently picked up ME1 and 2 on a whim after playing Dragon Age: Origins.
Really glad I did...awesome games, cant wait for 3.
That "How Mass Effect began" interview takes me back.
I remember the first article I ever read about Mass Effect, all the way back in 05. It was a lot different then, for example, the Spectres were a human organization, The Citadel, was called The Oculon, and was designed much differently, and your first mission was to root out a human general gone mad.
The first I remember of Mass Effect was when they put this incredibly bare bones site up online that had literally a paragraph of text and a thumbnail of a Volus. But by God it was the best thing ever.
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Pressley and Adams were normal crew, and they seemed like teens off on a little joyriding.
Well Adams was psyched to have a Quarian on board. Remember how shocked and fascinated he was with Tali's engineering skills? Pressley always had the deck. He was hardcore military. So much so he was the only dude Shepard trusted to leave in command while he was off committing Geth genocide.
Pressley and Adams were normal crew, and they seemed like teens off on a little joyriding.
Well Adams was psyched to have a Quarian on board. Remember how shocked and fascinated he was with Tali's engineering skills? Pressley always had the deck. He was hardcore military. So much so he was the only dude Shepard trusted to leave in command while he was off committing Geth genocide.
every single time I left the ship and the computer said "XO Pressly has the deck"
I expected him to commit mutiny and fly off with my ship
I was both disappointed and relieved when it didn't happen
My "canon" Shep always goes back to protect the bomb, because it seems a lot more important than whatever the AA tower guy is doing, vague assurances that "this bomb will go off no matter what" notwithstanding.
I honestly don't even know if it's possible to choose the other option. I've always protected the bomb.
So, your plan is to turn back, go to the person protesting to leave them, ignore the people you JUST LEFT TO RESCUE, assume the bomb can be magically set to not explode within, oh, a minute oh so, and then leave Captain Kirrahe to die.
Every time.
Machiavellian.
What? No. My plan is to do the job I came here to do. Bomb's in trouble? Forget that, this place needs to explode.
Kirrahe's a big boy, he can take care of himself (and does, even if he's a bit of cloaca)
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Pressley and Adams were normal crew, and they seemed like teens off on a little joyriding.
Well Adams was psyched to have a Quarian on board. Remember how shocked and fascinated he was with Tali's engineering skills? Pressley always had the deck. He was hardcore military. So much so he was the only dude Shepard trusted to leave in command while he was off committing Geth genocide.
every single time I left the ship and the computer said "XO Pressly has the deck"
I expected him to commit mutiny and fly off with my ship
I was both disappointed and relieved when it didn't happen
Finding his datapad in ME2 was tearful. He ALWAYS had the deck. "So uh, you don't like aliens Pressley?" "If you think they need to be here commander, I'm cool with it."
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Pressley and Adams were normal crew, and they seemed like teens off on a little joyriding.
Well Adams was psyched to have a Quarian on board. Remember how shocked and fascinated he was with Tali's engineering skills? Pressley always had the deck. He was hardcore military. So much so he was the only dude Shepard trusted to leave in command while he was off committing Geth genocide.
every single time I left the ship and the computer said "XO Pressly has the deck"
I expected him to commit mutiny and fly off with my ship
I was both disappointed and relieved when it didn't happen
Finding his datapad in ME2 was tearful. He ALWAYS had the deck. "So uh, you don't like aliens Pressley?" "If you think they need to be here commander, I'm cool with it."
Yeah.
Good officer. No guff, no personal opinion getting in the way of the job.
Losing Adams for Ken and Gabby felt like a fair trade, even a net gain. Having Pressley replaced by Lawson?
Yeah. That hurt. Thinking of Miranda having the deck is not a pleasant thing.
You talk Saren into being King Hopper. Which he was going to be anyway.
Kind of detracts from the sheer effectiveness of the moment. A lot, I think. It does say something about the futility of trying to resist indoctrination, but at the same time, that in turn diminishes your confrontation of Saren. Regardless of what you say, the outcome is the same.
Well you kind of do talk Saren into killing himself. He makes the choice and pulls the trigger. What happens next is Sovereign basically reanimating his corpse and using it to attack you. At this point Saren does not really exist anymore.
I liked it because it was pretty horrifying how deeply altered and controlled Saren had been and even in death how the Reapers still had a hold over his body
I don't either, especially from people who like Jack. Then again people tend to hate Jacob as well and I thought he was great. So I guess I'm the odd person out.
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Since then, I replayed making opposite choices, including siding with Kaiden.
A few days ago I finished a replay where I recreated my original lost play through, and man...I don't know how I ever put up with her. She better be awesome in ME3.
The worst part is I don't know if I should continue the run in ME2 and stay "faithful" or not.
Oh, and talking Saren to death? Awesome.
I usually save Ashley just coz'
I remember the first article I ever read about Mass Effect, all the way back in 05. It was a lot different then, for example, the Spectres were a human organization, The Citadel, was called The Oculon, and was designed much differently, and your first mission was to root out a human general gone mad.
Besides, the salarians are on the AA Tower too.
not really, the geth might disable it if your not there or kill whoever was guarding it before they got a chance to set it off, thats always mine reasoning.
If the geth can hack the thing or whatever, the plan is kind of fucked from the start, isn't it?
I honestly don't even know if it's possible to choose the other option. I've always protected the bomb.
Except you don't.
You talk Saren into being King Hopper. Which he was going to be anyway.
Kind of detracts from the sheer effectiveness of the moment. A lot, I think. It does say something about the futility of trying to resist indoctrination, but at the same time, that in turn diminishes your confrontation of Saren. Regardless of what you say, the outcome is the same.
So, your plan is to turn back, go to the person protesting to leave them, ignore the people you JUST LEFT TO RESCUE, assume the bomb can be magically set to not explode within, oh, a minute oh so, and then leave Captain Kirrahe to die.
Every time.
Machiavellian.
Why I fear the ocean.
and Kaiden gets a special cut-scene if you left him with the bomb to die.
Also Kirahee appears on your ship even if you don't go to the tower.
But the deciding factor for me is that Man-Shep and Kaiden don't have a borderline homosexual conversation in front of everyone after you save him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCJVxADnrwc
You're forgetting the best part, Saren eats a SHEPARD PUNCH right in the face.
Edit: I don't think those ME1 glitches are EVER going to get old.
It might have helped if the Normandy left more than one guy to cover the bomb tech.
There's at least, like, four of those marines on the Bridge alone! Is morale so low that we need a full security detail 24/7 to prevent a mutiny or something?
Edit: Speaking of morale, I kind of wonder how the Normandy's crew felt about getting dragged off to Ilos in violation of their orders. You never really talk to an ordinary crewman, and I don't remember Shepard even notifying them that he's totally stealing their ship and making them all liable for court martial.
I talked myself into only having one boss fight, not two, which is helpful. Also, you give Saren the choice of trying to stop it, even if it is futile.
So, I beat the game finally, and go through the credits, and am not given the option to save. I thought you had to wait until the end for it? Or is it the save they do right before the final conversation with the council/Udina? Just wondering for Mass Effect 2. Also, to upload my old save, is it just a simple option in the begining screen?
As long as the credits have started you are safe.
When you go into ME2 you go new game, import ME1 save
it's really easy and you wont miss it.
No, you have to use a launcher tool to import.
Why I fear the ocean.
Again, the AA tower thing is neat. Kirrahe pretty much flat-out tells you that once the bomb is armed, it's going to be all but impossible to disarm it, so there's no reason to go back and save Whiny McBiotic, and those Salarians really stuck their necks out for me, so I should repay them by coming to their rescue.
Even LESS reason to be a bitch on Horizon though, Ash. WTF?
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He'd be liable; not them. In a situation like that, they'd get off with a "we were following our CO's orders" defense and that'd be that.
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So confused right now, got two different answers. Also, does the Mass Effect 2 Deluxe edition on Steam come with any of the good DLC? It doesn't look like it, but wandering if anyone has bought it.
Edit: so its a simple option, but I need an importing tool? Sorry for all the questions.
The importing tool comes with the game. Don't worry about it, you just choose to import your save when you start a new game. Like Dox said, you can't miss it.
Edit: And the deluxe edition doesn't come with any of the DLC, just a few bonus weapons and armor.
I'm in the same boat. Just recently picked up ME1 and 2 on a whim after playing Dragon Age: Origins.
Really glad I did...awesome games, cant wait for 3.
The first I remember of Mass Effect was when they put this incredibly bare bones site up online that had literally a paragraph of text and a thumbnail of a Volus. But by God it was the best thing ever.
Well Adams was psyched to have a Quarian on board. Remember how shocked and fascinated he was with Tali's engineering skills? Pressley always had the deck. He was hardcore military. So much so he was the only dude Shepard trusted to leave in command while he was off committing Geth genocide.
every single time I left the ship and the computer said "XO Pressly has the deck"
I expected him to commit mutiny and fly off with my ship
What? No. My plan is to do the job I came here to do. Bomb's in trouble? Forget that, this place needs to explode.
Kirrahe's a big boy, he can take care of himself (and does, even if he's a bit of cloaca)
Finding his datapad in ME2 was tearful. He ALWAYS had the deck. "So uh, you don't like aliens Pressley?" "If you think they need to be here commander, I'm cool with it."
Yeah.
Good officer. No guff, no personal opinion getting in the way of the job.
Losing Adams for Ken and Gabby felt like a fair trade, even a net gain. Having Pressley replaced by Lawson?
Yeah. That hurt. Thinking of Miranda having the deck is not a pleasant thing.
Why I fear the ocean.
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Well you kind of do talk Saren into killing himself. He makes the choice and pulls the trigger. What happens next is Sovereign basically reanimating his corpse and using it to attack you. At this point Saren does not really exist anymore.
I liked it because it was pretty horrifying how deeply altered and controlled Saren had been and even in death how the Reapers still had a hold over his body
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
I don't either, especially from people who like Jack. Then again people tend to hate Jacob as well and I thought he was great. So I guess I'm the odd person out.
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