I may be too concerned with results--and yes, it does speak to the futility of resisting indoctrination. I imagine it basically played out like a Giantbomb Podcast Skit: "NO! NO! YOU CAN'T NOT HAVE A LAST BOSS BATTLE! THIS IS AN EPIC SPACE ADVENTURE, YOU HAVE TO FIGHT YOUR NEMESIS AT THE END."
It took a moment that could have been emotionally powerful and sucked away almost all of that power because, in the end, it only has a practical result (taking away the less annoying of two consecutive boss battles). Saren was going to die anyway, and he was going to become King Hopper anyway.
I think its mostly that the 'Revive Shepherd' project was completely under her jurisdiction... and resulted in the deaths of dozens of Cerberus Employees and a loss of the base. She's also the Illusive Man's top agent... who knows next to nil about what actually goes on inside of Cerberus judging by her reactions to all their fuckups. Then of course there's the fact she only gives terrible advice on the suicide mission, literally stole a baby and her tragic backstory boils down to "Life is hard because I'm too perfect" and I can easily see why people hate her.
Personally I don't really care one way or another, but I never use her outside of her loyalty mission if I can help it. I just don't think she's very interesting.
I dislike Miranda, but that mostly has to do with her constant waving of her ass and tits in your face, while not being that attractive. It's basically the annoyance of mis-aimed oversexuality, I guess.
Plus, shit has shitty judgment at inopportune times. "Technically, any biotic could do it."
"Yeah, well, technically anyone could stick two sacks over their ass under their jumpsuit and wave them at everyone. That doesn't mean it's a good idea."
the lazarus project going down in flames wasn't her fault
that was the shadow broker
he's not exactly some schmuck or anything
besides, it's not like shepard woke up as a crazed monster and the whole project fell apart because cerberus once again was playing god without understanding what they were dealing with
the lazarus project going down in flames wasn't her fault
that was the shadow broker
he's not exactly some schmuck or anything
besides, it's not like shepard woke up as a crazed monster and the whole project fell apart because cerberus once again was playing god without understanding what they were dealing with
they played god successfully
And yet, no matter what in ME3 Shepard is hostile to Cerberus again!
They brought back their greatest enemy from the dead and gave him billions of dollars worth of allies and equipment!
the lazarus project going down in flames wasn't her fault
that was the shadow broker
he's not exactly some schmuck or anything
besides, it's not like shepard woke up as a crazed monster and the whole project fell apart because cerberus once again was playing god without understanding what they were dealing with
they played god successfully
And yet, no matter what in ME3 Shepard is hostile to Cerberus again!
They brought back their greatest enemy from the dead and gave him billions of dollars worth of allies and equipment!
That is not something a sane organization does.
I'm going to wait until the game is actually close to out before worrying about that
I hope when I shut down ashley for Miranda there's a line about the booty.
Shep: See... I thought I was going to die, so I boned camel toe mcbubblebutt over there...
Ash: Well... I still love you we can work through this
Shep: But...Dat Ass. Peace! Btw you survived Virmire purely by accident.
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My genes Shepard. Why won't you pay more attention to my horribly contrived situation with my genes. MY GENESSSSSSS LISTEN TO ME GEEENNENENEESSNSNS
bitch won't shut the fuck up
Yeah, I don't dislike her but, along with Jacob, she is the least interesting. Your daddy issues? Who cares woman, I was brought back to life with more cybernetics that f'ing Darth Vader. You should know this because YOU WERE THERE. I'm also disappointed that Jacob was so poorly received. I mean, yeah I never really used him (he was basically a crappy version of Grunt w/o assault rifles or Krogan charge) but at least he was well adjusted and professional. I wouldn't mind him being in the game as a crew member if not a squad mate.
Do we know how many companions we'll have in ME3 yet? I know we get Garrus and Kaiden/Ashley again, and a few (3?) new characters and not everyone from 2 is a party member; but have they actually ballparked a number yet?
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I doubt it was even that...
Moreso when you've been on a mission where people are generally competent, it makes you rethink your stake in Cerberus.
Do we know how many companions we'll have in ME3 yet? I know we get Garrus and Kaiden/Ashley again, and a few (3?) new characters and not everyone from 2 is a party member; but have they actually ballparked a number yet?
nope and we probably wont know till release.
We'll definitely be having part time companions like Liara in LOTSB though
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My genes Shepard. Why won't you pay more attention to my horribly contrived situation with my genes. MY GENESSSSSSS LISTEN TO ME GEEENNENENEESSNSNS
bitch won't shut the fuck up
That actually makes her sound like a MGS character.
It's worse because you have someone else who's genetically perfect on the ship, and he only whines about unearned gifts once or twice, spending the majority of his time being fun to be around.
Miranda, look at Grunt. He's a week old, and he's demonstrating more emotional maturity on the whole genetically perfect bit.
Guys, I just bought the 61st issue of the swedish video-gaming magazine LEVEL today, and they had ME3 as their main article.
(the upper text says, "Exclusive visit to Bioware" and the lower says, "10 pages about the big finale")
(for the record, this cover image came from LOADING.se, a site run by the staff of LEVEL)
I thought I'd transcript the most interesting stuff for you (unfortunately it is impossible for me to scan the images, so I'll have to describe them until someone else can put them up - and not here, anyway):
Basically the writer of the article actually got to meet the team face-to-face in Edmonton and saw (and heard) some very interesting stuff. Most of the initial info is just stuff *we've* already heard. They have the good old picture of Ashley, with a caption that clearly states that Shepard has split with Cerberus and that this means s/he has a chance to get back with Ashley/Kaidan and maybe reignite the romance from ME1. Nothing overtly new.
The picture of Shepard with an armored Kaidan to Shepard's right (the reader's left) and Liara on the opposite side is also in the article. The caption states that every single squaddie who survived ME2 will be back. It does not say if they're going to be playable or even permanent squaddies (aside from the Fantastic 4 that we already know of).
The article also have the picture of the refurbished SR2's interior. The caption says that parts of the Cerberus crew will actually leave the ship, and that it will feel quite empty early in the game.
Casey Hudson goes on about the fact that Shepard won't play the role of a general, but that s/he will affect the outcome of the war through inspiring other through his/her actions. Casey also says one of the main inspirations for Shepard was Jimmy Doolittle, a WW2 fighter pilot who epically owned a lot of his enemies and became a big inspiration for other soldiers, and that they're playing that kind of angle with Shep in ME3.
The pictures of the rachni husk and the batarian husk is also in. The rachni is erroneously described as a "collector" in the picture caption.
In a text segment the article writer lets us know that Derek Watts, the art director, accidentally spoiled him with a plot twist of "Luke I am your father"-calibre. Fortunately the article writer decided to keep it for himself. Fun stuff to look forward to, in other words.
Another text segment describes... and boy, this is a big one for turian-lovers such as myself... that Palaven has been rendered completely inoperable as a military stronghold, and that the turians of Palaven (either militarily or as a whole) have been forced to evacuate to a nearby moon that apparently is very barren, to really accentuate the turians status as hardened survivors.
On the other page is a concept picture of the moon in question, with Palaven's dark side in the distance. Fires can clearly be seen on the planet's surface in the dark. Just below it is another picture which I can only assume is Palaven itself. Next to these two is a larger picture of a number of reapers attacking what seems to be a moon for some big, terrestrial planet with cloud formations. It may be Palaven again, i'm not sure.
The third picture has a caption in which the writer states that BioWare has some sort of plan on how to fight (in-game) the Reapers on their own scale, but that they want to keep it a secret other than that it will be "grand".
On the same page is a long description of the reinforcement of RPG-elements, in which Casey states that while they will satisfy the RPG-demand that most fans felt was lacking in ME2, that does not mean they will trim down on the shooter elements. He also says we will have more stuff to buy in the shops, and more stuff to do in the various menus.
There's a picture of Illium and a caption that states we will get to revisit the planet. Below that picture is a smaller picture of the North American continent burning (the ENTIRE continent, for emphasis), meaning the Reaper invasion ISN'T just restricted to Europe like I originally thought.
In the next segment, the article writer is introduced to Corey Gaspur, one of the game designers. Gaspur goes into detail on the new enemies, trying to emphasize their desire to create a greater variety of enemies, especially what he calls "reaper-zombies". Apparently these reaper zombies can have some of their body parts blown off. He also uses the batarian husk as an example of how different areas on the body can affect combat. For example, shooting the hand-cannon will disable his range attack, shooting his claw will prevent him from meleeing you, or you can just ignore both and go for the kill by shooting the more durable torso. This system is apparently going to be applied to more than just this type of enemy.
Casey explains that they are really going for a greater enemy variety, and that they will have cannibalizing husks, Cerberus mechs that can be blown apart in two pieces and new types of husks which will, and i quote, "be to the old [husk]version what 28 days later was to the Night of the Living Dead".
In the next segment they describe the salarian homeworld as a very damp and tropical place, comparing their architecture to the hanging gardens of Babylon. The article writer gets to play a combat sequence in an area by a waterfall, fighting Cerberus soldiers. The gameplay is positively compared to Gears of War, with emphasis on more fluid and faster combat. Casey reiterates that they are trying to make the game more difficult by making the enemies smarter and more tactical. "Normal is the new Veteran."
Next on they meet Parrish Ley, the lead cinematic director. This part isn't very interesting, they just talk about how they are improving the cinematic feel and so forth. Parrish shows the Tresher vs Reaper segment to the article writer, and they indicate that the krogan convoy in which Shepard is situated is supposed to distract the reaper so that turian ships can get clear shots at it.
On the next page is a picture of Anderson in a blue cap, with an ear-phone-thingy dressed in light combat armor with an assault rifle in hand. The caption suggests that he will have a much more combat-oriented role, but it does not say if he will be a squadmember in any capacity. My educated guess is that he will be a temporary squaddie.
The rest of the article is just a couple of quotes that describes BioWares feel of its grand scope, and how excited they are to finish the big project they started 10 years ago, and how well they feel the trilogy-concept have been implemented, emphasizing that the series is the first to have player decisions carry over for three games.
Well like I said in the beginning of the post I can't scan the images, so you'll have to take my (weak) word for it until someone can actually confirm it.
If this has already been posted, just shoot me. I did an extensive research and came up with nothing, so here it is.
EDIT: One thing I forgot to mention: they say that the factions of the galaxy are on the verge of civil war and is that we might possibly have to choose between them in ME3, such as the quarians and geth, citing Kaidan and Ashley as an example but on a galactic scale. Gulp.
Do we know how many companions we'll have in ME3 yet? I know we get Garrus and Kaiden/Ashley again, and a few (3?) new characters and not everyone from 2 is a party member; but have they actually ballparked a number yet?
I would expect every squadmate who survived ME2 to appear in ME3 as a potential team member at one point or another. Some may be along for the ride for the entire game, while others will be mission-dependent. The only exception might be Thane, if enough time has passed for his disease to have run its course.
Well, we know Legion appears and says something about the creators! Wooo
I am not looking forward to making a decision between the Geth and the Quarians.
Or between Mordin and Wrex.
Ashley vs. Kaiden was easy, why do you now make me choose between things that I love?
Easiest decision ever, especially after doing Legion's loyalty quest.
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Shepard was Jimmy Doolittle, a WW2 fighter pilot who epically owned a lot of his enemies and became a big inspiration for other soldiers, and that they're playing that kind of angle with Shep in ME3.
Jimmy Doolittle was a bomber and fighter pilot who was a Lieutenant Colonel when he led the Doolittle Raid on Tokyo in January, 1942. For this he was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor. By the end of the war he had been promoted to Lieutenant General and was commanding the 8th Air Force in NW Europe.
(note that these were the days of the American air force being part of the Army and not yet a seperate branch of the military)
Shepard was Jimmy Doolittle, a WW2 fighter pilot who epically owned a lot of his enemies and became a big inspiration for other soldiers, and that they're playing that kind of angle with Shep in ME3.
Jimmy Doolittle was a bomber and fighter pilot who was a Lieutenant Colonel when he led the Doolittle Raid on Tokyo in January, 1942. For this he was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor. By the end of the war he had been promoted to Lieutenant General and was commanding the 8th Air Force in NW Europe.
(note that these were the days of the American air force being part of the Army and not yet a seperate branch of the military)
I think it's an apt comparison
Except for the epically owned bit :x
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Doolittle was quite a man, one of those people whose biography makes your eyes bug out when you read it. Hard to believe that one man did all of those things.
Shepard was Jimmy Doolittle, a WW2 fighter pilot who epically owned a lot of his enemies and became a big inspiration for other soldiers, and that they're playing that kind of angle with Shep in ME3.
Jimmy Doolittle was a bomber and fighter pilot who was a Lieutenant Colonel when he led the Doolittle Raid on Tokyo in January, 1942. For this he was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor. By the end of the war he had been promoted to Lieutenant General and was commanding the 8th Air Force in NW Europe.
(note that these were the days of the American air force being part of the Army and not yet a seperate branch of the military)
So Shepard is getting a long-overdue promotion from the alliance? I'd like a ceremony, please and thanks.
and I would like my crew to be invited.
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edited April 2011
Hard to have a medal ceremony when your homeworld is burning.
That being said...there's always time for a night out at the Flux.
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It took a moment that could have been emotionally powerful and sucked away almost all of that power because, in the end, it only has a practical result (taking away the less annoying of two consecutive boss battles). Saren was going to die anyway, and he was going to become King Hopper anyway.
YMMV, of course. I was just very disappointed.
I think its mostly that the 'Revive Shepherd' project was completely under her jurisdiction... and resulted in the deaths of dozens of Cerberus Employees and a loss of the base. She's also the Illusive Man's top agent... who knows next to nil about what actually goes on inside of Cerberus judging by her reactions to all their fuckups. Then of course there's the fact she only gives terrible advice on the suicide mission, literally stole a baby and her tragic backstory boils down to "Life is hard because I'm too perfect" and I can easily see why people hate her.
Personally I don't really care one way or another, but I never use her outside of her loyalty mission if I can help it. I just don't think she's very interesting.
Plus, shit has shitty judgment at inopportune times. "Technically, any biotic could do it."
"Yeah, well, technically anyone could stick two sacks over their ass under their jumpsuit and wave them at everyone. That doesn't mean it's a good idea."
Some people might find that endearing though.
bitch won't shut the fuck up
the lazarus project going down in flames wasn't her fault
he's not exactly some schmuck or anything
besides, it's not like shepard woke up as a crazed monster and the whole project fell apart because cerberus once again was playing god without understanding what they were dealing with
they played god successfully
Yeah, I forgot to mention that.
That actually makes her sound like a MGS character.
They brought back their greatest enemy from the dead and gave him billions of dollars worth of allies and equipment!
That is not something a sane organization does.
Fixed.
I thought we agreed on the fact that Cerberus are basically drunk clowns and the galaxy is their circus
Shep: See... I thought I was going to die, so I boned camel toe mcbubblebutt over there...
Ash: Well... I still love you we can work through this
Shep: But...Dat Ass. Peace! Btw you survived Virmire purely by accident.
That's right, ManShep negotiated Miranda away from her dream job using only his cybernetic zombie penis.
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She'll do that anyway, at least if she's loyal
Yeah, I don't dislike her but, along with Jacob, she is the least interesting. Your daddy issues? Who cares woman, I was brought back to life with more cybernetics that f'ing Darth Vader. You should know this because YOU WERE THERE. I'm also disappointed that Jacob was so poorly received. I mean, yeah I never really used him (he was basically a crappy version of Grunt w/o assault rifles or Krogan charge) but at least he was well adjusted and professional. I wouldn't mind him being in the game as a crew member if not a squad mate.
"The Commander is ashore, XO Jacob has the deck."
She does that even if you're a female and didn't romance her. Probably only have to do her loyalty mission.
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Moreso when you've been on a mission where people are generally competent, it makes you rethink your stake in Cerberus.
nope and we probably wont know till release.
We'll definitely be having part time companions like Liara in LOTSB though
It's worse because you have someone else who's genetically perfect on the ship, and he only whines about unearned gifts once or twice, spending the majority of his time being fun to be around.
Miranda, look at Grunt. He's a week old, and he's demonstrating more emotional maturity on the whole genetically perfect bit.
Take a hint.
Why I fear the ocean.
Some spoilers obviously
edit: I got that from the 'creating legion's voice' thingy, not the above article, which is sweet
I am not looking forward to making a decision between the Geth and the Quarians.
Or between Mordin and Wrex.
Ashley vs. Kaiden was easy, why do you now make me choose between things that I love?
Feel free to stick around on the Normandy though!
Then I will punch a reaper in the face and turn myself into galactic god emperor
Then I'm just going to keep pushing people off cliffs until they come back to life.
I'm probably going to be holding onto the data in my ME3 prep game.
Easiest decision ever, especially after doing Legion's loyalty quest.
Jimmy Doolittle was a bomber and fighter pilot who was a Lieutenant Colonel when he led the Doolittle Raid on Tokyo in January, 1942. For this he was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor. By the end of the war he had been promoted to Lieutenant General and was commanding the 8th Air Force in NW Europe.
(note that these were the days of the American air force being part of the Army and not yet a seperate branch of the military)
Maybe the entire game will end up being a big bromance between them.
And in the end they will solve the whole genophage problem by hugging it out.
I think it's an apt comparison
Except for the epically owned bit :x
So Shepard is getting a long-overdue promotion from the alliance? I'd like a ceremony, please and thanks.
and I would like my crew to be invited.
That being said...there's always time for a night out at the Flux.