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[WOW] [CHAT] thread. 4.2 on the PTR, time to chuck woodland animals.

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  • Jelly JigglerJelly Jiggler Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    Halfmex wrote: »
    Okay, wow. This is definitely my new favorite thing from 4.2:
    Flintlocke's Woodchucker
    Requires Level 80
    Item Level 85
    Use: Attaches a permanent device to a bow or gun that sometimes launches a rabid critter, dealing additional damage to the target and increasing your Agility by 300 for 10 sec.

    Attaching this scope to a ranged weapon causes it to become soulbound.
    "'slike a wee angry bullet wit' teeth, son."
    Sell Price: 2 50

    Damn you hunters! Where is my throwing weapon equivalent!?! I want to chuck rabid animals at Ragnaros!
    MY GOD!!! I need this right now.

    Jelly Jiggler on
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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2011
    That sounds like something I'm gonna make bank off of for engineering.

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  • IshtaarIshtaar Fun is underrated. Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Well, considering how ridonculous the Druid 4set is, I'm pretty sure these are going to be modified before going live.

    As it is, Blizzard's refusal to budge on Lightwell reminds me of some of the Development dialogues from Magic: The Gathering (Mark Rosewater, specifically) wherein the lead developer there discusses how sometimes, even if you really like a mechanic, think its flavorful, good for the game, and enjoyable--that doesn't matter if the playerbase just refuses to play with it.

    Our raid group has done a fairly decent job of learning to use the Lightwell and eat their Heathstones, but I'm not to sure what to think about a "Cauterizing Flame" modeled Lightwell. Especially in an entire instance filled with fire. "Hey click on the fire for health! No not that fire, that's the hurty fire! Oh F it just wipe."

    So the Shadow 2 piece is a cooldown on Shadowfiend... 2 & 2 piece maybe?

    Ishtaar on
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  • PoketpixiePoketpixie Siege Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Halfmex wrote: »
    Okay, wow. This is definitely my new favorite thing from 4.2:
    Flintlocke's Woodchucker
    Requires Level 80
    Item Level 85
    Use: Attaches a permanent device to a bow or gun that sometimes launches a rabid critter, dealing additional damage to the target and increasing your Agility by 300 for 10 sec.

    Attaching this scope to a ranged weapon causes it to become soulbound.
    "'s'like a wee angry bullet wit' teeth, son."
    Sell Price: 2 50

    Nesingwary approved. D.H.E.T.A. reportedly up in arms.

    Poketpixie on
  • ShawnaseeShawnasee Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Poketpixie wrote: »
    Halfmex wrote: »
    Okay, wow. This is definitely my new favorite thing from 4.2:
    Flintlocke's Woodchucker
    Requires Level 80
    Item Level 85
    Use: Attaches a permanent device to a bow or gun that sometimes launches a rabid critter, dealing additional damage to the target and increasing your Agility by 300 for 10 sec.

    Attaching this scope to a ranged weapon causes it to become soulbound.
    "'s'like a wee angry bullet wit' teeth, son."
    Sell Price: 2 50

    Nesingwary approved. D.H.E.T.A. reportedly up in arms.

    hahaha

    Shawnasee on
  • NobodyNobody Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Shawnasee wrote: »
    Poketpixie wrote: »
    Halfmex wrote: »
    Okay, wow. This is definitely my new favorite thing from 4.2:
    Flintlocke's Woodchucker
    Requires Level 80
    Item Level 85
    Use: Attaches a permanent device to a bow or gun that sometimes launches a rabid critter, dealing additional damage to the target and increasing your Agility by 300 for 10 sec.

    Attaching this scope to a ranged weapon causes it to become soulbound.
    "'s'like a wee angry bullet wit' teeth, son."
    Sell Price: 2 50

    Nesingwary approved. D.H.E.T.A. reportedly up in arms.

    hahaha

    I wonder if that crazy dryad in Hyjal that does all the baby talk gives this to you >.>

    Nobody on
  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Did they hotfix Jindo or something? Seems like he was taking forever to get into p2 today. Though, it could have been the elemental shaman we had with us rocking 5k dps.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Ishtaar wrote: »
    Oh, the datamined Priest 4 piece is hilarious: You have a chance when you cast a helpful spell to summon a Cauterizing Flame. Friendly raid and party members can use the Cauterizing Flame to be instantly healed for 4625 to 5375. Lasts for 45 sec sec or 10 charges. After using the Cauterizing Flame, players cannot benefit from it again for 10 sec.

    It's already being called "Firewell" on the Priest forums.
    Sweet, a new tiny, obscured thing to never click!

    forty on
    Officially the unluckiest CCG player ever.
  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Did they hotfix Jindo or something? Seems like he was taking forever to get into p2 today. Though, it could have been the elemental shaman we had with us rocking 5k dps.

    Also I am not sure if we just have priests that arent trying to be "funny" or whatever but we rarely have issues with lightwell. It actually helps us out tremendously.... again I gues its just user error.

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  • AriviaArivia I Like A Challenge Earth-1Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    forty wrote: »
    Ishtaar wrote: »
    Oh, the datamined Priest 4 piece is hilarious: You have a chance when you cast a helpful spell to summon a Cauterizing Flame. Friendly raid and party members can use the Cauterizing Flame to be instantly healed for 4625 to 5375. Lasts for 45 sec sec or 10 charges. After using the Cauterizing Flame, players cannot benefit from it again for 10 sec.

    It's already being called "Firewell" on the Priest forums.
    Sweet, a new tiny, obscured thing to never click!

    Also, it's likely going to be red-orange in a very red-orange raiding tier. Should be fun!

    Arivia on
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  • DrHookensteinDrHookenstein Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Jubal77 wrote: »
    Did they hotfix Jindo or something? Seems like he was taking forever to get into p2 today. Though, it could have been the elemental shaman we had with us rocking 5k dps.

    Also I am not sure if we just have priests that arent trying to be "funny" or whatever but we rarely have issues with lightwell. It actually helps us out tremendously.... again I gues its just user error.

    Sufficient quantities of user error suggest development (not design; development) error.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Are HealthStones bad design then?

    Cause I can tell you TONS and TONS of people never use those either.

    Lightwell is pretty damn good the way it is now. It's just that, like any other ability that depends on the other person to do something with it, some people just don't use it.

    shryke on
  • KreutzKreutz Blackwater Park, IARegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    The only time I have ever regularly used healthstones was when I was a raiding tank. Even then, it seemed like half the time I would click the button only to realize our warlock wasn't in the raid and I was wasting a GCD on an error message.

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  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    shryke wrote: »
    Are HealthStones bad design then?

    Cause I can tell you TONS and TONS of people never use those either.

    Lightwell is pretty damn good the way it is now. It's just that, like any other ability that depends on the other person to do something with it, some people just don't use it.

    There is always an inherent issue with forgetting to use things you need to use manually. You could argue the game doesn't sufficiently teach players to use these things or whatever, but that's besides the point.

    It's an entirely different matter when a player *wants* to use one of these items and is obstructed by things like hitboxes and camera angles (or even just trying to *find* the thing). I still call that a design issue. One it is probably too late to change without reworking the ability *entirely*, but still a design issue.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    Are HealthStones bad design then?

    Cause I can tell you TONS and TONS of people never use those either.

    Lightwell is pretty damn good the way it is now. It's just that, like any other ability that depends on the other person to do something with it, some people just don't use it.

    There is always an inherent issue with forgetting to use things you need to use manually. You could argue the game doesn't sufficiently teach players to use these things or whatever, but that's besides the point.

    It's an entirely different matter when a player *wants* to use one of these items and is obstructed by things like hitboxes and camera angles. I still call that a design issue. One it is probably too late to change without reworking the ability *entirely*, but still a design issue.

    That's an inherent issue to the game in general though.

    Try tanking something like Heroic Halfus and switching which mobs you are tanking and the like. Lightwells are easy compared to stuff like that. (Hence why I have targeting macros)

    shryke on
  • RanlinRanlin Oh gosh Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Did they hotfix Jindo or something? Seems like he was taking forever to get into p2 today. Though, it could have been the elemental shaman we had with us rocking 5k dps.

    Not necessarily the problem in this case, but any caster's dps can be completely screwed if the tank just lets jin'do sit inside the AMZ bubbles.

    Ranlin on
  • belligerentbelligerent Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    If the lightwell is under the boss, then it's not being placed correctly.

    This is mostly about pushing off role responsibility to other roles. DPSers like to dps, since that's how their performance is judged. The healer's job is to keep people alive, and making dps click things is just "wrong."

    hyperbole aside, DPS already have a lot to think about: threat management, avoiding damage, correctly dpsing during a phase... adding in health management is sometimes too much. They made clicking the lightwell easy, but speaking as someone who regularly plays all 3 roles, it's hard to focus on so much at once. If I'm not healing, I don't always look at my health bar.

    So while lightwell is nice, and I like using it, I'm not sad when my healer is a druid paly or shaman. It's just one less thing I have to focus on.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Since when has threat management been an issue?

    Styrofoam Sammich on
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  • NobodyNobody Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Usually in the first several seconds of the encounter, before vengeance has a chance to stack. But that's what Tricks and Misdirect are for.

    Nobody on
  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Our mage pulled aggro on H Maloriak sometime in the first 30 seconds or so 2 or 3 times last night.

    forty on
    Officially the unluckiest CCG player ever.
  • RizziRizzi Sydney, Australia.Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    My launcher is attempting to download 15Gb. What the heck.

    Rizzi on
  • TylanthusTylanthus Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Ishtaar wrote: »
    Well, considering how ridonculous the Druid 4set is, I'm pretty sure these are going to be modified before going live.

    As it is, Blizzard's refusal to budge on Lightwell reminds me of some of the Development dialogues from Magic: The Gathering (Mark Rosewater, specifically) wherein the lead developer there discusses how sometimes, even if you really like a mechanic, think its flavorful, good for the game, and enjoyable--that doesn't matter if the playerbase just refuses to play with it.

    Our raid group has done a fairly decent job of learning to use the Lightwell and eat their Heathstones, but I'm not to sure what to think about a "Cauterizing Flame" modeled Lightwell. Especially in an entire instance filled with fire. "Hey click on the fire for health! No not that fire, that's the hurty fire! Oh F it just wipe."

    So the Shadow 2 piece is a cooldown on Shadowfiend... 2 & 2 piece maybe?

    I'm hoping Cauterizing Flame turns out to be more like the mage flame orb than another ground clutter. But I 100% agree that it immediately made me contemplate a 2/2 split of the tier pieces.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Nobody wrote: »
    Usually in the first several seconds of the encounter, before vengeance has a chance to stack. But that's what Tricks and Misdirect are for.

    It can still be an issue. DPS, especially well geared ones, do have to watch their threat at the start.

    shryke on
  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Heh the only time I've ever pulled aggro mid fight was on General Vag when I got to drop massive fuck-you starfire crits on him over and over.

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  • PierceNeckPierceNeck Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Oh man, I remember one time back in Kara, I had to do nothing but auto-attack on my Rogue or I'd pull aggro off this one tank. I don't know why though, because other people were able to DPS normally. But seriously, 2 ss's and I'd be passing the tank in threat.

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  • DkarrdeDkarrde Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    PierceNeck wrote: »
    Oh man, I remember one time back in Kara, I had to do nothing but auto-attack on my Rogue or I'd pull aggro off this one tank. I don't know why though, because other people were able to DPS normally. But seriously, 2 ss's and I'd be passing the tank in threat.

    Left your Roguish Fury on.

    Dkarrde on
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  • TurksonTurkson Near the mountains of ColoradoRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Buddies wrote: »
    Dac wrote: »
    I actually kind of like that the set bonuses are really, really ridiculous and not generic.

    Unless you play a Tank. Then you get the most Boring set bonuses ever.


    Might have to switch to an arcane mage.

    Setting people on fire with your shield is boring?

    Turkson on
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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Shooting animals from a bow sounds alright to me.

    Henroid on
  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2011
    Does anyone know a mod that shows your current DPS without logging the entire raid?

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Don't mods that measure that stuff have settings you can play with so that it only shows your data?

    Henroid on
  • OptyOpty Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Yeah, with Recount you can just uncheck anyone but yourself in its options and you're good to go. I assume Skada works the same way.

    Opty on
  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2011
    I don't like recount that much.

    There was a DPS meter mod back in the day, I think it began with a C, that had a "minimized" mode where when you minimized it, it just showed your DPS.

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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2011
    My searches for a self-only dps mod came across this

    http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info18140-ShowMyDPS.html

    I ran it side by side with recount for a few attempts and it's just as accurate. So if anyone else out there is like me and doesn't give a fuck about the rest of the raid, I recommend this mod.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    It's too bad people hate me bringing up RP because some incredibly hilarious shit just went down.

    Henroid on
  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Yay 3/13 now. HMaloriak was a faster kill than HChimmy.

    Jubal77 on
  • Beyond NormalBeyond Normal Lord Phender Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Henroid wrote: »
    It's too bad people hate me bringing up RP because some incredibly hilarious shit just went down.

    Now that we can't have I WANT IT MORE.

    Beyond Normal on
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  • Fig-DFig-D Tustin, CA, USRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I've never hated Henroid's stories, I have friends who played on Moon Guard.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Man I'm having problems deciding on glyphs for my destruction warlock. Mostly in regard to the prime glyphs. Imp, Incinerate, Conflagrate, Immolate, Chaos Bolt, Shadowburn... In my heart of hearts I want to believe the choice of the best 3 isn't THAT much more DPS gain over any other combination (well, except where Shadowburn is concerned).

    Henroid on
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Fig-D wrote: »
    I've never hated Henroid's stories, I have friends who played on Moon Guard.

    Tonight was mostly same-same kinda stuff. Rumors spread temporarily about this dude named Rigsby faction-changing to Horde, which were dispelled when he came into Goldshire with his usual "YIFF YIFF :3" greeting. Also some dude kept rolling into the server with a character named Mexican, and was generally being stereotypical but was mostly ignored.

    And someone is asking for people to join a "college RP" which is a new one on me.

    Edit - Rigsby is pretty much the most recognizable name I've seen here yet. Sometimes I see other names that I think I see night-to-night, and I'm talking about people who actually talk in general. But that motherfucker is always on every night. He also has a macro that displays a dog face in text in /s.

    Henroid on
  • BeezelBeezel There was no agreement little morsel..Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Henroid wrote: »
    Man I'm having problems deciding on glyphs for my destruction warlock. Mostly in regard to the prime glyphs. Imp, Incinerate, Conflagrate, Immolate, Chaos Bolt, Shadowburn... In my heart of hearts I want to believe the choice of the best 3 isn't THAT much more DPS gain over any other combination (well, except where Shadowburn is concerned).

    There's very little wiggle room on prime glyphs as destruction.
    you will be picking Immolate and conflagrate as mandatory because the two are pretty symbiotic. You'll most likely be picking the Imp as your third because you spend so many points buffing him up anyway that not using that glyph would almost be a waste. I treat it less like a pet and more like a really strong DOT that talks sometimes.

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