heeeey!
hotshot finally started smartcasting all of his spears like a non-baddie.
Edit: oh wait, never mind. he just turned off the aiming reticule. lol
why would you buy a void staff. void staff is only worth it if they have like 200 mr
wrong
consider having 40% penetration
going from 200 magic resist to 120 magic resist is a 12% increase in damage
going from 100 magic resist to 60 magic resist is a 12.5% increase in damage
going from 80 magic resist to 48 magic resist is a 12.01% increase in damage
(I used Damage Reduction Percent = 100 * (Effective MR) / (100 + ABS(Effective MR)) for these calculations. Test them yourselves and see.)
You burst for 1000 damage against a zero MR target (0% reduction), you do 1000 damage. Void staff (obviously) does nothing.
You use the same burst against a 300 MR target (75% reduction), you do 250 damage. Void staff brings that to 180 MR (64.3% reduction) for 357 damage. This is 43% more damage than without a Voidstaff.
You use the same burst against a 200 MR target (66% reduction), you do 333 damage. Void staff brings that to 120 MR (54.5% reduction) for 455 damage. This is 37% more damage than without a Voidstaff.
You use the same burst against a 100 MR target (50% reduction), you do 500 damage. Void staff brings that to 60 MR (37.5% reduction) for 625 damage. This is 25% more damage than without a Voidstaff.
You use the same burst against a 50 MR target (33% reduction), you do 666 damage. Void staff brings that to 30 MR (23.1% reduction) for 769 damage. This is 15% more damage than without a Voidstaff.
Voidstaff definitely scales against target MR. You gain 10-12% absolute damage by using a Voidstaff. But remember that going from 88% damage to 100% damage is a much smaller jump than going from 12% damage to 24% damage.
well yeah that's what AP casters do. at least brand's q is dodgeable, unlike annie's or veigar's or leblanc's
Better Range than Trist, Teemo, and Ashe in early game
no. the only champ who brand can outrange of those three is teemo, and he has movefast and can therefore easily dodge both brand's q and w, and can then blinding dart brand in the face
oh also, ashe's w outranges EVERY SINGLE ABILITY that brand has, so yeah
ashe is probably a good hard counter to brand now that I think about it
Spammy stun
at max level his stun is on a 6 second cooldown (4 with max cdr)
also it's dodgeable, so it's in no way "Spammy"
if you're getting killed by his stun it is simply because you are bad at dodging skillshots
again if you want to meet a bullshit stun, say hello to tibbers
High Early game damage
again, that's what AP casters do. that is their thing
Every time I see him I wish I could leave game now. I've yet to win a single game against Brand. He picks a lane and just fucks it up.
he is nowhere near as bad as you're making it out to be. if you want to experience real pain, lane against leblanc. weep as you die 3-4 times BEFORE YOU HIT SIX.
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Our Trynd feeds Amumu and Cass in bottom lane with me to 5 kills. They kill Lux and Trynd before Minions spawn, and apparently it's my fault despite living and taking down Cass.
Trynd continues to feed. We tell him to stop feeding, he tells us to go sod off, and leaves the game, saying he has multiple accounts. Obvious not a guy that plans on coming back.
15 minutes hits of me and Lux solid defending towers as they push hard. I immediately tap surrender at 15. Lux declines. Says we can still win this. We d for another 10 minutes of jack shit happening, just sitting under our towers.
Finally Lux makes a dive and dies. While she's dead I sit back a couple seconds to let them take our tower and make the final push. Of course she blames me, but wtf am I supposed to do.
Obviously Trynd isn't coming back. Either we can stalemate this shit to 45 minutes or I can be in a new game. It's not even a ranked game.
No jungler.
Took mid.
Zoned ashe until hitting 6.
Had Teemo take over mid, proceeded to heavily counterjungle Noct while roaming around to spear harass lanes a bit.
Opponents surrendered at 20 minutes.
Good times.
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Priest, seriously, don't try to reason with pugs. It's not worth the indigestion.
e: It's in your bet interest to /mute all when you begin a match. Do it after "/all gl hf" for bonus points.
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Priest, seriously, don't try to reason with pugs. It's not worth the indigestion.
It's like retardation is communicable over the internet. I'm fine with bads. Honestly. I'm a bad, I know this implicitly. All I ask is that people don't act like god when they're equally bad.
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I play it because the games are typically shorter.
Typically
Anywho. Too frustrated to play. Bedtime.
IT'S A TARP!
Seriously. You're not learning useful techniques. Like bot games. Can be fun, but, are you actually learning anything?
You can train last hitting... but it's completely different when you're avoiding harass. You can train builds... but there are build calculators everywhere, and why not do it in a custom game? etc. etc.
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i've heard and seem to have experienced worse damage as TF against towers while using pick a card, did the change to pure magic damage affect it? it uses up the card but doesn't seem to do NEARLY the destruction it used to cause
i remember having lich bane and zhonya's and hitting towers for 200-300 every autoattack but now i was only doing 120-150? maybe i am thinking of pushing while having creeps instead of no creeps or something
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although it's bullshit and unfun there are people who play this game who believe it's a legit strategy
so
I mean
I don't think they're necessarily wrong to run it
Explain this position to me.
People believe X is legit, so I don't think X is wrong?
no
people believe X is legit, but I don't, but I think it's wrong to condemn them to hellfire or whatever for doing bullshit tactics if they think they're playing the game the way it's meant to be played
basically it's all about intention
do they think "hey this is a legit strategy that i should use to enable victory for my team?"
then yeah I would say they're okay to run the strat
do they think " omg must have win must therefore use any tactic to win fuck sportsmanship bd bd bd erryday i'm gonna annoy the opposing team"
then yeah they douches
i mean
what do you think of split push teleport shen whilst the rest of the team does baron or pushes another lane? I mean, it's a p unstoppable tactic. is it bullshit?
why would you buy a void staff. void staff is only worth it if they have like 200 mr
wrong
consider having 40% penetration
going from 200 magic resist to 120 magic resist is a 12% increase in damage
going from 100 magic resist to 60 magic resist is a 12.5% increase in damage
going from 80 magic resist to 48 magic resist is a 12.01% increase in damage
(I used Damage Reduction Percent = 100 * (Effective MR) / (100 + ABS(Effective MR)) for these calculations. Test them yourselves and see.)
You burst for 1000 damage against a zero MR target (0% reduction), you do 1000 damage. Void staff (obviously) does nothing.
You use the same burst against a 300 MR target (75% reduction), you do 250 damage. Void staff brings that to 180 MR (64.3% reduction) for 357 damage. This is 43% more damage than without a Voidstaff.
You use the same burst against a 200 MR target (66% reduction), you do 333 damage. Void staff brings that to 120 MR (54.5% reduction) for 455 damage. This is 37% more damage than without a Voidstaff.
You use the same burst against a 100 MR target (50% reduction), you do 500 damage. Void staff brings that to 60 MR (37.5% reduction) for 625 damage. This is 25% more damage than without a Voidstaff.
You use the same burst against a 50 MR target (33% reduction), you do 666 damage. Void staff brings that to 30 MR (23.1% reduction) for 769 damage. This is 15% more damage than without a Voidstaff.
Voidstaff definitely scales against target MR. You gain 10-12% absolute damage by using a Voidstaff. But remember that going from 88% damage to 100% damage is a much smaller jump than going from 12% damage to 24% damage.
Excellent point. I would have to still think a lot about when I get Void Staff or not though...12% absolute damage is still pretty darn good. Would probably have to run cost efficiency calculations.to make sure.
push teams try to avoid team fights and just try to kill minons. that's not really the point of the game which is what makes them not fun to play against
although it's bullshit and unfun there are people who play this game who believe it's a legit strategy
so
I mean
I don't think they're necessarily wrong to run it
Explain this position to me.
People believe X is legit, so I don't think X is wrong?
no
people believe X is legit, but I don't, but I think it's wrong to condemn them to hellfire or whatever for doing bullshit tactics if they think they're playing the game the way it's meant to be played
basically it's all about intention
do they think "hey this is a legit strategy that i should use to enable victory for my team?"
then yeah I would say they're okay to run the strat
do they think " omg must have win must therefore use any tactic to win fuck sportsmanship bd bd bd erryday i'm gonna annoy the opposing team"
then yeah they douches
i mean
what do you think of split push teleport shen whilst the rest of the team does baron or pushes another lane? I mean, it's a p unstoppable tactic. is it bullshit?
In general I think your philosophy is silly because if people choose not to think about whether this makes other people not have fun, then they get to do whatever they want with a free pass. I think you have an obligation to think about what you're doing and saying and whether it is appropriate and becoming, even in a videogame, because there are other actual people on the other end of the wires that are affected by the choices you make. Maybe the guy sitting at a base tower trying to stop you from backdooring is snoozing through the only lol game he had fun to play tonight, because that's the way you decided to try to get a 'W' in a column. I think you've agreed with me on a number of occasions that backdooring behind the enemy creeps is wrong. But there are people who think it's a legit strategy. So do you give backdooring a free pass?
Basically I don't like the idea of excusing people because they stuck their fingers in their ears and believed what they wanted to believe.
That said, I think split push teleport shen is a bullshit, douchey thing to do in normal queue. In ranked, it's what the other team gets for not banning shen. I think ranked is a more serious mode of play where the other team has a chance to adapt to your team comp, which makes gimmicky team comps like 5 teleport teams or 5 tank teams less douchey.
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push teams try to avoid team fights and just try to kill minons. that's not really the point of the game which is what makes them not fun to play against
even though i agree with you, i think the real point of the game is to destroy the enemy team's nexus
soooo any strategy that helps do that is imo a "valid" way to interpret playing the game
i mean
it's why team tank can win games, or team squishy, or team AoE,, or gank teams, or roamers, or 1-3-1, or europe lane assignments, etc etc etc
the greatest thing about this game is that team comps (and by extension team tactics) can vary wildly, and many different builds are possible
push teams try to avoid team fights and just try to kill minons. that's not really the point of the game which is what makes them not fun to play against
I disagree, I find positional matches awesome and exciting. Definitely becomes a game of cunning and strategy if it starts to happen, and you get to see the separation between good players and bad players.
In general I think your philosophy is silly because if people choose not to think about whether this makes other people not have fun, then they get to do whatever they want with a free pass. I think you have an obligation to think about what you're doing and saying and whether it is appropriate and becoming, even in a videogame, because there are other actual people on the other end of the wires that are affected by the choices you make. Maybe the guy sitting at a base tower trying to stop you from backdooring is snoozing through the only lol game he had fun to play tonight, because that's the way you decided to try to get a 'W' in a column. I think you've agreed with me on a number of occasions that backdooring behind the enemy creeps is wrong. But there are people who think it's a legit strategy. So do you give backdooring a free pass?
I don't give backdooring a free pass. I just don't instantly think "wow these guys are assholes" for doing it necessarily
I mean if we're rolling a team and the tf suddenly disappears and pops up and has taken three turrets? okay, he's a douche
but if the sivir the entire game has been pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing turrets, going in and out of our jungle and popping up out of nowhere to take out a tower and leave? then yeah, I can respect your play even if i think it's a douchey one to do
In general I think your philosophy is silly because if people choose not to think about whether this makes other people not have fun, then they get to do whatever they want with a free pass. I think you have an obligation to think about what you're doing and saying and whether it is appropriate and becoming, even in a videogame, because there are other actual people on the other end of the wires that are affected by the choices you make. Maybe the guy sitting at a base tower trying to stop you from backdooring is snoozing through the only lol game he had fun to play tonight, because that's the way you decided to try to get a 'W' in a column. I think you've agreed with me on a number of occasions that backdooring behind the enemy creeps is wrong. But there are people who think it's a legit strategy. So do you give backdooring a free pass?
I don't give backdooring a free pass. I just don't instantly think "wow these guys are assholes" for doing it necessarily
I mean if we're rolling a team and the tf suddenly disappears and pops up and has taken three turrets? okay, he's a douche
but if the sivir the entire game has been pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing turrets, going in and out of our jungle and popping up out of nowhere to take out a tower and leave? then yeah, I can respect your play even if i think it's a douchey one to do
I don't understand how you can respect someone for doing a douchey thing. I don't get the difference between not judging someone for doing a douchey thing and giving them a free pass.
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I don't think they realize she is still unfun to play against
You can just use it for an IP boost, or pick up a skin on sale, or maybe make use of some leftover IP.
And yesterday sucked, but it let me get ample amount of study time in, so i mean, w/e
hotshot finally started smartcasting all of his spears like a non-baddie.
Edit: oh wait, never mind. he just turned off the aiming reticule. lol
Seriously, Moakai is crazy in the right hands. They had a Moakai as well. I manhandled him.
Lee Sin tried to solo me late game with all that gear he has vs what i had. I made him run like a girl.
They sent everyone top like 1 or 2 at a time to stop me. I just put a whooping on them.
My tree > Their tree
I had to solo top vs maokai AND lee sin. Dont mess with me!
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shen + nocturne
me and soliloqui tore shit up so much and destroyed that caitlyn so often it was hilarious
it was so money
SO FUCKING MONEY
You burst for 1000 damage against a zero MR target (0% reduction), you do 1000 damage. Void staff (obviously) does nothing.
You use the same burst against a 300 MR target (75% reduction), you do 250 damage. Void staff brings that to 180 MR (64.3% reduction) for 357 damage. This is 43% more damage than without a Voidstaff.
You use the same burst against a 200 MR target (66% reduction), you do 333 damage. Void staff brings that to 120 MR (54.5% reduction) for 455 damage. This is 37% more damage than without a Voidstaff.
You use the same burst against a 100 MR target (50% reduction), you do 500 damage. Void staff brings that to 60 MR (37.5% reduction) for 625 damage. This is 25% more damage than without a Voidstaff.
You use the same burst against a 50 MR target (33% reduction), you do 666 damage. Void staff brings that to 30 MR (23.1% reduction) for 769 damage. This is 15% more damage than without a Voidstaff.
Voidstaff definitely scales against target MR. You gain 10-12% absolute damage by using a Voidstaff. But remember that going from 88% damage to 100% damage is a much smaller jump than going from 12% damage to 24% damage.
Duo laning Vlad/Brand doublestacked WotA is pretty silly.
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Edit: But I will abuse it once I get Brand.
well yeah that's what AP casters do. at least brand's q is dodgeable, unlike annie's or veigar's or leblanc's
no. the only champ who brand can outrange of those three is teemo, and he has movefast and can therefore easily dodge both brand's q and w, and can then blinding dart brand in the face
oh also, ashe's w outranges EVERY SINGLE ABILITY that brand has, so yeah
ashe is probably a good hard counter to brand now that I think about it
at max level his stun is on a 6 second cooldown (4 with max cdr)
also it's dodgeable, so it's in no way "Spammy"
if you're getting killed by his stun it is simply because you are bad at dodging skillshots
again if you want to meet a bullshit stun, say hello to tibbers
again, that's what AP casters do. that is their thing
he is nowhere near as bad as you're making it out to be. if you want to experience real pain, lane against leblanc. weep as you die 3-4 times BEFORE YOU HIT SIX.
yeah those were some good games
yeah
Trynd/Lux/Trist(me) v Amumu/Trynd/Cass
Our Trynd feeds Amumu and Cass in bottom lane with me to 5 kills. They kill Lux and Trynd before Minions spawn, and apparently it's my fault despite living and taking down Cass.
Trynd continues to feed. We tell him to stop feeding, he tells us to go sod off, and leaves the game, saying he has multiple accounts. Obvious not a guy that plans on coming back.
15 minutes hits of me and Lux solid defending towers as they push hard. I immediately tap surrender at 15. Lux declines. Says we can still win this. We d for another 10 minutes of jack shit happening, just sitting under our towers.
Finally Lux makes a dive and dies. While she's dead I sit back a couple seconds to let them take our tower and make the final push. Of course she blames me, but wtf am I supposed to do.
Obviously Trynd isn't coming back. Either we can stalemate this shit to 45 minutes or I can be in a new game. It's not even a ranked game.
Took mid.
Zoned ashe until hitting 6.
Had Teemo take over mid, proceeded to heavily counterjungle Noct while roaming around to spear harass lanes a bit.
Opponents surrendered at 20 minutes.
Good times.
e: It's in your bet interest to /mute all when you begin a match. Do it after "/all gl hf" for bonus points.
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It's like retardation is communicable over the internet. I'm fine with bads. Honestly. I'm a bad, I know this implicitly. All I ask is that people don't act like god when they're equally bad.
I play it because the games are typically shorter.
Typically
Anywho. Too frustrated to play. Bedtime.
IT'S A TARP!
Seriously. You're not learning useful techniques. Like bot games. Can be fun, but, are you actually learning anything?
You can train last hitting... but it's completely different when you're avoiding harass. You can train builds... but there are build calculators everywhere, and why not do it in a custom game? etc. etc.
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look at my tryndamere
i was solo queue too
heehe
Discuss.
What if it's yi, sivir and TF?
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although it's bullshit and unfun there are people who play this game who believe it's a legit strategy
so
I mean
I don't think they're necessarily wrong to run it
although I, personally, think it's a douche move
also backdoor sivir sucks, backdoor yi and tf is where it's at
Explain this position to me.
People believe X is legit, so I don't think X is wrong?
she died a number of times.
I don't think backdoor yi/sivir is viable. It certainly didn't work out for them this game.
i remember having lich bane and zhonya's and hitting towers for 200-300 every autoattack but now i was only doing 120-150? maybe i am thinking of pushing while having creeps instead of no creeps or something
no
people believe X is legit, but I don't, but I think it's wrong to condemn them to hellfire or whatever for doing bullshit tactics if they think they're playing the game the way it's meant to be played
basically it's all about intention
do they think "hey this is a legit strategy that i should use to enable victory for my team?"
then yeah I would say they're okay to run the strat
do they think " omg must have win must therefore use any tactic to win fuck sportsmanship bd bd bd erryday i'm gonna annoy the opposing team"
then yeah they douches
i mean
what do you think of split push teleport shen whilst the rest of the team does baron or pushes another lane? I mean, it's a p unstoppable tactic. is it bullshit?
Excellent point. I would have to still think a lot about when I get Void Staff or not though...12% absolute damage is still pretty darn good. Would probably have to run cost efficiency calculations.to make sure.
In general I think your philosophy is silly because if people choose not to think about whether this makes other people not have fun, then they get to do whatever they want with a free pass. I think you have an obligation to think about what you're doing and saying and whether it is appropriate and becoming, even in a videogame, because there are other actual people on the other end of the wires that are affected by the choices you make. Maybe the guy sitting at a base tower trying to stop you from backdooring is snoozing through the only lol game he had fun to play tonight, because that's the way you decided to try to get a 'W' in a column. I think you've agreed with me on a number of occasions that backdooring behind the enemy creeps is wrong. But there are people who think it's a legit strategy. So do you give backdooring a free pass?
Basically I don't like the idea of excusing people because they stuck their fingers in their ears and believed what they wanted to believe.
That said, I think split push teleport shen is a bullshit, douchey thing to do in normal queue. In ranked, it's what the other team gets for not banning shen. I think ranked is a more serious mode of play where the other team has a chance to adapt to your team comp, which makes gimmicky team comps like 5 teleport teams or 5 tank teams less douchey.
even though i agree with you, i think the real point of the game is to destroy the enemy team's nexus
soooo any strategy that helps do that is imo a "valid" way to interpret playing the game
i mean
it's why team tank can win games, or team squishy, or team AoE,, or gank teams, or roamers, or 1-3-1, or europe lane assignments, etc etc etc
the greatest thing about this game is that team comps (and by extension team tactics) can vary wildly, and many different builds are possible
I disagree, I find positional matches awesome and exciting. Definitely becomes a game of cunning and strategy if it starts to happen, and you get to see the separation between good players and bad players.
Don't have any math to support why I do this, but seems to work for me.
I never see ap champs build Haunting Guise much. Underrated in my book, I love it on Ryze.
I don't give backdooring a free pass. I just don't instantly think "wow these guys are assholes" for doing it necessarily
I mean if we're rolling a team and the tf suddenly disappears and pops up and has taken three turrets? okay, he's a douche
but if the sivir the entire game has been pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing turrets, going in and out of our jungle and popping up out of nowhere to take out a tower and leave? then yeah, I can respect your play even if i think it's a douchey one to do
I don't understand how you can respect someone for doing a douchey thing. I don't get the difference between not judging someone for doing a douchey thing and giving them a free pass.