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Psychological Horror

ReznikReznik Registered User regular
edited April 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
Need some psychological horror as inspiration for a little project. Stuff like Silent Hill (the games - haven't seen the film but from what I hear it's not very good) and Jacob's Ladder (or at least that part that's up on youtube that is clearly the inspiration for Silent Hill). I think Eternal Darkness might also fit?

I'm pretty sure psychological horror is the right term, anyway. 'Smart' horror, basically. No silly jump scares or excessive gore for no reason other than having excessive gore. Just.... disturbing, creepy, scary stuff that plays with your head and makes you uneasy and fills you with a sense of dread in between scares.

Can be games or movies, but if they're games I'd like something that has a good Let's Play of it so I can watch/read along. Gets past the problem of me being terrible at scary games and also not having anything other than Sony consoles.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Reznik wrote: »
    Need some psychological horror as inspiration for a little project. Stuff like Silent Hill (the games - haven't seen the film but from what I hear it's not very good) and Jacob's Ladder (or at least that part that's up on youtube that is clearly the inspiration for Silent Hill). I think Eternal Darkness might also fit?

    I'm pretty sure psychological horror is the right term, anyway. 'Smart' horror, basically. No silly jump scares or excessive gore for no reason other than having excessive gore. Just.... disturbing, creepy, scary stuff that plays with your head and makes you uneasy and fills you with a sense of dread in between scares.

    Can be games or movies, but if they're games I'd like something that has a good Let's Play of it so I can watch/read along. Gets past the problem of me being terrible at scary games and also not having anything other than Sony consoles.

    Amnesia: The Dark Descent

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    If you've never read it, I would highly recommend House of Leaves.

    It's an incredibly dense book and the slow start to it can turn some off, but it takes a very simple concept and turns it into an experience. If you can get into it, I guarantee it'll stick with you and give you a fear of... certain spaces, for a long, long time.

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  • Green DreamGreen Dream Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    If you haven't already, look into Lovecraft. You should be able to find just about everything he's written somewhere online. Mostly short stories (or short novellas) that generate what could justifiably be called "psychological horror". Not because the fiction is self-consciously identified with any aspect of psychology, but because the horror is generated by broad, all-encompaing visions of man's place in the universe that place us on the edge total darkness, mocking and nullifying every possible meaningful or redeeming aspect of man's dominion.

    For movies, the only movie I've seen lately that had moments of genuine horror in it (as opposed to scares, or sickening and disgusting visuals) was a spanish-language film called The Orphanage. I think Guillermo del Toro was a producer on it - not sure when it was made. Virtually no cheap scares in the whole movie, and it builds tension and reveals deep horror with surprising force.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2011
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    If you've never read it, I would highly recommend House of Leaves.

    It's an incredibly dense book and the slow start to it can turn some off, but it takes a very simple concept and turns it into an experience. If you can get into it, I guarantee it'll stick with you and give you a fear of... certain spaces, for a long, long time.

    Yeah, don't read that at night in an empty office building. It's a really strange book, and you kind of can't overthink it or underthink it because either will ruin the experience.

    Also, seconding Green Dream on Lovecraft. The Color Out of Space remains one of my favorite short stories to this day. It's short and simple, but very good.

    If you're into that kind of stuff, Higurashi no Naku koro ni and kai make up an anime series that does have a few jumps and a few disturbing scenes, but neither of those things are what make the show so very disturbing - seemingly hopelessly so, for a while.

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  • flowerhoneyflowerhoney Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    gonna second up Amnesia the dark descent, if you play it in a dark room with headphones in you might actually be reduced to tears (I say this from experience)

    Its extra freaky if you live in a place where it rains a lot at night

    I've heard the Fatal Frame games are pretty scary too

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2011
    Oh yes, and Eternal Darkness is wonderful. Play that. That game is basically a tribute to Lovecraft.

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  • RikushixRikushix VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I remember even when I was a kid reading about Fatal Frame (especially Crimson Butterfly) being one of the scariest sets of games ever created.

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  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User, Transition Team regular
    edited April 2011
    Try a little Harlan Ellison?

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  • SkeezicksSkeezicks Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Amnesia: The Dark Descent is great and there's even a demo.
    I'm also going to recommend the film Session 9.

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  • AdusAdus Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I wouldn't recommend Session 9. It's just rather dull, in my opinion, but your opinion will vary.

    Why do people always go out of their way to blue the House in House of Leaves?

    Anyway, the first thing that comes to mind would be Pulse. The Asian version, not the American remake. It's not exactly scary but it's eerie and actually a rather interesting commentary on the isolating nature of technology. Granted this was in 2000 before social networking stuff was huge.

    It might be considered Supernatural horror, but then again so is Silent Hill. I believe it's on Netflix instant. I'd actually suggest going through their foreign horror section and looking at the higher rated titles, because there are a lot of good picks there, compared to American horror.

    Event Horizon might be a good choice, too. Though the concept it presents is better than how it was ultimately executed. That alone might be worth a look, though.

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  • finralfinral Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I thought Shutter (thai) was a really great creepy ghost story. From what I remember it doens't have many of the "jump" scares in it, although there may be a few.

    As for games, since I second the HP Lovecraft suggestions, I think that the Call of Cthulhu game on the original xbox is fantastic. The first level is one of the creepiest games things I have ever played. After that though, it becomes an FPS and is alittle less scary.

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  • JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Does anyone know of any other writing, or other media, that captures the Lovecraft sense of "You are pitifully small and insignificant, and blissfully unaware of that fact"? I don't really like his writing but I love the atmosphere.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2011
    For Lovecraft, certainly make sure to include At the Mountains of Madness.

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  • ZegunaZeguna Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Give Session 9 a shot. In terms of atmosphere, I would put it up there with movies like The Shining and The Thing.

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  • Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Salo is a freaking twisted Italian horror movie that will make you very very uncomfortable. Unlike a lot of the stuff mentioned above, this deals more with the horrors man can inflicted on others.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2011
    Adus wrote: »
    Why do people always go out of their way to blue the House in House of Leaves?

    It's kind of how the book works.

    ceres on
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  • ReznikReznik Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Awesome, thanks for all the suggestions!

    Amnesia: seen some reaction videos of people playing it, and a gameplay video with this one guy freaking the fuck out over skype. It looks terrifying. Will definitely check it out.

    House of Leaves: Heard a bit about it. Sounds interesting. Will see if they have any copies at the library.

    Lovecraft: Sounds awesome. Will definitely check out his work. I know a bit about it just in general terms but I haven't actually read his writing.

    The Orphanage: Found a copy. Will probably watch tomorrow. Sounds great.

    Higarushi no Naku koro ni: Gave it a quick wiki - Concept sounds interesting but I'm not much for anime so I don't think this is something I could get into

    Fatal Frame: I remember a friend of mine talking up how terrifying these were. If I can't get my hands on one of them there's at least a Let's Play of the second one up on lparchive

    Eternal Darkness: Love the whole concept of the sanity effects. Gonna try and find a good LP of this as well since I don't have a gamecube.

    Harlan Ellison: I absolutely love I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream. I've read it probably five or six times.

    Session 9: I'll see if I can get my hands on a copy, though it's got David Caruso in it and I can't not see him as Horatio...

    Pulse: Will also see if I can get my hands on a copy. Unfortunately I don't have Netflix. I thought it sounded familiar but - yeah, American remake. 11% on RT. Why do they even bother?

    Event Horizon: I recall being scared shitless by this movie many years ago when I saw it... either on TV or somebody had it on VHS. Either way, it left an impression. I wonder how it holds up.

    Salo: I've wiki'd this movie before. I don't think I'd be able to stomach it. I'll have to pass on this one.

    Whew. Feel free to keep suggesting things, though I think I'll have my hands full for a while.

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  • ShawnaseeShawnasee Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Reznik wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure psychological horror is the right term, anyway. 'Smart' horror, basically. No silly jump scares or excessive gore for no reason other than having excessive gore. Just.... disturbing, creepy, scary stuff that plays with your head and makes you uneasy and fills you with a sense of dread in between scares.

    Audition

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  • BagginsesBagginses __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2011
    I know you said you're not big on anime, but Paranoia Agent is pretty well known for being one of the scariest things out there, and is incredibly psychological.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-anabfAg06U&feature=related
    I'd also say that The Island of Doctor Moreau is a psych horror, although it may just be that it doesn't seem graphic due to the century since it was written.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2011
    Personally I would say that Paranoia Agent, while psychological, isn't really a horror. It was definitely interesting though, and it was probably less anime-like than much anime.

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  • ihmmyihmmy Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    If you haven't already, look into Lovecraft. You should be able to find just about everything he's written somewhere online. Mostly short stories (or short novellas) that generate what could justifiably be called "psychological horror". Not because the fiction is self-consciously identified with any aspect of psychology, but because the horror is generated by broad, all-encompaing visions of man's place in the universe that place us on the edge total darkness, mocking and nullifying every possible meaningful or redeeming aspect of man's dominion.

    For movies, the only movie I've seen lately that had moments of genuine horror in it (as opposed to scares, or sickening and disgusting visuals) was a spanish-language film called The Orphanage. I think Guillermo del Toro was a producer on it - not sure when it was made. Virtually no cheap scares in the whole movie, and it builds tension and reveals deep horror with surprising force.

    This. This so much. It is the only movie I have ever had to pause to take a break, remind myself it was a movie and not real, and get some cuddles from the dog before continuing. It is freaky and consuming and beautiful. I lent my copy out and don't remember to who :( it is just delicious

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  • LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Ils is a really tense flick. I won't say anything about it, and I don't recommend reading reviews of it either as they tend to be fairly spoilerrific.

    In the Mouth of Madness is well worth watching as well.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Skoal Cat wrote: »
    Salo is a freaking twisted Italian horror movie that will make you very very uncomfortable. Unlike a lot of the stuff mentioned above, this deals more with the horrors man can inflicted on others.

    This is not a film I would ever recommend lightly to anyone. LOTS of underage nudity, torture, rape, children being forced to eat shit, etc.

    This is not psychological horror (or a horror movie at all). It's very blatant, in your face, and definitely not what the OP is looking for by any stretch of the imagination.

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  • RikushixRikushix VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Wait Until Dark, a 1967 film staring Audrey Hepburn and Alan Arkin. A classic. Don't watch the trailer on youtube because it's rather spoiler-y. Give it a try, it's a great film. It's part drama but by god you could not find a film more fitting of "psychological horror". Stephen King votes it the scariest film ever made - not sure if I feel the same but it's certainly a glowing endorsement.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Plenty of good recommendations in this thread (aside from the Orphange, a horribly deriative film that steals every idea it has from better work), but not nearly enough classic horror.
    Watch:
    the 60s version of The Haunting,
    Carnival of Souls,
    The Innocents,
    Repulsion,
    Rosemary's Baby,
    Peeping Tom,
    Les Diaboliques,
    Eyes without a Face,
    and, of course, Psycho if you've never seen it.
    Everything great in psychological horror comes from these.

    Also try the films of David Lynch. Lost Highway and Mulholland Drive especially, as far as psychological horror goes.

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  • Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Esh wrote: »
    Skoal Cat wrote: »
    Salo is a freaking twisted Italian horror movie that will make you very very uncomfortable. Unlike a lot of the stuff mentioned above, this deals more with the horrors man can inflicted on others.

    This is not a film I would ever recommend lightly to anyone. LOTS of underage nudity, torture, rape, children being forced to eat shit, etc.

    This is not psychological horror (or a horror movie at all). It's very blatant, in your face, and definitely not what the OP is looking for by any stretch of the imagination.
    Its different sure, but I would certainly consider it a psychologically aggressive film. But hey, your opinion is cool too.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2011
    Skoal Cat wrote: »
    Esh wrote: »
    Skoal Cat wrote: »
    Salo is a freaking twisted Italian horror movie that will make you very very uncomfortable. Unlike a lot of the stuff mentioned above, this deals more with the horrors man can inflicted on others.

    This is not a film I would ever recommend lightly to anyone. LOTS of underage nudity, torture, rape, children being forced to eat shit, etc.

    This is not psychological horror (or a horror movie at all). It's very blatant, in your face, and definitely not what the OP is looking for by any stretch of the imagination.
    Its different sure, but I would certainly consider it a psychologically aggressive film. But hey, your opinion is cool too.

    I think the OP kind of ruled out torture porn, the way I read it. I had a friend who was really into some of those movies. If it's like the sort of thing that he used to watch, it's not pretty, but it's also not very psychological outside of "watch people be tortured and torn apart". The aim of a psychological horror is more to make you scared of what's coming around the corner and less to see how long you can watch before you throw up. The latter is a different kind of horror.

    eidt: I just looked up Salo. It's based on 120 Days of Sodom, by the Marquis de Sade. I've read much of that book, and knowing that, it is very, very unlikely you want to watch this movie. It's not really psychological horror, it's about torture for the sake of seeing how far you can go and still get it up. The book is basically Saw written in the 1700's.

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  • AsiinaAsiina ... WaterlooRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I love psychological horror too. I think any movie where you see the monster has taken the easy way out.

    Paranormal Activity is really scary. The sequel is more of the same.

    Amnesia is pretty darn scary, but has too many BOO! moments for me.

    The original The Haunting is very good, as is House on Haunted Hill. The remakes are terribad though.

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2011
    JihadJesus wrote: »
    Does anyone know of any other writing, or other media, that captures the Lovecraft sense of "You are pitifully small and insignificant, and blissfully unaware of that fact"? I don't really like his writing but I love the atmosphere.

    The SCP Foundation.

    Start here.

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  • AsiinaAsiina ... WaterlooRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    JihadJesus wrote: »
    Does anyone know of any other writing, or other media, that captures the Lovecraft sense of "You are pitifully small and insignificant, and blissfully unaware of that fact"? I don't really like his writing but I love the atmosphere.

    The SCP Foundation.

    Start here.

    Screw you.

    I had shit to do today.

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  • DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Esh wrote: »
    Skoal Cat wrote: »
    Salo is a freaking twisted Italian horror movie that will make you very very uncomfortable. Unlike a lot of the stuff mentioned above, this deals more with the horrors man can inflicted on others.

    This is not a film I would ever recommend lightly to anyone. LOTS of underage nudity, torture, rape, children being forced to eat shit, etc.

    This is not psychological horror (or a horror movie at all). It's very blatant, in your face, and definitely not what the OP is looking for by any stretch of the imagination.

    Sounds a little in the vein of "The Human Centipede," which I have no interest in watching, ever. The trailer and the wikipedia page were enough to satiate my curiosity.

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  • FireflashFireflash Montreal, QCRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I enjoyed house of leaves but a lot of parts felt like a chore to me. Johnny's parts were always enjoyable but in the rest there's a lot of stuff that didn't feel necessary for the story itself, all the references and footnotes everywhere geez. Eventually I kinda understood that this book isn't made to be seen as just a story, but rather as what we are told it is in the book itself.

    When footnotes were just pretty basic references I treated them as such and skimmed them rapidly. A that point I really started enjoying it more and really got into it. And I kinda felt strange for a few days after finishing it. I don't know how to explain it.

    Edit: Is that Salo movie even legal?

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2011
    Fireflash: In many countries, no.

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  • SmokeStacksSmokeStacks Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Adus wrote: »
    Why do people always go out of their way to blue the House in House of Leaves?

    It only takes a couple of seconds. It's not like it takes a minute or two.

    It's not for everyone, but if you're looking for the psychological "horror that isn't jump boo in your face horror" than it might be right up your alley. Remember that the style at the beginning isn't exactly the same as the style later on, so if you start it and don't like it you might warm to it later.

    Xagarath's list is pretty good. You can find a lot of those films on cheap "Horror Collection" DVDs at department stores for a few bucks a piece. Check the bulk discount DVD bins.

    SCP Foundation is pretty good. It's one part stupid and three parts horrifying. But for every entry that is dumb you're bound to stumble upon an entry that freaks you out.

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  • RikushixRikushix VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Asiina wrote: »
    JihadJesus wrote: »
    Does anyone know of any other writing, or other media, that captures the Lovecraft sense of "You are pitifully small and insignificant, and blissfully unaware of that fact"? I don't really like his writing but I love the atmosphere.

    The SCP Foundation.

    Start here.

    Screw you.

    I had shit to do today.

    Oh goddamn. I need to study.

    The best by far are the log files of 914.

    http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/experiment-log-914

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2011
    My favourite logs are the ones for SCP-093 and SCP-087.

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  • BedlamBedlam Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I really liked The grudge 1&2 and The ring. They both kind of have elements where nothing is really safe. Also Stephen King's It was one of the scariest books ive read but I was a teenager when I read it.

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  • Panda4YouPanda4You Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
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  • RikushixRikushix VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Bedlam wrote: »
    I really liked The grudge 1&2 and The ring. They both kind of have elements where nothing is really safe. Also Stephen King's It was one of the scariest books ive read but I was a teenager when I read it.

    I'm assuming you mean the American remakes - you should watch the original Ringu, it's pretty damn scary

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