Despite there being a number of professionals here it still doesn't strike me as a serious art forum. Probably because of how little discussion there really is about art.
You'd probably be surprised then about how little discussion there is about art within professional game companies as well then.
Haha that doesn't surprise me at all. And I didn't mean for my comment to be such a jab at the forum as it reads, I just meant that I don't think this is the harsh all critique all the time forum as some of you depict it as. I see it as a pretty casual place where people can pretty often get away without getting too heavily critiqued on their work.
Does anyone know where Bacon's (I think it was Bacon's) rant about solid black not being the devil is? I want to show an elitist buttwad that his art teacher was stupid.
What's even more depressing is the number of people in art schools across the country that would like to make art that looks like this, and yet still somehow fail.
@Mango: Actually if I were you I wouldn't use that rant, because it's speaking more out of frustration than anything. A more effective and less incendiary way to get the point across would be to dig up some research on artist's palettes. Any of the classical artists that started with a grisaille would obviously have used black, and arguing that Rembrandt or Caravaggio did their work without black is a hard position to take once you take one look at their paintings.
This isn't the best site in the world (it mixes up Claude Monet with Edouard Manet and produces a fictional character called Edouard Monet, for example), but it does show a consistent use of black throughout art history. http://www.webexhibits.org/pigments/intro/history.html
I'd dig up some better sources but I really need to go eat some lunch.
"she's surrealist in the way that she used objects in her work..."
I'm glad Beuys and about a gazillian Found Art artists'll be glad to know they've just been reclassified...
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"she's surrealist in the way that she used objects in her work..."
I'm glad Beuys and about a gazillian Found Art artists'll be glad to know they've just been reclassified...
i... actually really liked some of those. i don't know if i'd call it great art but there's something rather appealing it.
Also, that its done by a 4 year old means I can enjoy it without having some pretentious douche explaining why he chose this color of orange to represent his puberty confusion and his wondering why he wasn't a fish with breasts and why that is "arty"
I liked the 4 year old's work better than the perpetual garbage art installations at the gallery across the street from the shop where I work. I'm so fucking tired of people who think all they have to do is spray paint a knee-high mound of self-generated trash to get a gallery exhibition, and that galleries like the one across the street from me make that possible.
t: seriously, Manhattan's art scene is pretty dire right now, it is all about either:
*garbage art (no, not found art, found art makes some sense, but when you buy and ruin items on purpose in order to generate trash, that's fucking retarded), see also "multi-platform performance art"
*"street art"-- the neutering of graffiti into mass marketable cuteness (I'm ok with this one, but it's getting boring)
Seriously, if I see one more artist statement about how "our natural world is dying and wanted to show how my natural relationship with the Earth is being corrupted by the encroachment of the commercial elements of our pre-packaged society" next to a television covered in spaghetti sauce and glitter I'm going to punt a puppy
"she's surrealist in the way that she used objects in her work..."
I'm glad Beuys and about a gazillian Found Art artists'll be glad to know they've just been reclassified...
"she's surrealist in the way that she used objects in her work..."
I'm glad Beuys and about a gazillian Found Art artists'll be glad to know they've just been reclassified...
unless she manages to realize that the whole damn enterprise is terminally subjective
and if she doesn't, I'm sure by then we'll have developed the technology to deliver knowledge at high speed on fists directly to the brain
pretty sure that technology is already available, unless pain is not considered to be information.
really, we ought to rate all art in punches to the face
"I liked it so you don't get a punch in the face"
"yeah, well I hated it so you get two punches in the face"
unless she manages to realize that the whole damn enterprise is terminally subjective
and if she doesn't, I'm sure by then we'll have developed the technology to deliver knowledge at high speed on fists directly to the brain
I dunno, considering the whole "she was never influenced by outside forces" part of her schtick, maybe her parents will keep her separated from any sort of contact with other artists to keep that cash cow going.
Personally, while I can appreciate the morbid curiosity appeal of running the Art History equivalent of Fredrick II's language deprivation experiment, I highly doubt it's likely to yield the art version of 'natural language'. (At least the likelihood of it yielding a room full of dead babies is less likely, though when you're combining highly toxic paint pigments with small children, who knows.)
It's more about unique/interesting neurological disorders than psychology specifically...but I think you'd enjoy it regardless. It's really interesting! Amazon reviewers gave it 4.5 out of 5! I really liked it too!
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the new ones are months old at this point but goddamnit they're still new to me!
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Oh man hahaha, I thought you were the one that told me they started making episodes again. Yeah, I found out about a month ago and am slowly listening through all the new ones. Great even without Nick Breckon, the thumbs
Which isn't what I want from a dog, really- having an abundance of introspection isn't a major selling point. I just want a happy fluffy dog that just wants to run around and have fun and also be petted and also fetch tennis balls and also not poop on my carpet.
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Haha that doesn't surprise me at all. And I didn't mean for my comment to be such a jab at the forum as it reads, I just meant that I don't think this is the harsh all critique all the time forum as some of you depict it as. I see it as a pretty casual place where people can pretty often get away without getting too heavily critiqued on their work.
Unless it's bad.
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sooooo tired
Here: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showpost.php?p=10234569&postcount=1349
edit: now give that gullible bastard a proper beating
Muahahahaha
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-13660478
What's even more depressing is the number of people in art schools across the country that would like to make art that looks like this, and yet still somehow fail.
@Mango: Actually if I were you I wouldn't use that rant, because it's speaking more out of frustration than anything. A more effective and less incendiary way to get the point across would be to dig up some research on artist's palettes. Any of the classical artists that started with a grisaille would obviously have used black, and arguing that Rembrandt or Caravaggio did their work without black is a hard position to take once you take one look at their paintings.
This isn't the best site in the world (it mixes up Claude Monet with Edouard Manet and produces a fictional character called Edouard Monet, for example), but it does show a consistent use of black throughout art history.
http://www.webexhibits.org/pigments/intro/history.html
I'd dig up some better sources but I really need to go eat some lunch.
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http://www.mr-whistlers-art.info/art/studio/tools_materials/palette.shtml
http://www.essentialvermeer.com/palette/palette_vermeer%27_palette.html
http://realcolorwheel.com/Bouguereau.htm (search for palette)
http://gurneyjourney.blogspot.com/2008/05/palette-project.html
http://attentiveequations.com/2010/04/09/frans-hals-and-a-simple-palette/
http://www.explore-drawing-and-painting.com/John-Singer-Sargent.html
http://michaellynnadams.com/zorn-palette/
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"she's surrealist in the way that she used objects in her work..."
I'm glad Beuys and about a gazillian Found Art artists'll be glad to know they've just been reclassified...
i... actually really liked some of those. i don't know if i'd call it great art but there's something rather appealing it.
Also, that its done by a 4 year old means I can enjoy it without having some pretentious douche explaining why he chose this color of orange to represent his puberty confusion and his wondering why he wasn't a fish with breasts and why that is "arty"
t: seriously, Manhattan's art scene is pretty dire right now, it is all about either:
*garbage art (no, not found art, found art makes some sense, but when you buy and ruin items on purpose in order to generate trash, that's fucking retarded), see also "multi-platform performance art"
*"street art"-- the neutering of graffiti into mass marketable cuteness (I'm ok with this one, but it's getting boring)
Seriously, if I see one more artist statement about how "our natural world is dying and wanted to show how my natural relationship with the Earth is being corrupted by the encroachment of the commercial elements of our pre-packaged society" next to a television covered in spaghetti sauce and glitter I'm going to punt a puppy
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I wonder how much of the masters' completed work never saw the light of day
edit: now now, tapeslinger, that's not necessary
just punt the artist instead
It seems this will not be her first exhibition
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/culturenews/4176788/Art-gallery-fooled-into-showing-work-of-a-two-year-old.html
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they want expression of deep meaning
they aren't going to get it if I punt them myself now are they
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Is it wrong to think that at this rate, that kid is likely to grow up to be the world's most arrogant motherfucker?
"Hey man I've been getting gallery shows since I was 2 years old, I think I know a little more about art than you do."
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and if she doesn't, I'm sure by then we'll have developed the technology to deliver knowledge at high speed on fists directly to the brain
really, we ought to rate all art in punches to the face
"I liked it so you don't get a punch in the face"
"yeah, well I hated it so you get two punches in the face"
it's like a direct form of art criticism
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I dunno, considering the whole "she was never influenced by outside forces" part of her schtick, maybe her parents will keep her separated from any sort of contact with other artists to keep that cash cow going.
Personally, while I can appreciate the morbid curiosity appeal of running the Art History equivalent of Fredrick II's language deprivation experiment, I highly doubt it's likely to yield the art version of 'natural language'. (At least the likelihood of it yielding a room full of dead babies is less likely, though when you're combining highly toxic paint pigments with small children, who knows.)
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The subject started with Minecraft textures, so it's not terribly difficult to sway the person's thinking.
oh man it was so depressing reading about that
it's so evil and so dumb
the dumb part might be a little bit forgivable, but still
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Edit: Oh wait, Im thinking about Sunshine! Yeah, Sunshine was bad.
The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat by Oliver Sacks
It's more about unique/interesting neurological disorders than psychology specifically...but I think you'd enjoy it regardless. It's really interesting! Amazon reviewers gave it 4.5 out of 5! I really liked it too!
Musicophilia especially
the new ones are months old at this point but goddamnit they're still new to me!
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Oh man hahaha, I thought you were the one that told me they started making episodes again. Yeah, I found out about a month ago and am slowly listening through all the new ones. Great even without Nick Breckon,
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I need to get that dog.
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I'm quoting this because it needs to be on this page twice. Also, this is perhaps the only dog I would clean up after due to its ratio of cuteness.
it just destroys the whole point
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Fuck you too buddy.
only its not a computer and isn't as cool
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I love corgis. I love Huskies. I... agree with you. That dog just doesn't look right.
And I have a corgi/american eskimo.
Which isn't what I want from a dog, really- having an abundance of introspection isn't a major selling point. I just want a happy fluffy dog that just wants to run around and have fun and also be petted and also fetch tennis balls and also not poop on my carpet.
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If you buy an Old English Sheepdog I may give in to your persistent marriage proposals just to ensure consistent fluffy dog access.
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