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Detecting Metal for fun and for treasure

XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
edited June 2011 in Debate and/or Discourse
There comes a time in every rightly constructed boy's life that he has a raging desire to go somewhere and dig for hidden treasure.
- Mark Twain

So, I enjoy metal detecting and recently had the chance to go out for a few hours and actually get down to it.

It's hard work, sometimes a huge pain in the ass and very rarely do you find anything. But still .... treasure you know?

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(you will never find this)

(or will you?)

First off, you need you some gear!

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Gotta have your Metal Detector (I have a Bounty Hunter Tracker IV because I'm poor)
a good folding shovel (they make better tools, but again, since I haven't found buried treasure yet, I'll stick to the cheap fellow pictured)
Gloves to keep your hands from getting disgusting
A good Backpack to hold your:
Screwdriver (for assembling your MD)
Tissues (for blowing your nose)
Poncho (in case of rain)
Knife (in case of hobos)
Electrical Tape ( .... )
String (for .... something, I'm sure)
First Aid Kit (in case of cuts or snake bites)
Extra Batteries (in case your other ones go bad)
Compass (for finding north)

I like to research stuff before I go traipsing off through the woods.

I find places like this:

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and dig up worthless crap like this:

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(something metal) (a hinge perhaps)
A pull tab
two bottle caps
ok, the knife is kind of cool, but that was a fluke

most of the time it's rusty nails and old cans

sometimes though you'll spend a month or so really researching a cool Civil War site and find the door to an old cast iron wood stove

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sometimes you'll wander around a beach and find 40 cents and some fake jewelry!

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and sometimes (like today) you'll find a billion rusty nails (not pictured) and 510 yen (buried 6" deep on a beach in southern maryland of all places)

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Anyone here metal detect? Anyone want to?

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  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I am so fucking metal that a metal detector would go off the scale around me

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  • TastyfishTastyfish Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    It'd be quite interesting if you could do this whilst diving - in the UK off the Scily Isles there is apparently a lot of medieval wrecks that have pretty much disintegrated but are in recreational depths (and not war-graves)

    Whether you can get underwater ones that can account for the large amount of metal you're wearing I don't know.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    you can!

    but I know very little of this as it would be way too rich for my blood

    The one I have was just shy of $100 new. There are models into the thousands.

    edit: the Tesoro Sand Shark can go down to 200ft

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  • TastyfishTastyfish Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    The reviews for that seem to be talking more about wading, whereas with diving the larger issue would probably be the 10kg of metal strapped to your waist and the tank on your back. Are metal detectors very much focused in the direction you point them, or are they more proximity alarms for metal?

    I should probably read more about how they actually work.

    [edit] Looks like it would work, but then weird salvage rules start to come into play.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    they're pretty focused. My next purchase (in a million years) will be a pro pointer (which is essentially a super focused detector). It's kind of a pain sifting through a bunch of dirt or sand when you only know the general area of your find.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Autothrall is good at detecting metal...

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  • Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Related article
    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/04/pictures/110404-gold-treasure-iron-age-roman-coins-british-science/

    Related excerpts
    Fifty thousand Roman coins found in a field in Somerset, England, in 2010 (including the artifacts above) amount to the largest hoard of coins discovered in a single vessel—and the second largest hoard of ancient coins ever found in Britain, according to British Museum experts.
    ...
    The so-called torques date from between the third and first century B.C. Amateur metal detector user David Booth discovered the treasure on his first time out—and just seven steps from his car, according to the museum's website.
    ...
    The torque find—valued at £462,000 (U.S. $741,000)—is "the most important hoard of Iron Age gold ever found in this country," Hyslop said in a statement.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I'm comforted at night by my rusty nails and corona bottle caps

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  • Beren39Beren39 Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I scuba dive and I always dream of finding a chest of treasure in some of the ship wrecks I've been around. Unlikely considering they are usually 20th century tankers off the coast of Florida :P Who knows, maybe I'll find a chest of doubloons when I go scuba diving in the caribbean next year. I'd be extremely interested in metal detecting while diving but I've only just got into deep diving photography and that is an expensive hobby in its own right!

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  • Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Beren, are you far south in Florida?

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  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Beren39 wrote: »
    I scuba dive and I always dream of finding a chest of treasure in some of the ship wrecks I've been around. Unlikely considering they are usually 20th century tankers off the coast of Florida :P Who knows, maybe I'll find a chest of doubloons when I go scuba diving in the caribbean next year. I'd be extremely interested in metal detecting while diving but I've only just got into deep diving photography and that is an expensive hobby in its own right!

    20th century tankers might contain some pretty sweet finds.

    I've always wanted to expore some wrecks underwater, although I expect the experience is about as close to playing a survival-horror game in real life as it gets.

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  • TheOrangeTheOrange Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Its all fun and game 'till you see something moving in the dark, then its brick shitting time.

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  • KillgrimageKillgrimage Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I have a question!

    I don't know anything about metal detecting. Do certain types of rocks also set of the detector, or is that really rare/only happens in certain places (lots of volcanic rock or something). Also, can you look for meteorites with the detector?

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I have a question!

    I don't know anything about metal detecting. Do certain types of rocks also set of the detector, or is that really rare/only happens in certain places (lots of volcanic rock or something). Also, can you look for meteorites with the detector?

    I think certain kinds of rock can set off a detector but they're pretty uncommon (like if they have a lot of iron or copper in them)

    I know people find meteorites with them!

    edit: Meteorite Detecting

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  • DeadfallDeadfall I don't think you realize just how rich he is. In fact, I should put on a monocle.Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I lost my wedding ring in a field last year. Took my step-dad's metal detector and made a treasure hunting weekend out of it.

    Ended up with no ring, 26 cents and a small medallion that said, "Somebody loves you!" Which was almost like being slapped in the face.

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  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    if i remember correctly, metal detectors work by inducing eddy currents that interfere with the magnetic field produced by the detector and it measures those field fluctuations, so in theory anything that you can induce a current in will set it off

    basically: if the rock has enough elemental metal in it then yeah it will set it off, but that's pretty rare

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  • DarkDragoonDarkDragoon Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Metal detecting is cool and all, but it'd be nice for more people to be better about recording/reporting/preserving archaeological sites when they go out digging for treasure. They are already prone to being ruined due to people intentionally looting them, so they really don't need it made worse by people just goosing around with a detector to see what they could find.

    Yeah, I realize that the overlap between the range of detectors and the depth in the ground at which there's less chance of prior disruption to the context isn't that great, but it's kind of obnoxious to listen to family members want to go to town with a metal detector and a shovel on a new possible archaeological site that you've found before you have a chance to go through all of the proper procedures. Plus there's all the legal stuff to contend with.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I thought I heard of people who make some extra cash hanging out at the beach with their metal detectors, looking around for lost jewelry and selling what they found, or making their services available to people who had lost something metal in the sand for a fee.

    Seems like it would be more of a hobby than a way to make serious income. Like, you're going to be hanging around at the beach anyway so you may as well detect some metal and have a chance of getting some moneys while you're there.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I don't think you could make a predictable living off of MDing, but I know a couple people who have made several thousand from finding lost jewelry on various beaches. Of course, they are mostly retired and can go all day.

    I mostly MD for the history and just to see what's out there. I'm not sure what I'd do if I every found anything of historical significance. 'It belongs in a museum' would probably be my attitude hehe

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Metal detecting is cool and all, but it'd be nice for more people to be better about recording/reporting/preserving archaeological sites when they go out digging for treasure. They are already prone to being ruined due to people intentionally looting them, so they really don't need it made worse by people just goosing around with a detector to see what they could find.

    Yeah, I realize that the overlap between the range of detectors and the depth in the ground at which there's less chance of prior disruption to the context isn't that great, but it's kind of obnoxious to listen to family members want to go to town with a metal detector and a shovel on a new possible archaeological site that you've found before you have a chance to go through all of the proper procedures. Plus there's all the legal stuff to contend with.

    I'm sure some people are probably pretty careless. I always make sure to fill in any holes and honestly, I end up packing out a bunch of garbage.

    The value of my finds currently total $6.74 (0.41 in dimes and a penny and $6.33 in Yen)

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  • Rhan9Rhan9 Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Man, you're living the dream of the 7-year old me. The MD would be great if I had a chance to go anywhere near Agincourt, since people keep finding arrowheads constantly thereabouts even nowadays, which sort of speaks on how many arrows were shot back in the day.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Rhan9 wrote: »
    Man, you're living the dream of the 7-year old me. The MD would be great if I had a chance to go anywhere near Agincourt, since people keep finding arrowheads constantly thereabouts even nowadays, which sort of speaks on how many arrows were shot back in the day.

    I would love to find an old weapon or something. I'm trying to set aside some time to head to my friends farm where parts of the Army of the Potomac camped for several months. The only annoying part is that a lot of the fields were corn last season and it's difficult to swing a MD when there are old tough corn stalks every foot.

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  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Xaquin wrote: »
    Rhan9 wrote: »
    Man, you're living the dream of the 7-year old me. The MD would be great if I had a chance to go anywhere near Agincourt, since people keep finding arrowheads constantly thereabouts even nowadays, which sort of speaks on how many arrows were shot back in the day.

    I would love to find an old weapon or something. I'm trying to set aside some time to head to my friends farm where parts of the Army of the Potomac camped for several months. The only annoying part is that a lot of the fields were corn last season and it's difficult to swing a MD when there are old tough corn stalks every foot.

    civil/revolutionary war stuff is pretty cool
    just remember, don't fuck with cannon balls

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    dlinfiniti wrote: »
    Xaquin wrote: »
    Rhan9 wrote: »
    Man, you're living the dream of the 7-year old me. The MD would be great if I had a chance to go anywhere near Agincourt, since people keep finding arrowheads constantly thereabouts even nowadays, which sort of speaks on how many arrows were shot back in the day.

    I would love to find an old weapon or something. I'm trying to set aside some time to head to my friends farm where parts of the Army of the Potomac camped for several months. The only annoying part is that a lot of the fields were corn last season and it's difficult to swing a MD when there are old tough corn stalks every foot.

    civil/revolutionary war stuff is pretty cool
    just remember, don't fuck with cannon balls

    Yeah, I'm not sure what I'd do if I found an old one of those. A guy I know found a grapeshot canister though which was really cool and could be handled as it didn't have the explosive base attached.

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  • KillgrimageKillgrimage Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    My husband used to work for Fish and Wildlife here in MA. They would cart him off to remote places such as Noman's Land, an island off the coast of Cape Cod for waterbird surveys. The island used to have an airfield back during WWII, so there is a shit ton of unexploded ordinance (mines, shell, mortars) just laying around, no metal detector needed. (Un?)fortunately it is closed to the public now, but I always thought it would be a good hunting ground for perhaps even cooler stuff.

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  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    There's an old ordnance testing range and artillery training area that's been converted into a park near where my parents live in BC. Every few years someone climbs over the fences and gets blowed up real good.

    Amateur bomb disposal ranks up there with DIY vasectomies in terms of ideas that are bad.

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  • JakarrdJakarrd In the belly of OklahomaRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Metal Detecting was always fun back in the day for me. I'd take my dad's MD and bike around to places to hunt. The area I lived in wasn't exactly a crossroads of history so you rarely found more than a couple of coins, metal cans and fish hooks.

    I've been tempted to research some MDs and buy one. Then on weekends just go on a small roadtrip and scout some places.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Jakarrd wrote: »
    Metal Detecting was always fun back in the day for me. I'd take my dad's MD and bike around to places to hunt. The area I lived in wasn't exactly a crossroads of history so you rarely found more than a couple of coins, metal cans and fish hooks.

    I've been tempted to research some MDs and buy one. Then on weekends just go on a small roadtrip and scout some places.

    you can get decent ones from $95 - $250. Mine was $95 +/- and is pretty accurate down to 6-8 inches depending on soil conditions.

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  • KillgrimageKillgrimage Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Xaquin wrote: »
    dlinfiniti wrote: »
    Xaquin wrote: »
    Rhan9 wrote: »
    Man, you're living the dream of the 7-year old me. The MD would be great if I had a chance to go anywhere near Agincourt, since people keep finding arrowheads constantly thereabouts even nowadays, which sort of speaks on how many arrows were shot back in the day.

    I would love to find an old weapon or something. I'm trying to set aside some time to head to my friends farm where parts of the Army of the Potomac camped for several months. The only annoying part is that a lot of the fields were corn last season and it's difficult to swing a MD when there are old tough corn stalks every foot.

    civil/revolutionary war stuff is pretty cool
    just remember, don't fuck with cannon balls

    Yeah, I'm not sure what I'd do if I found an old one of those. A guy I know found a grapeshot canister though which was really cool and could be handled as it didn't have the explosive base attached.

    I gotta ask, why shouldn't you fuck with cannonballs? I thought they were just round lumps of metal, do they have something dangerous inside?

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  • Rhan9Rhan9 Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    There are certain types of cannonballs that are essentially hollow and packed full of explosives. I find it rather dubious that any would be still explosive, however, since they were constructed with gunpowder and laying in the ground for a hundred and fifty years pretty much ensures that the powder will be soaked through.

    Finding solid cannonballs offers no danger whatsoever.
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  • Suicide SlydeSuicide Slyde Haunts your dreams of mountains sunk below the seaRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I think cannonball is being used here in the sense of anything fired out of artillery. You are right that cannonballs are mostly just round lumps of metal, however there are many types of artillery such as mortars and howitzers that used timed or percussion fuses. For the amateur detector, it would probably be wise to avoid handling anything that looks like it could explode in your face.

    My wife and I borrowed her grandfathers metal detector and went to a park that used to be a small zoo in the middle of our city. We found some remnants but everything was permanently fixed to the ground. We had fun but let me just say it was the first and last time we ever went out with a metal detector.

    EDIT: Beat'd

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I would suggest starting at a sandy location first. At least when you come home empty handed, your back won't hurt =)

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  • Beren39Beren39 Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Skoal Cat wrote: »
    Beren, are you far south in Florida?

    I'm actually not from Florida but I was diving in the Gulf around Venice and the Atlantic around Jupiter.

    Robman wrote: »
    20th century tankers might contain some pretty sweet finds.

    I've always wanted to expore some wrecks underwater, although I expect the experience is about as close to playing a survival-horror game in real life as it gets.

    They always have extremely interesting life anyway, as for the horror movie part, nothing like getting close to a hole in the hull to inspect and have a moray eel pop out. There's always random debris you can find at the bottom that makes you wonder why? But ya sounds like the best stuff is situated around the caribbean, this article on treasure sounds cool: http://www.popularmechanics.com/outdoors/sports/watersports/4230711

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  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Rhan9 wrote: »
    There are certain types of cannonballs that are essentially hollow and packed full of explosives. I find it rather dubious that any would be still explosive, however, since they were constructed with gunpowder and laying in the ground for a hundred and fifty years pretty much ensures that the powder will be soaked through.

    Finding solid cannonballs offers no danger whatsoever.
    TETANUS!

    Just FYI.

    early explosive artillery used black powder as an explosive which will take centuries to degrade if kept away from air light and water... like you'd find in a sealed iron ball.

    there are plenty of stories out there of people keeping antique cannon balls next to fireplaces or dropping them on something hard and having them explode.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    whooooooo found a 1905 Barber Quarter today?

    this fellow right here found it.

    low tide on the Potomac yields all sorts of stuff

    pics when I get home

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Finding this was a dream come true. If I never find another thing, I will consider buying my metal detector a sound investment

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  • JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Xaquin wrote: »
    Metal detecting is cool and all, but it'd be nice for more people to be better about recording/reporting/preserving archaeological sites when they go out digging for treasure. They are already prone to being ruined due to people intentionally looting them, so they really don't need it made worse by people just goosing around with a detector to see what they could find.

    Yeah, I realize that the overlap between the range of detectors and the depth in the ground at which there's less chance of prior disruption to the context isn't that great, but it's kind of obnoxious to listen to family members want to go to town with a metal detector and a shovel on a new possible archaeological site that you've found before you have a chance to go through all of the proper procedures. Plus there's all the legal stuff to contend with.

    I'm sure some people are probably pretty careless. I always make sure to fill in any holes and honestly, I end up packing out a bunch of garbage.

    The value of my finds currently total $6.74 (0.41 in dimes and a penny and $6.33 in Yen)

    Even digging the holes in the first place disturbs the context. And garbage is mostly what Archaeologists look at. That is why they don't get along with the amateur metal detector crowd.

    That said, I think lots of them are being stuffy about it. People are going to dig holes anyway, so deal.

    If you find anything that seems to be a large quantity with historical value I would contact the state archaeologists office though. When they come out to do a dig, you can often volunteer to work on it, and then you get to see all the cool stuff.

    Speaking of nails, having done an archaeological field school dig, I have seen more fasteners that I ever thought I would. Round nails, square nails, tacks, staples. It mostly comes down to two things. Carelessness and the lack of garbage service everywhere before a certain period. I'm not sure when they got hard on construction sites actually taking off their garbage, but before a certain period of time they just lit it on fire and buried it.

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  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    archaeologists today are fucking things up for archaeologists in the future anyway

    on the other hand, they try to preserve stuff as much as possible and we wouldn't have the improved methods in the future if they weren't trying things now, but I'm sure you could turn this idea into a clever-sounding yet ignorant quip.

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  • Atlas in ChainsAtlas in Chains Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I prefer to stick to parks and picnic areas when I go metal detecting. I know I probably won't find anything amazing, but I have much better luck just finding a variety of coins. I've gone hiking into the woods to an old boys camp, found the foundations of the cabins, but all I found there was ancient cans of soup. At a park, I will work my ass off digging signal after signal for mostly pennies, but it can be exciting when I find a quarter. I've found a couple of dimes, too, but nothing old enough to be made of silver.

    The only problem with parks is apparently, 2 men in their 30's with metal detectors screams predator to parents and principals. Kids love to ask me questions about my machine and I have to run away from them like a leper so mom doesn't freak out.

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