Yeah, you want to read Hero of the Imperium before Defender.
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FreiA French Prometheus UnboundDeadwoodRegistered Userregular
edited June 2011
Isn't there like, a Warhammer fluff thread in general discussion where I can pick you guys up by the scruff of your respective necks and just put you there until the game is out? Anytime someone tries to talk about the game it's buried in 20 posts of stuff that most people don't even understand.
Isn't there like, a Warhammer fluff thread in general discussion where I can pick you guys up by the scruff of your respective necks and just put you there until the game is out? Anytime someone tries to talk about the game it's buried in 20 posts of stuff that most people don't even understand.
Well, there's the 40k thread down in CF, but they're just as likely to be talking about the tabletop game or modeling techniques as they are fluff.
But really, what is there to talk about regarding the game at this point? We've got a few trailers, a handful of screenshots and (now at least) the system requirements. We can keep rehashing "Oh, this screenshot looks cool/terrible until the thread stagnates and rots, or we can nerd out about the fluff.
I know what I'd prefer. Let the nerding out continue!
Isn't there like, a Warhammer fluff thread in general discussion where I can pick you guys up by the scruff of your respective necks and just put you there until the game is out? Anytime someone tries to talk about the game it's buried in 20 posts of stuff that most people don't even understand.
Sounds like you have a critical deficiency of dakka, good sir. Might I recommend mo' dakka?
For those who don't know; a space hulk is a huge drifting derelict ship (sometimes the size of a city) that has been lost in space or the warp for long periods of time (sometimes thousands of years). Due to this fact, there are no real rules to what you can find inside the hulk. As you break down the airlocks you might find yourself in icy frozen hallways or green lush surroundings or maybe a depiction of hell itself. Maybe Tyranids will have taken residence in the ship or crazed orks trying to enact some insane scheme or chaos marines who have been fighting a thousand year war against eachother for the favour of their dark gods in the bowels of the space hulk.
Basically, the setting is perfect for a 3rd/1st person game and the old game was awesome and we need a new one
Not to mention many hulks are multiple ships/hulks that have collided and fused. So you might be fighting in an Imperial hulk, cut through a wall which is mysteriously thick and find yourself in an Eldar ship, suddenly fighting through Wraithbone halls.
I really see Kill Team as a cheap way for the developers to scratch my 40K itch. It would be awesome if the Space Hulk was as someone suggested, a massive hodgepodge of different ships from our favorite factions. It would be great to fight Ethereal deprived Tau or even more obscure prey. It's simplicity would all multiple add ons and some imaginative ideas. Shallow? Maybe. Fun? I think it would be great.
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Alfred J. Kwakis it because you were insultedwhen I insulted your hair?Registered Userregular
Isn't there like, a Warhammer fluff thread in general discussion where I can pick you guys up by the scruff of your respective necks and just put you there until the game is out? Anytime someone tries to talk about the game it's buried in 20 posts of stuff that most people don't even understand.
Isn't there like, a Warhammer fluff thread in general discussion where I can pick you guys up by the scruff of your respective necks and just put you there until the game is out? Anytime someone tries to talk about the game it's buried in 20 posts of stuff that most people don't even understand.
Isn't there like, a Warhammer fluff thread in general discussion where I can pick you guys up by the scruff of your respective necks and just put you there until the game is out? Anytime someone tries to talk about the game it's buried in 20 posts of stuff that most people don't even understand.
So this is your first time in a 40k thread then?
Hey. Leave the virgin alone.
Negative, we need to introduce him to the divine glory of the Emprah's grace!
Quick, someone paint the virgin's head red so that he can understand faster.
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MrVyngaardLive From New EtoileStraight Outta SosariaRegistered Userregular
Isn't there like, a Warhammer fluff thread in general discussion where I can pick you guys up by the scruff of your respective necks and just put you there until the game is out? Anytime someone tries to talk about the game it's buried in 20 posts of stuff that most people don't even understand.
So this is your first time in a 40k thread then?
Hey. Leave the virgin alone.
Negative, we need to introduce him to the divine glory of the Emprah's grace!
Quick, someone paint the virgin's head red so that he can understand faster.
Heresy. A liturgy chip forcibly installed in his brain singing the hymns perpetual of our Gawd-Emprah would be far more pious.
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"now I've got this mental image of caucuses as cafeteria tables in prison, and new congressmen having to beat someone up on inauguration day." - Raiden333
Isn't there like, a Warhammer fluff thread in general discussion where I can pick you guys up by the scruff of your respective necks and just put you there until the game is out? Anytime someone tries to talk about the game it's buried in 20 posts of stuff that most people don't even understand.
So this is your first time in a 40k thread then?
Hey. Leave the virgin alone.
Negative, we need to introduce him to the divine glory of the Emprah's grace!
Quick, someone paint the virgin's head red so that he can understand faster.
Heresy. A liturgy chip forcibly installed in his brain singing the hymns perpetual of our Gawd-Emprah would be far more pious.
Isn't there like, a Warhammer fluff thread in general discussion where I can pick you guys up by the scruff of your respective necks and just put you there until the game is out? Anytime someone tries to talk about the game it's buried in 20 posts of stuff that most people don't even understand.
So this is your first time in a 40k thread then?
Hey. Leave the virgin alone.
Negative, we need to introduce him to the divine glory of the Emprah's grace!
Quick, someone paint the virgin's head red so that he can understand faster.
Heresy. A liturgy chip forcibly installed in his brain singing the hymns perpetual of our Gawd-Emprah would be far more pious.
True, but efficiency is important and we must convert him before the forces of Chaos can take root. After all an open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. I'm sure if we ask the right Inquisitor we could just split the difference and just paint the chip itself red.
It'd be a damn shame to have to purge the new guy.
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MrVyngaardLive From New EtoileStraight Outta SosariaRegistered Userregular
edited June 2011
This is also true.
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"now I've got this mental image of caucuses as cafeteria tables in prison, and new congressmen having to beat someone up on inauguration day." - Raiden333
Space Hulk, the boardgame, is fantastic by the way. It's my personal favorite 40K boardgame. It uses an action point system (think X-COM) where points you don't spend in your turn can be used for 'overwatch' (reaction fire) during your opponents run. Loved it.
As for making a Space Hulk video game, no need. It's been done. ;-)
Space Crusade and later Advanced Space Crusade were my gateway drugs into 40K. I didn't know about GW and 40K when I started playing those. Then I came across Space Hulk at the local fantasy shop I was frequenting for anime and Magic cards.
Me: "What the heck is this? Looks like Space Crusade."
Owner: "Sigh. Do you have three hours?"
Me: "Uh, sure. Why?"
*Owner breaks open Space Hulk box, and proceeds to play the game with me, while explaining the 40K universe*
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daveNYCWhy universe hate Waspinator?Registered Userregular
I really see Kill Team as a cheap way for the developers to scratch my 40K itch. It would be awesome if the Space Hulk was as someone suggested, a massive hodgepodge of different ships from our favorite factions. It would be great to fight Ethereal deprived Tau or even more obscure prey. It's simplicity would all multiple add ons and some imaginative ideas. Shallow? Maybe. Fun? I think it would be great.
It wouldn't even have to be that shallow. Given the warped nature of a hulk, you could stick in all kinds of gameplay. Classic Space Hulk 'shoot the genestealer' action, some funky morality issue where you move on a puritan/radical scale while on a quest to retrieve (radical) or destroy (puritan) spirit stones in order to activate some device to move the plot, and maybe even some jumping (more like controlled falling with the Terminator armor) puzzles using messed up internal gravity directions.
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Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
I see a modern Space Hulk game as something similiar to Dead Space but crazier. Take a solid chunk of Dead Space, make the environments 10x bigger and sprinkle a lot of xenos in there with a touch of warped reality and a few burly power armored BIG MEN and you got yourself a crazy awesome game
All was done in the name of the Corpse Emperor. The Sisters were willing martyred.
Still, you'd think that if all the Grey Knights needed was some innocent blood, the Sisters would have been able to spare a couple of pints each and still been able to watch their backs even if they were a little light headed.
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At least, that's what the GKs said afterwords.
All was done in the name of the Corpse Emperor. The Sisters were willing martyred.
Still, you'd think that if all the Grey Knights needed was some innocent blood, the Sisters would have been able to spare a couple of pints each and still been able to watch their backs even if they were a little light headed.
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At least, that's what the GKs said afterwords.
It's really a horrible bit of fluff. The GKs, a chapter of the best trained psykers, whose geneseed was chosen from the most loyal space marines, who are soulbound to the Emperor himself... and somehow they need to slaughter a whole pile of the Emperor's faithful to get their blood in order to remain pure? Not to mention that the Sisters had somehow been able to resist the whole taint thing.
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Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
It's pretty funny watching the "famous sisters of battle" list because they're basically all killed in action. In the fluff the sisters are constantly sacrificed to make any given scene more grimdark
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Alfred J. Kwakis it because you were insultedwhen I insulted your hair?Registered Userregular
BTW, as well as the previously mentioned Space Hulk game (which I think was pseudo real-time anyway) there is this non copywright infringing, freeware clone of the board game which is well worth a download.
It's pretty funny watching the "famous sisters of battle" list because they're basically all killed in action. In the fluff the sisters are constantly sacrificed to make any given scene more grimdark
You know how the ecclesiarchy works, there's no saint like a martyred saint.
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I heard the final boss in the upcoming Space Marine is to murder a room full of crying orphans who might have been tainted by chaos, while they feebly claw your leg plates and beg for mercy.
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MaddocI'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother?Registered Userregular
edited June 2011
Always loved Space Hulk (and Necromunda) due to the focus on a smaller number of minis.
Mostly because I feel like I can wrap my head around the strategy better that way, partially because I am terribly slow at painting. Like I'd love to put together a Tyranid army sometime, but the idea of painting a billion Hormagaunts or whatever is uuuugh.
I heard the final boss in the upcoming Space Marine is to murder a room full of crying orphans who might have been tainted by chaos, while they feebly claw your leg plates and beg for mercy.
That's the tutorial.
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Der Waffle MousBlame this on the misfortune of your birth.New Yark, New Yark.Registered Userregular
edited June 2011
The boss would be more something like attempting to slay the khitten.
Isn't there like, a Warhammer fluff thread in general discussion where I can pick you guys up by the scruff of your respective necks and just put you there until the game is out? Anytime someone tries to talk about the game it's buried in 20 posts of stuff that most people don't even understand.
So this is your first time in a 40k thread then?
No, I did partake in the thread for Chaos Rising/Retribution which had MINIMAL fluff talk because people talked about the game.
And I swear to god, by the scruff of your neckbeards I will have you all, crying and mewling like the day you were born. I WILL have you.
Isn't there like, a Warhammer fluff thread in general discussion where I can pick you guys up by the scruff of your respective necks and just put you there until the game is out? Anytime someone tries to talk about the game it's buried in 20 posts of stuff that most people don't even understand.
So this is your first time in a 40k thread then?
No, I did partake in the thread for Chaos Rising/Retribution which had MINIMAL fluff talk because people talked about the game.
And I swear to god, by the scruff of your neckbeards I will have you all, crying and mewling like the day you were born. I WILL have you.
Yeah, because we had previous games to talk about and how they would change things etc.
Now, we're out into the inky void, far beyond the guiding light of the Astronomicon. Can you blame us for falling back to known space?
Anyway, Space Marine! I hope there'll be a Heavy Bolter TF2 cross-promotion item thing. Because that would be awesome.
It's really a horrible bit of fluff. The GKs, a chapter of the best trained psykers, whose geneseed was chosen from the most loyal space marines, who are soulbound to the Emperor himself... and somehow they need to slaughter a whole pile of the Emperor's faithful to get their blood in order to remain pure? Not to mention that the Sisters had somehow been able to resist the whole taint thing.
Grey Knights care not whence the blood flows, only that it flows.
Blood for the Emperor of Humanity! Skulls for the Golden Throne!
All was done in the name of the Corpse Emperor. The Sisters were willing martyred.
Still, you'd think that if all the Grey Knights needed was some innocent blood, the Sisters would have been able to spare a couple of pints each and still been able to watch their backs even if they were a little light headed.
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Well, there's the 40k thread down in CF, but they're just as likely to be talking about the tabletop game or modeling techniques as they are fluff.
But really, what is there to talk about regarding the game at this point? We've got a few trailers, a handful of screenshots and (now at least) the system requirements. We can keep rehashing "Oh, this screenshot looks cool/terrible until the thread stagnates and rots, or we can nerd out about the fluff.
I know what I'd prefer. Let the nerding out continue!
Sounds like you have a critical deficiency of dakka, good sir. Might I recommend mo' dakka?
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Not to mention many hulks are multiple ships/hulks that have collided and fused. So you might be fighting in an Imperial hulk, cut through a wall which is mysteriously thick and find yourself in an Eldar ship, suddenly fighting through Wraithbone halls.
Wait, do they regularly sacrifice Sisters of Battle for holy blood or was that a one-time thing? That would make them so much more awesome.
So this is your first time in a 40k thread then?
Hey. Leave the virgin alone.
I second the idea of a new space hulk game.
Currently playing: GW2 and TSW
Negative, we need to introduce him to the divine glory of the Emprah's grace!
Quick, someone paint the virgin's head red so that he can understand faster.
Heresy. A liturgy chip forcibly installed in his brain singing the hymns perpetual of our Gawd-Emprah would be far more pious.
And this is why 40k threads rock.
Currently playing: GW2 and TSW
True, but efficiency is important and we must convert him before the forces of Chaos can take root. After all an open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. I'm sure if we ask the right Inquisitor we could just split the difference and just paint the chip itself red.
It'd be a damn shame to have to purge the new guy.
As for making a Space Hulk video game, no need. It's been done. ;-)
Me: "What the heck is this? Looks like Space Crusade."
Owner: "Sigh. Do you have three hours?"
Me: "Uh, sure. Why?"
*Owner breaks open Space Hulk box, and proceeds to play the game with me, while explaining the 40K universe*
It wouldn't even have to be that shallow. Given the warped nature of a hulk, you could stick in all kinds of gameplay. Classic Space Hulk 'shoot the genestealer' action, some funky morality issue where you move on a puritan/radical scale while on a quest to retrieve (radical) or destroy (puritan) spirit stones in order to activate some device to move the plot, and maybe even some jumping (more like controlled falling with the Terminator armor) puzzles using messed up internal gravity directions.
A one-time thing I think. Poor sisters of battle, they can never catch a break
Still, you'd think that if all the Grey Knights needed was some innocent blood, the Sisters would have been able to spare a couple of pints each and still been able to watch their backs even if they were a little light headed.
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At least, that's what the GKs said afterwords.
"deal with it"
It's really a horrible bit of fluff. The GKs, a chapter of the best trained psykers, whose geneseed was chosen from the most loyal space marines, who are soulbound to the Emperor himself... and somehow they need to slaughter a whole pile of the Emperor's faithful to get their blood in order to remain pure? Not to mention that the Sisters had somehow been able to resist the whole taint thing.
It's their blood, you see?
You know how the ecclesiarchy works, there's no saint like a martyred saint.
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Mostly because I feel like I can wrap my head around the strategy better that way, partially because I am terribly slow at painting. Like I'd love to put together a Tyranid army sometime, but the idea of painting a billion Hormagaunts or whatever is uuuugh.
That's the tutorial.
No, I did partake in the thread for Chaos Rising/Retribution which had MINIMAL fluff talk because people talked about the game.
And I swear to god, by the scruff of your neckbeards I will have you all, crying and mewling like the day you were born. I WILL have you.
Yeah, because we had previous games to talk about and how they would change things etc.
Now, we're out into the inky void, far beyond the guiding light of the Astronomicon. Can you blame us for falling back to known space?
Anyway, Space Marine! I hope there'll be a Heavy Bolter TF2 cross-promotion item thing. Because that would be awesome.
Grey Knights care not whence the blood flows, only that it flows.
Blood for the Emperor of Humanity! Skulls for the Golden Throne!