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SPACE MARINE - In the grim darkness of the future, there are only BIG MEN

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  • CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    see317 wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    All was done in the name of the Corpse Emperor. The Sisters were willing martyred.

    Still, you'd think that if all the Grey Knights needed was some innocent blood, the Sisters would have been able to spare a couple of pints each and still been able to watch their backs even if they were a little light headed.
    Virgin sacrifices are kind of a thing

    Who said anything about them being virgins?

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  • Halos Nach TariffHalos Nach Tariff Can you blame me? I'm too famous.Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    If I didn't know Mister Wards writing method better I'd think that he was subtly pointing to the Grey Knights actually being corrupted; sacrificing innocents and using their blood in rituals, wielding Daemon Weapons, their Chapter Master lives in the warp and has a Daemon Prince statline...

    But of course Ward doesn't really do subtle.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    If I didn't know Mister Wards writing method better I'd think that he was subtly pointing to the Grey Knights actually being corrupted; sacrificing innocents and using their blood in rituals, wielding Daemon Weapons, their Chapter Master lives in the warp and has a Daemon Prince statline...

    But of course Ward doesn't really do subtle.

    That's the thing about 40k fluff.
    Sometimes, it's really hard to tell the difference between "chaos corrupted heretical monster" and "Just that friggin badass".

    Heck, even within the fluff characters have difficulty with it (see Gaunt's Ghosts after their extended stay on the chaos planet in The Lost omnibus)

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  • South hostSouth host I obey without question Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I didn't care for the Nihtghane or whatever guy that started following Gaunt around.

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  • MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    BTW, as well as the previously mentioned Space Hulk game (which I think was pseudo real-time anyway) there is this non copywright infringing, freeware clone of the board game which is well worth a download.

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    That used to be a very very copyright infringing freeware clone of the boardgame; I remember the UI.

    Guess they finally gave up on the licensing with THQ.

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  • lizardlooplizardloop Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Just the watched the "Ultramarine" film.
    Wasn't bad. Not the best thing I've ever watched but not the worst. Some cool action scenes with chain swords. Just needed a bit less fog.

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  • BasilBasil Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    In the Grimdark Future, you can never have enough fog.

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  • -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I wish, if they did a new movie, they put some money towards it and did one of their existing huge battles. Even if they want to stick with Space Marines, they've got plenty to choose from.

    Space Marines vs Chaos Marines? The battle of the Fang. Space Marines vs Orks? Rynns World. Space Marines vs Tyranids? The battle for Macragge.

    Existing plot points they can take and flesh out into a 2 hour movie. Also, what makes it better, is they're things fans actually want to see.

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  • SJSJ College. Forever.Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    lizardloop wrote: »
    Just the watched the "Ultramarine" film.
    Wasn't bad. Not the best thing I've ever watched but not the worst. Some cool action scenes with chain swords. Just needed a bit less fog.

    'wasn't bad' is an odd way of spelling complete shit

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  • enc0reenc0re Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    It was bad. Wasn't there some tragic backstory of minimal funding and support?

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  • NeliNeli Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I enjoyed the various intros for the different warhammer games to have come out the last few years more than the ultramarines movie

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  • Renegade WolfRenegade Wolf Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Neli wrote: »
    I enjoyed the various intros for the different warhammer games to have come out the last few years more than the ultramarines movie

    That's rather understandable.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFkFo5SBx-g

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  • 3lwap03lwap0 Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I actually was the Gamesday they showed the Ultramarines trailer (Baltimore). It looked decent then, and clearly, they'd done well, but by the yardstick of the previous game intro's, fell fairly short.

    I think what did them ultimately was budget - Blur studios did the other trailers, and they're work is Pixar like in quality (and cost). Games workshop wasn't about to spend nearly that on a movie - not even close.

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  • Mr.SunshineMr.Sunshine Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    They should've totally said something to Relic to get them to get THQ to pay Blur to make a movie.

    For a game.

    Totally for a game.

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  • Waffles or whateverWaffles or whatever Previously known as, I shit you not, "Waffen" Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    3lwap0 wrote: »
    I actually was the Gamesday they showed the Ultramarines trailer (Baltimore). It looked decent then, and clearly, they'd done well, but by the yardstick of the previous game intro's, fell fairly short.

    I think what did them ultimately was budget - Blur studios did the other trailers, and they're work is Pixar like in quality (and cost). Games workshop wasn't about to spend nearly that on a movie - not even close.

    Imo. GW always comes off as the reason why their franchise is unable to expand into new markets. I'm actually surprised Relic was given permission to make several Warhammer video games tbh.

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  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Waffen wrote: »
    Imo. GW always comes off as the reason why their franchise is unable to expand into new markets. I'm actually surprised Relic was given permission to make several Warhammer video games tbh.
    The reason GW was always a bit weird about IP was that back in the day when the entire company was three ex-bikers in a shed everyone they tried to licence their IP to basically took advantage of their naivete and ended up with too many legal rights to do whatever with the IP and no oversight. It seems like it took them fifteen years to discover that you could hire your own lawyers to fight the other guy's. And another seven or eight to figure out that you really do get what you pay for in that department.

    They have, however, now discovered the magic of limited licences, but some of their board still remember the bad old days and don't like 'giving away' their ideas to other people despite any inducement or reassurance.

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  • lizardlooplizardloop Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    SJ wrote: »
    lizardloop wrote: »
    Just the watched the "Ultramarine" film.
    Wasn't bad. Not the best thing I've ever watched but not the worst. Some cool action scenes with chain swords. Just needed a bit less fog.

    'wasn't bad' is an odd way of spelling complete shit

    Would you care to elaborate on why you thought it was complete shit?

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  • SJSJ College. Forever.Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    What is there to elaborate on? The voice acting was the only thing that wasn't awful in every way, because they bothered to get professionals. The graphics were done by the people who did the bionicles movies for fucks sake.

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  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Having not seen the movie I already know it sucks simply because the BBFC actually permitted it to be released in the UK. Any accurate celluloid depiction of 40K ought by rights to be banned in the first edit then cut down to get a tentative 18-but-we-reserve-the-right-to-pull-it-if-there-are-too-many-heart-attacks. Especially if there are Chaos forces involved. :P

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  • enc0reenc0re Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Anybody know how much the Dawn of War intro cost? I firmly believe an entire movie of that, if affordable, could find a sizable audience.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Heh, this reminds me of how the opening to MechWarrior 4, if stretched out into a film, would be the closest thing we'd ever get to a MechWarrrior/Battletech film.

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  • CorporateLogoCorporateLogo The toilet knows how I feelRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    After reading the Grey Knights codex, I'd say you'd have a better chance fighting daemons on your own than you would allying with the Grey Knights

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  • DetharinDetharin Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    After reading the Grey Knights codex, I'd say you'd have a better chance fighting daemons on your own than you would allying with the Grey Knights

    Yet another reason why the Imperial Guard are the true heroes of 40k. Demonic incursion? No problem after sustaining numerous casualties I am sure the Grey Knights will be along shortly to claim all the credit for beating them back, followed shortly by the Inquisition to recruit one or two guys for being incredibly fucking awesome and then execute the rest of us under suspicion of being tainted by Chaos.

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  • Andy JoeAndy Joe We claim the land for the highlord! The AdirondacksRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Detharin wrote: »
    After reading the Grey Knights codex, I'd say you'd have a better chance fighting daemons on your own than you would allying with the Grey Knights

    Yet another reason why the Imperial Guard are the true heroes of 40k. Demonic incursion? No problem after sustaining numerous casualties I am sure the Grey Knights will be along shortly to claim all the credit for beating them back, followed shortly by the Inquisition to recruit one or two guys for being incredibly fucking awesome and then execute the rest of us under suspicion of being tainted by Chaos.

    And even when the Guard does accomplish stuff on its own, it all gets attributed to a single Lord General who was probably miles away from the front, or a regimental commander, or Ciaphas Cain, HERO OF THE IMPERIUM!

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  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    After reading the Grey Knights codex, I'd say you'd have a better chance fighting daemons on your own than you would allying with the Grey Knights

    Grey Knights aren't smurfs, they get shit done.

    And sorry, Guards are cool, but in one of Gaunt's Ghosts books it shows just how ineffective normal troopers are against a Bloodthirster or great class. Which is to say, they get butchered at lightspeed without even being able to return fire.

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  • badger2dbadger2d San FranciscoRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Neli wrote: »
    I enjoyed the various intros for the different warhammer games to have come out the last few years more than the ultramarines movie

    That's rather understandable.

    This video cracks me up every time I see it. It's so uniquely WH40K for a bunch of dudes with awesome guns, apparently infinite ammo (really, when did you ever hear of anyone running out of ammo in 40K?), and an entrenched position, to decide that the best tactic is to let out a mighty battle cry and charge the enemy in the open, guns blazing all the way as they close into melee.

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  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    badger2d wrote: »
    This video cracks me up every time I see it. It's so uniquely WH40K for a bunch of dudes with awesome guns, apparently infinite ammo (really, when did you ever hear of anyone running out of ammo in 40K?), and an entrenched position, to decide that the best tactic is to let out a mighty battle cry and charge the enemy in the open, guns blazing all the way as they close into melee.
    but the thing is that the objective they were ordered to take and hold is over there on the op of that hill, not down here behind this wall, and Space Marines follow orders. Also their armour gives them a better save than that wussy little wall anyway. :P

    (NB Your average 40K game represents about ten minutes of "real time" combat so ammo is not typically an issue for the solid slug firers. And the Guardsmen have solar-powered [strike]torches[/strike] guns anyway)

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  • FrozenzenFrozenzen Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    The even more awesome part is that when their opponents see them charging, their response is to charge themselves.

    I'd watch a movie with the style of the DoW intros in a heartbeat, it really feels like they capture the feeling of WH40k.

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  • Alfred J. KwakAlfred J. Kwak is it because you were insulted when I insulted your hair?Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    The Blur Studio Mark of Chaos intro is great as well, apart from the Legolas-Elf.

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  • TurkeyTurkey So, Usoop. TampaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
  • Alfred J. KwakAlfred J. Kwak is it because you were insulted when I insulted your hair?Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    heh, a Great Daemon of Tzeentch, nice

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  • ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    The Mark of Chaos intro is pretty neat, yeah

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URVLtMvHQs8

    Both Warhammer Online cinematics were pretty cool for their time too
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO5ZKhKYJNg
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE-BVw4LptI

    Of course, none of these are 40K so to stay on topic:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0m28yz6kmg

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  • AlegisAlegis Impeckable Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    odd I never saw that piece with the lictor before

    trailer used to cut off right at the farseer's "no it belongs to them"

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  • Renegade WolfRenegade Wolf Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Alegis wrote: »
    odd I never saw that piece with the lictor before

    trailer used to cut off right at the farseer's "no it belongs to them"

    IIRC the extended one plays during the credits at the end of the DoW2 campaign.

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  • CorporateLogoCorporateLogo The toilet knows how I feelRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    After reading the Grey Knights codex, I'd say you'd have a better chance fighting daemons on your own than you would allying with the Grey Knights

    Grey Knights aren't smurfs, they get shit done.

    I assume you mean killing their allies

    They're as bad as the Dark Eldar in ally survival ratio

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  • ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Yeah the Lictor at the end of that video isn't in the videos they decided to market. The first video of that cinematic they released had it in there but then the later videos at E3 and whatnot didn't have it. They edited it out for one reason or another

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  • TurkeyTurkey So, Usoop. TampaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I think the video works better without the Tyranid bit. It gives off a stronger sense of dread.

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Zzulu wrote: »
    Yeah the Lictor at the end of that video isn't in the videos they decided to market. The first video of that cinematic they released had it in there but then the later videos at E3 and whatnot didn't have it. They edited it out for one reason or another

    They edited it out of the official intro because the Tyranids are supposed to be a surprise during the campaign.

    Which really, was pretty pointless considering they'd already revealed the Tyranids via the full trailer earlier, and the gameplay trailers. AND they're a multiplayer army available right from the start.

    I guess it was supposed to be for the benefit of people who weren't really following the game and just picked it up off the shelf. But of course, anyone into 40K would've figured it out anyway, and anyone not into 40K wouldn't have seen the big deal or anything ominous about the Tyranids regardless (at least not in comparison with any of the other races).

    So... *shrug*

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  • ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    It works better without the Lictor if you understand that the stuff in the sky is a huge Tyranid tendril and invasion about to happen. I could see how someone would be confused if they didn't know what the stuff in the sky was though

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  • South hostSouth host I obey without question Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    After reading the Grey Knights codex, I'd say you'd have a better chance fighting daemons on your own than you would allying with the Grey Knights

    Grey Knights aren't smurfs, they get shit done.

    And sorry, Guards are cool, but in one of Gaunt's Ghosts books it shows just how ineffective normal troopers are against a Bloodthirster or great class. Which is to say, they get butchered at lightspeed without even being able to return fire.

    If it's the part I'm thinking of, the Guard countered with sanctioned psykers.

    And if that fails, they would have bombed everything within a mile flat with Basilisks, then sent in more troops and tanks, followed by more psykers.

    Remember: individual Guardsmen are useless. But for every one you kill, there are millions more. And those guys have tens of thousands of tanks, heavy artillery, and aircraft to back them up.

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