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Payne in the butt! Ha ha. Payne to the Max!

MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNARochester, MNRegistered User regular
edited April 2007 in Games and Technology
Everything ripped apart in a New York minute.

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This is dedicated to the game that redefined 'bullet time' and 'third person action' so many years ago. It all started on the PC and developed a story through a gritty noir protagonist that has nothing to lose.

Enter Max Payne. A previous NYPD up and comer with the American Dream. A beautiful wife, a new baby, and gorgeous house. All ripped apart by a group of drug crazed addicts. The new drug? Valkyr. The new street game that turns junkies into raving addicts. Max is thrust into the world of Valkyr - desperate to find out who is creating the drug that lead to the loss of his family.

Perhaps the greatest strength of Max Payne is the voice over work that turns the story along. All of the dialogue is voiced by James McCaffrey (you may know him as playing Jimme Keefe in 'Rescue Me') - who has this gritty sound that is reminiscent of a gravel mixer. The voice draws you in, similar to how Bogart's voice would in Casablanca or The Maltese Falcon. Furthermore the voice overs are accompanied by a series of comic book panels that detail out the story:
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The game moves from locale to locale as you blow away gangsters with a pretty wide array of weapons. Periodically using your 'bullet time' to slow things down so you can pull of great combinations and look fancy. To my knowledge this is the game that started all of the 'bullet time' fiasco you can see in so many others today.

The Mod to end all mods.
Another bonus in this game is something that a lot of people don't even know about. The Max Payne Kung Fu 3.0 mod. Developed by Kenneth Yeung, this mod introduces a whole new variety of attacks for Max. Including punches, three styles of front kicks, jump kicks, new bullet time dodge maneuvers, and even an extra 'stick style' of fighting with a staff. It's simply amazing and allows you to pull off things such as this:
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The mod was so impressive to the original Max Payne development team that you can see a series of "Kenneth Yeung" posters in Max Payne 2. This adds such a new experience onto the game that the original almost pales by comparison.

Max Payne: The Movie
Currently 20th Century Fox has purchased the rights to a Max Payne movie and the script is being written by the original writer of Max Payne 1 (Sam Lake) and the writer for 'The Shield' (Shawn Ryan). Hopefully between the two of them we'll get a pretty solid film.

Max Payne: The Independent Film
Titled 'Max Payne: Payne and Redemption' is something I just stumbled across while googling up information on this post. I have no idea what it's about, but you can take a gander at http://www.payneandredemption.com/. If nothing else it has a really good poster.

So, there's also a sequel for this game. However, as far as I'm concerned - it doesn't exist. So let's talk about the original.

Oh, and Max Payne 1 and 2 can both be found for less thatn $10.00 US in whatever form you prefer (PC, PS2, X-Box). There really isn't any reason NOT to own this game. I personally prefer the PC version because the Kung Fu 3.0 mod really IS just taht damn good.

Whoever asked for it - you can find the 1.05 Max Payne 1 patch at http://www.3drealms.com/max/downloads.html to play on Windows XP. No compatibility changes are necessary.

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    BasticleBasticle Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    My only complaint is that its so short.

    Also Max Payne 2 could possibly be considered the greatest sequal ever. Take whats awsome about the first game and just make it last twice as long.

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    bruinbruin Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Played both on Xbox and loved them. Brilliant action, incredible storytelling.

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    unnnnngggg

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    Panda4YouPanda4You Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    MegaMan001 wrote:
    Max Payne: The Movie
    Currently 20th Century Fox has purchased the rights to a Max Payne movie and the script is being written by the original writer of Max Payne 1 (Sam Lake) and the writer for 'The Shield' (Shawn Ryan). Hopefully between the two of them we'll get a pretty solid film.
    ZOMG
    I'm really impressed with Mr. Lake's sense of storywriting and the Shield is rad n' all. If no assholey director/producers screw this up it could be enjoyable as hell.

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    DukiDuki Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Both this game and the sequel are in my top 5 PC games ever.

    They are just so lovely.

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    Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    MegaMan001 wrote:

    So, there's also a sequel for this game. However, as far as I'm concerned - it doesn't exist. So let's talk about the original.

    what?

    The sequel was fantastic and is one of the very few examples where a sequel outperforms the original in every single way.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
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    StollsStolls Brave Corporate Logo Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    "And we keep drivin' into the night
    it's a late goodbye
    such a late goodbye..."

    God, but that song stuck with me.

    Both games are among the best action games ever created, and with some of the best writing in any game period. I don't know how they did it, but they managed to keep the action fresh from the first fight to the last, and what's more the sequel outdid the original in almost every way (MP1 had better boss fights, but that's about it).

    And the Kung Fu mod... ohhhhh, the Kung Fu mod <3

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    AHH!AHH! Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Drez

    no

    bad

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2007
    "Hey, Jim. Me and the boys have been talking, and..

    We're all real sorry. And we'll never do it again."

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
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    BasticleBasticle Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Drez I dont understand anything you're posting.

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    StollsStolls Brave Corporate Logo Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    "Hey, Jim. Me and the boys have been talking, and..

    We're all real sorry. And we'll never do it again."

    "The password. John who?"

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    LavaKnightLavaKnight Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    What the hell's wrong with the second game, MegaMan?

    That's right, nothing! Ha!

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    Gaming-ModuleGaming-Module Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I sort of dislike what they did to his face in the sequel. It looks like they were going for Clint Eastwood, stopped at copying the shape of his head and tried grafting pretty boy face and hair to it.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    The main thing I didn't like about the sequel is that Vlad is the bad guy. I like him.

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    blakfeldblakfeld Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    ... i loved the sequel. Late Goodbye is on my iPod.

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    Liquid GhostLiquid Ghost DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES, TOO?! Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Mai-Kero wrote:
    what?

    The sequel was fantastic and is one of the very few examples where a sequel outperforms the original in every single way.

    Agreed. Both games were god damned amazing and I yearn for another installment. I absolutely hunger for this type of story; one that introduces and chronicles characters who are fleshed out in such a rigorous fashion that it's almost as if the writers were playing God and seeking to create life with their bare hands. I feel for many of the characters and simply let my body go limp as the story kind of drags me along on its path. Snake Eater, Planescape: Torment, Chrono Trigger, and others have all had the same effect on me. I've come to expect that, to even require it, out of books and movies that I own, but there's a degree of interaction in video games that you typically can't find in something like a novel or a film. I mean, I can barely bring myself to finish the fight against The Boss, or to do anything except get the extra ending in Max Payne 2, or to act like a vicious, brutal asshole in Planescape: Torment. When developers can utilize that interaction and allow you to honestly feel the impact of your decisions, or at least the impact of the story as they've written it, I can honestly consider them to be a step well above their peers.

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    PaynePayne Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Ahh yes, while this was in the height of its popularity, I would be asked, "Your name's Payne? Like MAX PAYNE!" :roll:

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    AlphaTwoAlphaTwo Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I'd have to say I didn't like the sequal. It just felt the same. It wasn't any harder, or better. And the ending. Geez... That was just lame and anti-climatic.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I know it's an old game, but some of us should spoiler tag our spoilers.

    Also, I have both Poets of the Fall albums. They are pretty good.

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    BasticleBasticle Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I sort of dislike what they did to his face in the sequel. It looks like they were going for Clint Eastwood, stopped at copying the shape of his head and tried grafting pretty boy face and hair to it.

    how is this any better?

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    bruinbruin Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Mai-Kero wrote:
    what?

    The sequel was fantastic and is one of the very few examples where a sequel outperforms the original in every single way.

    Agreed. Both games were god damned amazing and I yearn for another installment. I absolutely hunger for this type of story; one that introduces and chronicles characters who are fleshed out in such a rigorous fashion that it's almost as if the writers were playing God and seeking to create life with their bare hands. I feel for many of the characters and simply let my body go limp as the story kind of drags me along on its path. Snake Eater, Planescape: Torment, Chrono Trigger, and others have all had the same effect on me. I've come to expect that, to even require it, out of books and movies that I own, but there's a degree of interaction in video games that you typically can't find in something like a novel or a film. I mean, I can barely bring myself to finish the fight against The Boss, or to do anything except get the extra ending in Max Payne 2, or to act like a vicious, brutal asshole in Planescape: Torment. When developers can utilize that interaction and allow you to honestly feel the impact of your decisions, or at least the impact of the story as they've written it, I can honestly consider them to be a step well above their peers.
    You should play Hotel Dusk.

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    GimGim a tall glass of water Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
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    JJJJ DailyStormer Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Basticle wrote:
    I sort of dislike what they did to his face in the sequel. It looks like they were going for Clint Eastwood, stopped at copying the shape of his head and tried grafting pretty boy face and hair to it.

    how is this any better?

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    It's not. It's worse by a large margin.

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Bahahhahaha Darkprimus.

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    Mister LongbaughMister Longbaugh Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I remember in the first game's manual, at the back it mentioned that Dimension had picked up rights to the film, and there was also a tv show in the works. ha

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    bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I played through the second one in 5 to 10 minute interval. My computer would randomly reboot when playing games, caused by what I would much later discover to be a bad fan which led to my GPU overheating. Still enjoyed the game enough to put up with the hassle, just spammed the hell out of the quicksave.

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    electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    "The Thing's That I Want. By Max Payne."

    This is by far my favorite graphic novel sequence from both games. It's just fucking intense and you're sitting there going "holy shit!"

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    LeumasWhiteLeumasWhite New ZealandRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Loved both of them, but the sequel felt less... gritty, I guess? I mean, the worst thing he did in 2 was [spoiler:1556f60b38]kill winterson[/spoiler:1556f60b38]but in 1 he left whats-his-face in the alley to bleed to death. Plus there was the whole murderous rampage thing. Dunno. Still awesome, but for different reasons.

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    HullabalooHullabaloo Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I must have lept around every corner in slow motion throughout both games. Just because.

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    The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I came into this thread hoping to see lots of picture of Payne from FFX-2's ass.


    I can't say I'm disappointed, despite the lack of said ass.

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    Torso BoyTorso Boy Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    The day this game isn't fun will probably never come.

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    Charlie_Foxtrot2Charlie_Foxtrot2 Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Can the original Max Payne work on an XP machine? My machine handles UT2k4 fairly well. Could it handle both Max Payne games?

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    randombattlerandombattle Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Hullabaloo wrote:
    I must have lept around every corner in slow motion throughout both games. Just because.

    Thats like the entire game!


    Man I love Max Payne so much. If theres ever a franchise that doesn't get enough credit its that one. Such awesome stories, epic game play, kick ass music. It's all so perfect.

    It just proves it in Max Payne 2 when you notice basically everything is exactly the same with little to no changes just because it was so damn perfect in the original its like "Why change it!?"

    I <3 Max Payne 1 and 2

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    ShensShens Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Can the original Max Payne work on an XP machine? My machine handles UT2k4 fairly well. Could it handle both Max Payne games?

    Absolutely. I doubt you will have any problems.

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    LaCabraLaCabra MelbourneRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I pretty much covered how much I love Max Payne in the last Max Payne thread, which was a great thread, because we went into theories like Max having killed his family and being absolutely fucking insane, and there's quite a bit of "evidence" to that effect. Fun times.

    Can the original Max Payne work on an XP machine? My machine handles UT2k4 fairly well. Could it handle both Max Payne games?
    Yes, but you'll have to patch Max Payne 1, unless you're really lucky, and run it in compatibility mode.



    Edit: I love the nightmare scenes a lot. [spoiler:f80563de03]when Max sees himself lying on the floor dead
    Max: A bullet to the head.
    Bravura: The killer's looking for an answer, but he's looking for it in the wrong place. He should be looking for it in his own head.[/spoiler:f80563de03]

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    Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Can the original Max Payne work on an XP machine? My machine handles UT2k4 fairly well. Could it handle both Max Payne games?

    Should be good. The Max Payne games are coded really, really tight.

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    Charlie_Foxtrot2Charlie_Foxtrot2 Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Bless you, Phoenix-D, LaCabra & Shens:


    You have persuaded me to get this game.

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    TM2 RampageTM2 Rampage Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I didn't really care for the new looks of the characters. They were all good-looking actors and stuff instead of regular joe schmoe developers.

    Also, I think the photoripped textures in the first one are still nice to look at.

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